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NVDACon Asia: Report of Day 1
Dear all, Saturday, 9th of July, 2016 witnessed the first day of the first ever happening of NVDACon Asia on its Teamtalk server as well as through RadioUdaan’s live stream. Listeners and attendees got a chance to tune in to the 1 User General Chat Opener Forum – We discussed about a variety of general subjects related to NVDA, its portability, flexibility, add-ons and even shared our stories of success and how NVDA has impacted our lives. Despite certain technicalities that had to be dealt with during the end of the session, this session served as an excellent kickstarter for the remainder of the conference. 2 Switching from JAWS to NVDA – We had extremely informative and enlightening talks from Ashish Singla followed by Ashik Hirani, who covered and very persuasively convinced many about why NVDA is a competent and viable alternative to commercial options, talking about functionality extensions in the form of add-on packages, NVDA’s accessibility support for many popular applications, the insignificant learning curve between a JAWS to NVDA transition, elucidating all myths and misconceptions people might have in mind along the way. Due to major interest and receipt of questions on this topic, this session had to be significantly extended. 3 Connecting and Contributing to Wider NVDA Communities – In this session, Bhavya Shah and Waqas Ramzan spoke about a variety of simple to complex, little to big, ways and means NVDA users and enthusiasts could contribute towards the progression and proliferation of NVDA, such as joining various NVDA communities, user forums, add-on portals, as well as translating NVDA. The importance of this community-driven screen reader was emphasized and listeners and participants were encouraged to play their part to help. On the whole, Day 1 of NVDACon Asia was hugely successful, with a satisfactory turnout at the Teamtalk server, and over a thousand listeners hearing its live stream. We had fruitful discussions on the first day, which will continue throughout the second day of NVDACon Asia too – 10th of July, 2016. What can you expect from Day 2 of NVDACon Asia is briefly highlighted as follows: Session 4 the BlindHelp Project by the BlindHelp Team – 12:30 p.m. UTC/GMT, 5:30 p.m. Pakistan time, 6:00 p.m. India time, 9:30 p.m. Malaysia time Session 5 Asian Language Reading Tools & Text to Speech Support by Mahesh Khosla – 1:30 p.m. UTC/GMT, 6:30 p.m. Pakistan time, 7:00 p.m. India time, 10:30 p.m. Malaysia time Session 6 Keynote Address by the NVDA India Team – 2:30 p.m. UTC/GMT, 7:30 p.m. Pakistan time, 8:00 p.m. India time, 11:30 p.m. Malaysia time Conference Schedule: www.blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia/schedule Please do listen to NVDACon Asia live via RadioUdaan (www.radioudaan.com) or by participating directly in our Teamtalk server (instructions at www.blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia/participate). Looking forward to an even bigger turnout and listenership today, and an equally useful and knowledgeable day of conferencing and presentations by our dignified speakers today as well! Best Regards, NVDACon Asia Planning Committee www.blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia -- Warm Regards Bhavya Shah Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com Skype id : bhavya.09
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Re: free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
well if its mp3 copy the files in as usual.
in win 7 its alt f t you need to find write these files to disk.
You can also delete temperary files from that menu to.
cdburner xp is donationware and contains no spyware and is what I used for audio it can handle audio, data, dvds, and video disks.
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On 10/07/2016 8:33 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi, everyone,
I've been trying to burn a CD for a friend with windows 10 but I'm finding
it very complicated. What is a good free CD-burning program that will work
well with NVDA?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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hi i dont use access and i dont have many informations about it.
but i heard that its not completely accessible with screen readers.
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On 7/9/16, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@gmail.com> wrote: hello team member I have suffering a strange problem
to using NVDA.
because I am doing the MS access 20007 with NVDA but it is not
supported there some feeture suppose when I am select the data type
of any colum to press alt+ down arrow to choose the data type.
but there is NVDA is not supported and also hang my PC then I have
receive a error message [the MS access is not responding].
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Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading
hi.
yes. i use firefox and i press control+j to bring the library.
in this case, the focus is on the current download.
if you want to pause the download, you can press application ke and
use up and down in the arrow keys.
if you want to stop the download, you should first pause it and then
cancel the download.
you can resume the broken download with application and then the arrow keys.
its retry botton which is added to the firefox 33 and later.
hope thats help.
thanks and God bless you.
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On 7/10/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote: Hi
If the download manager is used I think it is in internet explorer, mozilla
fire fox google play and maybe more when you start downloading the files you
can use the CTRL key + the letter J to bring up your downloads. You might
have to tab around or in some cases where the files are up up and down to
see what each file is up to. So i do not hear them all at times I will just
turn off the progress bars thingy in NVDA with the nvda key + the letter U.
The download manager can usually be found under the tools section in the
browsers.
hope this helps.
Gene nz
On 10/07/2016 5:04 AM, n8mnx@att.net<mailto:n8mnx@att.net> wrote:
I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar when I
down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even after I
uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the progress bar when
I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.
Brian Sackrider
On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hello,
I just joined this group.
I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.
I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.
Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given
folder? Maybe an addon?
I’ve not found anything yet.
Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Indicating Python indentation in Braille
When UEB is used, the print space indicator can be used which is dots 3-4-6.
Kind regards
Christo
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On 2016/07/09 8:30 PM, John J. Boyer wrote: It would be much more intuitive if each level of indentation was shown
as a non-blank cell. Such cells are quicker and easier to count.
John
On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 11:03:09AM -0700, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Each indentation is shown as blank cell.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Subject: [nvda] Indicating Python indentation in Braille
Is there a way to display a single-cell dot pattern for each level of
indentation in Python? It must be Braille, not speech, since I am
deaf-blind.
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
hi.
i have many questions.
do you mean that powerpoint is not completely accessible for blinds?
or at least its accessibility and kkey strokes with using jaws is
better than nvda?
i use libreoffice and openoffice and when i press tab to go to
different objects, when my reading finish and i press alt+f4 to close
the program, it asks me do you want to save the changes?
i mean that pressing tab changes the presentations.
or do you think that word is the most accessible part of office
programs for blind users?
i appreciate any help and guide.
thanks so much for providing these notes.
i copied and saved them in my system.
specially sukil and Cearbhall i waite for your guide about my questions.
thanks extremely and God bless you all.
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On 7/10/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote: Sukil,
I am using office 2010 and it looks as though something has changed from
2007 as the keys “a” and “s” do nothing in slide show here. I agree that
the
up and down arrows navigate the slide line by line and the left and right
arrows move from character to character. Indeed, control+left and
control+right arrows move from word to word within the slide in slide show
mode.
Later on, we could list the variations that work in different versions of
Office. For the moment, I am committed to getting an accurate working set
of
instructions that will handle PowerPoint with NVDA in as many versions as
possible.
Do the steps that I have listed in my first message work in your 2007
version?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I confused
this version of Office with Office 2003.
For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007. Passing
through left and right arrows works as well.
El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:
Sukil,
I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried
control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide
view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function.
Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation
keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for
using NVDA with PowerPoint.
All the best,
Cearbhall
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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between
pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous
and
next slide in the slideshow.
Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:
Hi,
I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?
I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.
Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA
1. File opens in slide view
2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane
For the first slide:
3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;
4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;
5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;
6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.
7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide
Press page down For the second slide:
8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder
9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder
10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line
11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.
Press page down for the third slide
12. Press tab for the Title placeholder
13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above
Press pagedown for slide 4;
Same as slide 3.
Press page down for slide 5
15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;
16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;
17. Press tab for title placeholder
18. Press tab for text placeholder.
19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.
control+home jumps to the first slide
control+end jumps to the last slide.
The Slide Show
Press F5 to start the slide show
NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.
1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;
2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.
3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.
4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.
5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.
6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.
7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.
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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: ' <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi again,
I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.
All advice welcome, thanks!
All the best,
Cearbhall
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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi,
I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
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Re: free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
hi.
i offer burnaware free.
you can find it in its producer website.
download its free version and it has not opencandy in its recent
version and works well with nvda.
www.burnaware.com
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On 7/10/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote: Hi,
Use the menu bar to do the tasks, and flat review and object navigation
to view some information onscreen.
Regards,
Sukil
El 10/07/2016 a las 1:02, Roger Stewart escribió:
I tried Imburn and it doesn't seem to be very accessible. I tab around
and nothing speaks for me at all but sighted friend says that there
are icons on there that you click on with the mouse to do various
tasks with it. Seems very simple to use for a sighted mouse user, but
for nvda users, doesn't seem to be very promising unless maybe an add
on could be made to make it usable.
Roger
On 7/9/2016 4:31 PM, Chris wrote:
Another one is imgburn
http://www.imgburn.com/
Also available as a ninite installer
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Damien
Pendleton
Sent: 09 July 2016 21:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with
NVDA
Hi,
Another really good one that I use regularly is CDBurner XP. The
title was
misleading at first, it led me to believe that it was only built for
Windows
XP - this is not the case. I have used it with Windows 7 with
absolutely no
problems whatsoever, and it is still being maintained.
This one is at http://cdburnerxp.se/en
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Damien.
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with
NVDA
Thank you. I'll check it out.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bobby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with
NVDA
Well I have quite a fiew. One of the programs I use a lot is any
burn. and
I also used express burn butt you have to pay for that one. If I
were you I
would stick with any burn because it is free. You can get this soft
ware at
www.anyburn.com <http://www.anyburn.com> . Hope this helps
On 7/9/2016 4:33 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I've been trying to burn a CD for a friend with windows 10 but I'm
finding
it very complicated. What is a good free CD-burning program that will
work
well with NVDA?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
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al-islam.org
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CD-burning problem solved
Hi, everyone, I want to thank you all for helping me with my CD-burning problem. I downloaded anyburn and it's pretty easy to use. Thanks again for all your help. Rosemarie
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Sukil, I am using office 2010 and it looks as though something has changed from 2007 as the keys “a” and “s” do nothing in slide show here. I agree that the up and down arrows navigate the slide line by line and the left and right arrows move from character to character. Indeed, control+left and control+right arrows move from word to word within the slide in slide show mode. Later on, we could list the variations that work in different versions of Office. For the moment, I am committed to getting an accurate working set of instructions that will handle PowerPoint with NVDA in as many versions as possible. Do the steps that I have listed in my first message work in your 2007 version? All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I confused this version of Office with Office 2003. For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007. Passing through left and right arrows works as well.
El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:
Sukil, I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I
confused this version of Office with Office 2003.
For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007.
Passing through left and right arrows works as well.
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El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:
Sukil,
I
appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I
have tried control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they
have no function in slide view or slide show modes.
Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function. Are these
possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of
navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying
to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint.
All the
best,
Cearbhall
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Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and
back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also
work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.
Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:
Hi,
I have
been working all day on this topic and have put together
the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA.
Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you
any improvements to suggest?
I have
used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my
Desktop Pc.
Notes on
the use of PowerPoint with NVDA
1. File
opens in slide view
2. Page
Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane
For the
first slide:
3. Press
tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title
of the slide;
4. Press
tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads
the subtitle;
5. Press
tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says
"Graphic" if no alt text;
6. Press
tab again to move to rectangle shape.
7. Press
tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of
the slide
Press page
down For the second slide:
8. Press
tab to move to the title placeholder
9. Press
tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text
in the placeholder
10. Press
numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder
line by line
11. Press
tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the
location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text
has not been filled in.
Press page
down for the third slide
12. Press
tab for the Title placeholder
13. Press
tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as
in the text placeholder at 9 above
Press
pagedown for slide 4;
Same as
slide 3.
Press page
down for slide 5
15. Press
tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the
footer;
16. Press
tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the
number of the slide;
17. Press
tab for title placeholder
18. Press
tab for text placeholder.
19. Press
tab to return to the footer placeholder.
control+home
jumps to the first slide
control+end
jumps to the last slide.
The Slide
Show
Press F5
to start the slide show
NVDA reads
the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.
1. Press
page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note
that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between
key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;
2. Press
numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide
line by line.
3. Press
return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes
nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.
4. Type
the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that
slide.
5. Press
control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide
and its accompanying notes.
6. Use F6
to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane,
thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move
through the options available in each of these panes. Use
F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.
7. Use the
escape key to exit the slide show.
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Hi again,
I am using
PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a
desktop PC.
All advice
welcome, thanks!
All the
best,
Cearbhall
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Hi,
I have taken on a new project in which I
have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations.
Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can
anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
The problem is that there is no definite answer for that
question, as I cannot tell you why they fail. It happens in some
tables, and I don't know if in other objects.
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El 10/07/2016 a las 1:16, Cearbhall
O'Meadhra escribió:
Sukil
Can
you list the objects that NVDA does not read? I would be
happy to include them in my investigation.
All the
best,
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Hi,
Me too. And some tables and I believe other objects as well
are not even read by NVDA. I should research that behaviour.
Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 22:56, Mike Sedmak
escribió:
Has anyone had luck navigating tables
in powerpoint? Table navigation does not work for me in
powerpoint.
I have to resort to using tab to step
through every cell.
Thanks,
Sent from my iPhone, please forgive
the typos.
Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move
forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A
and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in
the slideshow.
Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
escribió:
Hi,
I
have been working all day on this topic and have put
together the following notes about using PowerPoint
with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of
these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?
I
have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA
2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.
Notes
on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA
1.
File opens in slide view
2.
Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the
title pane
For
the first slide:
3.
Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA
reads the title of the slide;
4.
Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder.
NVDA reads the subtitle;
5.
Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic.
NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text;
6.
Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.
7.
Press tab again to return to the title placeholder
at the top of the slide
Press
page down For the second slide:
8.
Press tab to move to the title placeholder
9.
Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads
all the text in the placeholder
10.
Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the
placeholder line by line
11.
Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports
the location of the graphic in the computer when the
alt text has not been filled in.
Press
page down for the third slide
12.
Press tab for the Title placeholder
13.
Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all
the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above
Press
pagedown for slide 4;
Same
as slide 3.
Press
page down for slide 5
15.
Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all
text in the footer;
16.
Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads
out the number of the slide;
17.
Press tab for title placeholder
18.
Press tab for text placeholder.
19.
Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.
control+home
jumps to the first slide
control+end
jumps to the last slide.
The
Slide Show
Press
F5 to start the slide show
NVDA
reads the whole slide from top to bottom including
the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the
slide.
1.
Press page down and page up to move from slide to
slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a
few seconds between key presses to allow the slide
show to catch up;
2.
Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of
the slide line by line.
3.
Press return or space bar to move to the next slide.
Sometimes nothing happens and then do the
instruction at 4 below.
4.
Type the number of a slide followed by return to
jump to that slide.
5.
Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth
between the slide and its accompanying notes.
6.
Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide
view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the
arrow keys to move through the options available in
each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen
view to see the results.
7.
Use the escape key to exit the slide show.
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Hi
again,
I am
using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows
10 on a desktop PC.
All
advice welcome, thanks!
All
the best,
Cearbhall
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Hi,
I have taken on a new project in
which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint
presentations. Are there any guides for using
PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers
from their own experience?
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Re: Correction: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Mike, My mistake! Please ignore my last email. You are correct that I have mistakenly included F6 in the Slide Show set of steps. Well spotted! I have moved that instruction now to the set of steps relating to the Slide View. Could you help me with a PPT file containing at least one table? All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint F6 will move between the current slide, the status bar, and the thumbnail preview panes when in slide view. F6 will not do this in presentation mode.
Thanks, Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. Sukil, I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Mike, That is correct as you can see from the steps which I listed in my first email of this thread. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint F6 will move between the current slide, the status bar, and the thumbnail preview panes when in slide view. F6 will not do this in presentation mode.
Thanks, Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. Sukil, I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Gene, I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well. PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now. I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions. The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful! If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Hi Cearbhall The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013. The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones. I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went. Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint? Gene nz On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
F6 will move between the current slide, the status bar, and the thumbnail preview panes when in slide view. F6 will not do this in presentation mode. Thanks, Mike
Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos.
On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra < cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote: Sukil, I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Sukil Can you list the objects that NVDA does not read? I would be happy to include them in my investigation. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Hi, Me too. And some tables and I believe other objects as well are not even read by NVDA. I should research that behaviour. Regards, Sukil El 09/07/2016 a las 22:56, Mike Sedmak escribió: Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint? Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint. I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.
Thanks, Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Mike, Would you like to send me a sample PowerPoint file with a table in one of the slides? I would like to get on top of this as well. I would be happy to share any results that I find. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint? Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint. I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.
Thanks, Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
Hi,
Use the menu bar to do the tasks, and flat review and object navigation to view some information onscreen.
Regards,
Sukil
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El 10/07/2016 a las 1:02, Roger Stewart escribió: I tried Imburn and it doesn't seem to be very accessible. I tab around and nothing speaks for me at all but sighted friend says that there are icons on there that you click on with the mouse to do various tasks with it. Seems very simple to use for a sighted mouse user, but for nvda users, doesn't seem to be very promising unless maybe an add on could be made to make it usable.
Roger
On 7/9/2016 4:31 PM, Chris wrote:
Another one is imgburn
http://www.imgburn.com/
Also available as a ninite installer
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien
Pendleton
Sent: 09 July 2016 21:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Hi,
Another really good one that I use regularly is CDBurner XP. The title was
misleading at first, it led me to believe that it was only built for Windows
XP - this is not the case. I have used it with Windows 7 with absolutely no
problems whatsoever, and it is still being maintained.
This one is at http://cdburnerxp.se/en
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Thank you. I'll check it out.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Well I have quite a fiew. One of the programs I use a lot is any burn. and
I also used express burn butt you have to pay for that one. If I were you I
would stick with any burn because it is free. You can get this soft ware at
www.anyburn.com <http://www.anyburn.com> . Hope this helps
On 7/9/2016 4:33 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I've been trying to burn a CD for a friend with windows 10 but I'm finding
it very complicated. What is a good free CD-burning program that will work
well with NVDA?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Sukil, I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
I tried Imburn and it doesn't seem to be very accessible. I tab around and nothing speaks for me at all but sighted friend says that there are icons on there that you click on with the mouse to do various tasks with it. Seems very simple to use for a sighted mouse user, but for nvda users, doesn't seem to be very promising unless maybe an add on could be made to make it usable.
Roger
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On 7/9/2016 4:31 PM, Chris wrote: Another one is imgburn
http://www.imgburn.com/
Also available as a ninite installer
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien
Pendleton
Sent: 09 July 2016 21:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Hi,
Another really good one that I use regularly is CDBurner XP. The title was
misleading at first, it led me to believe that it was only built for Windows
XP - this is not the case. I have used it with Windows 7 with absolutely no
problems whatsoever, and it is still being maintained.
This one is at http://cdburnerxp.se/en
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Thank you. I'll check it out.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA
Well I have quite a fiew. One of the programs I use a lot is any burn. and
I also used express burn butt you have to pay for that one. If I were you I
would stick with any burn because it is free. You can get this soft ware at
www.anyburn.com <http://www.anyburn.com> . Hope this helps
On 7/9/2016 4:33 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I've been trying to burn a CD for a friend with windows 10 but I'm finding
it very complicated. What is a good free CD-burning program that will work
well with NVDA?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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