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Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hi, Did you used the classic or the studio version? Also which one is accessible with NVDA or Jaws? I'm downloading it right now.


Re: importing my favourites help?

 

Zoe,

         You will need some external media whether an SD card or a USB jump drive.  Whatever can be plugged in to both computers.

Here are the steps, presuming IE 11 on both sides:

On the "old computer side":

  1. Open IE 11, File Menu, Import and Export Option.
  2. In Import/Export Settings dialog select the "Export to a file" radio button, then hit the Next button at the bottom of the dialog.
  3. The "What would you like to export?" step comes next.  Check whichever of the checkboxes you wish.  Favorites are, of course, one of the checkboxes.  Hit the Next button at the bottom of the dialog.
  4. The next step asks you where you'd like to export from.  I never touch this as it uses the default location for favorites to export from.  Hit the Next button.
  5. The next step asks where you want to save the exported bookmarks.  The default will be your documents folder in a file called bookmark.html.  If you wish to browse for another location and/or specify a different file name hit the Browse button and do so.  I generally go with the default and hit the Export button on the bottom of this dialog.
  6. The Favorites will Export (unless something goes wrong) and you'll be presented with another dialog with the Finish button. Hit it.
  7. Copy or cut the bookmark.html file from your documents folder and save it on your external media.

On the "new computer" side, insert the external media you've copied the bookmarks.html file on to in the new computer.

  1. Open IE11, File Menu, Import and Export Option.
  2. In Import/Export Settings dialog select the "Import from a file" radio button, then hit the Next button at the bottom of the dialog.
  3. The next step asks what you'd like to import.  Presuming you're only doing Favorites check the Favorites checkbox.  Hit the Next button.
  4. The next dialog asks where you'd like to import the Favorites from.  Here you will hit the browse button and then navigate to the external media where your bookmark.html is located, select it, then hit the Open button.  This will place the full path to that file in the dialog text box so you can now hit the Next button.
  5. The next step asks you where you'd like to import to.  I never touch this as it uses the default location for favorites.  Hit the Import button.
  6. The final dialog should tell you that you've successfully imported and there is a Finish button at the bottom of the dialog.  Hit this.
  7. You're done, and should have your favorites in IE on your new machine.

Brian


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Gene
 

Firefox doesn't have a run option.  Download the file, find it and press enter as you would run any file.  If you have NVDA installed, Windows should know what to do and the installer should start.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] where is user config for add-ins?

Well Brian, that is just my problem.

I would rather use the more direct method but my system isn't asking if I want to save or run download. I have tried to find where to change this so it will give the option to run but I guess my brain is not working right now.

In trying to use the other method it says to save the package to the user config folder under NVDA.  I can't find that folder.  I see a system config folder but no user config.

I am running NVDA 2016.1 under windows 10 on a very fast laptop.  Iam running the newest firefox as my browser.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/10/2016 4:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian



Re: Antivirus

 

can I get the link to that download of the antivirus program?

On 3/7/2016 5:33 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
I am using sophus and after a bit of a shaky start I now have it on 3 of my many computers and it is Ok seems to be fully accessible. I admit I have not looked around to see what the ratings are like but I might now that I have thought about it.

On 07/03/2016 12:11, Gene wrote:
There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow things down. Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people should read about the subject. When Kim Komando recommends that people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well, that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration.

With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many programs.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible
the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use something else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,
and what it is. I believe that those considering using the program should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version) accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert
dialogs and settings windows.








Re: importing my favourites help?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Zoe,

I'll ask my nephew Adrian for you. I've never imported all my stuff from an
old computer to a new one but I'll ask him for you.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:21 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] importing my favourites help?

Hi guys before I retire my windows 7 laptop how can I export my internet
explorer favourites and transfer them to my windows 10 laptop? Obviously I
need a thumb drive and I have one but what do I do, can anyone give me steps
on how to.
Regards
Zoe


importing my favourites help?

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi guys before I retire my windows 7 laptop how can I export my internet explorer favourites and transfer them to my windows 10 laptop?  Obviously I need a thumb drive and I have one but what do I do, can anyone give me steps on how to.

Regards

Zoe


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

 

Postscript:  The exact same technique worked just fine for my portable copy of NVDA, too.  I have a different voice and verified that the add-on is indeed resident in the user config folder where NVDA places it as part of the install process that is on my removable media.  It is not necessary for the NVDA user to deal with the user config folder at all in relation to installing an add-on.

Brian


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

 

Dan,

           I believe we're "talking past each other" and you're making this harder on yourself than it need be.  I will step by step you through downloading and installing the OCR add-on.  The following presumes that NVDA is already running and will stay so throughout the process.

  1. Navigate to the NVDA community add-ons page, find the OCR add-on link, and click it to get to that add-on webpage.
  2. On the OCR add-on web page, there is a download link for the latest version of the add-on, at this point in time that's version 0.20120529.01.  Click on that link.
  3. When the Save As dialog comes up, navigate to wherever you wish to save the add-on file.  I saved mine to desktop.  (The OCR add-on is about 70 MB in size and takes a while to complete downloading).
  4. Open the folder where you saved the add-on file by whatever technique you prefer and select the add-on file you downloaded.
  5. Hit Enter.  A dialog from NVDA comes up asking if you're really sure you want to install the add-on.  Hit the Yes button.
  6. Wait for the installing add-on progress dialog to complete.  NVDA will then pop up a dialog stating that the add-on has been installed and must be restarted to take effect and asking if you'd like to restart now.  Hit the Yes button.  You will then hear the NVDA shutting down chimes followed immediately by the NVDA starting up chimes.
  7. NVDA now has the add-on installed and ready for use.

If you wish to verify that OCR is installed bring up the NVDA context menu, choose Tools, then choose Manage Add-Ons.  You will be presented with a dialog listing all the add-ons you have installed and OCR should be in that list.

Brian


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Dan Beaver
 

Well Brian, that is just my problem.

I would rather use the more direct method but my system isn't asking if I want to save or run download. I have tried to find where to change this so it will give the option to run but I guess my brain is not working right now.

In trying to use the other method it says to save the package to the user config folder under NVDA.  I can't find that folder.  I see a system config folder but no user config.

I am running NVDA 2016.1 under windows 10 on a very fast laptop.  Iam running the newest firefox as my browser.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/10/2016 4:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian



Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Dan Beaver
 

Nope, I am running an installed NVDA.  I don't use portable versions.

Thanks though,

Dan Beaver

On 3/10/2016 5:08 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
This seems to only work for an installed version of nvda. If you are just running a portable copy on a machine which doesn't have nvda installed, then you'll need to use the longer way to install.

Roger








On 3/10/2016 3:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,


         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian




Re: accessible version of Seamonkey?

Dan B Dyer Jr\Danny <ddyer1@...>
 

Hank, did u get the box?&are u ok with its' contents? Dd

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2016, at 4:55 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

will the free version work for uninstalling 64 bit programs? if not what is a good program that is simular to revo uninstaller
that will work on 64 bit programs?
thanks
Hank

On 3/5/2016 6:10 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue. I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&;os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>



Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Roger Stewart
 

This seems to only work for an installed version of nvda. If you are just running a portable copy on a machine which doesn't have nvda installed, then you'll need to use the longer way to install.

Roger








On 3/10/2016 3:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian



Re: accessible version of Seamonkey?

 

will the free version work for uninstalling 64 bit programs? if not what is a good program that is simular to revo uninstaller
that will work on 64 bit programs?
thanks
Hank

On 3/5/2016 6:10 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue. I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&;os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used
to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall
it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a
URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>







Re: where is user config for add-ins?

 

Dan,

         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian


where is user config for add-ins?

Dan Beaver
 

HI,

I am trying to install the ocr add-in so I can see if it will handle the pdf I am having trouble with. However, I can find system config but no user config as the instructions say to download it to.

Where is this folder?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver


Re: thunderbird and nvda

Angela Delicata
 

same here, it works great.
best.
Angela from Italy

Il 10/03/2016 19:26, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
qTo the poster with issues with thunderbird.
I have 38.6.0 and have had no issues its been out since februrary.
It autoinstalled and I have never had any issues.


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Dan,

I had to use my up-arrow key to find Ivan 3 in the list of variants.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:14 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

When I go through the list of voices I only find Iven but no Iven 3.
How do I find Iven 3?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/9/2016 11:06 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
in the espeak, did you try iven3?
its very great, lovely, natural, fast and responsive and made me
completely satisfied.


On 3/10/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The eloquence add on, unless it has been corrected, has lots of
annoying anomalies that shouldn't be in Eloquence. Don't buy it
unless you try the demo first. I haven't seen anything on the list
indicating that the problems have been correct and I've seen recent
messages indicating that the problems have not been.

Let's hope that they will be in future but they may well not be yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


Hi I know that eloquence addon from code factory works well with nvda
and is responsive. There is also vocalizer adddon for nvda.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

I have a new laptop which has windows 10 onit. It is so new that
some of the old synths I have used in the past on my old laptop won't
even install.

Now I guess I am in the market for a new synth with some new voices.

Which of those offered out there are good in response time and which
handle pronunciation of the most words correctly?

Please do not suggest ESpeak because I have tried it every release
of NVDA and I just can't deal with the voices it has.

I have been using MS David since getting this machine and it is
painful with the sluggish response times.

Thanks for any info. I hope to learn from others rather than having
to learn by painful experience.

Dan Beaver







thunderbird and nvda

 

qTo the poster with issues with thunderbird.
I have 38.6.0 and have had no issues its been out since februrary.
It autoinstalled and I have never had any issues.


Re: Firefox is driving me crazy!

Gene
 

it's unfortunate that many people are so quick to take offense.  they don't even take into account that someone may misunderstand a message and that communication by e-mail at times is subject to misunderstandings.
 
I misunderstood part of what you said in your message.  Perhaps hostility should not be resorted to so quickly. 
 
You may want to try to solve the problem.  And/or you may want to seriously consider the following comments.  What I am describing may save work and problems in future.
 
I haven't worked with profiles.  I don't use installed versions of Firefox because it is so easy to keep a backup copy of the portable version in case some odd problem occurs.  I find using portable versions of Firefox to be superior.  For one thing, they are very easy to transfer to other machines.  For another, keeping a backup copy on the same machine allows you to very easily and quickly replace a version that has become corrupted with a back up version. 
 
Also, you can back up things like book marks and very quickly transfer them to the backup copy if it doesn't have the current file. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!

Gene,
Of course I'm discussing how FF behaves on my machine!!!
Can you imagine me discussing how it behaves on yours???? lol rofl...

I'm submitting a problem I'm experiencing, and asking whether anyone
else has had similar situations and, in any case, an possible
suggestions as to how to overcome this.

In any case, no problem.
I'll take care of it and won't bother you anymore.
Thanks.
Ollie




Il 10/03/2016 17:47, Gene ha scritto:
> You are discussing how Firefox behaves on your machine.  If Firefox
> behaved this way in general, you would see an avalanche of complaints
> and questions about it.  I have no idea what the problem is.  Is it a
> firefox problem or a screen-reader problem or a Windows problem on
> your specific system?  No systematic testing has been done to make a
> determination.  Since lots of editions of Firefox portable are
> available and since you can have as many on a machine as desired, I
> would suggest trying the latest and see how it works.  then go back to
> one that you know worked on your machine and try that.  You may remove
> or keep as many different versions on your machine as you like.
> Something appears to be interfering with the calibration of
> Browse mode to the actual location of links on the page.  I doubt it's
> malware but that, too, cannot be ruled out.
> I have no objection to using Chrome but Chrome isn't perfect either.
> I much prefer the Firefox interface.  I am not happy that, for
> example, history in Chrome is a web page interface. There are lots of
> things that are web page interfaces in Chrome that are not in
> Firefox.  I can work with them but I find it easier and more intuitave
> to work with things such as lists in Firefox.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:30 AM
> *To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!
>
> Yes, and no....
> Only Firefox behaves that way. Chrome doesn't, for instance, but I'm not
> very much at ease with it yet.
> I'll have to switch over, if FF keeps on playing up this way, though.
>
> Ciao,
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 09/03/2016 23:05, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
> > Have you tried the same web page in a different browser and got the same
> > results?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mallard [mailto:mallard@...]
> > Sent: 09 March 2016 18:34
> > To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!
> >
> > Yes Patrick,
> > I do use K and Shift+K too, but it happens anyway...
> >
> > I've even tried bringing the mouse to focus, and double-clicking
> with the
> > left mouse button on the numpad... The best that happens is that I
> have to
> > click or press enter twice on a link to activate it, the worst is that
> > something completely diffrent opens.
> >
> > It started midway through the life of FF44, and it's still here in 45...
> > Ciao,
> > Ollie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Il 09/03/2016 17:24, Patrick Le Baudour ha scritto:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> One thing to be careful of is to make sure nvda only has a link in
> >> focus - I usually use k and shift-k to do that. When there is, for
> >> example, a bullet then a link, then it may open something altogether.
> >> I've been had by that several times those last weeks.
> >>
> >> -- Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 09/03/2016 17:01, Mallard a écrit :
> >>> Hello list,
> >>> For a week or so now, Firefox is driving me crazy.
> >>>
> >>> When I click on a link on a webpage, for some reason I end up
> >>> clicking on something different from the one I had under my fingers
> >>> on my braille display or that is read by the synth.
> >>>
> >>> Today I even upgraded to Firefox 45.0 to see whether the problem
> >>> could be solved, but no... Still the same.
> >>>
> >>> I'm using the latest Next snapshot of NVDA, but the same thing
> >>> happens with an older version of NVDA (2015.2), so I think it might
> >>> be something in Firefox.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone experienced someghing similar?
> >>>
> >>> Ciao,
> >>> Ollie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:

    Hi,
What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is visible, I'd assume you use a screen recording program.