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Re: Need help about the sleep mode feature

Luke Davis
 

The advice I gave earlier in this thread was incorrect. There is currently no way to save the sleepmode state.

Although this has been a feature request since 2013.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3721

Luke

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, Luke Davis wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:

a self-voicing typing program from the company I work. When I press NVDA+Shift+S
in SMTT to put NVDA in the sleep mode, it works, but when I close and reopen SMTT, NVDA become active like I didn't put it into sleep mode before.
That is the expected behavior. Have you tried creating a configuration profile to handle this?

Create a profile that triggers when SMTT opens.
Then, open SMTT, and put NVDA to Sleep.
Last, press NVDA+ctrl+c, which should save the configuration for you.

Luke


Re: links

 

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:20 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Sorry. The first part of that [desktop/laptop commands for state current object] is accurate. The second is not, at least for 2019.1.1.

NVDA+numpad5 does not change navigation modes.
I have no problem admitting I make errors, and have made one here.   I appreciate the corrections from both Gene and yourself.  It's important that when errors are made that corrections are offered.
 
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Re: braille teathered to focus

Sarah k Alawami
 

No the jgt add on is not ther as it is not an official add on. Te last time it was updatd I think was about 2 years ago so 'I'm surprised it works.

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On 10 Jun 2019, at 21:15, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Ok, that narrows down the culprit to almost certainly being an add-on.  Reading the other threads, I think you said you were using the add-on updater and had everything up to date.  I'm not sure if that JGT one is in there, so double check that one and maybe try disabling it.  Have you updated the weather add-on lately?  Basically, I'd next try disabling all your add-ons, then re-enable them one at a time and see when the problems come back.

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:55 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

No the issues don't happen with add ons disabled. I am running the latest of everything by the way.

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On 10 Jun 2019, at 20:49, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Sarah,

The last error in there is from an add-on called "JGT"?  There is also an error for Remote and one for Weather Plus.

It would be worth first updating all those to the latest versions (or getting rid of them if you don't use them).  If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled - press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter - and see whether the issue persists without add-ons.

Quentin.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:28 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I just had the issue yesterday. I was trying to check the title of a window so hit nvda t and I heard the message in theesubject line. Here is the log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieqhu4nqm636tin/nvda-old.log?dl=0

Restarting helped but just thought I'd send the log here.

Thanks.

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On 6 Jun 2019, at 14:40, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi list from time to time on NVDA for reasons I’m not clear on when I do an insert T to read a title window I will instead of that window hear NVDA say “braille teathered to focus.  I was launching a browser. And to correct this I had to shutdown then restart NVDA explorer for some reason crashes my screen reader.  While I don’t use it accept for very basic stuff and while chrome is my default it’s still a bit strange since I don’t have a braille display here anyone know wht is happening and why NVDA is giving me information on something that doesn’t apply to me. 

 

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Re: links

Luke Davis
 

Gene, I agree, generally, with this and a few of your other long standing best-practices-should-be-default arguments. Have you ever filed issues for any of this, so they would be in a place where the developers might be in a position to see and comment on them?

Luke

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, Gene wrote:

You should always be in object navigation mode when you aren't specifically using another mode.  If you aren't, you may have problems that seem unrelated
but they are.  I have long maintained that NVDA should automatically switch to object navigation when the user leaves the window where he is using another
mode to avoid such problems.  But no matter that this list has seen problems solved by telling people to use Object Navigation Mode, and that that is the
intended mode to be used in general, what I've suggested has made no difference.  People don't realize they shouldn't stay in screen navigation mode and
have problems.  Who knows how many people have problems and aren't on a list like this where they can find out why.


Re: links

Luke Davis
 

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

Hitting NVDA+NumPad 5 (desktop) or NVDA+shift+O (laptop) should tell you what the current object is, and shift into object navigation mode if you're not in
it.
Sorry. The first part of that is accurate. The second is not, at least for 2019.1.1.

NVDA+numpad5 does not change navigation modes.

Luke


Re: braille teathered to focus

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok, that narrows down the culprit to almost certainly being an add-on.  Reading the other threads, I think you said you were using the add-on updater and had everything up to date.  I'm not sure if that JGT one is in there, so double check that one and maybe try disabling it.  Have you updated the weather add-on lately?  Basically, I'd next try disabling all your add-ons, then re-enable them one at a time and see when the problems come back.


On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:55 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

No the issues don't happen with add ons disabled. I am running the latest of everything by the way.

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On 10 Jun 2019, at 20:49, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Sarah,

The last error in there is from an add-on called "JGT"?  There is also an error for Remote and one for Weather Plus.

It would be worth first updating all those to the latest versions (or getting rid of them if you don't use them).  If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled - press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter - and see whether the issue persists without add-ons.

Quentin.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:28 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I just had the issue yesterday. I was trying to check the title of a window so hit nvda t and I heard the message in theesubject line. Here is the log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieqhu4nqm636tin/nvda-old.log?dl=0

Restarting helped but just thought I'd send the log here.

Thanks.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2019, at 14:40, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi list from time to time on NVDA for reasons I’m not clear on when I do an insert T to read a title window I will instead of that window hear NVDA say “braille teathered to focus.  I was launching a browser. And to correct this I had to shutdown then restart NVDA explorer for some reason crashes my screen reader.  While I don’t use it accept for very basic stuff and while chrome is my default it’s still a bit strange since I don’t have a braille display here anyone know wht is happening and why NVDA is giving me information on something that doesn’t apply to me. 

 

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Re: question

Quentin Christensen
 

Not sure if this is what you want, but if you have Windows sticky keys enabled, the NVDA key will automatically be "sticky" (so you could then press the NVDA key, let it go and press F12 to hear the time).

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 6:15 AM anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:
Hi list
Could anyone tell me the name of that add-on which can be used as the
stickykeys?
Thanks in advance
Anthony






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Re: braille teathered to focus

Sarah k Alawami
 

No the issues don't happen with add ons disabled. I am running the latest of everything by the way.

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On 10 Jun 2019, at 20:49, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Sarah,

The last error in there is from an add-on called "JGT"?  There is also an error for Remote and one for Weather Plus.

It would be worth first updating all those to the latest versions (or getting rid of them if you don't use them).  If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled - press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter - and see whether the issue persists without add-ons.

Quentin.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:28 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I just had the issue yesterday. I was trying to check the title of a window so hit nvda t and I heard the message in theesubject line. Here is the log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieqhu4nqm636tin/nvda-old.log?dl=0

Restarting helped but just thought I'd send the log here.

Thanks.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2019, at 14:40, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi list from time to time on NVDA for reasons I’m not clear on when I do an insert T to read a title window I will instead of that window hear NVDA say “braille teathered to focus.  I was launching a browser. And to correct this I had to shutdown then restart NVDA explorer for some reason crashes my screen reader.  While I don’t use it accept for very basic stuff and while chrome is my default it’s still a bit strange since I don’t have a braille display here anyone know wht is happening and why NVDA is giving me information on something that doesn’t apply to me. 

 

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Re: braille teathered to focus

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sarah,

The last error in there is from an add-on called "JGT"?  There is also an error for Remote and one for Weather Plus.

It would be worth first updating all those to the latest versions (or getting rid of them if you don't use them).  If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled - press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter - and see whether the issue persists without add-ons.

Quentin.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:28 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I just had the issue yesterday. I was trying to check the title of a window so hit nvda t and I heard the message in theesubject line. Here is the log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieqhu4nqm636tin/nvda-old.log?dl=0

Restarting helped but just thought I'd send the log here.

Thanks.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2019, at 14:40, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi list from time to time on NVDA for reasons I’m not clear on when I do an insert T to read a title window I will instead of that window hear NVDA say “braille teathered to focus.  I was launching a browser. And to correct this I had to shutdown then restart NVDA explorer for some reason crashes my screen reader.  While I don’t use it accept for very basic stuff and while chrome is my default it’s still a bit strange since I don’t have a braille display here anyone know wht is happening and why NVDA is giving me information on something that doesn’t apply to me. 

 

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Re: links

Gene
 

To make sure you are in object navigation mode, for the desktop, issue the command NVDA key numpad 1.  Hold the NVDA key and press numpad 1.  You will either hear that you are in objectnavigation mode or you will hear something else.  Press it repeatedly until you hear either something like object navigation or something like no previous mode.  Object navigation is the first mode.
To move from object navigation to whatever modes are available, use NVDA key numpad 7. 
 
Unless this has changed in recent versions of NVDA that I haven't used, numpad 5 doesn't read the current object unless you are in object navigation mode or unless you are in screen review mode and you are on the current object while in screen review mode. It reads your current position in screen review mode. 
 
Also, it would make no sense for that command to switch you to object navigation mode.  If you are in screen review mode, you want to review the screen and not be moved into a different mode when issuing a read command such as read current item. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] links

how do you switch to object nav mode?

On 6/10/2019 7:27 PM, Blaster wrote:
> Don, Both of Gene's methods described earlier are alternate methods of
> clicking a link, other than just using the enter key or the spacebar
> key.  Also, switching to object nav mode and using the enter key or
> spacebar  may be worth a try.
>
> HTH,
> Blaster
>
>
> On 6/10/19, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
>> My question is whether there other ways to activate a link other than
>> space bar or entr key.
>>
>> On 6/10/2019 6:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
>>> I understand why you can't supply those addresses, then, but if you
>>> encounter the issue elsewhere be certain to make note of the web
>>> addresses and pass them along.  It's often well-nigh impossible to
>>> give accurate advice if an issue can not be replicated and worked with
>>> to find out what's happening.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> */Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy./*
>>>
>>>          ~ H.L. Mencken
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: links

 

Hitting NVDA+NumPad 5 (desktop) or NVDA+shift+O (laptop) should tell you what the current object is, and shift into object navigation mode if you're not in it.

Open your keyboard shortcuts document from NVDA help and look through the Object Navigation section.

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Re: links

Don H
 

how do you switch to object nav mode?

On 6/10/2019 7:27 PM, Blaster wrote:
Don, Both of Gene's methods described earlier are alternate methods of
clicking a link, other than just using the enter key or the spacebar
key. Also, switching to object nav mode and using the enter key or
spacebar may be worth a try.

HTH,
Blaster


On 6/10/19, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
My question is whether there other ways to activate a link other than
space bar or entr key.

On 6/10/2019 6:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I understand why you can't supply those addresses, then, but if you
encounter the issue elsewhere be certain to make note of the web
addresses and pass them along. It's often well-nigh impossible to
give accurate advice if an issue can not be replicated and worked with
to find out what's happening.

--

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*/Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy./*

~ H.L. Mencken




Re: links

Gene
 

You should always be in object navigation mode when you aren't specifically using another mode.  If you aren't, you may have problems that seem unrelated but they are.  I have long maintained that NVDA should automatically switch to object navigation when the user leaves the window where he is using another mode to avoid such problems.  But no matter that this list has seen problems solved by telling people to use Object Navigation Mode, and that that is the intended mode to be used in general, what I've suggested has made no difference.  People don't realize they shouldn't stay in screen navigation mode and have problems.  Who knows how many people have problems and aren't on a list like this where they can find out why.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Blaster
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] links

Don, Both of Gene's methods described earlier are alternate methods of
clicking a link, other than just using the enter key or the spacebar
key.  Also, switching to object nav mode and using the enter key or
spacebar  may be worth a try.

HTH,
Blaster


On 6/10/19, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
> My question is whether there other ways to activate a link other than
> space bar or entr key.
>
> On 6/10/2019 6:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
>> I understand why you can't supply those addresses, then, but if you
>> encounter the issue elsewhere be certain to make note of the web
>> addresses and pass them along.  It's often well-nigh impossible to
>> give accurate advice if an issue can not be replicated and worked with
>> to find out what's happening.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>
>> */Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy./*
>>
>>         ~ H.L. Mencken
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: links

Blaster
 

Don, Both of Gene's methods described earlier are alternate methods of
clicking a link, other than just using the enter key or the spacebar
key. Also, switching to object nav mode and using the enter key or
spacebar may be worth a try.

HTH,
Blaster

On 6/10/19, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
My question is whether there other ways to activate a link other than
space bar or entr key.

On 6/10/2019 6:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I understand why you can't supply those addresses, then, but if you
encounter the issue elsewhere be certain to make note of the web
addresses and pass them along. It's often well-nigh impossible to
give accurate advice if an issue can not be replicated and worked with
to find out what's happening.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy./*

~ H.L. Mencken




Re: links

Don H
 

In this case the method of hitting NVDA key space does it.

Thanks

On 6/10/2019 7:09 PM, Gene wrote:
When you are on such a link, try the following two things.  I think it may be more likely that the one I'll describe will work first than the one I will describe second.
 
Some links are specified to only work with the mouse.  For those, if you do the following, you may be able to follow them:
When you are on the link, route the virtual mouse to the link with the command NVDA key numpad slash.  Numpad Slash is the left click key in NVDA and you are using the NVDA key with it to route the mouse.  Hold the NVDA key and while doing so, press numpad slash.  See if the link is followed.  I gave the left click command for the desktop layout.  I don't use the laptop layout. 
 
The second thing to try is to be on the link, then turn on forms mode with NVDA key space.  Try pressing enter on the link.  After doing so, turn browse mode back on with NVDA key space again.  When you go into forms mode, before pressing enter, see if you are on the correct link by shift tabbing, then tabbing to see if you are in the right place.  At times, browse mode doesn't line up properly with forms mode.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Don H
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] links

Running NVDA 2019.2 beta 1 on a Win 10 1903 system.

On certain web pages there are links that I can not activate.  I hit
enter on them, I hit space bar on them and nothing happens.  I get
sighted help and they can both activate them with a physical mouse or by
using the touch screen.

Are there other ways to activate a link?





Re: links

Don H
 

My question is whether there other ways to activate a link other than space bar or entr key.

On 6/10/2019 6:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I understand why you can't supply those addresses, then, but if you encounter the issue elsewhere be certain to make note of the web addresses and pass them along.  It's often well-nigh impossible to give accurate advice if an issue can not be replicated and worked with to find out what's happening.

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Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Re: links

Gene
 

When you are on such a link, try the following two things.  I think it may be more likely that the one I'll describe will work first than the one I will describe second.
 
Some links are specified to only work with the mouse.  For those, if you do the following, you may be able to follow them:
When you are on the link, route the virtual mouse to the link with the command NVDA key numpad slash.  Numpad Slash is the left click key in NVDA and you are using the NVDA key with it to route the mouse.  Hold the NVDA key and while doing so, press numpad slash.  See if the link is followed.  I gave the left click command for the desktop layout.  I don't use the laptop layout. 
 
The second thing to try is to be on the link, then turn on forms mode with NVDA key space.  Try pressing enter on the link.  After doing so, turn browse mode back on with NVDA key space again.  When you go into forms mode, before pressing enter, see if you are on the correct link by shift tabbing, then tabbing to see if you are in the right place.  At times, browse mode doesn't line up properly with forms mode.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Don H
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] links

Running NVDA 2019.2 beta 1 on a Win 10 1903 system.

On certain web pages there are links that I can not activate.  I hit
enter on them, I hit space bar on them and nothing happens.  I get
sighted help and they can both activate them with a physical mouse or by
using the touch screen.

Are there other ways to activate a link?





Re: links

 

I understand why you can't supply those addresses, then, but if you encounter the issue elsewhere be certain to make note of the web addresses and pass them along.  It's often well-nigh impossible to give accurate advice if an issue can not be replicated and worked with to find out what's happening.

--

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Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Re: links

Don H
 

Sorry but this is on a broker site where I have to sign in.

On 6/10/2019 6:14 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Specific pages and the links involved would be helpful for those of us who are trying to test out possible alternatives (or what's going on/not going on).

If these are not on pages where you have to be logged in to encounter them, please share several page addresses.

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Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Re: links

 

Specific pages and the links involved would be helpful for those of us who are trying to test out possible alternatives (or what's going on/not going on).

If these are not on pages where you have to be logged in to encounter them, please share several page addresses.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken