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Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Gene
 

Your message implies that you have tried other browsers.  What happens when you use NVDA with most browsers.  What you describe isn't expected behavior and may require technical analysis to try to determine what is causing the problem.  Also, the frequency of crashes you are having with JAWS indicates that there may be a problem with your system that needs to be resolved.
 
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah


NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Rayn Darren
 

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah


Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Rayn Darren
 

You can also use Notepad++ but do not get the latest version as it isn’t compatible with NVDA. The version, at least the  one I use on a regular basis for python and json btw, is version 7.6.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of farhan israk
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

Try microsoft visual studio code with python add-on by Microsoft.

 

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:

I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
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Re: strange thing in Nvda

Gene
 

This is a good opportunity to remind people who don't do so, that when presenting a problem, what is being used and what is done that causes the problem should be reported. 
 
I doubt you can do anything about this.  At times, information is sent to NvdA that it reads automatically and this speech isn't related to progress updates.  Even if they are off, the information is spoken.  In this case, as I recall, if you leave the window, you won't hear it.  So just don't stay in the window when you don't want to hear the status of the download. 
 
This appears to be a problem introduced into quantum Firefox.  I don't recall it existing before quantum. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange thing in Nvda

Gene,

I don't use Chrome, I use Mozila Firefox.

During downloading I press Ctrl+J, then I can hear the beef and also the voice saying the numbers of procents.

Jarek

Dne 19.06.2019 v 10:50 Gene napsal(a):
If you are using Chrome, that appears to be an announcement chrome generates, unlrelated to NVDA's read progress bar functions. 
 
I don't know if it can be stopped.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] strange thing in Nvda

Hello everyone,
I found that when downloading large files, Nvda reports to me how much
percent has been downloaded, although I have set it to only beep.
Don't know, please, where can the error be?

--
Jarek



-- 
Jarek


Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

farhan israk
 

Try microsoft visual studio code with python add-on by Microsoft.


On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:
I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
--

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Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

hi friends, sorry for of topic mater. I want to build a simple dictionary using python script with help of JSON file. which should be compatible NVDA screen reader. In this job which python program or compiler accessible for me? please suggest me regarding this. thank you in advance.

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Shree


Re: Question about NVDA Beta Version

Quentin Christensen
 

Oh no problem at all.  Maybe we need to be clearer in our communication.  I'd much rather you ask than be confused and not say anything :)


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 9:56 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Quentin,
Thanks. Now I definitely got it. Sorry, sometimes I'm a bit slow. LOL

Well, I'll keep an eye on the betas and download one of them some time in the future.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Elements not being reported with NVDA

 

Luke,
Yes, there is a way to read these, though it is inconvenient.
Actually, not inconvenient at all. Using the laptop keyboard it's easy peasy :)
Far from perfect, which would be just land on a link and hear what it's about, but nothing impossible at all.

It's really weird and I never would have thought of something like that. How did you find it out?

You might want to have a look through the issues here, and if this one isn't described anywhere (it's not on the first page of results, but there are a few), post a new one.
Hmmm, I've never dealt with GitHub before. I'll probably do it but I don't know when.

Thanks for your answer. It's definitely appreciated! :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Question about NVDA Beta Version

 

Quentin,
Thanks. Now I definitely got it. Sorry, sometimes I'm a bit slow. LOL

Well, I'll keep an eye on the betas and download one of them some time in the future.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: strange thing in Nvda

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Gene,

I don't use Chrome, I use Mozila Firefox.

During downloading I press Ctrl+J, then I can hear the beef and also the voice saying the numbers of procents.

Jarek

Dne 19.06.2019 v 10:50 Gene napsal(a):
If you are using Chrome, that appears to be an announcement chrome generates, unlrelated to NVDA's read progress bar functions. 
 
I don't know if it can be stopped.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] strange thing in Nvda

Hello everyone,
I found that when downloading large files, Nvda reports to me how much
percent has been downloaded, although I have set it to only beep.
Don't know, please, where can the error be?

--
Jarek



-- 
Jarek


Re: Question about NVDA Beta Version

Quentin Christensen
 

If you install beta1, then yes, if we go to beta2, you'll get that.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 9:25 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Quentin,
Thanks so much, now I understood it!

Now, the last question: if for some reason a new beta appear before a stable version, what will happen?
That is, suppose I have the beta 1 for the 2019.2 version. If for some reason a new beta is needed, will I get this beta automatically since this isn't a stable version yet?

Again, thanks a lot :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Elements not being reported with NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Yes, there is a way to read these, though it is inconvenient.

Select the link (k or tab or whatever), and enter focus mode (NVDA-space). then read to end of current text (numpad plus on desktop keyboard mode), or use current and next line commands (8-9 on numpad, desktop mode) to read the current text. Then NVDA-space or escape to get back out of focus mode.

This is not the only aria-label issue currently extant, but I don't think I've seen this one mentioned specifically.

You might want to have a look through the issues here, and if this one isn't described anywhere (it's not on the first page of results, but there are a few), post a new one.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+aria-label&=&=&=&=

I tried it in FF and Chrome, and got the same results as you.

Luke


Re: Question about NVDA Beta Version

 

Quentin,
Thanks so much, now I understood it!

Now, the last question: if for some reason a new beta appear before a stable version, what will happen?
That is, suppose I have the beta 1 for the 2019.2 version. If for some reason a new beta is needed, will I get this beta automatically since this isn't a stable version yet?

Again, thanks a lot :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Question about NVDA Beta Version

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Marcio, you hadn't noticed it before, because it's a new process :)

Because we only release beta versions in the lead-up to a new stable version (unlike alpha builds, which we release every few days, or sometimes several in a day), we had made it so the beta version automatically rolls over to the final stable version when it comes out.

So, if you install 2019.2beta1, when the final 2019.2 comes out, your beta version will update to that version.  If you don't do anything else, you're back on the "stable" channel, and you'll next update to 2019.3 when it comes out.

If you want to try beta versions of 2019.3, you'll need to download the beta when it comes out, and either run it as a temporary / portable copy, or install it, in which case the process will be the same (it will update to the stable version when it comes out).

If you want to test the more bleeding edge code, you can install the alpha builds, and they will keep updating to the latest alpha build - they won't change channels on you.

So, in summary - there's no branch which will automatically update you from the beta builds of 2019.2 to the beta builds of 2019.3 when it comes out, you'll need to keep an eye on our announcements and download the first beta you want to try of any given release.  What we are hoping, is that this change will make it easier for people to try out the beta versions, knowing they will be automatically updated to the stable version when it comes out without needing to do anything extra at that time.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:24 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking about going back to the NVDA Beta Version. Currently, I'm on the "official" channel.

Before I can think more about it I have a question.
I was reading this edition of NVDA In Process and I just noticed something that I haven't noticed before.
If you install the beta version, when the final NVDA 2019.2 comes out, it will update to that version automatically. In the lead up to NVDA 2019.3, you will need to manually download a new beta once one is released, if you wish.
Does it mean then that starting with NVDA Beta 2019.3 I won't get automatic updates anymore?

Sorry for asking it now but I really haven't noticed this detail before and today the question just came up.

I'll love to be an NVDA Beta user again :) just don't feel like downloading a new version all the time. It would be way better if it could update by itself as it is with all the other versions.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Question about NVDA Beta Version

 

Hi,
I'm thinking about going back to the NVDA Beta Version. Currently, I'm on the "official" channel.

Before I can think more about it I have a question.
I was reading this edition of NVDA In Process and I just noticed something that I haven't noticed before.
If you install the beta version, when the final NVDA 2019.2 comes out, it will update to that version automatically. In the lead up to NVDA 2019.3, you will need to manually download a new beta once one is released, if you wish.
Does it mean then that starting with NVDA Beta 2019.3 I won't get automatic updates anymore?

Sorry for asking it now but I really haven't noticed this detail before and today the question just came up.

I'll love to be an NVDA Beta user again :) just don't feel like downloading a new version all the time. It would be way better if it could update by itself as it is with all the other versions.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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NV Access' New video featured in this week's In-Process

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

We have a new video: "What is NVDA?".  News on the video and a link to watch it, the call for topics for the upcoming NVDACon, and a detailed walkthrough of creating an issue on the NV Access GitHub page, are all in this week's In-Process:


Regards

Quentin.
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Elements not being reported with NVDA

 

Hi,
STR:
  1. Take a look at this article.
  2. Note that in every link, NVDA just reports "(opens in a new tab").
  3. However, looking at the source code, we can seethe real link with its description.
What's preventing NVDA from reporting the description apparently is an HTML tag. I searched a bit and could understand it but not enough for explain it here, so I'll just give an example.

Look at this part of the article:
We can show you how to (opens in a new tab).

Now its source code:

We can show you how to <a href="https://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/run-chkdsk-utility-xp/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label=" (opens in a new tab)">fix file system errors in Windows with CHKDSK</a>. </p>

In light of this, is there any workaround so that NVDA reports the description inside a <a href> tag apart from resorting to the source code of the page?

Finally, maybe this is something that can be fixed in an NVDA update altogether?

Sorry for the long message, but I needed to explain the entire story  before asking my question.

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Re: strange thing in Nvda

Gene
 

If you are using Chrome, that appears to be an announcement chrome generates, unlrelated to NVDA's read progress bar functions. 
 
I don't know if it can be stopped.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] strange thing in Nvda

Hello everyone,
I found that when downloading large files, Nvda reports to me how much
percent has been downloaded, although I have set it to only beep.
Don't know, please, where can the error be?

--
Jarek




strange thing in Nvda

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello everyone,
I found that when downloading large files, Nvda reports to me how much percent has been downloaded, although I have set it to only beep.
Don't know, please, where can the error be?

--
Jarek