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locked Re: ribbon disabler

Chris
 

Theres one called OldNewExplorer which does a similar thing to ribbon disabler

 

https://www.howto-connect.com/download-use-oldnewexplorer-windows-10/

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 20 June 2019 08:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ribbon disabler

 

hello all,

i         always use ribbon disabler the last version was 3.1 as far i know.

but now with the last update from windows it do'nt work properly anymore.

 is it possible to get the look as windows 7 like before with

ribbondisabler?

or is there already a new version of it?

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 
locked ribbon disabler

P. Otter
 

hello all,
i         always use ribbon disabler the last version was 3.1 as far i know.
but now with the last update from windows it do'nt work properly anymore.
 is it possible to get the look as windows 7 like before with ribbondisabler?
or is there already a new version of it?
cheers
paul otter
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Gene
 

Skim reading isn't the problem.  Here is the description of skim reading from the user guide.
Allow skim reading in Say All

If on, certain navigation commands (such as quick navigation in browse mode or moving by line or paragraph) do not stop Say All, rather Say All jumps to the new position and continues reading.----- Original Message -----
The description of the problem is as follows:
>On Edge and Firefox I have to let it read the entire page and cannot stop it or go back to anything else it won’t read anything else.
This is a technical problem and can't be solved by changing settings.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Rayn Darren wrote:

> On Edge and Firefox I have to let it read the entire page and cannot stop it or go back to anything else it won’t read anything else.

It sounds like you may have skim reading turned on.
Press NVDA+ctrl+k, and look for "allow skim reading in say all". If that is
checked, uncheck it. I bet firefox and whatever else will work fine after that.

You might also want to press NVDA+ctrl+b, and uncheck "Automatic say all on page
load".

Luke
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Luke Davis
 

Rayn Darren wrote:

On Edge and Firefox I have to let it read the entire page and cannot stop it or go back to anything else it won’t read anything else.
It sounds like you may have skim reading turned on.
Press NVDA+ctrl+k, and look for "allow skim reading in say all". If that is checked, uncheck it. I bet firefox and whatever else will work fine after that.

You might also want to press NVDA+ctrl+b, and uncheck "Automatic say all on page load".

Luke
Re: strange thing in Nvda

Luke Davis
 

In Firefox, if you open the download window while the file is still downloading, the download percentage is shown on screen. It may be that this changing status wasn't announced previously but is now, I can't recall, although I thought it was. In any case, this is not related to status bar progress announcements.

Regardless the solution is simple: don't watch the download in progress. In other words: if you start a large download, go browse somewhere else and don't open the downloads window (which Firefox calls a library).

Luke

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:

I found that when downloading large files, Nvda reports to me how much percent has been downloaded, although I have set it to only beep.
Don't know, please, where can the error be?
Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Luke Davis
 

I believe there was a problem with notepad++ latest version, that prevented it from working with 2019.1.1. If you use NVDA beta, the fix should be in.

Luke

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, Rayn Darren wrote:

Huh, perhaps I got a bad download then. Thanks!
NVDA is not speaking character or word selection within a cell while I try to edit a formula after pressing f2

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

NVDA is not speaking character or word selection within a cell while I try to edit a formula after pressing f2
There is a huge formula in a cell.
I want to delete part of the formula by selecting and deleting part of that formula.
NVDA does not read while I am selecting the characters and words of this formula.
Can some one guide on this?
This is currently on office computer. Have to check what happens on the home computer.
But need solution for office computer now.

--
Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office
Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  You can download Python from www.python.org as it comes with a python interactive shell.  Download and install the latest package making sure it is Python3.  Support for Python 2 will be dropped next year.  During installation, make sure you choose to have Python on your environment's path.  After installation, go to CMD, then type the following:


Python --version and you should get the following output if installation is done correctly

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.557]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\jaffar>py -3
Python 3.7.3 (v3.7.3:ef4ec6ed12, Mar 25 2019, 22:22:05) [MSC v.1916 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>


now you can output your first python program


print ("Hello Python")


output:


Hello Python!


Cheers!


On 6/19/2019 11:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 

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Pictures paint a thousand words;
Melodies paint a thousand dreams;
Music paints a thousand worlds;
Movies light up fantasy screens.
Re: interesting problem

Ame
 

 

Okay.  That’s good to know.  Guess I’m not as crazy as I thought.  Lol  Thanks guys.  I appreciate it.
Re: strange thing in Nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Maybe you got it on speak and beep.


Use the nvda key + letter U to toggle it to the one you want. for example beep, speak and beep , speak or none.


Gene nz


On 19/06/2019 8:02 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hello everyone,
I found that when downloading large files, Nvda reports to me how much percent has been downloaded, although I have set it to only beep.
Don't know, please, where can the error be?

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

Thanks just using chrome as I am already using chrome on my android and chrome OS devices.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

 

Also, at this point in time, there is nearly dead Edge, which isn't worth dedicating any effort on, and being born Chromium-based Edge, which is handled quite well by screen readers, as it is built on the same foundation as the Google Chrome web browser.

If you're interested in Edge, then you are better off using the development version, which will likely go to production in the second feature update of 2019, or use Chrome instead for the time being, as it's so similar.

If you want the direct download link for the Development (Dev) channel Chromium-based Edge, this is it:

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2084648&Channel=Dev&language=en-us&Consent=0&IID=0e01823b-e21a-5c47-9974-3e94850ff9d4

That link takes you directly to download, as I've already consented to license terms before copying it.  If you activate this you should immediately have a Save dialog presented for the Dev Edge installer.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 
Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>
 

Huh, perhaps I got a bad download then. Thanks!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

Hello,

I can use the latest version of Notepad++ just fine with NVDA. I am running NVDA 2019.2 beta 1 on a Windows 10 desktop.

 

Greg Wocher

 

On Jun 19, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...> wrote:

 

You can also use Notepad++ but do not get the latest version as it isn’t compatible with NVDA. The version, at least the  one I use on a regular basis for python and json btw, is version 7.6.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of farhan israk
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

Try microsoft visual studio code with python add-on by Microsoft.

 

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:

I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 

 
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>
 

Hmmm, thanks Brain, I’ll have to think about it, will probably just go with Chrome.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

 

Also, at this point in time, there is nearly dead Edge, which isn't worth dedicating any effort on, and being born Chromium-based Edge, which is handled quite well by screen readers, as it is built on the same foundation as the Google Chrome web browser.

If you're interested in Edge, then you are better off using the development version, which will likely go to production in the second feature update of 2019, or use Chrome instead for the time being, as it's so similar.

If you want the direct download link for the Development (Dev) channel Chromium-based Edge, this is it:

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2084648&Channel=Dev&language=en-us&Consent=0&IID=0e01823b-e21a-5c47-9974-3e94850ff9d4

That link takes you directly to download, as I've already consented to license terms before copying it.  If you activate this you should immediately have a Save dialog presented for the Dev Edge installer.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>
 

Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll give it a shot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

 

rayn

use google chrome

NVDA works very good  on chrome

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:15 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

 

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah
Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I can use the latest version of Notepad++ just fine with NVDA. I am running NVDA 2019.2 beta 1 on a Windows 10 desktop.

Greg Wocher

On Jun 19, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...> wrote:

You can also use Notepad++ but do not get the latest version as it isn’t compatible with NVDA. The version, at least the  one I use on a regular basis for python and json btw, is version 7.6.
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of farhan israk
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler
 

Try microsoft visual studio code with python add-on by Microsoft.

 
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:
I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

rayn
use google chrome
NVDA works very good  on chrome
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Brian Vogel
 

Also, at this point in time, there is nearly dead Edge, which isn't worth dedicating any effort on, and being born Chromium-based Edge, which is handled quite well by screen readers, as it is built on the same foundation as the Google Chrome web browser.

If you're interested in Edge, then you are better off using the development version, which will likely go to production in the second feature update of 2019, or use Chrome instead for the time being, as it's so similar.

If you want the direct download link for the Development (Dev) channel Chromium-based Edge, this is it:

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2084648&Channel=Dev&language=en-us&Consent=0&IID=0e01823b-e21a-5c47-9974-3e94850ff9d4

That link takes you directly to download, as I've already consented to license terms before copying it.  If you activate this you should immediately have a Save dialog presented for the Dev Edge installer.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>
 

On Edge and Firefox I have to let it read the entire page and cannot stop it or go back to anything else it won’t read anything else.

On IE I can at least read things if I stop it reading, but it’s still not 100%

 

I’m beginning to think I have a virus that is just messing with everything. I’ll do some checking and update later today. Thanks for the advice Gene!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

 

Your message implies that you have tried other browsers.  What happens when you use NVDA with most browsers.  What you describe isn't expected behavior and may require technical analysis to try to determine what is causing the problem.  Also, the frequency of crashes you are having with JAWS indicates that there may be a problem with your system that needs to be resolved.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:15 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

 

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah
Re: NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Gene
 

Your message implies that you have tried other browsers.  What happens when you use NVDA with most browsers.  What you describe isn't expected behavior and may require technical analysis to try to determine what is causing the problem.  Also, the frequency of crashes you are having with JAWS indicates that there may be a problem with your system that needs to be resolved.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft Edge

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah
NVDA and Microsoft Edge

Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>
 

I’m sure this has been discussed before, but can anyone tell me how to get Edge to work with NVDA again?  I really miss Edge and I can’t get NVDA to work on anything but IE, I hate IE.  Jaws is an option, but crashes on me at least twice a day and frankly I’m tired of it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Sarah
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