Date   

Re: NVDA on IoT Core

 

Hi,
Answer: no, as can be seen from the following Microsoft Docs page:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot-core/learn-about-hardware/iotco
reportingtool
Even if replacement API's exist, you'll need to use x86 IoT device. Also,
Windows 10 IoT Core is meant to be used in embedded environments such as
inside gadgets, not as a general-purpose operating system.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on IoT Core

I don't know that anybody has ported it to ARM, or if the various
dependencies have been ported to ARM. You might stand a chance with X86
though.
If you're going to try, some of the first few results here might be of
interest:

http://www.google.com/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&source=hp&q=%22IoT+Core%22+
%22windows+10%22+%22python%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1

The dev list might be a more helpful venue for this.

Let us know how it goes!

Luke

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019, Ali Savas wrote:

is it possible to run NVDA on IoT Core? If yes, will it only run in
x86/x64 architektures or on ARM devices too?


Re: NVDA on IoT Core

Luke Davis
 

I don't know that anybody has ported it to ARM, or if the various dependencies have been ported to ARM. You might stand a chance with X86 though.
If you're going to try, some of the first few results here might be of interest:

http://www.google.com/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&source=hp&q=%22IoT+Core%22+%22windows+10%22+%22python%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1

The dev list might be a more helpful venue for this.

Let us know how it goes!

Luke

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019, Ali Savas wrote:

is it possible to run NVDA on IoT Core? If yes, will it only run in
x86/x64 architektures or on ARM devices too?


locked windows mail shortcut keys

marvin kotler
 

Good morning listers; sorry to change topics, but where can I find a list of windows mail shortcut keys?

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


NVDA on IoT Core

Ali Savas
 

Hi,


is it possible to run NVDA on IoT Core? If yes, will it only run in
x86/x64 architektures or on ARM devices too?


I thank you in advance!


With best regards

Ali


locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

 

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 05:23 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
the first thing to do is to get your system to start up with NVDA running, so you can get yur computer up and running without sighted assistance.
Or, if it's not, use CTRL+ALT+N to fire it up.   I believe that keyboard shortcut to bring up NVDA is set up by default on installation, but it's been so long since I did a clean install of NVDA I cannot be certain of that.   I have a friend who, by intent, doesn't have NVDA fire up when her machine starts, but starts it via keyboard once things are up and she actually wants the screen reader to be active.
 
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Re: speech dictionary not being honored

 

Dan,

            I've been using Microsoft David for a while, and on my machine, with no speech dictionary tweaking of any kind, the word moreover is pronounced exactly as I'd expect, like more and over with no pause between the two words.

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Does Browse Nav add-on work with MS Word with browse mode turned on?

Akshaya Choudhary
 


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locked Re: The movie maker tool in windows 10 brief overview.

 

You can add title cards to video and text overlays on existing videos. You cannot create videos with this tool. Only edit existing videos


Re: speech dictionary not being honored

Gene
 

Try using the voice dictionary instead of the default dictionary.  That won't explain or solve the actual problem, but it may work around the problem.  You may want to try whatever word you want to add in the default dictionary first and use the voice dictionary if the entry doesn't work in the default dictionary.  But if you know you only will use this one voice, you may just want to use voice dictionary.  But since you never know if you might want to use another voice for some reason in the future, I think its better to try the default dictionary first for entries.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech dictionary not being honored

Testing with most recent alpha (17789,e03e6973), I can not replicate this. I
even downloaded the previous alpha (from Saturday), and still can't replicate
it.
  Tried both with default and temporary dictionaries.
Tried with Espeak US British, MSAPI David Desktop, and One Core David.
Windows 10, 1903.

I replaced the word "moreover" with "more sideways" in the temporary dictionary,
and "more under" in the default dictionary.

It said "more sideways" until I deleted the entry from the temp dict, and then
started saying "more under".

Luke

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019, Dan Beaver wrote:

> I noticed that some words I have had in my default speech dictionary have stopped being spoken as I had defined.  I opened the dictionary and looked and the
> words are still there. 
>
> I tried removing and reentering them, I tried entering multiple versions so that the case and surrounding wording would have no impact, and I even tried
> setting the "case sensitive", "whole word" and "anywhere" settings would help.
>
> No luck, it appears that the speech dictionary settings are being ignored at this point.
>
> I am using MS David as my synth and am using the latest master version of NVDA.
>
> An example word is "moreover".  Try it and see if you can get your synth to pronounce it correctly.  It is very possible that this is a synth problem not
> necessarily an NVDA issue.  If it is a synth issue I have no idea how to fix this in the synth.




locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Fred

I understand as I am totally blind and my wife does not have a clue about using the keyboard because she can do what she wants using the mouse.  As a blind computer user, I occasionally require sighted help and this occurs usually when for one reason or another, my computer locks up and doesn’t give me any speech output. or I cannot get some information because it is inaccessible to a screen reader.

 

As for NVDA help, there are good quality tutorials available to purchase if that would work for you or if you have a reasonable level of understanding Windows, you could have a look at the NVDA user guide and command reference guides, both of which are part of the NVDA product.

 

I don’t know what your grandson has set up for you but the first thing to do is to get your system to start up with NVDA running, so you can get yur computer up and running without sighted assistance.  Are you able to do this?  If not, let us know and the process for setting up NVDA can be described for you.

 

Cheers

Chris    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: 23 June 2019 20:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi Chris,

 

I am using gmail because my grandson has been helping me And he says that would work the best for me. He doesn’t understand me always using the keyboard and he is not blind so he doesn’t have to.

 

I will have to find  help with         NVDA.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi

I don’t understand why you would concentrate on gmail.  You are using the Windows 10 Mail app linked to a gmail account, so you do not mecessarily need to learn gmail commands, as you can already send and receive email.  If you are new to NVDA  and Windows 10, I would concentrate on learning my way around the Windows environment and understanding how NVDA works before looking at the totally different browser based interface for Gmail   

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: 23 June 2019 14:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi,  I need help on both. What I need the most is gmail as I am new to that also.

For now I will contrate on gmail.

 

Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Your subject line specifically mentions GMail.  Is that what you want help with or with Windows 10 and using NVDA with Windows 10 or all of those subjects.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Fred

Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


locked Re: The movie maker tool in windows 10 brief overview.

AKH AKH
 

Hi robert


When you say you can add titles, are these title pages or text on the actual video?  I'll certainly have a good go with this app, so thanks for alerting me to it.


Andrew



On 23/06/2019 17:06, Robert Kingett wrote:

I've been playing around with the new, windows 10, movie editing tool this morning and it is surprisingly extremely accessible, but the tool itself is extremely basic. You can add titles, add audio at certain points of the video file, and even add clipped backround music for the video. Even though the tool is very, very, very. basic. You can surely edit small video files. If you want to do more complex stuff, this is not the tool for you. All the sliders and buttons are labeled, which is really nice. I'll use this when I want to muck about with some quick editing. To find it, download the Microsoft Photos app, or just look for an app called, photos, in windows 10. Looks like you can only import video files at this stage, but still, I'm just amazed that Microsoft continues to think about accessibility, even if they miss a button here and there. I looked online for an official list of keyboard commands, but could not find any by Microsoft. I'm not sure if Microsoft is gonna make this tool an app soon, or what, but the tool does have keyboard commands. I can sometimes hear them when I am tabbing through the menus and buttons.


Re: speech dictionary not being honored

Luke Davis
 

If you are still getting this issue in latest alpha, can you confirm whether you are running the alpha installed, portable, or run from installer?

Can you try with addons disabled?

Also, can you attempt to make a portable version, run the portable version, and see if you are still getting the issue then?

Lastly, can you provide a log at full debug?

Luke


Re: speech dictionary not being honored

Luke Davis
 

Testing with most recent alpha (17789,e03e6973), I can not replicate this. I even downloaded the previous alpha (from Saturday), and still can't replicate it.
Tried both with default and temporary dictionaries.
Tried with Espeak US British, MSAPI David Desktop, and One Core David.
Windows 10, 1903.

I replaced the word "moreover" with "more sideways" in the temporary dictionary, and "more under" in the default dictionary.

It said "more sideways" until I deleted the entry from the temp dict, and then started saying "more under".

Luke

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019, Dan Beaver wrote:

I noticed that some words I have had in my default speech dictionary have stopped being spoken as I had defined.  I opened the dictionary and looked and the
words are still there. 

I tried removing and reentering them, I tried entering multiple versions so that the case and surrounding wording would have no impact, and I even tried
setting the "case sensitive", "whole word" and "anywhere" settings would help.
No luck, it appears that the speech dictionary settings are being ignored at this point.

I am using MS David as my synth and am using the latest master version of NVDA.
An example word is "moreover".  Try it and see if you can get your synth to pronounce it correctly.  It is very possible that this is a synth problem not
necessarily an NVDA issue.  If it is a synth issue I have no idea how to fix this in the synth.


Weather_Plus 6.7 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 

Goodmorning everyone,


Weather_Plus is currently unable to collect the city recurrences, there are currently problems with retrieving WOEIDs from the database, we hope it will be resolved as soon as possible.
See: http://woeid.rosselliot.co.nz/
or: http://www.woeidlookup.com/
Apart from that, however, the addon does work correctly.

Changes in this version:
• Fixed a bug when it is tested a new city and using it in temporary mode by simply press "enter" and at a later time trying to add it via the "Add" button.
• Added acronym for SOUTH GEORGIA AND THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS to the database, but unfortunately at the moment it seems that the cities of this state do not work or have incomplete data, we hope it will be solved soon.
Weather_Plus can update itself, however you can download it from the following pages:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.7.nvda-addon
Or:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/Weather_Plus.en.html
I I wish thank Noelia, Abdel, Rémy, Zvonimir and all the translators for support this addon.


Greetings
Adriano



Re: configuration saved

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thanks all
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] configuration saved

simpul.
it means the settings you chose for nvda will be saved.
like in jaws how you can setup jaws to change its voice in serten apps
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 3:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] configuration saved

accedentally i pressed control NVDA and r
i  got configuration saved
what does this mean
 


locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

marvin kotler
 

Marv here; I am totally blind also.  Been using windows since around 2000 Also hard of hearing.                 

                                                               

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

I to am totally blind. And have ben using windows since 2001. It will take practice and just memory and knwogn where you are and paying attention to what is and is not said. For example, a link normally means you can hit enter or space on it and it will open either in the same page or to anew part of the site, or a brand new site altogether. It took me a few months to get used to windows almost 20 yers ago, so if you practice you will get it to. I think most of us on the list are visually impaired and or blind as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Jun 2019, at 12:33, Fred wrote:

Hi Sarah,

 

I failed to mentioned that I am totally blind and I am not good with Windows.

I will have to find a way that works for me.

 

Thanks for your message.  I have been told that gmail isn’t the best way to go.

I have a problem with understanding the letters, the letters ending in the E sound, I am hard of hearing which doesn’t help.

I know I am making excuses and I am sorry for that.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 10:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

For gmail, go into www.gmail.com then go browse into mode with nvda space then hit the question mark. Now there will be a table that you can arrow through and memorize the key strokes slowly. I'm working on that and it will take me probably a few more months to grasp that as I'm having some brain issues shall we say, but I can do it, and so can you.

Good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Jun 2019, at 6:31, Gene wrote:

Your subject line specifically mentions GMail.  Is that what you want help with or with Windows 10 and using NVDA with Windows 10 or all of those subjects.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Fred

Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

 

I absolutely agree that knowing specific wants and needs makes tailoring advice and guidance much easier.  That being said, there are some general accessibility related factors and "commonly used/wanted, or likely to become so" features that make certain programs likely to be better choices than others, and from the outset, if long term use and the ability to get more sophisticated as the needs arise are considered.   Almost all of us have personally been through only needing the basics starting out but finding that doesn't remain the case for long.  I tend to consider what my own experience as a person and a teacher indicate are common future needs when recommending things like email clients.

To my knowledge I am the only fully sighted regular on this list.

As Chris has indicated, it also helps to have a self-assessment from anyone requesting help about their own level of proficiency with what they have used, and information about exactly when that was and what was used.   For example, someone who was really proficient with JAWS 8 and Windows 7, last used 15 years ago, is going to be a lot more like a complete beginner than someone who used (or uses) JAWS 16 under Windows 8.1 or 10.
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locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Fred

It would probably help list members if you gave an idea of what sort of things you use, or want to use the computer for and whether you use it regularly or are just an occasional user.  You say you have used Window Eyes in the past, which means you have used Windows before, so what versions of Windows have you used and how well do you feel you got on with them?

 

If we can get a handle on your needs, it would make it easier to make recommendations to help you get the right tools for the things you want to do.

 

Cheers

Chris

  

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: 23 June 2019 20:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi Chris,

 

Thanks for your information.

I don’t know what my options are.

I think Outlook is similar with the old program I used Outlook express.

If that is correct I would like that.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi

I don’t understand why you would concentrate on gmail.  You are using the Windows 10 Mail app linked to a gmail account, so you do not mecessarily need to learn gmail commands, as you can already send and receive email.  If you are new to NVDA  and Windows 10, I would concentrate on learning my way around the Windows environment and understanding how NVDA works before looking at the totally different browser based interface for Gmail   

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred
Sent: 23 June 2019 14:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi,  I need help on both. What I need the most is gmail as I am new to that also.

For now I will contrate on gmail.

 

Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Your subject line specifically mentions GMail.  Is that what you want help with or with Windows 10 and using NVDA with Windows 10 or all of those subjects.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Fred

Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

Sarah k Alawami
 

I to am totally blind. And have ben using windows since 2001. It will take practice and just memory and knwogn where you are and paying attention to what is and is not said. For example, a link normally means you can hit enter or space on it and it will open either in the same page or to anew part of the site, or a brand new site altogether. It took me a few months to get used to windows almost 20 yers ago, so if you practice you will get it to. I think most of us on the list are visually impaired and or blind as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Jun 2019, at 12:33, Fred wrote:

Hi Sarah,

 

I failed to mentioned that I am totally blind and I am not good with Windows.

I will have to find a way that works for me.

 

Thanks for your message.  I have been told that gmail isn’t the best way to go.

I have a problem with understanding the letters, the letters ending in the E sound, I am hard of hearing which doesn’t help.

I know I am making excuses and I am sorry for that.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 10:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

For gmail, go into www.gmail.com then go browse into mode with nvda space then hit the question mark. Now there will be a table that you can arrow through and memorize the key strokes slowly. I'm working on that and it will take me probably a few more months to grasp that as I'm having some brain issues shall we say, but I can do it, and so can you.

Good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Jun 2019, at 6:31, Gene wrote:

Your subject line specifically mentions GMail.  Is that what you want help with or with Windows 10 and using NVDA with Windows 10 or all of those subjects.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Fred

Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:28 AM

Subject: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

First of all you have to think  like a sighted person, means both windows you want to drag and drop must be visible on your screen. You mark the element on on the first screen, then you switch to the other screen focus your focus to where you want to drop the element and then hit the shortcut as described.

Again, the windows shouldn’t overlap, it all works as it does for sighted peopl.

 

When it comes to browser source and target windows this drag and drop method is not very reliable, for all screen readers around….

 

Cheers,

Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sonntag, 23. Juni 2019 12:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Ralf,

Wow so this is as simple as that. Thanks, I really didn't know.

Now suppose it: I'm on one of these sites where you can share files by dragging and dropping them.
How can I drag the files to the other window, in this case, where I should drop it?

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

 

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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