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Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Luke Davis
 

Marvin

What is a "hard restart"? To me, that's holding the power button for five seconds to force a shutdown, which is not a good thing to ever do if you can avoid it. Since there are probably ways to avoid it here, I wanted to find out if that is actually what you're doing.

As for what's happening: it's the tablet mode thing, as other answers have explained.
It isn't an NVDA problem, it is a Windows one.

Either you're on a laptop (such as One of those ridiculous HP Stream X360 models) that switch to tablet mode when you bend the screen back far enough, in which case the keyboard is disabled and tablet mode is activated, or something you're doing is turning on tablet mode manually.

In any case, a google search for: '"get out of tablet mode" windows 10', gives this as its sixth result:
https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t63010625/windows-10-another-glitch-called-tablet-mode/
and this as its second result:
https://appuals.com/fix-windows-10-stuck-in-tablet-mode/

One of those will almost certainly help you, and if not, there are other results in that search.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&source=hp&q=%22get+out+of+tablet+mode%22+windows+10&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1

Luke

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar
and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for
something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

locked Re: new ribbon disabler available.

 

Hmmm interesting.

Now is that version better than old new explorer?

The fact old new has extra shell features for screens and themes and visual images and since its a shell extention it seems to be able to handle more than the ribbon.

On 27/06/2019 9:58 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hello all!
winaero was so kind to create a new version of ribbondisabler version 4!
after the last update of windows 10 there was an error message while activate the ribbondisabler version 3.1
so every one has to work with the ribon, if you like or not.
when you start the ribbondisabler version 3.1 now, there is a pop-up that a new version is availlable do you want to download yes or no.
press yes and you will go to the website where you can download the new version 4 of ribbondisabler.
succes!
paul otter



Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm not mod, but perhaps moving this to the chat group would probably be more feasible. See the message archives for the link tot he nvda sub group or go to groups.io, click on your groups, click on nvda, click the at sign then click sub groups.

Take care

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On 27 Jun 2019, at 12:59, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I wasn’t really thinking properly yet when I wrote that last message; if you have a standard PC monitor you will probably want it to display in landscape rather than portrait, which is, I think, generally more suited for phones and such with narrow displays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 27, 2019 3:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

 

sounds like a display issue. I would not change it as if you do your sightlings will have to turn their head sideways to see the screen properly. Have you tried hitting windows d to get to the desktop? I'm guessing now, also check for driver updates just in case?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 27 Jun 2019, at 11:42, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Gene
 

I made a typographical error in my last message and wrote table mode instead of tablet mode in one sentence.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

But changing the screen orientation using shortcuts, which often happens inadvertently, doesn't cause this problem.  it sounds to me as though the tablet mode guess may well be correct.  I haven't looked to any extent at information, but results of a Google search seem to indicate that in table mode autorotation occurs under certain conditions.  So instructing on how to leave tablet mode may well solve the problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Yeah, I wasn’t really thinking properly yet when I wrote that last message; if you have a standard PC monitor you will probably want it to display in landscape rather than portrait, which is, I think, generally more suited for phones and such with narrow displays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 27, 2019 3:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

 

sounds like a display issue. I would not change it as if you do your sightlings will have to turn their head sideways to see the screen properly. Have you tried hitting windows d to get to the desktop? I'm guessing now, also check for driver updates just in case?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 27 Jun 2019, at 11:42, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Gene
 

But changing the screen orientation using shortcuts, which often happens inadvertently, doesn't cause this problem.  it sounds to me as though the tablet mode guess may well be correct.  I haven't looked to any extent at information, but results of a Google search seem to indicate that in table mode autorotation occurs under certain conditions.  So instructing on how to leave tablet mode may well solve the problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Yeah, I wasn’t really thinking properly yet when I wrote that last message; if you have a standard PC monitor you will probably want it to display in landscape rather than portrait, which is, I think, generally more suited for phones and such with narrow displays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 27, 2019 3:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

 

sounds like a display issue. I would not change it as if you do your sightlings will have to turn their head sideways to see the screen properly. Have you tried hitting windows d to get to the desktop? I'm guessing now, also check for driver updates just in case?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 27 Jun 2019, at 11:42, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

JM Casey
 

Yeah, I wasn’t really thinking properly yet when I wrote that last message; if you have a standard PC monitor you will probably want it to display in landscape rather than portrait, which is, I think, generally more suited for phones and such with narrow displays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 27, 2019 3:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

 

sounds like a display issue. I would not change it as if you do your sightlings will have to turn their head sideways to see the screen properly. Have you tried hitting windows d to get to the desktop? I'm guessing now, also check for driver updates just in case?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 27 Jun 2019, at 11:42, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

JM Casey
 

Well, not sure, but it sounds like screen orientation. Never had this come up with windows but I definitely keep my phone locked in portrait rather than landscape mode. Um, could you have turned on tablet mode by accident?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: June 27, 2019 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

 

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

Sarah k Alawami
 

sounds like a display issue. I would not change it as if you do your sightlings will have to turn their head sideways to see the screen properly. Have you tried hitting windows d to get to the desktop? I'm guessing now, also check for driver updates just in case?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 27 Jun 2019, at 11:42, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

nvda gets stuck on something called landscape

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon listers; first, running latest version of nvda and windows 1903.  When something called landscape comes up, nvda gets stuck on the taskbar and will go nowhere else.  I have to do a hard restart of the computer when this happens.  My question is what is landscape; can I get rid of this for something else more friendly? Thanks in advance.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: Couple questions about portable version of NVDA

Luke
 

Tiflotecnia

On Jun 27, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Tiflotecnia

Community add-ons notice: Audio Themes add-on removed from stable distribution channel on add-ons website

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

Please circulate the following community-wide notice to all channels devoted to NVDA and other places:

 

Over the last few months, the add-ons community has received countless compatibility reports regarding Audio Themes 3D add-on. The latest of these, as detailed in a recent NVDA issue filed on GitHub, describes a change made to 2019.2 where the add-on would fail to start correctly due to a missing component in NvDA settings interface used by this add-on. Given this bug, coupled with other bugs reported from the NVDA community, the add-ons website maintainers decided to pull Audio Themes 3D from stable channel distribution until reported bugs are resolved. Note that this add-on will remain under development section and translations will continue to be generated, and updates for this will be checked by Add-on Updater.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Couple questions about portable version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

First question, what Vocalizer are you using? From Tiflotecnia or from CodeFactory?

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 17:24 de 27/06/2019, Luke escreveu:

Hi! My first post here. I am using Windows 10 and the latest installer version of NVDA 2019 1 point 1 on the desktop. I am using a high premium voice from vocalizer and I made a portable version I downloaded straight to a thumb drive from The download from the desktop. I tried it out on a laptop running windows 10 and yay it worked, but the voice I feel could be more responsive. If I download the compact version of the voice on the desktop and use that to make a another portable version will that make the voice more responsive on the laptop? Is that is why the compact version exists? Also, I know Espeek is more responsive and to put Espeek with my current saved settings and add ons on a portable version I would have to disable my current vocalizer voice first right? Last but not least I noticed there is another Luke on here so please don’t get confused as he is probably smarter, more informative and better looking than me LOL.

locked Re: using Ublock

Nimer Jaber
 

And, this topic is off topic. thanks for everyone participating. Furthermore, and I will write another message on this soon... if you are a long-time member, and you persist in writing off-topic messages unrelated to NVDA, the next message you hear from me is a week-long posting ban. The second time it happens, posting privileges will be revoked for one month, and the final time will be a perminent revokation of posting privileges.

we have over 1000 members on this list, we need to do our best to stick to the topic at hand, which is NVDA.

thanks.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:02 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Gene,

            Well, that's not the context that exists relative to the question asked.   I answered a question about how to access uBlock Origin to turn if off for a site or page, which means you need to be on the site/page for which you are attempting to turn it off.  I was focusing on that question as one about "how to access" rather than "how to use" as well.

            The instructions are context specific, not generic.  But ALT will throw focus to the Chrome menu button if you are on any webpage with focus.  If you're in the omnibar then you're in text-entry mode, where ALT does nothing in context.
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Couple questions about portable version of NVDA

Luke
 

Hi! My first post here. I am using Windows 10 and the latest installer version of NVDA 2019 1 point 1 on the desktop. I am using a high premium voice from vocalizer and I made a portable version I downloaded straight to a thumb drive from The download from the desktop. I tried it out on a laptop running windows 10 and yay it worked, but the voice I feel could be more responsive. If I download the compact version of the voice on the desktop and use that to make a another portable version will that make the voice more responsive on the laptop? Is that is why the compact version exists? Also, I know Espeek is more responsive and to put Espeek with my current saved settings and add ons on a portable version I would have to disable my current vocalizer voice first right? Last but not least I noticed there is another Luke on here so please don’t get confused as he is probably smarter, more informative and better looking than me LOL.

locked Re: using Ublock

 

Gene,

            Well, that's not the context that exists relative to the question asked.   I answered a question about how to access uBlock Origin to turn if off for a site or page, which means you need to be on the site/page for which you are attempting to turn it off.  I was focusing on that question as one about "how to access" rather than "how to use" as well.

            The instructions are context specific, not generic.  But ALT will throw focus to the Chrome menu button if you are on any webpage with focus.  If you're in the omnibar then you're in text-entry mode, where ALT does nothing in context.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 

locked Re: using Ublock

Gene
 

After experimenting further and trying different things, it appears to depend on where you are when the program opens.  I can see what you are describing if I am not in the address bar when the program opens.  If I am there, pressing alt does nothing.  I have the about:blank page open and I am usually in the address bar when the program opens, which explains why I didn't see what you described when I tried it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using Ublock

Gene,

          While you may be having difficulties, the instruction that ALT throws focus to the menu button in any Chromium-based browser I've ever touched that has one is beyond question.  It doesn't cause the menu to open, it does nothing but throw focus to the menu button at the upper rightmost position on the browser controls.  It even does that in the Chromium-based Edge browser.

          Left arrowing after that will take you, control by control, through what's there, eventually including the omnibar (address box), which is where the traversal by left arrowing hits its end point.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 

locked Re: using Ublock

 

Gene,

          While you may be having difficulties, the instruction that ALT throws focus to the menu button in any Chromium-based browser I've ever touched that has one is beyond question.  It doesn't cause the menu to open, it does nothing but throw focus to the menu button at the upper rightmost position on the browser controls.  It even does that in the Chromium-based Edge browser.

          Left arrowing after that will take you, control by control, through what's there, eventually including the omnibar (address box), which is where the traversal by left arrowing hits its end point.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 

Re: Accessibility of Free Website Creators

 

To actually answer your question, freewebs.com is reasonably accessible, with a few unlabeled buttons that can be OCR'd if you really need to know the button. But, the best bet, as of now, is wordpress.com. Wix, Weebly, Squarespace, are not accessible with the keyboard at all. Give free webs dot com a try and if that does not work, use wordpress.com. Sincerely, a person who actually tried to answer your question.

locked new ribbon disabler available.

P. Otter
 

hello all!
winaero was so kind to create a new version of ribbondisabler version 4!
after the last update of windows 10 there was an error message while activate the ribbondisabler version 3.1
so every one has to work with the ribon, if you like or not.
when you start the ribbondisabler version 3.1 now, there is a pop-up that a new version is availlable do you want to download yes or no.
press yes and you will go to the website where you can download the new version 4 of ribbondisabler.
succes!
paul otter

locked Re: using Ublock

Hareth
 

Yes, that's why!
Each extension installed should have its own "button sub menu"
appeared after pressing the alt button, followed by the left arrow.

On 6/27/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It may be because I don't have any extensions installed that nothing appears
to happen when I do that. I had expected it to open the entire extensions
part of Chrome.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Hareth
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 1:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] using Ublock


Its a bit tricky.
1st, You need to have some or at least one extension added to the browser.
After pressing the alt button, that brings up the "chrome menu, button
sub menu",
Use the left arrow, that should get you to the right place.
That worked for me even with windows7.

On 6/27/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
There appears to be a problem with your Chrome instructions, at least for
some users. On my Windows 7 system, they don't work as to how to get to
the
right place. If I press alt, I'm not sure what happens but nothing
usable
appears to happen and arrowing appears to do nothing or nothing
meaningful.

To open the Chrome menu, I use alt f. That is, I press and hold alt and
type f. That opens the Chrome menu. I then up arrow, its closer, to
more
tools and press enter. that opens a submenu and I find and press
extensions
in that submenu. That appears to open the part of the program where you
work with the extension or add-on, technically I'm not sure what it is.

As is very often the case, there is likely another or perhaps more than
one
other way to get to that place. Your instructions may work for some
people
but since they don't work on my system, what I'm describing will probably
get people to the right place.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] using Ublock


Steve,

It's fairly straightforward, at least if you're using Chrome,
and
I'll proceed upon that presumption which you can correct if it's wrong.
The
info will be useful for others in any case.


1.. Hit ALT to throw focus to the Chrome menu button.
2.. Hit Right Arrow the number of times necessary, based on what
extensions you may have installed, to land on the uBlock Origin button.
3.. Hit Enter to open the uBlock Origin dropdown.
4.. Hit TAB once to get to the button you're looking for. Listen to
what
NVDA says, because you can turn of uBlock origin for the site as a whole
or
just the specific page you're currently on.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

~ H.L. Mencken