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Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Monte Single
 

Jaws is a screenreader like nvda or narrator.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: July-06-19 10:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

 

What is Jaws?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francis Leadley
Sent: Samstag, 6. Juli 2019 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

 

Does JAWS work with EPUB


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

What is Jaws?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francis Leadley
Sent: Samstag, 6. Juli 2019 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

 

Does JAWS work with EPUB


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Francis Leadley
 

Does JAWS work with EPUB


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Richard Wells
 

Felix: I use Q-Read to read epub using NVDA. Beyond that, this would
border on being off-topic for the NVDA main group, so I'll stop right there.

On 7/6/2019 3:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix


locked Re: Follow-up to recent earthquakes in Los Angeles: I'm suspending all my NVDA activities until further notice

 

Per author's request, as this was meant as a one-way announcement/status message, this topic is now locked.
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locked Follow-up to recent earthquakes in Los Angeles: I'm suspending all my NVDA activities until further notice

 

Hi all,

 

Some of you on Twitter may have seen my tweet from last night – shortly after the larger earthquake hit Los Angeles: due to ongoing coverage of Los Angeles earthquakes (I felt both and am safe), I’m suspending all NVDA related activities until further notice. This includes vast majority of Project Threshold work (except for one or two pull requests), all add-on activities, and high-level translation management.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: virtual machine software

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hej,

Am 04.07.2019 um 04:31 schrieb Shaun Everiss:
What software should I be using.
I know vmware is popular but I was thinking about virtualbox, however since I want a user to be able to do things, is virtualbox accessible.
Yes, it is, at least with the latest stable NVDA release. and you also can use the command line to setup and configure virtual machines.


I know VMware Player 14, VMware Workstation 14 and VMware Workstation 15 and the latest VirtualBox release. All can be used with NVDA more or less comftable.

Personaly I'd use VirtualBox, because its free and open source. I need to run linux inside my VMs and therefore I need to use a braille display, but unfortunatly I was not able to connect my Handytech braille display via a virtual usb port to the Linux VM setup with VirtualBox. It was much easier to setup with VMware, thats why use VMware at the moment, but maybe I'll switch in future.

If you do not have that problems with a braille display attaching to the VM, use VirtualBox, othervice use VMware. If you only need to run one VM and have not the need to use more VMs at the same time, you can use the free VMware player. If you need to run more VM at the same time, VMware Workstation is OK, but as said, only if VirtualBox does not work on your system.

Regarding HyperV I only can say, that running linux inside is not possible, at least if you need to output sound. Thats why I not longer tested HyperV. If you like to run VMs with Windows inside, it might also be a good choice.

Cheers,

Schoepp


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

 

Hello,

One small correction. Balabolka does support table of contents. It imports it as "named bookmarks", which can be found in the "Bookmarks" menu or by pressing F2.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 6.7.2019 г. в 15:43, Aman Singer написа:

Hi,

	The only two programs I know of which support most of Epub's features (tables of contents, notes, links, etc.) on Windows are QRead
https://q-continuum.net/qread/
and Dolphin's Easy Reader
https://yourdolphin.com/products/education/easyreader-for-windows
	
	QRead is excellent, fast, stable, can open huge files smoothly on very low-power machines, and is basically an amazing application. The author seems to have more or less abandoned it, but I would respectfully suggest it's worth buying for what it is now.
	EasyReader is not as fast or stable, its access to libraries is nice, but it seems to be a package sold to sighted people for blind people to use rather than sold to blind people themselves. I found it unusable generally and gave up on it. Balabolca is really nice but doesn't support, so far as I know, tables of contents at all. I would love to be wrong about this, but it basically makes your epub one long text file. Both Firefox and Edge support opening epubs, though I believe Firefox still needs extensions to do this properly. In any case, I have found that browser support for the files is bad. Navigation is difficult, loading is slow, and some files just don't work. Kurzweil 1000, and I think Openbook, also support Epub, but only as part of their other functions, I wouldn't buy them just for that support. I may say that they're both slower and more unwieldy than QRead for just reading, though obviously they do far more than read. I hope that's of use, and would welcome corrections or additions, it's always good to have many ways of doing things. I am tempted to say that the only really smooth way of reading Epub on Windows is QRead. I wish it weren't so, it's never good to be stuck with one application, particularly when that application has been more or less left and requires online activation, but it's where we are as far as I can see.
Aman
 -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix








Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

The only two programs I know of which support most of Epub's features (tables of contents, notes, links, etc.) on Windows are QRead
https://q-continuum.net/qread/
and Dolphin's Easy Reader
https://yourdolphin.com/products/education/easyreader-for-windows

QRead is excellent, fast, stable, can open huge files smoothly on very low-power machines, and is basically an amazing application. The author seems to have more or less abandoned it, but I would respectfully suggest it's worth buying for what it is now.
EasyReader is not as fast or stable, its access to libraries is nice, but it seems to be a package sold to sighted people for blind people to use rather than sold to blind people themselves. I found it unusable generally and gave up on it. Balabolca is really nice but doesn't support, so far as I know, tables of contents at all. I would love to be wrong about this, but it basically makes your epub one long text file. Both Firefox and Edge support opening epubs, though I believe Firefox still needs extensions to do this properly. In any case, I have found that browser support for the files is bad. Navigation is difficult, loading is slow, and some files just don't work. Kurzweil 1000, and I think Openbook, also support Epub, but only as part of their other functions, I wouldn't buy them just for that support. I may say that they're both slower and more unwieldy than QRead for just reading, though obviously they do far more than read. I hope that's of use, and would welcome corrections or additions, it's always good to have many ways of doing things. I am tempted to say that the only really smooth way of reading Epub on Windows is QRead. I wish it weren't so, it's never good to be stuck with one application, particularly when that application has been more or less left and requires online activation, but it's where we are as far as I can see.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Wow, that’s an amazing piece of software!

I downloaded the portable version and tried it out with some of my ebooks in different formats.

The program seems to be fully accessible in most parts and is easy to handle. It continues where you stopped with your ebook, gives text to speech out put through your installed Sapi synthesizers and you even can convert the complete book to MP3 in a few seconds, really impressive.

Thanks for this tip!

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jarek.Krcmar
Sent: Samstag, 6. Juli 2019 11:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

 

Hi,

for reading epup format can program Balabolka.

It is both instal version and also portable version.

You can it download it here:

 

http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

Jarek

Dne 06.07.2019 v 11:06 Andy B. napsal(a):

Hi,

 

If you press F1 while in Edge, there is a help segment that includes keyboard shortcuts for epub files. It should tell you how to navigate your epub file.

 

 

From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

 

Hi,

with Edge, NVDA sees only the first portion of the book, and now

amount of arrowing down will get me to the next page at some point.

Also, how do I get to the table of contents? There's a toolbar button

called table of contents, but when I press it, nothing seems to

happen.

What's the secret to reading an epub with NVDA and Edge efficiently?

Best,

Felix

 

Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Andy B. <sonfire11@...>:

> Hi,

> Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.

> From: Felix G.

> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

> Hi folks,

> I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with

> NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional

> content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be

> complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.

> I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not

> what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading

> without jumping through hoops.

> Thanks in advance,

> Felix

>

 

 

 

-- 
Jarek


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

john s
 

Ollie, from another list, I wanted to tell you how to handle zip files. Just navigate to the file, hit your context key and arrow to extract. Or, maybe it says extract all. By default, the files will be put in a directory under your current directory with the zip file name as the name of the directory. Go into that directory and do what you want with the files.

At 07:02 AM 7/6/2019, Mallard, wrote:



Quread is very good, but it isn't free. I had a very negative experience with Balabolka years ago, because the books were not parsed correctly.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 06/07/2019 12:03, john s ha scritto:
A program called Balabolka will read them and a paid program, QRead, is good too.

At 04:55 AM 7/6/2019, Andy B., wrote:
Hi,

Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.



*From: *Felix G. <mailto:constantlyvariable@...>
*Sent: *Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix


John
John


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Yes,

program Balabolka is compatible with Nvda.

It reads the format Epup as txt and you open Balabolka, find epup format and you start the reading.

You can use also two keys: Key F5 for reading and key F7 for stop the reading.

Balabolka can also convert textfiles to mp3.

Jarek

Dne 06.07.2019 v 11:38 Felix G. napsal(a):

Hi Jarek,
thanks. Can you please explain how it interacts with NVDA?
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 11:34 Uhr schrieb Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...>:
Hi,

for reading epup format can program Balabolka.

It is both instal version and also portable version.

You can it download it here:


http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

Jarek

Dne 06.07.2019 v 11:06 Andy B. napsal(a):

Hi,



If you press F1 while in Edge, there is a help segment that includes keyboard shortcuts for epub files. It should tell you how to navigate your epub file.





From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA



Hi,

with Edge, NVDA sees only the first portion of the book, and now

amount of arrowing down will get me to the next page at some point.

Also, how do I get to the table of contents? There's a toolbar button

called table of contents, but when I press it, nothing seems to

happen.

What's the secret to reading an epub with NVDA and Edge efficiently?

Best,

Felix



Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Andy B. <sonfire11@...>:

Hi,
Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.
From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix





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Jarek

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Jarek


Re: NVDA Saying "Edit" Before Every Line in Microsoft Word After Google Docs Changes It

 

Hello,
I found out how to remove this "edit" before each line.
Select all and go to the applications menu (right-click) then hit enter on "Remove Content Controls, E". This made the document read normally.

Are content controlled documents not reading correctly known to the NVDA development team?
Thank you,


On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Brandon Keith Biggs via Groups.Io <brandonkeithbiggs=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,
Google Docs has now made it so you can edit .docx files in Google Docs without making a new file. I have been loving this feature, but I was just trying to accept suggestions from someone in Google Docs, and now when I open Word, every line says "edit" before it, even if I change the views.
Does anyone know how to get word back to normal?
Thanks,


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Mallard
 

Quread is very good, but it isn't free. I had a very negative experience with Balabolka years ago, because the books were not parsed correctly.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 06/07/2019 12:03, john s ha scritto:
A program called Balabolka will read them and a paid program, QRead, is good too.

At 04:55 AM 7/6/2019, Andy B., wrote:
Hi,

Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.



*From: *Felix G. <mailto:constantlyvariable@...>
*Sent: *Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix


        John


NVDA Saying "Edit" Before Every Line in Microsoft Word After Google Docs Changes It

 

Hello,
Google Docs has now made it so you can edit .docx files in Google Docs without making a new file. I have been loving this feature, but I was just trying to accept suggestions from someone in Google Docs, and now when I open Word, every line says "edit" before it, even if I change the views.
Does anyone know how to get word back to normal?
Thanks,


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

john s
 

A program called Balabolka will read them and a paid program, QRead, is good too.


At 04:55 AM 7/6/2019, Andy B., wrote:
Hi,
 
Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.
 
 
 
From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA
 
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix
 
 
 

                 John


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Felix G.
 

Hi Jarek,
thanks. Can you please explain how it interacts with NVDA?
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 11:34 Uhr schrieb Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...>:


Hi,

for reading epup format can program Balabolka.

It is both instal version and also portable version.

You can it download it here:


http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

Jarek

Dne 06.07.2019 v 11:06 Andy B. napsal(a):

Hi,



If you press F1 while in Edge, there is a help segment that includes keyboard shortcuts for epub files. It should tell you how to navigate your epub file.





From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA



Hi,

with Edge, NVDA sees only the first portion of the book, and now

amount of arrowing down will get me to the next page at some point.

Also, how do I get to the table of contents? There's a toolbar button

called table of contents, but when I press it, nothing seems to

happen.

What's the secret to reading an epub with NVDA and Edge efficiently?

Best,

Felix



Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Andy B. <sonfire11@...>:

Hi,
Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.
From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix






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Jarek


Re: In-Process 5th July

Quentin Christensen
 

Whoops!

I forgot to mark it as being an In-Process post, thanks for picking that up!

I've fixed it now so it should be visible from https://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/ as well as the direct link to the post which is: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-5th-july/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 3:53 AM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Don,
If I go to
https://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/
I don't see this July entry.
Yikes, I can't see it, either.
Anyway, you can read it going to this link. Happy reading!

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi,

for reading epup format can program Balabolka.

It is both instal version and also portable version.

You can it download it here:


http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

Jarek

Dne 06.07.2019 v 11:06 Andy B. napsal(a):

Hi,

 

If you press F1 while in Edge, there is a help segment that includes keyboard shortcuts for epub files. It should tell you how to navigate your epub file.

 

 

From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

 

Hi,

with Edge, NVDA sees only the first portion of the book, and now

amount of arrowing down will get me to the next page at some point.

Also, how do I get to the table of contents? There's a toolbar button

called table of contents, but when I press it, nothing seems to

happen.

What's the secret to reading an epub with NVDA and Edge efficiently?

Best,

Felix

 

Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Andy B. <sonfire11@...>:

> Hi,

> Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.

> From: Felix G.

> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA

> Hi folks,

> I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with

> NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional

> content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be

> complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.

> I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not

> what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading

> without jumping through hoops.

> Thanks in advance,

> Felix

>

 

 

 

-- 
Jarek


Re: Reading epub books with NVDA

Felix G.
 

Hi,
is this really becoming an rtfm list? *grin*
The help page that opens when I press f1 does not mention epub,
neither does it link to anything that looks like it might mention
epub. Could you please provide a direct link?
Have you tried reading a large book with NVDA and Edge? Did you find
the experience delightful? If so, how did you navigate?
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 11:06 Uhr schrieb Andy B. <sonfire11@...>:


Hi,



If you press F1 while in Edge, there is a help segment that includes keyboard shortcuts for epub files. It should tell you how to navigate your epub file.





From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA



Hi,

with Edge, NVDA sees only the first portion of the book, and now

amount of arrowing down will get me to the next page at some point.

Also, how do I get to the table of contents? There's a toolbar button

called table of contents, but when I press it, nothing seems to

happen.

What's the secret to reading an epub with NVDA and Edge efficiently?

Best,

Felix



Am Sa., 6. Juli 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb Andy B. <sonfire11@...>:

Hi,
Have you tried Edge? It opens epub files, and it works with NVDA for the most part.
From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading epub books with NVDA
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a convenient and easy way to read an epub book with
NVDA. With epub being just html plus metadata and some additional
content wrapped in a zip container, I feel this shouldn't be
complicated. Any helpful pointers would make my day.
I know about Calibre and converting books to docx/pdf/txt. That's not
what I mean. I'd like to be able to open an epub and start reading
without jumping through hoops.
Thanks in advance,
Felix