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Re: Proposal for a new braille feature

 

Hi Quentin,
I think without use of a hack from Jamie (NV Access), it becomes a bit hard to hunt down issues via GitHub. For me, a Google search with some keywords helps in locating the ticket in question or an issue that references the original ticket.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Proposal for a new braille feature

Thanks Joseph - I did look before adding the new issue but nothing else came up for me.

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On 13 July 2016 at 10:26, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

It turns out we do have several tickets regarding this suggestion.
Thus I’ll go ahead and close others.

The actual ticket in question:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3022

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Proposal for a new braille feature



Hi Jordy, everyone.



This is a good suggestion, and I've created an issue to officially
request it / track its implementation on Github:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6171



Jordy particularly, if you are on GitHub, if you comment on that
issue, you will be notified of progress of the feature.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, erik burggraaf
<erik@erik-burggraaf.com>
wrote:

Hi I just did some research on this and I found out that alt + F7 goes
to the next misspelled word in Microsoft Office applications. so if
your cursor is blinking to show you which letter you are on with your
Braille display than the first letter of the misspelled word should
half the blinking cursor. please let us know if this works for you at
least as a temporary workaround. if it's actually effective then the
developers may not want to implement the feature the same as it would
have been in Jaws or supernova

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On July 12, 2016 4:16:20 PM "Webmaster Deweer"
<webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be>
wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to propose a new feature for the braille output in NVDA.

In many other screenreaders, you can view miss spelled words (and bad
grammar) in braille with a line of dots 7 and 8, well or not blinking.
By
example: in Jaws I can activate a feature that helps in MS Office to
show spelling and grammar mistakes with a constant line of dots seven and eight.
In Supernova I can do the same, but there the line blinks.

Is it possible to add a feature as described above in NVDA 2016.3 or
in a newer version?

I cannot program in Python 2.7, or not good enough in Python 3.5, so I
can’t help, but I will help if I can!

Hope someone’ll add this proposal to GitHub!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Jordy Deweer.





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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Proposal for a new braille feature

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Joseph - I did look before adding the new issue but nothing
else came up for me.

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On 13 July 2016 at 10:26, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

It turns out we do have several tickets regarding this suggestion. Thus I’ll
go ahead and close others.

The actual ticket in question:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3022

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Proposal for a new braille feature



Hi Jordy, everyone.



This is a good suggestion, and I've created an issue to officially request
it / track its implementation on Github:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6171



Jordy particularly, if you are on GitHub, if you comment on that issue, you
will be notified of progress of the feature.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@erik-burggraaf.com>
wrote:

Hi I just did some research on this and I found out that alt + F7 goes to
the next misspelled word in Microsoft Office applications. so if your
cursor is blinking to show you which letter you are on with your Braille
display than the first letter of the misspelled word should half the
blinking cursor. please let us know if this works for you at least as a
temporary workaround. if it's actually effective then the developers may not
want to implement the feature the same as it would have been in Jaws or
supernova

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On July 12, 2016 4:16:20 PM "Webmaster Deweer" <webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be>
wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to propose a new feature for the braille output in NVDA.

In many other screenreaders, you can view miss spelled words (and bad
grammar) in braille with a line of dots 7 and 8, well or not blinking. By
example: in Jaws I can activate a feature that helps in MS Office to show
spelling and grammar mistakes with a constant line of dots seven and eight.
In Supernova I can do the same, but there the line blinks.

Is it possible to add a feature as described above in NVDA 2016.3 or in a
newer version?

I cannot program in Python 2.7, or not good enough in Python 3.5, so I can’t
help, but I will help if I can!

Hope someone’ll add this proposal to GitHub!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Jordy Deweer.





--

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Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Proposal for a new braille feature

 

Hi everyone,

It turns out we do have several tickets regarding this suggestion. Thus I’ll go ahead and close others.

The actual ticket in question:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3022

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Proposal for a new braille feature

 

Hi Jordy, everyone.

 

This is a good suggestion, and I've created an issue to officially request it / track its implementation on Github: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6171

 

Jordy particularly, if you are on GitHub, if you comment on that issue, you will be notified of progress of the feature.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:

Hi I just did some research on this and I found out that alt + F7 goes to the next misspelled word in Microsoft Office applications.  so if your cursor is blinking to show you which letter you are on with your Braille display than the first letter of the misspelled word should half the blinking cursor.  please let us know if this works for you at least as a temporary workaround. if it's actually effective then the developers may not want to implement the feature the same as it would have been in Jaws or supernova

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On July 12, 2016 4:16:20 PM "Webmaster Deweer" <webmaster_deweer@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to propose a new feature for the braille output in NVDA.

In many other screenreaders, you can view miss spelled words (and bad grammar) in braille with a line of dots 7 and 8, well or not blinking. By example: in Jaws I can activate a feature that helps in MS Office to show spelling and grammar mistakes with a constant line of dots seven and eight. In Supernova I can do the same, but there the line blinks.

Is it possible to add a feature as described above in NVDA 2016.3 or in a newer version?

I cannot program in Python 2.7, or not good enough in Python 3.5, so I can’t help, but I will help if I can!

Hope someone’ll add this proposal to GitHub!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Jordy Deweer.



 

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Training Material Developer

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: PayPal seems to be browser related

Gene
 

When a site doesn't work correctly with one browser, one of the first things that should be tried is at least one different browser if the person uses more than one.  And every demanding blind Internet user should have at least two browsers on their machine.   
 
From:
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 4:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] PayPal seems to be browser related

I just tried using PayPal with Internet Explorer 11 and it worked! 
Don't know if something was changed in Firefox or if PayPal has just
added itself to an ever increasing number of web sites that just don't
work correctly with Firefox. These sites are usually ones dealing with
money--either sending, donating, or buying something online. Also I've
noticed that none of the Twitter clients like TW Blue or Chicken Nugget
can be authorized with Twitter unless I set my default browser to IE. 
So for now, I'll just use IE when doing anything with PayPal and hope it
keeps working as it should.


Roger





Re: Problems with browse mode

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi John,

Is this on one particular page / document / program / browser, or everywhere?  And using NVDA 2016.2.1 or one of the snapshot builds?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 3:12 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:
I am using Braille. When I switch to browse mode with nvda+space I can
only see one line  of the document. If I tether Braille to the review
cursor I get Top and Bottom when I press the numpad 7 and 9 keys. What
am I
doing wrong?

thanks,
John

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Re: Proposal for a new braille feature

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jordy, everyone.

This is a good suggestion, and I've created an issue to officially request it / track its implementation on Github: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6171

Jordy particularly, if you are on GitHub, if you comment on that issue, you will be notified of progress of the feature.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:

Hi I just did some research on this and I found out that alt + F7 goes to the next misspelled word in Microsoft Office applications.  so if your cursor is blinking to show you which letter you are on with your Braille display than the first letter of the misspelled word should half the blinking cursor.  please let us know if this works for you at least as a temporary workaround. if it's actually effective then the developers may not want to implement the feature the same as it would have been in Jaws or supernova

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On July 12, 2016 4:16:20 PM "Webmaster Deweer" <webmaster_deweer@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to propose a new feature for the braille output in NVDA.

In many other screenreaders, you can view miss spelled words (and bad grammar) in braille with a line of dots 7 and 8, well or not blinking. By example: in Jaws I can activate a feature that helps in MS Office to show spelling and grammar mistakes with a constant line of dots seven and eight. In Supernova I can do the same, but there the line blinks.

Is it possible to add a feature as described above in NVDA 2016.3 or in a newer version?

I cannot program in Python 2.7, or not good enough in Python 3.5, so I can’t help, but I will help if I can!

Hope someone’ll add this proposal to GitHub!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Jordy Deweer.




--
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Training Material Developer

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: where to learn programing

Quentin Christensen
 

The Cisco Academy for the Vision impaired do online courses.  Not sure if they have anything on programming going at the moment but they're here:  http://www.ciscovision.org/

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Adrián Mena <adrianm7m@...> wrote:
Hello guys, I would like to hear your recommendations about sites or
places where to learn programming or anything related to web sites or
computers on internet.
They can be paid or free.
Thank you.






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Ph +61 7 3149 3306 
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: where to learn programing

Ryan Mann <rmann0581@...>
 

If you decide to learn PHP, you can learn the basics from W3 Schools.
Then you can use the manual at php.net for reference. If you want to
do web programming, PHP is a good language to learn.

On 7/12/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
For web-development, although some people don't like it, I still recommend,

and return to it for reference material often enough, w3schools.com:
http://www.w3schools.com/

They have nice, step-by-step tutorials on various aspects of web content,
programming, database manipulation/integration, etc. etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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From: "Adrián Mena" <adrianm7m@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 4:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] where to learn programing


Hello guys, I would like to hear your recommendations about sites or
places where to learn programming or anything related to web sites or
computers on internet.
They can be paid or free.
Thank you.







PayPal seems to be browser related

Roger Stewart
 

I just tried using PayPal with Internet Explorer 11 and it worked! Don't know if something was changed in Firefox or if PayPal has just added itself to an ever increasing number of web sites that just don't work correctly with Firefox. These sites are usually ones dealing with money--either sending, donating, or buying something online. Also I've noticed that none of the Twitter clients like TW Blue or Chicken Nugget can be authorized with Twitter unless I set my default browser to IE. So for now, I'll just use IE when doing anything with PayPal and hope it keeps working as it should.


Roger


Re: Proposal for a new braille feature

Erik Burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hi I just did some research on this and I found out that alt + F7 goes to the next misspelled word in Microsoft Office applications.  so if your cursor is blinking to show you which letter you are on with your Braille display than the first letter of the misspelled word should half the blinking cursor.  please let us know if this works for you at least as a temporary workaround. if it's actually effective then the developers may not want to implement the feature the same as it would have been in Jaws or supernova

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On July 12, 2016 4:16:20 PM "Webmaster Deweer" <webmaster_deweer@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to propose a new feature for the braille output in NVDA.

In many other screenreaders, you can view miss spelled words (and bad grammar) in braille with a line of dots 7 and 8, well or not blinking. By example: in Jaws I can activate a feature that helps in MS Office to show spelling and grammar mistakes with a constant line of dots seven and eight. In Supernova I can do the same, but there the line blinks.

Is it possible to add a feature as described above in NVDA 2016.3 or in a newer version?

I cannot program in Python 2.7, or not good enough in Python 3.5, so I can’t help, but I will help if I can!

Hope someone’ll add this proposal to GitHub!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Jordy Deweer.


Re: The Paypal form..

Roger Stewart
 

Nope, has nothing to do with my card. I just got a new one last February and immediately activated it. Further, I've sent payments to this person several other times with the new card, although I use from my bank balance when doing this, and everything has gone smoothly until just a couple days ago. Nothing has changed on this end--it was a sudden change on PayPal's site. I emailed them, but just got back an auto robot reply based on the subject of my message--no person ever read it and the suggestions given in the reply message have nothing to do with my real problem so I don't know where to go from here.

Roger

On 7/12/2016 4:14 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Maybe and its far from my thoughts to suggest you might have let it laps, but perhaps the card you specified is no longer valid, but it should then suggest you set up a payment method instead. I just cannot see where the problem is as it seems to be well protected against silly entries and normally suggests a course of action to you if it goes wrong
It might be something really daft like the currency is not allowed to be transferred in that country or something. Here in the UK its a bit hard to judge as everything defaults and it even gives you the exchange rate.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The Paypal form..


I'd very much appreciate this. I just tried to send money to my friend
again this morning and I get the same problem. Everything seems normal
until after I've filled in the amount I want to send and type in a brief
message. Next thing I tab to is a link saying please choose a payment
method. It used to bring up a screen with the choices of my bank account
or my Visa card. Now all that happens when I choose this link is Firefox
makes a familiar click and I'm right back with the amount reset to zero
and my message to my friend deleted out. I just tried this several
times this morning, and the behavior is totally circular--that is it's
just stuck in an endless loop and I never get to chose a payment method
or get to the page where it just says send money now. I did send a
message similar to this to PayPal and will see what they may have to say
about it. Something has obviously changed on their page setup and nvda
isn't catching it for me.

Thanks.

Roger







On 7/11/2016 12:16 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hmmm, I could probably get you a tutorial sometime this week. I have
a support call this afternoon and my windows virtual machine is being
a huge brat lately. If no one gets to it before I do though, I'll put
something up.

If NVDA doesn't have a spot for hosting such things I can do it from
my new site.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Visit the out of work bum for your chance to win one of 10 KNFB Reader
or Nearby Explorer for IOS or android!
http://www.theoutofworkbum.work
Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for
persons with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
http://www.inclusiveandroid.com

On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com
<mailto:paganus2@gmail.com>> wrote:

If there were any errors, nvda didn't report any. There may be
something but if the screen reader can't see it then neither can I.
I am using the latest stable nvda--2016.2.1

Roger









On 7/11/2016 9:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Roger, It sounds as if you have the ideal setup for what you want
to do. Well that's the good news. The bad news is it makes it
harder for us to diagnose. I think we've exhausted any
compatibility issues although if for some reason you're not running
the latest NVDA, you might want to hit the update button.

Then we have to get into making sure you have a valid payment method
on file, and looking at other things behind the scenes.

When something goes wrong, paypal has gotten decent at letting you
know. Near the top of the page there is usually a signpost that
tells you if there are errors. If you see one of those it would be
helpful if you sent us the text of the error.

Thanks,

Erik Burggraaf
Visit the out of work bum for your chance to win one of 10 KNFB
Reader or Nearby Explorer for IOS or android!
http://www.theoutofworkbum.work <http://www.theoutofworkbum.work/>
Also check out my website for inclusion to the android platform for
persons with sensery, physical or cognitive disabilities:
http://www.inclusiveandroid.com <http://www.inclusiveandroid.com/>

On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com
<mailto:paganus2@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm using Firefox and it is set as my default browser.

Roger









On 7/11/2016 7:50 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
I don't remember Roger telling us what browser he's using but I
feel I have to agree with Brian here this seems like a browser
issue to me I was able to do the donation successfully using
Google Chrome and voice over on the Mac and yes the boxes did come
up as invalid until I finish typing in them. It would definitely
be worth your while trying Firefox if you haven't already if you
have tried Firefox and the same thing happens please let us know I
think switching browsers is a lot more convenient than having
several screen reader is on a machine or soliciting cited
assistance useful as that can be sometimes

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On July 11, 2016 6:39:12 AM "Brian's Mail list account"
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I can say that using Firefox 46
The form works as it always did.
I just donated 30 aus and OK the invalid input did come up as
typing into
the boxes, but I suspect this is an artifact that until you
finish it is
indeed wrong.
As usual had several goes at remembering the caps and lower case
in the
password, and it eventually accepted it and sent me through when
I clicked
the button or link for doing the donation.
My feeling here is that this is a browser issue if you cannot get
it to
work, always try another browser. I did mention that the IE
current updat is
a bit broken as far as some accessibility is concerned, but its
very very
spcific it seems as most of the time its fine.
Brian

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Proposal for a new braille feature

jordy deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
 

Hi all,

I would like to propose a new feature for the braille output in NVDA.

In many other screenreaders, you can view miss spelled words (and bad grammar) in braille with a line of dots 7 and 8, well or not blinking. By example: in Jaws I can activate a feature that helps in MS Office to show spelling and grammar mistakes with a constant line of dots seven and eight. In Supernova I can do the same, but there the line blinks.

Is it possible to add a feature as described above in NVDA 2016.3 or in a newer version?

I cannot program in Python 2.7, or not good enough in Python 3.5, so I can’t help, but I will help if I can!

Hope someone’ll add this proposal to GitHub!

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Jordy Deweer.


Problems with browse mode

John J. Boyer
 

I am using Braille. When I switch to browse mode with nvda+space I can
only see one line of the document. If I tether Braille to the review
cursor I get Top and Bottom when I press the numpad 7 and 9 keys. What
am I
doing wrong?

thanks,
John

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Re: where to learn programing

Jacob Kruger
 

For web-development, although some people don't like it, I still recommend, and return to it for reference material often enough, w3schools.com:
http://www.w3schools.com/

They have nice, step-by-step tutorials on various aspects of web content, programming, database manipulation/integration, etc. etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

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Hello guys, I would like to hear your recommendations about sites or
places where to learn programming or anything related to web sites or
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They can be paid or free.
Thank you.



Re: where to learn programing

Sheri Byrne-Haber
 

Apple is doing a tutorial for swift? A blind engineer participated in its development. Not an endorsement (I haven't tried it) but it might be useful?

https://developer.apple.com/swift/

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where to learn programing

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places where to learn programming or anything related to web sites or
computers on internet.
They can be paid or free.
Thank you.


Re: NVDA as a toolbox?

Laurie Mehta
 

"tvalusek@seznam.cz" wrote, in part:

"...Remember, I use my eyes, not my ears to routinely navigate apps, but I'd like to make my life more comfortable ..."

Feedback...
Several practical methods for disabling NVDA's speech features have been offered for your convenience on this list already.
NVDA, is in fact, NON Visual Desktop Access, and it is well-designed for its intended purpose.
Hopefully, developer time and resources will not be pressed upon to make changes that may undermine the currently smooth performance of NVDA for its intended use.
--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 7/12/16, tvalusek@seznam.cz <tvalusek@seznam.cz> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA as a toolbox?
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016, 6:59 AM

Hello,
One reason why no screenreader is
running on my computer is it gets in my way when I'm
using it. I use my machine visually, but I'd just like
from time to time have the longer contents of a dialog box
read aloud, ask which window is currently active if I get a
beep instead of expected action to be done after switching
from on desktop to another, and other powerful tricks a
screenreader can do. When I tried to have NVDA launched in
background, I got unexpected behavior when I switched to a
browser window, since the browsing mode took away single
letter commands I'm using to navigate feedly, Google+
and other such sites. That's why I want an option to
have a from mode as a default when coming to a browser
window. Remember, I use my eyes, not my ears to routinely
navigate apps, but I'd like to make my life more
comfortable by employing some screenreader
features.
What seems to be an
easiest way to achieve what I want? To create an AutoHotkey
or AutoIt script which would catch NVDA-specific combos and
switch speech and form mode as needed. But I'd still
appreciate appropriate options in NVDA.
Tomas Valusek


Re: NVDA as a toolbox?

Andre Fisher
 

While I understand what you are saying and asking, I can only say that
I highly doubt that this type of behaviour will ever be taken up by
any developer at this time. This is quite subjective, and boarders on
making the screen reader unusable. If you don't use NVDA for the basic
purpose it was used for, you can either try turning off speech
(NVDA+s) and turning it back on when you encounter text you want to
read. NVDA+B can be your friend for this. Sleep mode (NVDA+Shift+S or
Z) can also be your friend, but it is app specific. Additionally, in
the Browse mode settings dialog, uncheck all the automatic settings to
your liking. Uncheck all the document formatting settings if you want
as well. Download the No Beeps speech mode add-on as well, but what
you are looking for is too subjective.

On 7/12/16, tvalusek@seznam.cz <tvalusek@seznam.cz> wrote:
Hello,

One reason why no screenreader is running on my computer is it gets in my
way when I'm using it. I use my machine visually, but I'd just like from
time to time have the longer contents of a dialog box read aloud, ask which
window is currently active if I get a beep instead of expected action to be
done after switching from on desktop to another, and other powerful tricks a
screenreader can do. When I tried to have NVDA launched in background, I got
unexpected behavior when I switched to a browser window, since the browsing
mode took away single letter commands I'm using to navigate feedly, Google+
and other such sites. That's why I want an option to have a from mode as a
default when coming to a browser window. Remember, I use my eyes, not my
ears to routinely navigate apps, but I'd like to make my life more
comfortable by employing some screenreader features.

What seems to be an easiest way to achieve what I want? To create an
AutoHotkey or AutoIt script which would catch NVDA-specific combos and
switch speech and form mode as needed. But I'd still appreciate appropriate
options in NVDA.

Tomas Valusek


Re: NVDA as a toolbox?

tvalusek@...
 

Hello,


One reason why no screenreader is running on my computer is it gets in my way when I'm using it. I use my machine visually, but I'd just like from time to time have the longer contents of a dialog box read aloud, ask which window is currently active if I get a beep instead of expected action to be done after switching from on desktop to another, and other powerful tricks a screenreader can do. When I tried to have NVDA launched in background, I got unexpected behavior when I switched to a browser window, since the browsing mode took away single letter commands I'm using to navigate feedly, Google+ and other such sites. That's why I want an option to have a from mode as a default when coming to a browser window. Remember, I use my eyes, not my ears to routinely navigate apps, but I'd like to make my life more comfortable by employing some screenreader features.


What seems to be an easiest way to achieve what I want? To create an AutoHotkey or AutoIt script which would catch NVDA-specific combos and switch speech and form mode as needed. But I'd still appreciate appropriate options in NVDA.


Tomas Valusek