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twitter accessibility

Don H
 

Is twitter accessible using the latest version of NVDA on a Win 10 system?


how to check spelling of a suggested word in spellchecker if you don't have a numpad on the laptop

Dan Thompson
 

Hi All,

I can check the spelling of a suggested word when using spellchecker using NVDA  by tabbing to the list of suggestions and pressing Numpad 5 twice to have the word spelled.

But what can be done for a laptop that doesn’t have a Numpad to get the same information?  Thanks in advance.


Re: accessible e-book creation?

ely.r@...
 

Here is a link to an article that gives some basic things to consider when you are going to create an e-book. It is written specifically to address the issue using MS Word as a starting tool and what it can do for you and suggestions about further options.
Hope it helps.
Rick
https://www.pcworld.com/article/253618/how_to_use_microsoft_word_to_create_an_ebook.html

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

If you are writing a book, you require an EPub author tool. On windows I am not aware of any accessible products. It is important to keep your chapters in separate files to make the table of contents work effectively.


I would suggest looking at the DASY foundation site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel


Re: accessible e-book creation?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I guess you can also use pandoc. And latex to write the book. There are tons of stuff on google and manuals, well written ones so learn at your own pace.

Good luck n your book.

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For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
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Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

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On 15 Jul 2019, at 1:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm, well that may be the subject for the blind vms cast.

Now, I have just a little load of things to do next week, but if you guys are interested, either shove this to chat or email me off list and I will look at it.

I do have linux in vmware, but I guess you will want to have something we can view in the windows os first.

Where would I go to get a look at tools and have anyone actually tried any, it could be a good project.

Again, if you are interested, email me and maybe I can add this to some sort of support thing on the cast, thats the 3rd message on this topic, so there is interest, and now I have a platform to post it.




On 15/07/2019 6:58 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

If you are writing a book, you require an EPub author tool. On windows I am not aware of any accessible products. It is important to keep your chapters in separate files to make the table of contents work effectively.


I would suggest looking at the DASY foundation site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel









Re: accessible e-book creation?

Jonathan COHN
 

You should talk with George Kerscher from the Daisy Consortium. Daisy and EPub 3 are overlapping standards, and I am pretty sure that daisy.org has a list of applications for creating Daisy files. This is an area where I have some interest but no time research so I would definitely listen in on a discussion of creating digital books using the NVDA screen reader.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan
On 7/14/19, 9:16 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Daniel Wolak" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of danielwolak97@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub
books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to
import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this
isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible
options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel


Re: labeling the button objects in decTalk speak windows

Jonathan COHN
 

Is this something that the Magic cursor app from Joseph Lee would do?

 

  • Jonathan

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 4:06 PM
To: "nvda@groups.io" <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] labeling the button objects in decTalk speak windows

 

Hi,

In jaws I can turn on its accessibility driver, and then the jaws cursor shows me the graphics in the old windows95 decTalk speak window notepad-type applications and I can click the graphics for play, different voices, rate faster, rate slower, and so on. Only after turning on the legacy accessibility driver does this work. So my question is this, how can I easily, as a person who is not a programmer, *easily* label these buttons with NVDA? I turned on speak tooltips and routed the mouse but there are no tooltips, OCR does not help either. Can someone please make an addon so I can relabel and reclass objects as I come across them using object navigation, please?

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

 

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh wrote:
I face issues.
Have you no one you collaborate with?   Is there no one you can have take a look, literally, at what is supposed to be the final product?

There really are times, when speed is of the essence in particular, where there is no substitute for sight.  And from a business perspective it's a much more effective use of time (and money) to seek assistance from a collaborator in an instance like this.  Said assistant doesn't even have to understand the content, per se, but just look for things like the glaring run of # symbols if a numeric cell has become too small for its numeric value or similar.
 
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Re: How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

Yes I do use all these but my problem is when there is a huge form which needs to be edited and formatted, I face issues.

I mean there are certain cells which are smaller than the text they contain but since I am unable to view the text visually, I do not know if the text is fully visible to people with vision or not. So now I need some key command which detects such issues in the excel file and creates a list of corrective suggestions.

Example, there is a key combination, nvda key plus f but it reads cell formatting features of a particular cell which it very time consuming when the sheet huge.

Moreover, there have been instances where even by trying to auto fit the height of the cell, still the text is hidden and so on.

So the reasons of such issues is also not clear.

Hope my concerns are understood.


Thanks





On 15-Jul-19 5:16 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Could you say what keyboard based formatting you currently use? 

 

The key things are column widths, cell formatting/formulas/filling, cell merging, sheet naming, moving and copying but if you know all these already, there’s not much more I can say.

 

Cheers

Chris      

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
Sent: 15 July 2019 07:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

 

Hi friends,
-- I think this message has not grabbed attension of the mailing list users, so resending it again. Kindly help me in this.
Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


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From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Could you say what keyboard based formatting you currently use? 

 

The key things are column widths, cell formatting/formulas/filling, cell merging, sheet naming, moving and copying but if you know all these already, there’s not much more I can say.

 

Cheers

Chris      

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
Sent: 15 July 2019 07:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

 

Hi friends,
-- I think this message has not grabbed attension of the mailing list users, so resending it again. Kindly help me in this.
Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

For support, see the mailing list at http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit. To answer your question, you press the gestures indicated towards the bottom of the announcement.

 

This topic should be locked because the only form of support is given in the add-on’s mailing list to keep other lists clean.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

 

Dear friend, if I unable (DTK) mode, no matter which enter key extended or simple enter key I press, it is not working!

Please let me know what can I do?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

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From: Andy B.
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

 

Hi,

Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 is ready for download.

Release announcement: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/tag/2019.1.1

Direct download: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/download/2019.1.1/developerToolkit-2019.1.1.nvda-addon

Repository: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit

Mailing list: http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit

 

Developer toolkit (DTK) is an NVDA add-on that assists blind and visually impaired developers to independently create visually appealing user interfaces or web content. This is done by enabling DTK, navigating around the user interface or web content, then performing gestures to obtain information about the appearance, location, and size of the focused control. To enable or disable DTK, press alt+windows+k on your keyboard.

2019.1.1

• DTK will no longer attempt to load itself multiple times when announcing the version number.

• DTK will be disabled on install. Previously, the add-on would enable itself when installed.

• Messages presented to the user can now contain non-ascii characters.

• Pressing gestures such as a, b, c, f, h, l, r, s, t, v, and w no longer interupt NVDA speech when copying to the clipboard.

 

 

 

 


epub files

 

Hi.

searching things online shows this from daisy.

http://www.daisy.org/daisypedia/tools-creating-epub-3-files

and this top 10

https://publishdrive.com/ebook-writing-software/

Now as to what and how updated all this is is not known.

If you know how to code there are clearly several files about, however its up to the user.

One must try and see, and I have noted this down, and will try these, some of these  are cross platform, some like pandoc may need a frontend.


Re: accessible e-book creation?

 

Hmmm, well that may be the subject for the blind vms cast.

Now, I have just a little load of things to do next week, but if you guys are interested, either shove this to chat or email me off list and I will look at it.

I do have linux in vmware, but I guess you will want to have something we can view in the windows os first.

Where would I go to get a look at tools and have anyone actually tried any, it could be a good project.

Again, if you are interested, email me and maybe I can add this to some sort of support thing on the cast, thats the 3rd message on this topic, so there is interest, and now I have a platform to post it.

On 15/07/2019 6:58 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
If you are writing a book, you require an EPub author tool. On windows I am not aware of any accessible products. It is important to keep your chapters in separate files to make the table of contents work effectively.


I would suggest looking at the DASY foundation site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel








Re: new keyboard issue

 

One word of warning, if your laptop is older by 2-4 years there is a possability that there may be only older drivers for some things.

For my old cloud system, a 7th generation, while yes there are updates, the drivers have not been updated in months.

I have had to resort to windows update drivers and generic drivers to get things to work right.

The bios has only just got updated and another few programs but they could have been universal drivers.

On my system while there are updates, they are never the latest and lag behind.

So last month, ages after windows 1903 I got updates to drivers saying they were put out at the end of the month and I know they weren't, other drivers followed backdated but not on time.

Finally the bios showed up saying it had support for 1903 which could mean my laptop could have not started at all because 1903 was not supported.

Depending on how old your unit is and such you may be able to go cold terkey and just reformat and use generics.

I'd only do this if you had up to a 4th generation, not sure when they started using intergrated sound and display hardware but if you have a single headphone jack for both microphone and headphone chances are you are running one of the newer boards.

However if you have 2 plugs like it used to be, and especially if you have a manual volume control, you may be able to get away with a full reformat and running on generics.

Be warned that you will void all laptop support and other repair terms of your licence but if its that old well.

On my workstation a 4th generation intel, While I update the sound regularly the display has not been updated since 2018, and the bios has not been updated since 2016, drivers are slated for win7-xp, and I have just reformat and run on some manufacturer drivers and generics.

But it may not apply to you.

You may or may not get away with installing the driver that was the latest, and crossing your fingers and toes.

You could always try to update the drivers manually from device manager and use a generic, but be warned if you use the windows update drivers your system could get worse as those drivers are never always the best and never updated all the time.

You could also get the wrong drivers.



On 15/07/2019 5:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Look up the laptop manufacturer's website, they should include drivers for everything on that model (so look up the laptop model)

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:17 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Quentin,
The first thing I'd do is to try to work out which model you have, and look for an updated driver from the manufacturer.
As it is a laptop keyboard, could you please tell me how can I find what's the model? Would it be on the Devices Manager?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Making NVDA reconsider focus

Perry Simm
 

Hi Quentin!

On Monday, July 15, 2019 5:27 AM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Is it one browser particularly or all browsers which do this?  Certainly it's not desired behaviour, but I can't replicate it myself just now.
It isn't even restricted to browsers. Sometimes it is Outlook, sometimes Visual Studio, sometimes Word.

Two things I can think to try though:
- Are you using any add-ons which might steal focus or interrupt what is happening when you start your Browser?  Dropbox (from memory) did this at one point in Word, and I've heard of several anti-virus programs which do similar things.
No. In fact, focus is not stolen. Focus is where it should be at all times, only NVDA does not always track it.

- Otherwise, you could try running the COM registration fixing tool from NVDA's Tools menu.  This is designed to ensure that all needed DLL files are registered correctly.  Generally programs do this when they are installed, however sometimes installing or uninstalling programs can inadvertently deregister DLLs.
If some DLL were not correctly registered, these problems would occur every time I followed a certain script, not just intermittently.

It is a long-standing bug in NVDA, reported by some, reproduced by others, rehashed, reviewed, reconsidered, but, for months and months, never resolved. And now I should refrain from using so many rephrasings beginning with re but return to my regular revenue with relentless resolve.
Regards Perry


file reader 3.0

abdul muhamin
 

Hi everyone. I came here after a long time. I’ve got an addon which can do a great job. It enables us to read text files without being seen. Even we can listen an mp3 files with it. Most of the feature works. But some are not. May be because of the old version. Please let me know about this addon. And add it into the official addons page.

Addon Description

name = fileReader

summary = "fileReader"

description = """This addon lets you read documents and listen to mp3 files without showing them on-screen."""

author = "Oriol Gomez <ogomez.s92@...>"

url = http://twitter.com/oriol_gomez92

version = 3.0

Download

File reader 3.0

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Editing a Cell in Microsoft Excel

Ed Marquette
 

Quentin:

To double-check the version, I first checked the “Wat’s new” area under “Help” in the NVDA menu.  It displayed a date of January 1, 2019 and specified Version 19.1
I then executed the “Check for Updates” option, again from the NVDA menu.  I was informed that no updates were available.
Nevertheless, the suggested fix worked perfectly.  I haven’t tried it with JAWS, but I’ll bet the problem is fixed there too.
Very strange.



On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Which version of NVDA are you using?  There was an issue in Office 365 and 2016 (possibly not Office 2013, I can't recall) where in-cell editing wasn't read.  This was a bug in Office but we did implement a workaround in NVDA 2019.1.

If using an older version of NVDA, then yes, the earlier suggestion of going into Excel's options and disabled in-cell editing should work.  What that option does is mostly visual - it changes whether the caret appears in the cell itself to edit the contents, or in the formula bar.  From a useability point of view they should work the same.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 12:28 AM Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...> wrote:
Thank you.  I will know now to check the message archives.  The suggested solution, though the most counterintuitive I have ever experienced, worked like a charm.
Who would have thought that disabling the editing of cells would, in fact, enable the editing of cells with a screen reader.  As I noted in my first message, the problem affected JAWS and NVDA in exactly the same way .
I was fearing that the problem stemmed from our overly-paranoid security conscious IT department. We have so many things locked down that just working is sometimes hard.
Again, however, thank you.  I am sending this message, not just to say thank you (those tend to clutter list serves, but to let others know that the prescribed fix, which actually seems silly and counterintuitive, really works.
I am surprised it is not more widely published.
 


On Jul 13, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

See:  
nvda not reading letters in excel cell when using f2 to edit the cell contents
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The color of truth is grey.

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Re: accessible e-book creation?

Sean Murphy
 

If you are writing a book, you require an EPub author tool. On windows I am not aware of any accessible products. It is important to keep your chapters in separate files to make the table of contents work effectively.


I would suggest looking at the DASY foundation site.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel


Re: How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

Hi friends,
-- I think this message has not grabbed attension of the mailing list users, so resending it again. Kindly help me in this.
Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

Inam Uddin
 

Dear friend, if I unable (DTK) mode, no matter which enter key extended or simple enter key I press, it is not working!

Please let me know what can I do?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.

At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button.

You can contact me via gmail:

inamuddin09@...

outlook:

inam092@...

yahoo:

inamuddin2010@...

AOL:

charlsdarwin1969@...

Join me with my Skype ID:

charlsdarwin1

See me on facebook:

www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter:

www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Mobile phone:

+92-334-3348409

Google voice:

+1-631-5335683

 

 

From: Andy B.
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

 

Hi,

Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 is ready for download.

Release announcement: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/tag/2019.1.1

Direct download: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/download/2019.1.1/developerToolkit-2019.1.1.nvda-addon

Repository: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit

Mailing list: http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit

 

Developer toolkit (DTK) is an NVDA add-on that assists blind and visually impaired developers to independently create visually appealing user interfaces or web content. This is done by enabling DTK, navigating around the user interface or web content, then performing gestures to obtain information about the appearance, location, and size of the focused control. To enable or disable DTK, press alt+windows+k on your keyboard.

2019.1.1

• DTK will no longer attempt to load itself multiple times when announcing the version number.

• DTK will be disabled on install. Previously, the add-on would enable itself when installed.

• Messages presented to the user can now contain non-ascii characters.

• Pressing gestures such as a, b, c, f, h, l, r, s, t, v, and w no longer interupt NVDA speech when copying to the clipboard.

 

 

 

 


Re: new keyboard issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Look up the laptop manufacturer's website, they should include drivers for everything on that model (so look up the laptop model)


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:17 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Quentin,
The first thing I'd do is to try to work out which model you have, and look for an updated driver from the manufacturer.
As it is a laptop keyboard, could you please tell me how can I find what's the model? Would it be on the Devices Manager?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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