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Re: NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

For support, see the mailing list at http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit. To answer your question, you press the gestures indicated towards the bottom of the announcement.

 

This topic should be locked because the only form of support is given in the add-on’s mailing list to keep other lists clean.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

 

Dear friend, if I unable (DTK) mode, no matter which enter key extended or simple enter key I press, it is not working!

Please let me know what can I do?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.

At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button.

You can contact me via gmail:

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outlook:

inam092@...

yahoo:

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AOL:

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Join me with my Skype ID:

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See me on facebook:

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Follow me on my twitter:

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From: Andy B.
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

 

Hi,

Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 is ready for download.

Release announcement: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/tag/2019.1.1

Direct download: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/download/2019.1.1/developerToolkit-2019.1.1.nvda-addon

Repository: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit

Mailing list: http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit

 

Developer toolkit (DTK) is an NVDA add-on that assists blind and visually impaired developers to independently create visually appealing user interfaces or web content. This is done by enabling DTK, navigating around the user interface or web content, then performing gestures to obtain information about the appearance, location, and size of the focused control. To enable or disable DTK, press alt+windows+k on your keyboard.

2019.1.1

• DTK will no longer attempt to load itself multiple times when announcing the version number.

• DTK will be disabled on install. Previously, the add-on would enable itself when installed.

• Messages presented to the user can now contain non-ascii characters.

• Pressing gestures such as a, b, c, f, h, l, r, s, t, v, and w no longer interupt NVDA speech when copying to the clipboard.

 

 

 

 


epub files

 

Hi.

searching things online shows this from daisy.

http://www.daisy.org/daisypedia/tools-creating-epub-3-files

and this top 10

https://publishdrive.com/ebook-writing-software/

Now as to what and how updated all this is is not known.

If you know how to code there are clearly several files about, however its up to the user.

One must try and see, and I have noted this down, and will try these, some of these  are cross platform, some like pandoc may need a frontend.


Re: accessible e-book creation?

 

Hmmm, well that may be the subject for the blind vms cast.

Now, I have just a little load of things to do next week, but if you guys are interested, either shove this to chat or email me off list and I will look at it.

I do have linux in vmware, but I guess you will want to have something we can view in the windows os first.

Where would I go to get a look at tools and have anyone actually tried any, it could be a good project.

Again, if you are interested, email me and maybe I can add this to some sort of support thing on the cast, thats the 3rd message on this topic, so there is interest, and now I have a platform to post it.

On 15/07/2019 6:58 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
If you are writing a book, you require an EPub author tool. On windows I am not aware of any accessible products. It is important to keep your chapters in separate files to make the table of contents work effectively.


I would suggest looking at the DASY foundation site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel








Re: new keyboard issue

 

One word of warning, if your laptop is older by 2-4 years there is a possability that there may be only older drivers for some things.

For my old cloud system, a 7th generation, while yes there are updates, the drivers have not been updated in months.

I have had to resort to windows update drivers and generic drivers to get things to work right.

The bios has only just got updated and another few programs but they could have been universal drivers.

On my system while there are updates, they are never the latest and lag behind.

So last month, ages after windows 1903 I got updates to drivers saying they were put out at the end of the month and I know they weren't, other drivers followed backdated but not on time.

Finally the bios showed up saying it had support for 1903 which could mean my laptop could have not started at all because 1903 was not supported.

Depending on how old your unit is and such you may be able to go cold terkey and just reformat and use generics.

I'd only do this if you had up to a 4th generation, not sure when they started using intergrated sound and display hardware but if you have a single headphone jack for both microphone and headphone chances are you are running one of the newer boards.

However if you have 2 plugs like it used to be, and especially if you have a manual volume control, you may be able to get away with a full reformat and running on generics.

Be warned that you will void all laptop support and other repair terms of your licence but if its that old well.

On my workstation a 4th generation intel, While I update the sound regularly the display has not been updated since 2018, and the bios has not been updated since 2016, drivers are slated for win7-xp, and I have just reformat and run on some manufacturer drivers and generics.

But it may not apply to you.

You may or may not get away with installing the driver that was the latest, and crossing your fingers and toes.

You could always try to update the drivers manually from device manager and use a generic, but be warned if you use the windows update drivers your system could get worse as those drivers are never always the best and never updated all the time.

You could also get the wrong drivers.



On 15/07/2019 5:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Look up the laptop manufacturer's website, they should include drivers for everything on that model (so look up the laptop model)

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:17 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Quentin,
The first thing I'd do is to try to work out which model you have, and look for an updated driver from the manufacturer.
As it is a laptop keyboard, could you please tell me how can I find what's the model? Would it be on the Devices Manager?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Making NVDA reconsider focus

Perry Simm
 

Hi Quentin!

On Monday, July 15, 2019 5:27 AM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Is it one browser particularly or all browsers which do this?  Certainly it's not desired behaviour, but I can't replicate it myself just now.
It isn't even restricted to browsers. Sometimes it is Outlook, sometimes Visual Studio, sometimes Word.

Two things I can think to try though:
- Are you using any add-ons which might steal focus or interrupt what is happening when you start your Browser?  Dropbox (from memory) did this at one point in Word, and I've heard of several anti-virus programs which do similar things.
No. In fact, focus is not stolen. Focus is where it should be at all times, only NVDA does not always track it.

- Otherwise, you could try running the COM registration fixing tool from NVDA's Tools menu.  This is designed to ensure that all needed DLL files are registered correctly.  Generally programs do this when they are installed, however sometimes installing or uninstalling programs can inadvertently deregister DLLs.
If some DLL were not correctly registered, these problems would occur every time I followed a certain script, not just intermittently.

It is a long-standing bug in NVDA, reported by some, reproduced by others, rehashed, reviewed, reconsidered, but, for months and months, never resolved. And now I should refrain from using so many rephrasings beginning with re but return to my regular revenue with relentless resolve.
Regards Perry


file reader 3.0

abdul muhamin
 

Hi everyone. I came here after a long time. I’ve got an addon which can do a great job. It enables us to read text files without being seen. Even we can listen an mp3 files with it. Most of the feature works. But some are not. May be because of the old version. Please let me know about this addon. And add it into the official addons page.

Addon Description

name = fileReader

summary = "fileReader"

description = """This addon lets you read documents and listen to mp3 files without showing them on-screen."""

author = "Oriol Gomez <ogomez.s92@...>"

url = http://twitter.com/oriol_gomez92

version = 3.0

Download

File reader 3.0

 

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Re: Editing a Cell in Microsoft Excel

Ed Marquette
 

Quentin:

To double-check the version, I first checked the “Wat’s new” area under “Help” in the NVDA menu.  It displayed a date of January 1, 2019 and specified Version 19.1
I then executed the “Check for Updates” option, again from the NVDA menu.  I was informed that no updates were available.
Nevertheless, the suggested fix worked perfectly.  I haven’t tried it with JAWS, but I’ll bet the problem is fixed there too.
Very strange.



On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Which version of NVDA are you using?  There was an issue in Office 365 and 2016 (possibly not Office 2013, I can't recall) where in-cell editing wasn't read.  This was a bug in Office but we did implement a workaround in NVDA 2019.1.

If using an older version of NVDA, then yes, the earlier suggestion of going into Excel's options and disabled in-cell editing should work.  What that option does is mostly visual - it changes whether the caret appears in the cell itself to edit the contents, or in the formula bar.  From a useability point of view they should work the same.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 12:28 AM Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...> wrote:
Thank you.  I will know now to check the message archives.  The suggested solution, though the most counterintuitive I have ever experienced, worked like a charm.
Who would have thought that disabling the editing of cells would, in fact, enable the editing of cells with a screen reader.  As I noted in my first message, the problem affected JAWS and NVDA in exactly the same way .
I was fearing that the problem stemmed from our overly-paranoid security conscious IT department. We have so many things locked down that just working is sometimes hard.
Again, however, thank you.  I am sending this message, not just to say thank you (those tend to clutter list serves, but to let others know that the prescribed fix, which actually seems silly and counterintuitive, really works.
I am surprised it is not more widely published.
 


On Jul 13, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

See:  
nvda not reading letters in excel cell when using f2 to edit the cell contents
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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!


Re: accessible e-book creation?

Sean Murphy
 

If you are writing a book, you require an EPub author tool. On windows I am not aware of any accessible products. It is important to keep your chapters in separate files to make the table of contents work effectively.


I would suggest looking at the DASY foundation site.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible e-book creation?

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding a program that will allow me to create epub books that's accessible with nvda. Ideally, I would like to be able to import and use a collection of html files as chapters, although this isn't 100% required. Would appreciate any pointers on any accessible options for this that folks have found.

Thanks in advance,


Daniel


Re: How to make sure that formatting is perfect in Excel

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

Hi friends,
-- I think this message has not grabbed attension of the mailing list users, so resending it again. Kindly help me in this.
Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

Inam Uddin
 

Dear friend, if I unable (DTK) mode, no matter which enter key extended or simple enter key I press, it is not working!

Please let me know what can I do?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.

At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button.

You can contact me via gmail:

inamuddin09@...

outlook:

inam092@...

yahoo:

inamuddin2010@...

AOL:

charlsdarwin1969@...

Join me with my Skype ID:

charlsdarwin1

See me on facebook:

www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter:

www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Mobile phone:

+92-334-3348409

Google voice:

+1-631-5335683

 

 

From: Andy B.
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-on: Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 now available.

 

Hi,

Developer toolkit 2019.1.1 is ready for download.

Release announcement: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/tag/2019.1.1

Direct download: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/download/2019.1.1/developerToolkit-2019.1.1.nvda-addon

Repository: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit

Mailing list: http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit

 

Developer toolkit (DTK) is an NVDA add-on that assists blind and visually impaired developers to independently create visually appealing user interfaces or web content. This is done by enabling DTK, navigating around the user interface or web content, then performing gestures to obtain information about the appearance, location, and size of the focused control. To enable or disable DTK, press alt+windows+k on your keyboard.

2019.1.1

• DTK will no longer attempt to load itself multiple times when announcing the version number.

• DTK will be disabled on install. Previously, the add-on would enable itself when installed.

• Messages presented to the user can now contain non-ascii characters.

• Pressing gestures such as a, b, c, f, h, l, r, s, t, v, and w no longer interupt NVDA speech when copying to the clipboard.

 

 

 

 


Re: new keyboard issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Look up the laptop manufacturer's website, they should include drivers for everything on that model (so look up the laptop model)


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:17 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Quentin,
The first thing I'd do is to try to work out which model you have, and look for an updated driver from the manufacturer.
As it is a laptop keyboard, could you please tell me how can I find what's the model? Would it be on the Devices Manager?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!


Re: new keyboard issue

 

Quentin,
The first thing I'd do is to try to work out which model you have, and look for an updated driver from the manufacturer.
As it is a laptop keyboard, could you please tell me how can I find what's the model? Would it be on the Devices Manager?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Problem about NVDA control and arrow keys

 

Quentin,
Re your issue, the only thing I can think of is your right arrow perhaps serving a dual function and you need to press Fn or something to make it work normally? Can you press right arrow otherwise? Trying it myself here, I can move in both directions around the synth setting ring in both desktop and laptop keyboard layouts.
Well it's technically the case, but for doing the other function I need to press FN with the arrow. If I only press right arrow it's the default behavior :)

If you turn on input help (NVDA+1) and then press the keystroke, what does NVDA report?
Nothing at all, and this was how I found it out. At first I thought it was my NVDA configured incorrectly but after checking the gestures and testing with input help turned on, it turned out that it's not the case.

I guess I'll just have to deal with it, anyway :(

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Problem about NVDA control and arrow keys

 

Luke,
1. Change the order in which you press the modifiers. That has a slim chance of working.
Tested, not working :(

2. Use a different modifier key.
* If control is required, and the control key you normally use doesn't work, try the other one. Same with shift and alt.
Ok it definitely worked (after a good few acrobatic sessions).
Well, of course I won't be using it because sooner or later who knows in what it could result to my arms :) but this was a good (and fun) experiment.

3. If you can't modify your choice of modifiers to solve the problem, either because it's too uncomfortable or because it just doesn't work, you are left with remapping the command (and probably its related command, such as the one to go in the other direction) in gesture configuration, to a set of commands that actually work.
Honestly I'mnot feeling like doing it. Fortunately, it seems like it's only happening with this combo so oh well, I can live without it after all.

Thanks for your answer. It's indeed much appreciated! Now I know that if I ever need to do it, and if I really need, I have at least one way to achieve it :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Editing a Cell in Microsoft Excel

Quentin Christensen
 

Which version of NVDA are you using?  There was an issue in Office 365 and 2016 (possibly not Office 2013, I can't recall) where in-cell editing wasn't read.  This was a bug in Office but we did implement a workaround in NVDA 2019.1.

If using an older version of NVDA, then yes, the earlier suggestion of going into Excel's options and disabled in-cell editing should work.  What that option does is mostly visual - it changes whether the caret appears in the cell itself to edit the contents, or in the formula bar.  From a useability point of view they should work the same.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 12:28 AM Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...> wrote:
Thank you.  I will know now to check the message archives.  The suggested solution, though the most counterintuitive I have ever experienced, worked like a charm.
Who would have thought that disabling the editing of cells would, in fact, enable the editing of cells with a screen reader.  As I noted in my first message, the problem affected JAWS and NVDA in exactly the same way .
I was fearing that the problem stemmed from our overly-paranoid security conscious IT department. We have so many things locked down that just working is sometimes hard.
Again, however, thank you.  I am sending this message, not just to say thank you (those tend to clutter list serves, but to let others know that the prescribed fix, which actually seems silly and counterintuitive, really works.
I am surprised it is not more widely published.
 


On Jul 13, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

See:  
nvda not reading letters in excel cell when using f2 to edit the cell contents
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!


Re: Making NVDA reconsider focus

Quentin Christensen
 

Is it one browser particularly or all browsers which do this?  Certainly it's not desired behaviour, but I can't replicate it myself just now.

Two things I can think to try though:
- Are you using any add-ons which might steal focus or interrupt what is happening when you start your Browser?  Dropbox (from memory) did this at one point in Word, and I've heard of several anti-virus programs which do similar things.

- Otherwise, you could try running the COM registration fixing tool from NVDA's Tools menu.  This is designed to ensure that all needed DLL files are registered correctly.  Generally programs do this when they are installed, however sometimes installing or uninstalling programs can inadvertently deregister DLLs.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 5:14 PM Perry Simm via Groups.Io <perry.simm=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Luke!
On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 3:35 AM, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

> Perry, can you provide some examples of circumstances where you are having to
> alt-tab out and in of something to re-acquire focus?

Sure! The prime example is when I launch a program, such as a browser. A few seconds later, I know I'm in the address bar, and a sighted person can confirm this to me, but there's no speech indicating this. Focus is really in the address bar, and I can type into it. It's just that NVDA hasn't tracked it. Alt+tabbing out then back in resolves it for the moment.

> As an aside, glad to see another Proton Mail user!

I'm loving it! As a visitor to many worlds, I prefer to be intractable and untrackable.
Cheers Perry





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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!


Re: new keyboard issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Interesting, I've seen keyboards which can only accept two keys or three keys at once, but generally you can press any two (or three) keys on the keyboard in that case - odd that it limits some of the keys.

As it's an issue with either the hardware or driver for the keyboard, there isn't much that can be done by anyone else. The first thing I'd do is to try to work out which model you have, and look for an updated driver from the manufacturer.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:00 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Tyler,
It's something you just have to deal with. That keyboard can't handle that particular combination of keys pressed at the same time.
As apparently I also have this problem, I'd like to know, isn't there  any workaround for cases like ours?
Plus, why that happens? I mean, apparently we don't have a clue about which combo the keyboard will or not be capable of handling until we put it to work. Isn't it bad practice from the manufacturer's side?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Problem about NVDA control and arrow keys

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Marcio,

NVDA+control+left and right is correct to move through the synth settings ring if NVDA is set to desktop keyboard layout.  If set to laptop keyboard layout, then your command of NVDA+control+shift+arrows is correct.

Re your issue, the only thing I can think of is your right arrow perhaps serving a dual function and you need to press Fn or something to make it work normally?  Can you press right arrow otherwise?  Trying it myself here, I can move in both directions around the synth setting ring in both desktop and laptop keyboard layouts.

If you turn on input help (NVDA+1) and then press the keystroke, what does NVDA report? (NVDA+1 again to turn input help off).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:26 AM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Surendra,
when I press nvd a key + control + right and left arrow I can't able to configure rate volume options
Actually, the command is Control+Shift+NVDA+Right/Left arrows to move through the options and Control+Shit+NVDA+Up/Down arrows to configure the option you've selected.

Hope this helps :)

On a related note, I just discovered something curious.
Here, Control+Shift+NVDA+Left arrow works like a charm. However, the same isn't true for the command using the right arrow. In fact, the problem seems to be with the combo Control+Insert+Right arrow.
Can anyone tell me why that is happening? Would my keyboard not be capable of processing this combo at once?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Problem about NVDA control and arrow keys

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Surendra,

Assuming you are using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout, then NVDA+control+left and right arrows are correct for what you are trying to do.  (If using NVDA in laptop layout, then Marcio's post is correct and the keystroke is NVDA+control+shift+arrows)  Firstly, check that num lock is "off" if you are using the numpad insert as your NVDA modifier key.  Are you using any add-ons?  If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled (press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" and press enter) does the issue still occur?

If so, if you could send a copy of your log to info@..., I can have a look.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:41 PM Surendra JUJJAVARAPU <surendrajujjavarapu9@...> wrote:

Hi friends this is Surendra I have a small problem with n v d a ae version 19.1.1 when I press nvd a key + control + right and left arrow I can't able to configure rate volume options but the n v d a is is saying vote by old Eid can anyone tell me what is the problem and suggest MI to rectify the problem



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Re: the newest braille display?

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

The last I heard, it would only be available posibly for preorder in the UK. You could sign up to potentially have yours shipped by the 31st of October, 2019. They are apparently only making 40 of them. Other people could have a "similar opportunity  some time later." So probably nothing to get excited about. Here is the link.

https://www.techno-vision.co.uk/news/