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Re: labeling the button objects in decTalk speak windows
Josh Kennedy
magic cursor addon? or do you mean golden cursor addon? maybe, I'm not sure, I'll have to download it and play around with it and see if it will let me label objects.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Josh Kennedy
on my machine, alt control backslash starts NVDA, and alt control right-bracket starts jaws. That is because I don't want the default NVDA shortcut to conflict with some keyboard shortcuts inside google docs, sheets, and slides in chrome and firefox.
Josh
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Luke Davis
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
Both Jaws and NVDA do have command for calling via the run dialog so we just remember its command, and type exactly. Other member has told thisTo possibly add clarity, or to make it more muddy depending on your prospective: The -r option to nvda actually means "replace", not "restart". It replaces any running NVDA version with the one you just ran with -r. If no NVDA version is running, it doesn't have anything to replace, so just starts normally. Therefore it is always possible, and perhaps even preferred, to start NVDA with the -r flag. Which is why the default shortcut uses it. It will always start NVDA, whether or not there is a version already running. Hopefully the necessity to use -r will go away. in some future version, if enough people prefer that (https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8320). Luke
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Re: how to check spelling of a suggested word in spellchecker if you don't have a numpad on the laptop
Dan Thompson
Very big thank you Quentin! God bless.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Hi Dan,
Numpad 5 is the desktop keyboard layout keystroke for "report current word in review". If you have a laptop which does not have a dedicated numberpad, you might consider setting NVDA to use laptop keyboard layout from NVDA's keyboard settings (press NVDA+control+k to open the keyboard settings directly). If you are using laptop keyboard layout, the command to report the current word is NVDA+control+. (NVDA, control, full stop or period).
Note on many laptops, the Fn key can be used with other keys as the number pad. Usually this uses the 7, 8 and 9 on the number row as those keys, U, I, O as 4, 5, 6 and K, L, ; as 1, 2, 3 etc. You'd have to work out which key did "numlock" in that case to ensure it was "off" (with numlock on, pressing numpad 5 will result in the number 5 being pressed in any case).
Kind regards
Quentin.
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Exact cursor position in Power Point
Rick
Hello:
I am creating a Power Point presentation and I need to place various objects (e.g. pictures and text boxes) on my slides. I know that I can manage the size and location of these objects to prevent overlap, but in some instances, I want them to overlap to give the illusion of text wrapping around an image. For example, I may have a long line of text followed by several shorter lines and I want to position an image at the end of these shorter lines of text, so knowing the position of the ending characters on these lines of text is desirable.
Is there a way in Power point to determine the exact position (relative to the slide or the containing object) of characters within a line of text in a text box using NVDA?
Thanks, Rick
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Re: twitter accessibility
Sylvie Duchateau
Hello, As other on the list previously said, you can use twitter's web site with NVDA rather well. Twitter has implemented their own shortcuts, similar to nvda browsing keys. So, if you want to use twitter's hotkeys, press nvda+shift+space bar to disable single key navigation of NVDA. Press n to write a new tweet. l to like a tweet r to reply to a tweet ... To access the complete short cut list, do the following:
Twitter is coded to send you alert messages when a tweet arrives,
and tells you what to press if you want to read it. Do not hesitate if you have further questions. Best Sylvie
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
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Both Jaws and NVDA do have command for calling via the run dialog so we just remember its command, and type exactly. Other member has told this For installed version of NVDA: nvda Start NVDA normaly nvda -r restart NVDA nvda -q Quit NVDA Jawsxxxx (where xxxx your Jaws version): start Jaws
On 7/16/2019 12:06 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Why not put a shortcut and call it jfw into c:\windows\system32 then just from the run dialogue when you want to want to start nvda type nvda. I do this with a lot of programs and shortcuts I use on windows and it makes my workflow much faster. Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 15 Jul 2019, at 21:15, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Gene
It isn't guesswork if you prepare. It is much
more convenient to assign a shortcut key but I explained how to run JAWS without
one because one isn't automatically assigned. When NVDA is running, you go
to the desktop, press home, and type j until you get to the JAWS icon. You
count the number of times. Then you know how many times to press J when no
screen-readers are running. Knowing how to do things without speech and
having confidence that you can is a skill that is useful at times.
It can help you troubleshoot on occasion.
I'll provide an example or two if people are interested.
and there may be times you don't want control j as
the JAWS shortcut. You may not want one at all. I almost never use
JAWS but I want to demo available in case it is useful to run it. Now and
then, I would accidentally execute the JAWS control alt j shortcut. Maybe
I would be executing control alt h and my finger would accidently press j at the
same time. I didn't want the inconvenience of having JAWS start now and
then accidently. I didn't want to use another shortcut key because I use a
lot of them. So I have no shortcut key assigned to JAWS. If I want
to run it, I unload NVDA, go to the desktop, press home, type j once, and press
enter. On my system one press of j takes me to the JAWS icon.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
The assigning of the hotkey is not automatic,. And I had thought the startup wizard allowed an opportunity to set one, but I just checked, and it doesn’t, so you would have to do it the traditional way.
Just my opinion of course, but hitting j several times until you (hopefully) get to the right programme seems a bit tenuous and too much like guesswork, to me. Much easier to just invoke the run box and type in the name of the jaws version you have installed and want to run. By now I’m probably going to start attaining the nickname Mr. Run-box around here. *grins*
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Unless this has changed, control alt j is not automatically assigned as a shortcut by JAWS. I haven't used JAWS for many years but in the past, users would set that short cut command using the shortcut JAWS would put on the desktop.
Unless you know the shortcut is there, with NVDA running, go to the desktop, press home then type j until you get to JAWS. Remember how many times you pressed j so you can start JAWS without control alt j. After you press j the needed number of times, press enter.
If you use Windows key m to go to the desktop, to be sure you are on it when no screen-reader is running, press it three times.
I believe Windows key d takes you to the desktop reliably the first time you execute the command but on some keyboards, it is a very inconvenient command to use and Windows key m three times is far more convenient.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS
hi.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
molly the blind tech lover
lol same thing happened to me 😉
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:20 AM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Arlene
It will be a din if you had both Jaws and NVDA run at the same time. I’ve had that happen on my old 7 box. For some reason the 7 box froze and I could not get any of the screen reders up. I got Jaws running then NVDA still there was silence. Then suddenly they both started talking.s
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: July 15, 2019 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS
I think both can run at the same time but that would be confusing lol.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Arlene
Yes, control alt J is used for jaws short cut. It’s after you set it up after installing jaws. If Jaws with the letter J is on the desktop then you hit J once. If you hit J with no screen reader then Jaws will come up. Same with NVDAonly if you hit n or control alt n for NVDA to come up.
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From: Gene
Sent: July 15, 2019 9:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS
Unless this has changed, control alt j is not automatically assigned as a shortcut by JAWS. I haven't used JAWS for many years but in the past, users would set that short cut command using the shortcut JAWS would put on the desktop.
Unless you know the shortcut is there, with NVDA running, go to the desktop, press home then type j until you get to JAWS. Remember how many times you pressed j so you can start JAWS without control alt j. After you press j the needed number of times, press enter.
If you use Windows key m to go to the desktop, to be sure you are on it when no screen-reader is running, press it three times.
I believe Windows key d takes you to the desktop reliably the first time you execute the command but on some keyboards, it is a very inconvenient command to use and Windows key m three times is far more convenient.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS
hi.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
JM Casey
The assigning of the hotkey is not automatic,. And I had thought the startup wizard allowed an opportunity to set one, but I just checked, and it doesn’t, so you would have to do it the traditional way.
Just my opinion of course, but hitting j several times until you (hopefully) get to the right programme seems a bit tenuous and too much like guesswork, to me. Much easier to just invoke the run box and type in the name of the jaws version you have installed and want to run. By now I’m probably going to start attaining the nickname Mr. Run-box around here. *grins*
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 16, 2019 12:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS
Unless this has changed, control alt j is not automatically assigned as a shortcut by JAWS. I haven't used JAWS for many years but in the past, users would set that short cut command using the shortcut JAWS would put on the desktop.
Unless you know the shortcut is there, with NVDA running, go to the desktop, press home then type j until you get to JAWS. Remember how many times you pressed j so you can start JAWS without control alt j. After you press j the needed number of times, press enter.
If you use Windows key m to go to the desktop, to be sure you are on it when no screen-reader is running, press it three times.
I believe Windows key d takes you to the desktop reliably the first time you execute the command but on some keyboards, it is a very inconvenient command to use and Windows key m three times is far more convenient.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS
hi.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Gene
Unless this has changed, control alt j is not
automatically assigned as a shortcut by JAWS. I haven't used JAWS for many
years but in the past, users would set that short cut command using the shortcut
JAWS would put on the desktop.
Unless you know the shortcut is there, with NVDA
running, go to the desktop, press home then type j until you get to JAWS.
Remember how many times you pressed j so you can start JAWS without control alt
j. After you press j the needed number of times, press enter.
If you use Windows key m to go to the desktop, to
be sure you are on it when no screen-reader is running, press it three
times.
I believe Windows key d takes you to the desktop
reliably the first time you execute the command but on some keyboards, it is a
very inconvenient command to use and Windows key m three times is far more
convenient.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS hi.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
molly the blind tech lover
I think both can run at the same time but that would be confusing lol.
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
molly the blind tech lover
hi.
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Re: Making NVDA reconsider focus
Quentin Christensen
It might be enough, but the issue could also be caused by things which happen earlier. For instance, an error occurring (in NVDA) when trying to display the program window. In that case, the most useful information would come from the log just before the loss of focus. In any case, you could provide both by recreating the issue, pressing NVDA+F1 and copying everything (the focus information is presented at the end of the log on that screen).
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:27 PM Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
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Re: Making NVDA reconsider focus
Jonathan COHN
I was thinking that even just a insert-F1 listing of what is the NVDA current focus and what screen shows focus as might be helpful.
Jonathan
From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Re my comment about other programs "stealing focus", I phrased that badly - while that's the way it appears to NVDA, you are right, in many cases, you can press all the usual keystrokes and the correct things happen in the program as they normally would, but NVDA does not report them because it has been trapped by some invisible overlay the other program has put on the screen. In some cases, moving the focus away and back does fix that issue.
Similarly with the DLL registration issue, it might not cause an issue for a sighted user, but it affects how NVDA collects its information. If it isn't happening consistently then as you say, it may not be that.
The best I can suggest, is if you could set NVDA's log level to debug, try to recreate the issue, and send us a copy of the log from it.
Kind regards
Quentin
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 7:13 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Andy
You can have them both on your machine, but you can't run them at the same time. You would have to unload one before starting the other.
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Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 5:00 PM Subject: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS If I install JAWS in addition to NVDA how do I switch from one to another? I know that I can exit NVDA with nvdq+q. How would I switch back? How would I quit
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Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS
Sam Bushman
Run jaws with ctrl-alt-j or click on the jaws icon on your desktop.
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When you eant to leave jaws press insert f4 and you can exit jaws. Then just press alt-ctrl-n to launch nvda again. I do this all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 6:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Using both NVDA and JAWS If I install JAWS in addition to NVDA how do I switch from one to another? I know that I can exit NVDA with nvdq+q. How would I switch back? How would I quit JAWS and then switch back? Thanks, John -- John J. Boyer Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost
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