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Code Factory add-in for NVDA

Ed Marquette
 

All:
If you work in a corporate or professional environment, beware of the Code Factory Eloquence/Vocalizer add-on for NVDA.
I happily purchased and installed the product on my home laptop, a Lenovo Yoga (1st generation).
Similarly, back in May, I installed and, after a little trouble, activated the product on my office Lenovo Yoga (2nd generation).
Beginning on June 17, with my new office Lenovo Yoga (3rd generation) machine, activation is impossible without administrator status, a status in the corporate world reserved by those in the IT departments of the world who know the secret handshake. OK. I’m being a little sarcastic.
Well, the activation routine in the product (which had earlier worked with the old machine) claimed there was an Internet connection error. Therefore, activation was impossible.
I should also mention that my new Yoga came with a new desktop sporting the last 2018 Windows update and Office 365.
After IT and Code Factory exchanged messages, Code Factory furnished the identity of the port that in the firewall that had to be opened up for activation.
That port was activated, but the problem persisted.
We shared with Code Factory that we were out of ideas. Technical support at Code Factory said it was out of ideas too. There was no apology, no offer of a refund, and no expression of regret.
Our IT people has actually discovered that the installation can be activated if the specified port is opened and if activation is by someone with a wide open, so-called 0 administrator account. That wouldn’t be so bad. Our IT personnel then tried to run the add-on without the 0 administrator account . It shut down with the same Internet connection error. The error message is totally bogus.
So, it appears hat an administrator account is needed both to activate and to operate the add-on. I won’t be using the Code Factory add-on. I’m OK with Microsoft David, but I could use something a little more responsive — a voice that doesn’t insist on a strangle hold licensing scheme.

Re: Volume Mute

 

Are you possibly thinking of the Audio Themes add-on?
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Re: Volume Mute

A.Mac
 

hi, press windows+r , which takes you into the runn edit box.

then type sndvol, and that will take you into the volume mixer,.

On 17/07/2019 07:12, Andrea Sherry wrote:

I believe that there was an addon to perform this function i.e. unmute volume and raise to max volume.

Does this addon still exist?

Andrea



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Volume Mute

Andrea Sherry
 

I believe that there was an addon to perform this function i.e. unmute volume and raise to max volume.

Does this addon still exist?

Andrea

Re: PowerPoint tutorials

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cecilia,

I'm starting to look at PowerPoint in preparation for an official Microsoft PowerPoint with NVDA module.  It will be along the same lines as the existing Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Outlook with NVDA modules available from https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

In the meantime, feel free to ask any questions or let me know of any bugs you encounter, so I can investigate.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:56 AM Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...> wrote:


are there any tutorials on using NVDA with the latest PowerPoint with Microsoft 365?




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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

In-Process for 17th July

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week's In-Process is out.  Featuring details on the many updates in NVDA 2019.2 Beta 3, a reminder about topic submissions for NVDACon, and tips on having NVDA spell the current word:

Re: how to check spelling of a suggested word in spellchecker if you don't have a numpad on the laptop

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome Dan!  You inspired me to expand on that information in this week's In-Process: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-17th-july/

All the best,

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:08 PM Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

Very big thank you Quentin!

God bless.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 6:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to check spelling of a suggested word in spellchecker if you don't have a numpad on the laptop

 

Hi Dan,

 

Numpad 5 is the desktop keyboard layout keystroke for "report current word in review".  If you have a laptop which does not have a dedicated numberpad, you might consider setting NVDA to use laptop keyboard layout from NVDA's keyboard settings (press NVDA+control+k to open the keyboard settings directly).  If you are using laptop keyboard layout, the command to report the current word is NVDA+control+. (NVDA, control, full stop or period).

 

Note on many laptops, the Fn key can be used with other keys as the number pad.  Usually this uses the 7, 8 and 9 on the number row as those keys, U, I, O as 4, 5, 6 and K, L, ; as 1, 2, 3 etc.  You'd have to work out which key did "numlock" in that case to ensure it was "off" (with numlock on, pressing numpad 5 will result in the number 5 being pressed in any case).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:37 AM Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I can check the spelling of a suggested word when using spellchecker using NVDA  by tabbing to the list of suggestions and pressing Numpad 5 twice to have the word spelled.

But what can be done for a laptop that doesn’t have a Numpad to get the same information?  Thanks in advance.


 

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Re: PowerPoint tutorials

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi ☺
There is a tutorial on how to edit a powerpoint with NVDA. Here is the link. Hope this helps.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20create%20a%20PowerPoint%20presentation%20with%20NVDA.html

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cecelia Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PowerPoint tutorials



Sent from my iPhone are there any tutorials on using NVDA with the latest PowerPoint with Microsoft 365?

Re: NVDA and Kurzweil 1000

 

No but it could be the same as my issues with explorer.

make sure icons and not thumbnails are on in folder options, empty drives are always shown, folders open in their own window and launch in a sepperate process.

This has helped me a lot but not completely.

I have noticed this behaviour in system restore creation.

The only way is to control tab away from system restore and keep doing that till system protection tab shows again.

If it still crashes on you, reboot, if you know the folder you want you can type explorer d:\folder\folder\folder and it will view it fine usually.

Its actually days like this I really want to find another shell replacement for windows explorer so I don't have to rely on it for at least viewing folders, its fine for just about anything else.

On 17/07/2019 10:15 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


I have just discovered that, under windows 10, I cannot navigate files scanned by Kurzweil 1000 using the standard cursor keys. The cursor just sits at the first letter on the first line of the file.


This used to work under Windows 7 with NVDA - is anyone else having this issue?


--Sile




NVDA and Kurzweil 1000

Sile
 

Hello


I have just discovered that, under windows 10, I cannot navigate files scanned by Kurzweil 1000 using the standard cursor keys. The cursor just sits at the first letter on the first line of the file.


This used to work under Windows 7 with NVDA - is anyone else having this issue?


--Sile

Re: Braille and wx events

 

Hi,
Short answer: I'm going to forward this to a more appropriate list, namely NVDA development list.
Long answer: it depends on what one is doing and the control in question - it can activate it, can set cursor position, etc. You won't see wxPython/wxWidgets events for these because it isn't routed through that, as this is strictly a braille handler routine (unless I'm reading the source code wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vincent Le Goff
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Braille and wx events

Hi everyone,


Playing around with wxPython, I was wondering what the heck the Braille cursor routine do when clicked. It seems using them does not generate a click event that wxPython can intercept. Or a key event (some will interpret the Braille cursor keys as a series of left and right to go to the specified point, if possible). I've tried different mouse cursor event but nothing works (except when I use NVDA + pavnum-MouseLeft and pavnum-MouseLeft, which does generate these events).


Just curious how that's implemented. I use Braille routing on a daily basis, though usually in editors. Could someone tell me why these wx events are not generated when I click on my cursor routing keys? And if there are events I can link to (or, if not, why?).


Thanks!


Vincent

Re: Braille and wx events

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

While this posting is technically on topic for this list, I don't know that you are going to get many useful responses. I am asking anyone who does not know the answer to please refrain from responding. If this post generates some very technical discussion, which I am not sure will happen, I may ask that this thread, at a point, gets locked as this list is more for general discussion. Finally, I would recommend that this topic is re-posted on the NVDA-dev discussion list, or a more technical list as it may generate more useful responses.

thanks.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:22 PM Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,


Playing around with wxPython, I was wondering what the heck the Braille
cursor routine do when clicked.  It seems using them does not generate a
click event that wxPython can intercept.  Or a key event (some will
interpret the Braille cursor keys as a series of left and right to go to
the specified point, if possible). I've tried different mouse cursor
event but nothing works (except when I use NVDA + pavnum-MouseLeft and
pavnum-MouseLeft, which does generate these events).


Just curious how that's implemented.  I use Braille routing on a daily
basis, though usually in editors.  Could someone tell me why these wx
events are not generated when I click on my cursor routing keys?  And if
there are events I can link to (or, if not, why?).


Thanks!


Vincent







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Braille and wx events

Vincent Le Goff
 

Hi everyone,


Playing around with wxPython, I was wondering what the heck the Braille cursor routine do when clicked.  It seems using them does not generate a click event that wxPython can intercept.  Or a key event (some will interpret the Braille cursor keys as a series of left and right to go to the specified point, if possible). I've tried different mouse cursor event but nothing works (except when I use NVDA + pavnum-MouseLeft and pavnum-MouseLeft, which does generate these events).


Just curious how that's implemented.  I use Braille routing on a daily basis, though usually in editors.  Could someone tell me why these wx events are not generated when I click on my cursor routing keys?  And if there are events I can link to (or, if not, why?).


Thanks!


Vincent

PowerPoint tutorials

Cecelia Rodriguez
 

Sent from my iPhone are there any tutorials on using NVDA with the latest PowerPoint with Microsoft 365?

Re: Making NVDA reconsider focus

Luke Davis
 

Perry and others,

I didn't know this when I posted before, but there is discussion of this issue on GitHub, which I have just found. It would probably be helpful if you could post your experiences there as well, along with debug logs if any, although likely they will be the same as what has already been posted. I intend to add my own information the next time I run into this.

This issue needs as much attention as it can get, as it is still on-going for many of us. The URL is:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8389

Luke

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019, Luke Davis wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019, Perry Simm via Groups.Io wrote:

Sure! The prime example is when I launch a program, such as a browser. A few seconds later, I know I'm in the address bar, and a sighted person can confirm this to me, but there's no speech indicating this. Focus is really in the address bar, and I can type into it. It's just that NVDA hasn't tracked it. Alt+tabbing out then back in resolves it for the moment.
[.]
And as you say, it's an old problem which has existed for many years, across many windows versions, NVDA versions, etc.

Re: labeling the button objects in decTalk speak windows

Josh Kennedy
 

magic cursor addon? or do you mean golden cursor addon? maybe, I'm not sure,  I'll have to download it and play around with it and see if it will let me label objects. 

Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS

Josh Kennedy
 

on my machine, alt control backslash starts NVDA, and alt control right-bracket starts jaws. That is because I don't want the default NVDA shortcut to conflict with some keyboard shortcuts inside google docs, sheets, and slides in chrome and firefox. 

Josh

Re: Using both NVDA and JAWS

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:

Both Jaws and NVDA do have command for calling via the run dialog so we just remember its command, and type exactly. Other member has told this
For installed version of NVDA:
nvda
Start NVDA normally
nvda -r
restart NVDA
nvda -q
Quit NVDA
To possibly add clarity, or to make it more muddy depending on your prospective:

The -r option to nvda actually means "replace", not "restart". It replaces any running NVDA version with the one you just ran with -r. If no NVDA version is running, it doesn't have anything to replace, so just starts normally.

Therefore it is always possible, and perhaps even preferred, to start NVDA with the -r flag. Which is why the default shortcut uses it. It will always start NVDA, whether or not there is a version already running.

Hopefully the necessity to use -r will go away. in some future version, if enough people prefer that (https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8320).

Luke

Re: how to check spelling of a suggested word in spellchecker if you don't have a numpad on the laptop

Dan Thompson
 

Very big thank you Quentin!

God bless.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 6:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to check spelling of a suggested word in spellchecker if you don't have a numpad on the laptop

 

Hi Dan,

 

Numpad 5 is the desktop keyboard layout keystroke for "report current word in review".  If you have a laptop which does not have a dedicated numberpad, you might consider setting NVDA to use laptop keyboard layout from NVDA's keyboard settings (press NVDA+control+k to open the keyboard settings directly).  If you are using laptop keyboard layout, the command to report the current word is NVDA+control+. (NVDA, control, full stop or period).

 

Note on many laptops, the Fn key can be used with other keys as the number pad.  Usually this uses the 7, 8 and 9 on the number row as those keys, U, I, O as 4, 5, 6 and K, L, ; as 1, 2, 3 etc.  You'd have to work out which key did "numlock" in that case to ensure it was "off" (with numlock on, pressing numpad 5 will result in the number 5 being pressed in any case).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:37 AM Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I can check the spelling of a suggested word when using spellchecker using NVDA  by tabbing to the list of suggestions and pressing Numpad 5 twice to have the word spelled.

But what can be done for a laptop that doesn’t have a Numpad to get the same information?  Thanks in advance.


 

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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

Exact cursor position in Power Point

Rick
 

Hello:

 

I am creating a Power Point presentation and I need to place various objects (e.g. pictures and text boxes) on my slides. I know that I can manage the size and

location of these objects to prevent overlap, but in some instances, I want them to overlap to give the illusion of text wrapping around an image. For example, I may have a long line of text followed by several shorter lines and I want to position an image at the end of these shorter lines of text, so knowing the position of the ending characters on these lines of text is desirable.

 

Is there a way in Power point to determine the exact position (relative to the slide or the containing object) of characters within a line of text in a text box using NVDA?

 

Thanks, Rick