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Re: Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hi Sam,

Please see below Cyrille her comments and ask.

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From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cyrille via Groups.Io
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2019 15:01
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Test release - OutlookExtended V1.3-dev-20190718-fixOffice365IDsChange

 

Hello all

Here is a release trying to fix the issue with headers in new Office 365 versions.

Download link:
https://github.com/CyrilleB79/outlookExtended/releases/download/V1.3-dev-20190718-fixOffice365IDsChange/outlookExtended-1.3-dev-20190718.nvda-addon


@Joseph, Noelia, admins:
Could you update download link for dev version on the website?

@Users experimenting issue reading the headers with recent Office 365 version:
Could you perform some or all of the following tests with tis new addon version and the log level set to "DEBUG"?
1. Open a message to read, e.g. from Inbox:
 1a. Try to read headers with Alt+1 to Alt+6
 1b. By pressing Shift+Tab, you may reach a button to expand or reduce the headers. Press it to change the headers state from expanded to collapsed or vice versa and try to read the headers again.
 1c. If you have the opportunity to have signed messages, try to read "Signed by" field by pressing Alt+7, either with headers ewpanded and collapsed.
2. Open a new message (in edition) and fill in the "To", "Cc" and "Bcc" fields
Try to read all the fields with Alt+1 to Alt+6
3. Open NVDA's log with NVDA+F1, save it in a file with Ctrl+S and send it to me. Any comment telling me which test was performed and which works or not is welcomed.
Note: Do not perform these test using confidential e-mails since the headers contents will be logged.

@Ralf:
Could you forward these test instructions to thoses who reported the bug to you?

Thanks.
Cheers,

Cyrille

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Montag, 15. Juli 2019 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Ok, I can wait.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Sam,

 

The fastest way would be to go to the 64bit version of Office 365 as long you have a 64bit Windows.

But don’t forget that you would have to uninstall and re-install Office and that would lead to loosing your Outlook settings.

I wrote Cyrille a message about the problem, She is taking care about the current addon. I’m going to find a solution together with her to get this solved.

I can offer you my older addon outlook enhanced in the meantime, I modified it so that it  works with the new control-ID’s.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 16:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi Ralf,

 

Yes, you are correct. Is it better for me to wait until the fix – or better for me to upgrade to the 64bit version?

I would be grateful for your recommendation.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hello,

 

I’m one of the co-authors of this addon. Am I right that you are using office365 32bit version?

We discovered a problem that Microsoft changed some control-ID’s in the 32bit versions of Outlook and that’s why the Alt-numkeys aren’t working anymore.

I’m sure that a future update of the addon will handle this issue.

 

Best,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 05:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi All,

 

I am having a problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2 plugin.

 

I am running NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) Version: beta-18028,e579eb02

 

However same issue with the latest official release of NVDA as well.

 

When I press shift-nvda-I or shift-nvda-a the commands work perfectly.

 

But, when I press alt-1-9 I just get the message (Not in a message window).

This is when I am in a message.

 

Any ideas how I can resolve this?

 

Thanks so much for any help.

Sam

 


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Luke Davis
 

Phil Jenkins wrote:

Now here’s the question: should I  splash to on Office 365 or can I use some kind of Open Source, free office suite just as well? Mostly all I really need
I wouldn't do either. I used OpenOffice for years, but this year I finally got sick of its issues, and bought a recycled office 2019 license and download from Amazon for $26. I understand the same can be done for even less now, $10-$12 USD.

I guess the NVDA key is the ‘zero’ on the num pad on the right hand side on a full-sized keyboard? Mind you, it might do me some good to use the left  caps
The NVDA key is any of the numpad insert, the regular insert (six-pack on a full size keyboard), or the capslock key. You can turn all three of those on or off as you see fit. They can be used interchangeably, based on your convenience.

Luke


Re: nvda and vlc?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I do all the time. I have 719 videos and now almost 500 subscribers. I won't discuss how I do my video editing here as I can't do that anywhere. I just do it and everyone likes it. But I love it.

Anyway if anyone is interested email me in private and I'll shoot you a. youtube link, or maybe it's in my sig.

Thanks for the vlc tips. I'll try it out later today on my stream.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 18 Jul 2019, at 8:18, Ame wrote:

Hi!  I don’t know anything about a mac.  I do know that, to turn things up and down with vlc, all you have to do is use the arrows.  Same with scanning through something.  I think it’s later versions that allow you to just use an arrow.  Alt left or right and control left or right allow you to jump farther over.  As for the equalizer, I never mess with any of that so I’m afraidsomeone else will have to help you there.  Now let me ask you a question.  I’m totally blind and, from what I understand, there must be video content for you to upload to YouTube.  How on earth is someone who can’t see anything gonna manage to upload something.  I’d like to try. 


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Re: dropbox

Phil Jenkins gmail
 

That’s what I do all the time, didn’t know there was a different way?

 

PJ

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 July 2019 18:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox

 

I don't know what you mean by prefs but the interface is not properly accessible if you want to do many things.  You can't select more than one item at a time in the list.  You can, therefore, only work with one item at a time.  You can move up and down the list with the up and down arrow keys but you can't use home or end to move to the beginning or end of the list.  These are serious limitations.

If you want full accessibility to the list, as before, you have two or three options. 

Perhaps the best option, which I'll discuss here, is to have Dropbox running, but work with the folders and files in Windows Explorer, or file explorer, whatever your version of Windows calls it. 

How you get there may differ in different versions of Windows so I'll let others with different versions explain how they do so.  I'll just explain Windows 7.

Press the Windows key.

Tab once.  You are on your account specific files.  Press enter.

Type d until you get to Dropbox.

This is the Dropbox folder.

Press enter.

Now, work with Dropbox exactly as before. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox

 

The prefs are actually very accessible. I used it last night to check some stuff. Everything read and I could do everythign I could before with it.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 18 Jul 2019, at 1:57, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

Thanks for reporting.  I was rather desperate when I found out I couldn't open my Dropbox folder that easily.  The dropbox window isn't that accessible IMO with NVDA, no matter the installed addons.

 

I reported the issue to Dropbox directly.  Although no answer was sent at this date (that is 10 hours later or so), I find my Dropbox opening normally this morning (though I followed your set of steps).  Again, the preference dialog isn't that accessible with NVDA, though we can manage this modification since it's in the general tab.  I reported my "partial success" to the Dropbox team, asking if possibly accessibility with NVDA and other screen readers could be more tested before features are released.  I do hope for a positive feedback.

 

Thanks again,

 

Vincent

On 7/18/2019 4:40 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi friends:  If your dropbox suddenly looks weird. Here’s how to fix it if you need to

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Howdy All,

 

I just ran into an issue with Dropbox where it wouldn't let me acces my files.  Well, it turned out that it wanted to update and after downloading the

installer and reinstalling Dropbox navigating the folders flat out sucked, so here's how to change the necessary setting for easier navigation.

 

1. Open Dropbox from the system tray, tab to, Access and Manage your Dropbox settings button, and press enter.

 

2. Now tab to, Preferences, and press enter.

 

3. On the General tab, tab to the, Open folders in Dropbox combobox, open this combobox and choose the, Explorer, option.  With Jaws you can open this

combobox with Alt + down arrow and then up arrow to the Explorer option and press enter to close the combobox.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save

and close preferences.

Note:  This can act a little tricky so it might take a couple of attempts to get the Explorer settings change to stick.

If you have a shortcut key that opens Dropbox options, after you openDropbox up arrow to, Preferences, press enter and follow step 3 from above.

Take care. 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Logging onto Website

Christopher Gray
 

Hi:

When I go to nvaccess.org I find no logon information. Is there a different
website for actualy logging into the system to retrieve items I have purchased?

Chris

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Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Phil Jenkins gmail
 

Gene

 

Many thanks for this wonderful overview. I’m about to begin a MSc with  The Open University in October. Whilst the Disabled Student Allowance (DSA) ‘might’ buy me a new SMA for JAWS (currently using 2018) I fell out of ‘love’ with JAWS years ago, and since they bought out Window-Eyes and promptly shut them down, I find their business model very distasteful indeed!! My adoption of JAWS was via the workplace and in the past the huge advantage of JAWS was it could be adapted to use very weird and wonderful software environments in the workplace. Now I’m simply an advanced home user who wants to study effectively and efficiently, I think I ought to both  ‘dump’ this Win7Pro PC along with JAWS and when I move to my new Win10 laptop, move completely and use NVDA. Anyhow, that’s my motivation.

 

Yes, I am someone who uses the system tray quite a lot, especially for Dropbox. I nowadays c myself quite an advanced Windows user.

 

Now here’s the question: should I  splash to on Office 365 or can I use some kind of Open Source, free office suite just as well? Mostly all I really need to do is produce quite  long documents when writing my postgrad essays. Of course, any open source free word processor *MUST* work with my tens of thousands of older documents going back to the  late 80’s and most recently .docx files.

 

I had a go with Thunderbird and didn’t find it very easy to use but that’  might be because I was thinking too MS having moved from OE to Outlook and I note from the NVDA site that  Thunderbird is fully accessible? Is Firefox and Waterfox and Chrome too?

 

I guess the NVDA key is the ‘zero’ on the num pad on the right hand side on a full-sized keyboard? Mind you, it might do me some good to use the left  caps lock too given I’m having  major RSI problems in the tendon of my right thumb which I reckon is because of the weird stretches I’m  doing on my  keyboard  despite it supposedly being a ‘Natural’ MS ergonomic keyboard.

 

Again, hugest Thanks

 

PJ

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 July 2019 17:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

 

You talked about making a slow transition to NVDA.  it won't necessarily be that slow.  A lot of what people do with a screen-reader isn't specifically using screen-reader commands.  A lot of it is using Windows and program commands.  there are certain commands you need to know with any screen--reader at the outset, in terms of efficient use and easier use with programs and Windows.

Here are commands and some information you will want to know right away.

 

Run NVDA, control alt n.

Unload NVDA, NVDA key q.  Press it, wait a moment, then press enter.

Working with the voice:

Open the voice dialog with control NVDA key v.

You are in a field where you select the voices available for the synthesizer you are using.  Itsa combo box.

Tab through the fields to see the adjustments you can make.  The second field is for speed, there is a punctuation field, and other fields.  There is an ok button once you have made the settings changes you want.  Using the default NVDA settings, the settings are saved as permanent in the program when you exit NVDA or whenever it shuts down properly such as when you shut down Windows.  You can change the settings whenever you want but they won't stay changed until you change them by exiting the program or manually save them, control NVDA key c.  My point is that if you change them and the program crashes before you manually save them or before the program shuts down correctly in the same session as you changed them, the next time the program opens, the old settings will be used.

 

Let's say you have made a number of changes or even one, to NVDA as an experiment.  If you haven't closed the program or manually saved the settings, you can set everything back as it was before you made the changes with control NVDA key r.  This is very useful to immediately change settings back to what they were if you intend one or more changes to just be during the current session.  Don't forget to change them back before closing the program or the new settings will be saved as the settings the program will use until you change them again. 

 

Read to end is NVDA key down arrow, that is down arrow on the main keyboard.

I use the caps lock as the NVDA key with this command.  I find it far more convenient than using either insert with down arrow.  You can set NvDA to use caps lock as an NVDA key.  Both inserts can still be used. 

Open keyboard settings with control NVDA key k. 

Tab to a check box that allows the caps lock to work as an NVDA key.  Check it with the space bar.  Tab to and activate the ok button.

Now you can use capslock down arrow as well as either insert down arrow for read to end.  Of course,, you may use caps lock as the NVDA key whenever you wish. 

To use the caps lock key as the caps lock key, press it twice quickly--twice quickly for on, twice quickly for off.

Read current line is NVDA key up arrow on the main keyboard.

However, I use the numpad for that command.  It requires only one hand and only one key to be pressed and it is clustered with the other review commands.

Note the pattern:

Read current line:

Numpad 8.

Read next line numpad 9.

Read previous line, numpad 7.

Current word, numpad 5.

Next word, numpad 6.

Previous word, numpad 4.

Current character, numpad 2.

Next character, numpad 3.

Previous character numpad 1.

All these reading commands are when using the default desktop layout.  If you want to use the laptop layout, I don't know those commands.  There is a different command for read to end in the laptop layout as well.

Speak title bar, NVDA key t.

Speak time, NVDA key 12.

If you use the system tray, that will take a little explanation.  NVDA doesn't explain how to use the system tray using it so ask here.

Just about all commands you used to use in the virtual PC cursor are identical to JAWS.

You may want speech instead of sounds and you may want to make a few other changes to how the equivalent of the Virtual PC Cursor works.  Its called browse mode.

If you want more information, ask here.  of course, you can get this information in the user guide and elsewhere, but it will be faster and more convenient to get a few commands here and a little explanation.

 

Aside from what I've said, if you are a more advanced screen-reader user, you will want to know how to use what NVDA calls object navigation.  You will also want to know how to use what NVDA calls screen review, the rough equivalent of the JAWS cursor even if you aren't more advanced. 

I won't go into all that here, but I'm presenting many things you may want to learn at the outset rather than later, though object navigation is something you may want to learn after screen-review.  It is something you haven't worked with before but if its taught properly, you will catch on to it after some looking around and playing around.  If you use materials to learn it and you have problems, ask here and I'll give some examples that may help you learn to use it better.  Explanation, to an extent, when using object navigation is helpful but my experience is that you really learn it by playing around and following a few concrete examples along with and after a little explanation.

 

Here is something very important.  When you use screen review, always go back to object navigation afterwords.  Don't put it off or forget.  If you stay in screen-review, many from the keyboard commands will work properly but some won't and you will have no idea why.  That's why, you are still in screen review.

 

Others may have a good deal of other information you will be interested in such as about instructional material or commands I haven't discussed but my object is to get you using NVDA in a reasonable number of situations as easily and quickly as possible.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard

Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:09 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

 

Hello PJ,


Welcome to this group, and I'm sure you'll enjoy your experience with NVDA.


I've been using it exclusively since 2009, and I've certainly seen it grow.


 From what I read and hear from other users, The two screen readers both
have features that are better than the other, but NvDA is definitely an
excellent product.


About the NVDA Key:  I use both the Insert (or 0) on the keypad, and the
Capslock.


This setup comes in handy, because if you have to go to the NVDA menu,
for example, you can press Capslock with your left hand and the letter N
with your right hand, and so on.


I use LibreOffice, although there are still some accessibility issues
here and there; Thunderbird for email, Firefox, Chrome and Brave as
browsers, and vlc instead of wmp.


As for commands, you find a full list in the Help section of the NVDA
menu (NVDA key + N).


I hope you enjoy your transition, and I'm sure other users will give you
more detailed tips and recommendations.


Take care,

Ciao,

Ollie


Il 18/07/2019 13:48, Phil Jenkins gmail ha scritto:
>
> Greetings folks
>
> I’m a 20+ year user of JAWS. Not necessarily because it has been the
> ‘best’ but rather because it was what my employer and uni’ provided
> and it simply became habitual. Now I have to pay for all upgrades
> myself, and not really enjoying the ‘drug pusher’  like relationship
> JAWS has with its users, I have decided to make the slow but sure move
> to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact
> I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that
> I cannot do with JAWS.
>
> So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.
>
> 1Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as
> JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the
> ‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?
>
> 2What is the best default email client and web browser to use with
>  NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of
>  Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.
>
> 3Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?
>
> 4Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?
>
> I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m
> about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:
>
> -Outlook
>
> -- IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.
>
> -Word.
>
> -Audible Manager
>
> -Soundtaxi
>
> -Sendspace
>
> -Ccleaner
>
> -Secure Notes
>
> -Dropbox
>
> -WMP.
>
> Thanks all and apologies if this question has been asked and asked
> again, feel free to point me at web resources that will answer my
> questions.
>
> Kindest
>
> PJ
>
> ~~~
>
> As light fades, vision increases. Blind people have vision! ((c)
> Copyright Ciego 1997)
>
> **Please note**
>
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> for the addressee. If you receive this by mistake, please tell me
> immediately and delete the message and attachments. Changes or
> forwarding of this email or its attachments is prohibited unless
> authorised by me. This email and any attachments have been checked for
> malicious software before leaving my machine. You should install your
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Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA

Gene
 

I doubt that copyrights have to specifically assert copyright for every version of the software that exists.  The SAPI version uses Dectalk as the synthesizer used.  SAPI is a means of communicating with Windows, it is not the software itself.  A patent holder on the transistor doesn't have to patent every product transistors are used in.  You are making an equivalent claim.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory add-in for NVDA

well, if the old decTalk access32 for windows95, and the softVoice-willowpond tts are indeed abandonware, if this can be confirmed, then, perhaps you could use one or both of those with NVDA? I emailed the author of softVoice-tts and have heard nothing back. It seems as if that website has been abandoned. And the people who claim they sell decTalk have an old copyright on their site which is 6 or so years old, and it does not even support sapi5. So, again, if the old decTalk access32 and the other tts I mentioned are abandonware, perhaps ESpeak could be modified to load their tts-dll files and those two older voices could be included as a part of ESpeak? Those voices also have their own phonemes, pitches, ways of speaking. So all ESpeak and ESpeak sapi5 would need to do is load, and use, the 24-year-old possiby abandoned decTalk and softVoice-tts dll files, and register and use the voices and/or languages they come with. the last time I heard from the author of softVoice-tts several years ago, he said he did not care if we used softVoice with screen readers. nobody uses it or wants to buy it anymore anyway. 


Re: Brltty, anything new

Deborah Armstrong <debee@...>
 

Maybe you can't get it working in Win10 because of the hooks already there for the Brltty Microsoft hacked up for Narrator.  I'm afraid to try adding Brltty for NVDA because I have Narrator working fine with Braille right now. But it has the same problem NVDA does: there are a lot of weird characters it displays even if you turn off all translation and want to read a BRF raw. 
I can at least try the Braille extender add-on using an old Windows 7 PC but I do wish we could figure out if we could get NVDA to use the Brltty that's already available in Windows 10.
As for Linux, I agree, I've used Brltty in Linux for years. That's off-topic though and there's a whole list for discussing that.
My displays are PowerBraille and Navigators from TeleSensory. They are serial and I have several. I use a USB-To-Serial cable and have had no problems getting Narrator to talk to any of these displays. Some USB-To-Serial cables don't have Windows 10 drivers, but when you have one that does, Brltty supports many old displays.


Re: SPL Addon Questions

 

Hi,

There are two SPL keys – SPL Assistant and SPL Controller. One would go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures, locate StationPlaylist category, and assign commands from there.

The user guide for this add-on can be found here:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/wiki/spladdonguide

Please have the new broadcast subscribe to NVDA SPL list located at:

https://nvda-spl.groups.io/g/nvda-spl

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SPL Addon Questions

 

How do I assign a certain key to be the SPL key?

 

Also, is there more documentation than what is presented in the  Addon help?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 


Re: dropbox

Gene
 

I don't know what you mean by prefs but the interface is not properly accessible if you want to do many things.  You can't select more than one item at a time in the list.  You can, therefore, only work with one item at a time.  You can move up and down the list with the up and down arrow keys but you can't use home or end to move to the beginning or end of the list.  These are serious limitations.
If you want full accessibility to the list, as before, you have two or three options. 
Perhaps the best option, which I'll discuss here, is to have Dropbox running, but work with the folders and files in Windows Explorer, or file explorer, whatever your version of Windows calls it. 
How you get there may differ in different versions of Windows so I'll let others with different versions explain how they do so.  I'll just explain Windows 7.
Press the Windows key.
Tab once.  You are on your account specific files.  Press enter.
Type d until you get to Dropbox.
This is the Dropbox folder.
Press enter.
Now, work with Dropbox exactly as before. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox

The prefs are actually very accessible. I used it last night to check some stuff. Everything read and I could do everythign I could before with it.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
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Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

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On 18 Jul 2019, at 1:57, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

Thanks for reporting.  I was rather desperate when I found out I couldn't open my Dropbox folder that easily.  The dropbox window isn't that accessible IMO with NVDA, no matter the installed addons.


I reported the issue to Dropbox directly.  Although no answer was sent at this date (that is 10 hours later or so), I find my Dropbox opening normally this morning (though I followed your set of steps).  Again, the preference dialog isn't that accessible with NVDA, though we can manage this modification since it's in the general tab.  I reported my "partial success" to the Dropbox team, asking if possibly accessibility with NVDA and other screen readers could be more tested before features are released.  I do hope for a positive feedback.


Thanks again,


Vincent

On 7/18/2019 4:40 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi friends:  If your dropbox suddenly looks weird. Here’s how to fix it if you need to

_________________________________________________________________



Howdy All,

 

I just ran into an issue with Dropbox where it wouldn't let me acces my files.  Well, it turned out that it wanted to update and after downloading the

installer and reinstalling Dropbox navigating the folders flat out sucked, so here's how to change the necessary setting for easier navigation.

 

1. Open Dropbox from the system tray, tab to, Access and Manage your Dropbox settings button, and press enter.

 

2. Now tab to, Preferences, and press enter.

 

3. On the General tab, tab to the, Open folders in Dropbox combobox, open this combobox and choose the, Explorer, option.  With Jaws you can open this

combobox with Alt + down arrow and then up arrow to the Explorer option and press enter to close the combobox.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save

and close preferences.

Note:  This can act a little tricky so it might take a couple of attempts to get the Explorer settings change to stick.

If you have a shortcut key that opens Dropbox options, after you openDropbox up arrow to, Preferences, press enter and follow step 3 from above.

Take care. 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Gene
 

You talked about making a slow transition to NVDA.  it won't necessarily be that slow.  A lot of what people do with a screen-reader isn't specifically using screen-reader commands.  A lot of it is using Windows and program commands.  there are certain commands you need to know with any screen--reader at the outset, in terms of efficient use and easier use with programs and Windows.
Here are commands and some information you will want to know right away.
 
Run NVDA, control alt n.
Unload NVDA, NVDA key q.  Press it, wait a moment, then press enter.
Working with the voice:
Open the voice dialog with control NVDA key v.
You are in a field where you select the voices available for the synthesizer you are using.  Itsa combo box.
Tab through the fields to see the adjustments you can make.  The second field is for speed, there is a punctuation field, and other fields.  There is an ok button once you have made the settings changes you want.  Using the default NVDA settings, the settings are saved as permanent in the program when you exit NVDA or whenever it shuts down properly such as when you shut down Windows.  You can change the settings whenever you want but they won't stay changed until you change them by exiting the program or manually save them, control NVDA key c.  My point is that if you change them and the program crashes before you manually save them or before the program shuts down correctly in the same session as you changed them, the next time the program opens, the old settings will be used.
 
Let's say you have made a number of changes or even one, to NVDA as an experiment.  If you haven't closed the program or manually saved the settings, you can set everything back as it was before you made the changes with control NVDA key r.  This is very useful to immediately change settings back to what they were if you intend one or more changes to just be during the current session.  Don't forget to change them back before closing the program or the new settings will be saved as the settings the program will use until you change them again. 
 
Read to end is NVDA key down arrow, that is down arrow on the main keyboard.
I use the caps lock as the NVDA key with this command.  I find it far more convenient than using either insert with down arrow.  You can set NvDA to use caps lock as an NVDA key.  Both inserts can still be used. 
Open keyboard settings with control NVDA key k. 
Tab to a check box that allows the caps lock to work as an NVDA key.  Check it with the space bar.  Tab to and activate the ok button.
Now you can use capslock down arrow as well as either insert down arrow for read to end.  Of course,, you may use caps lock as the NVDA key whenever you wish. 
To use the caps lock key as the caps lock key, press it twice quickly--twice quickly for on, twice quickly for off.
Read current line is NVDA key up arrow on the main keyboard.
However, I use the numpad for that command.  It requires only one hand and only one key to be pressed and it is clustered with the other review commands.
Note the pattern:
Read current line:
Numpad 8.
Read next line numpad 9.
Read previous line, numpad 7.
Current word, numpad 5.
Next word, numpad 6.
Previous word, numpad 4.
Current character, numpad 2.
Next character, numpad 3.
Previous character numpad 1.
All these reading commands are when using the default desktop layout.  If you want to use the laptop layout, I don't know those commands.  There is a different command for read to end in the laptop layout as well.
Speak title bar, NVDA key t.
Speak time, NVDA key 12.
If you use the system tray, that will take a little explanation.  NVDA doesn't explain how to use the system tray using it so ask here.
Just about all commands you used to use in the virtual PC cursor are identical to JAWS.
You may want speech instead of sounds and you may want to make a few other changes to how the equivalent of the Virtual PC Cursor works.  Its called browse mode.
If you want more information, ask here.  of course, you can get this information in the user guide and elsewhere, but it will be faster and more convenient to get a few commands here and a little explanation.
 
Aside from what I've said, if you are a more advanced screen-reader user, you will want to know how to use what NVDA calls object navigation.  You will also want to know how to use what NVDA calls screen review, the rough equivalent of the JAWS cursor even if you aren't more advanced. 
I won't go into all that here, but I'm presenting many things you may want to learn at the outset rather than later, though object navigation is something you may want to learn after screen-review.  It is something you haven't worked with before but if its taught properly, you will catch on to it after some looking around and playing around.  If you use materials to learn it and you have problems, ask here and I'll give some examples that may help you learn to use it better.  Explanation, to an extent, when using object navigation is helpful but my experience is that you really learn it by playing around and following a few concrete examples along with and after a little explanation.
 
Here is something very important.  When you use screen review, always go back to object navigation afterwords.  Don't put it off or forget.  If you stay in screen-review, many from the keyboard commands will work properly but some won't and you will have no idea why.  That's why, you are still in screen review.
 
Others may have a good deal of other information you will be interested in such as about instructional material or commands I haven't discussed but my object is to get you using NVDA in a reasonable number of situations as easily and quickly as possible.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Hello PJ,


Welcome to this group, and I'm sure you'll enjoy your experience with NVDA.


I've been using it exclusively since 2009, and I've certainly seen it grow.


 From what I read and hear from other users, The two screen readers both
have features that are better than the other, but NvDA is definitely an
excellent product.


About the NVDA Key:  I use both the Insert (or 0) on the keypad, and the
Capslock.


This setup comes in handy, because if you have to go to the NVDA menu,
for example, you can press Capslock with your left hand and the letter N
with your right hand, and so on.


I use LibreOffice, although there are still some accessibility issues
here and there; Thunderbird for email, Firefox, Chrome and Brave as
browsers, and vlc instead of wmp.


As for commands, you find a full list in the Help section of the NVDA
menu (NVDA key + N).


I hope you enjoy your transition, and I'm sure other users will give you
more detailed tips and recommendations.


Take care,

Ciao,

Ollie


Il 18/07/2019 13:48, Phil Jenkins gmail ha scritto:
>
> Greetings folks
>
> I’m a 20+ year user of JAWS. Not necessarily because it has been the
> ‘best’ but rather because it was what my employer and uni’ provided
> and it simply became habitual. Now I have to pay for all upgrades
> myself, and not really enjoying the ‘drug pusher’  like relationship
> JAWS has with its users, I have decided to make the slow but sure move
> to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact
> I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that
> I cannot do with JAWS.
>
> So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.
>
> 1Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as
> JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the
> ‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?
>
> 2What is the best default email client and web browser to use with
>  NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of
>  Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.
>
> 3Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?
>
> 4Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?
>
> I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m
> about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:
>
> -Outlook
>
> -- IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.
>
> -Word.
>
> -Audible Manager
>
> -Soundtaxi
>
> -Sendspace
>
> -Ccleaner
>
> -Secure Notes
>
> -Dropbox
>
> -WMP.
>
> Thanks all and apologies if this question has been asked and asked
> again, feel free to point me at web resources that will answer my
> questions.
>
> Kindest
>
> PJ
>
> ~~~
>
> As light fades, vision increases. Blind people have vision! ((c)
> Copyright Ciego 1997)
>
> **Please note**
>
> This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely
> for the addressee. If you receive this by mistake, please tell me
> immediately and delete the message and attachments. Changes or
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> authorised by me. This email and any attachments have been checked for
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>



SPL Addon Questions

Dan Kerstetter
 

How do I assign a certain key to be the SPL key?

 

Also, is there more documentation than what is presented in the  Addon help?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 


SPL Addon Questions

Dan Kerstetter
 

Is it still necessary for me to assign the SPL layer key to the grave accent key or has it been incorporated into the addon?  It’s been a long time since I’ve done this and I need to train a new broadcaster.


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

thanks from me too, Perry.


Excellent message; I'm going to save it.

I'll follow some of your tips too.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 18/07/2019 16:35, Perry Simm via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Hi and welcome!

On Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:48 PM, Phil Jenkins gmail <philjenkins1966@...> wrote:

[...] I have decided to make the slow but sure move to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that I cannot do with JAWS.
Congratulations on making the transition to true freedom.

So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.
Great start. NVDA feels right at home on Win 10 with latest Office.

1 Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the ‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?
There is a document that gets pretty close to what you are looking for: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

2 What is the best default email client and web browser to use with  NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of  Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.
Chrome and Firefox work great, with Chrome feeling slightly snappier and Firefox feeling slightly more consistent. I'd stay away from Edge until they have completed the transition to the Chromium engine, at which point everything will be good roads and fair weather. In general, anything Chromium-based will be a delightful user experience, so you'll be perfectly safe using Opera or Brave if you so choose.
As for email clients, I'd go for Outlook or Thunderbird or use a web mailer such as Gmail or Protonmail, which is what I chose because I like to enjoy some degree of privacy and sometimes even anonymity in the jungle they call the net.

3 Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?
Winamp is currently semi-abandoned but still works if you know your hotkeys. VLC is more accessible and more configurable.

4 Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?
There is some support for LibreOffice but it is not on par with how NVDA supports MS Office.

I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:
- Outlook
Green light.
- - IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.
Forget about IE, with any of the others you'll be fine.
- Word.
Perfect match.
- Audible Manager
Old, unsupported, but still much more accessible than the new Windows 10 app. Audible also has a cloud player which you can use right in your browser, and it's accessible.
- Soundtaxi
No idea.
- Sendspace
Neither.
- Ccleaner
It's getting less and less accessible, but in the mode called "custom clean" it can still be used.
- Secure Notes
Never heard of that one. Sounds interesting.
- Dropbox
Unpredictable in terms of updates breaking accessibility, but they're trying.
- WMP.
Lots of tabbing. Go with VLC, is my advice.
Cheers Perry



Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

You're most welcome.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 18/07/2019 17:23, Phil Jenkins gmail ha scritto:
Thanks Ollie!

PJ :)



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: 18 July 2019 15:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Hello PJ,


Welcome to this group, and I'm sure you'll enjoy your experience with NVDA.


I've been using it exclusively since 2009, and I've certainly seen it grow.


From what I read and hear from other users, The two screen readers both have features that are better than the other, but NvDA is definitely an excellent product.


About the NVDA Key: I use both the Insert (or 0) on the keypad, and the Capslock.


This setup comes in handy, because if you have to go to the NVDA menu,
for example, you can press Capslock with your left hand and the letter N
with your right hand, and so on.


I use LibreOffice, although there are still some accessibility issues
here and there; Thunderbird for email, Firefox, Chrome and Brave as
browsers, and vlc instead of wmp.


As for commands, you find a full list in the Help section of the NVDA
menu (NVDA key + N).


I hope you enjoy your transition, and I'm sure other users will give you
more detailed tips and recommendations.


Take care,

Ciao,

Ollie


Il 18/07/2019 13:48, Phil Jenkins gmail ha scritto:
Greetings folks

I’m a 20+ year user of JAWS. Not necessarily because it has been the
‘best’ but rather because it was what my employer and uni’ provided
and it simply became habitual. Now I have to pay for all upgrades
myself, and not really enjoying the ‘drug pusher’ like relationship
JAWS has with its users, I have decided to make the slow but sure move
to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact
I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that
I cannot do with JAWS.

So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.

1Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as
JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the
‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?

2What is the best default email client and web browser to use with
NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of
Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.

3Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?

4Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?

I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m
about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:

-Outlook

-- IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.

-Word.

-Audible Manager

-Soundtaxi

-Sendspace

-Ccleaner

-Secure Notes

-Dropbox

-WMP.

Thanks all and apologies if this question has been asked and asked
again, feel free to point me at web resources that will answer my
questions.

Kindest

PJ

~~~

As light fades, vision increases. Blind people have vision! ((c)
Copyright Ciego 1997)

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Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

In the meantime, though, if you want a voice that is responsive and sounds a bit like eloquence, why not use nv-speech-player, it is free and is on the NVDA extra voices website. 

Josh


Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

It, as I understand, is not codeFactory's fault. It is Nuance, the people who bought eloquence when the other smaller companies folded or went under, it is Nuance who says to codeFactory, you can make and sell eloquence as sapi5, for android, for NVDA, but you must agree to our (Nuance's) terms and licenses and license schemes. So CodeFactory has no choice but to impose those restrictive licenses on us. If you really want to get your copy of eloquence running on your work machine, I recommend getting in touch with Nuance about how to activate it on the company or corporate computer you wish to use it on. Because Nuance probably knows how to get that accomplished moreSo than codeFactory does. Because codeFactory is just the company which packages eloquence in particular ways in order to sell it in the forms, NVDA-addon, sapi5, android version, that the end-user wish to use it on. 

Josh


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Phil Jenkins gmail
 

Thanks Ollie!

PJ :)



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: 18 July 2019 15:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Hello PJ,


Welcome to this group, and I'm sure you'll enjoy your experience with NVDA.


I've been using it exclusively since 2009, and I've certainly seen it grow.


From what I read and hear from other users, The two screen readers both have features that are better than the other, but NvDA is definitely an excellent product.


About the NVDA Key: I use both the Insert (or 0) on the keypad, and the Capslock.


This setup comes in handy, because if you have to go to the NVDA menu,
for example, you can press Capslock with your left hand and the letter N
with your right hand, and so on.


I use LibreOffice, although there are still some accessibility issues
here and there; Thunderbird for email, Firefox, Chrome and Brave as
browsers, and vlc instead of wmp.


As for commands, you find a full list in the Help section of the NVDA
menu (NVDA key + N).


I hope you enjoy your transition, and I'm sure other users will give you
more detailed tips and recommendations.


Take care,

Ciao,

Ollie


Il 18/07/2019 13:48, Phil Jenkins gmail ha scritto:

Greetings folks

I’m a 20+ year user of JAWS. Not necessarily because it has been the
‘best’ but rather because it was what my employer and uni’ provided
and it simply became habitual. Now I have to pay for all upgrades
myself, and not really enjoying the ‘drug pusher’ like relationship
JAWS has with its users, I have decided to make the slow but sure move
to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact
I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that
I cannot do with JAWS.

So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.

1Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as
JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the
‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?

2What is the best default email client and web browser to use with
NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of
Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.

3Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?

4Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?

I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m
about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:

-Outlook

-- IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.

-Word.

-Audible Manager

-Soundtaxi

-Sendspace

-Ccleaner

-Secure Notes

-Dropbox

-WMP.

Thanks all and apologies if this question has been asked and asked
again, feel free to point me at web resources that will answer my
questions.

Kindest

PJ

~~~

As light fades, vision increases. Blind people have vision! ((c)
Copyright Ciego 1997)

**Please note**

This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely
for the addressee. If you receive this by mistake, please tell me
immediately and delete the message and attachments. Changes or
forwarding of this email or its attachments is prohibited unless
authorised by me. This email and any attachments have been checked for
malicious software before leaving my machine. You should install your
own internet security package and check this message and any
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responsibility for any malicious software sent with this message.

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Re: nvda and vlc?

Ame
 

Hi!  I don’t know anything about a mac.  I do know that, to turn things up and down with vlc, all you have to do is use the arrows.  Same with scanning through something.  I think it’s later versions that allow you to just use an arrow.  Alt left or right and control left or right allow you to jump farther over.  As for the equalizer, I never mess with any of that so I’m afraidsomeone else will have to help you there.  Now let me ask you a question.  I’m totally blind and, from what I understand, there must be video content for you to upload to YouTube.  How on earth is someone who can’t see anything gonna manage to upload something.  I’d like to try. 


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Re: dropbox

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

The preferences are okay, though NVDA stumbles when getting to some tabs.  The general tab is usable.  When I go to personal tab (is it due to the fact that I have shared folders) I always hit an infinite loop in the tab switching process.  But overall yes, it's fine (even the Dropbox app itself can be accessed with some pain and effort and time :D which was something I was unwilling to grant Dropbox, considering how easy it was to use previously).


Vincent

On 7/18/2019 4:17 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

The prefs are actually very accessible. I used it last night to check some stuff. Everything read and I could do everythign I could before with it.

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On 18 Jul 2019, at 1:57, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

Thanks for reporting.  I was rather desperate when I found out I couldn't open my Dropbox folder that easily.  The dropbox window isn't that accessible IMO with NVDA, no matter the installed addons.


I reported the issue to Dropbox directly.  Although no answer was sent at this date (that is 10 hours later or so), I find my Dropbox opening normally this morning (though I followed your set of steps).  Again, the preference dialog isn't that accessible with NVDA, though we can manage this modification since it's in the general tab.  I reported my "partial success" to the Dropbox team, asking if possibly accessibility with NVDA and other screen readers could be more tested before features are released.  I do hope for a positive feedback.


Thanks again,


Vincent

On 7/18/2019 4:40 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi friends:  If your dropbox suddenly looks weird. Here’s how to fix it if you need to

_________________________________________________________________



Howdy All,

 

I just ran into an issue with Dropbox where it wouldn't let me acces my files.  Well, it turned out that it wanted to update and after downloading the

installer and reinstalling Dropbox navigating the folders flat out sucked, so here's how to change the necessary setting for easier navigation.

 

1. Open Dropbox from the system tray, tab to, Access and Manage your Dropbox settings button, and press enter.

 

2. Now tab to, Preferences, and press enter.

 

3. On the General tab, tab to the, Open folders in Dropbox combobox, open this combobox and choose the, Explorer, option.  With Jaws you can open this

combobox with Alt + down arrow and then up arrow to the Explorer option and press enter to close the combobox.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save

and close preferences.

Note:  This can act a little tricky so it might take a couple of attempts to get the Explorer settings change to stick.

If you have a shortcut key that opens Dropbox options, after you openDropbox up arrow to, Preferences, press enter and follow step 3 from above.

Take care. 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10