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Re: Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Mine is from Western digital. When I can afford it I plan on looking into the idea of a NAS docking station.
If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: John Isige
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?
Hi everybody. I need a new NAS. Anybody have recommendations? Somebody wants to sell me a Synology from 2013. I see it has accessibility, at least somewhat.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Accessibility/accessibility
I'm looking for recommendations because I'm currently using a Western Digital MyBook Live. I can access most of it, but the way you delete shares is to click on a graphical icon that doesn't show up, so I can't do that myself. So I'm hoping to find one that has accessible management software. It seems like Synology's might work, but if anybody's got actual experience with something, I'd surely appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!
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Re: Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?
Ralf Kefferpuetz
I have a Synology DS218J with 2 8TB disks in raid 1, means 8TB netto space and the interface is accessible for 97%.
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Cheers, Ralf
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: Samstag, 27. Juli 2019 19:01 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations? Hi everybody. I need a new NAS. Anybody have recommendations? Somebody wants to sell me a Synology from 2013. I see it has accessibility, at least somewhat. https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Accessibility/accessibility I'm looking for recommendations because I'm currently using a Western Digital MyBook Live. I can access most of it, but the way you delete shares is to click on a graphical icon that doesn't show up, so I can't do that myself. So I'm hoping to find one that has accessible management software. It seems like Synology's might work, but if anybody's got actual experience with something, I'd surely appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
On a related note:
Is there a section of the NVDA Userguide or Keycommands telling about these shortcuts to the NVDA Settings? It's something really important to know and I couldn't find it anywhere.
Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Gene and all,
Gene wrote:
I'll let others describe just how you get into document formatting. I'm not familiar with the newer interface.Ok, here's how you can access the Document Formating Settings the hard way, so to speak :)
Hth Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?
Luke Davis
While I don't know anything about that particular gear--I have always built my own NASes using Linux--I will say that I would have misgivings about buying a piece of 2013 computing equipment of any kind.
If it is not still receiving security patches, I would definitely not buy it. See the conversations here recently about Windows XP. Embedded systems are often even worse than old operating systems, when it comes to security and patching security holes. So if that thing has an ARM, Intel, or AMD processor (or one of several others), for example, and it hasn't received 2018 software updates, it's vulnerable to several processor level hacks that can allow someone to read anything in its memory. That aside, depending on what software it's running, it could even become part of a botnet, like most Windows XP systems are. So be very careful with buying old equipment like this. If it's not still getting software updates, stay far away from it, or only use it in a situation where it never touches the internet. Some links: read the comment by archagon, and some others: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8128521 And perhaps: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1247263 https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/9qzooz/hacked_2_factor_authentication_doesnt_prevent/ Luke
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NVDA addon: Community feedback on new Developer toolkit feature requested
Andy B.
Hi, I am requesting the community’s feedback on a feature for Developer toolkit. Before proceeding with the new feature’s description, I must provide a sample problem a user might encounter while using DTK. Imagine you are a user of DTK. You wish to make a dialog in the top-right corner of your display with a button centered in the dialog. The dialog is to have the dimensions of 100px wide and 100px high. The button is to have the dimensions of 75px wide and 25px high. You know the display resolution is 1920px wide and 1080px high. You confidently code up the dialog to sit in the top-right corner of the display. To verify, you launch the dialog, turn on DTK, navigate to the dialog, then obtain its size and location. After checking the size and location, you are happy with its placement: (left, top, right, bottom): 1820, 0, 1920, 100 [100px wide and 100px high]. You proceed to place a button in the dialog. To verify the button’s size and location, you launch the dialog, put focus on the button, turn on DTK features, and obtain the button’s size and location. To your horror, the location is (left, top, right, bottom): 1820, 0, 1904, 25) [75px wide and 25px high]. It is a reasonable guess that the button is in the top-left corner of the dialog. However, you might have to perform some math to figure it out. Now, imagine what this would look like with a fairly complex design or layout… Messy at best! The problem is that all object locations are reported relative to the entire display. This method is useful for gross layouts such as setting up foreground window placement, or header, footer, multicolumn website layouts. Even the web layouts provide their own issues. Wait though, there is a solution to the problem! The proposed feature I would like comments on is the ability for DTK to provide location information relative to the focused object’s parent. In the example given, you could ask DTK to give you the locations of the left, top, right, and bottom edges based on the distance between the focused object and its parent’s edges. For instance, DTK would report the button location as (left, top, right, bottom): 0, 0, 75, 25. You could still obtain locations based on the entire display’s size though. Implementing this isn’t difficult, but I need feature requests and implementation ideas from a user’s point of view. How would you see this feature implemented?
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Luke Davis
It depends on the website. But in addition to what others have told you, you can try turning off layout tables (nvda+control+b, uncheck the box).
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2019, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hello everyone,
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Gene
I don't know what you intended to type. You
must have used control NVDA d, not s, as you write. If you had used s, you
would have opened the synthesizer settings, which you clearly didn't.
Control NVDA d is a shortcut. It allows you
to open document formatting, without opening the NVDA menu, then preferences,
then find document formatting starting in the NVdA menu. I'll let others
describe just how you get into document formatting. I'm not familiar with
the newer interface. But you won't find anything more if you do
that. You are already in document formatting with control NVDA d.
The menu method gets you to exactly the same place.
However, using the NVDA menu and preferences in
that menu are important to know about so you can look through options in
NVDA. The shortcuts we are discussing are fine for getting to a part of
settings immediately, but they don't subvstitute for knowing the basic structure
of NVDA.
Gene
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From: Gene via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A long talking of Nvda on web The command is NVDA control d for document
formatting.
Gene
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From: Jarek.Krcmar
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A long talking of Nvda on web I cannot find the preferences. I pressed the keys Ctrl+Nvda+S, and there is a formating of documents. There I unchecked anouncing the columns. Jarek Jarek Dne 27.07.2019 v 17:29 Sam Bushman napsal(a): > Please press nvda-n - in the nvda menus choose preferences - then settings - > then arrow down to browser - you can check/uncheck - meaning turn on and off > several settings that can help. For example: I have tables turned off. > Hope this helps. > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jarek.Krcmar > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:17 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] A long talking of Nvda on web > > Hello everyone, > I'd like to get rid of the verbosity of Nvda on the web. > Nvda tells me: > Heading 1, 2, rows 5 columns. > That seems very lengthy. > Can Nvda be set up to be less talkative? >
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Gene
The command is NVDA control d for document
formatting.
Gene
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From: Jarek.Krcmar
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A long talking of Nvda on web I cannot find the preferences. I pressed the keys Ctrl+Nvda+S, and there is a formating of documents. There I unchecked anouncing the columns. Jarek Jarek Dne 27.07.2019 v 17:29 Sam Bushman napsal(a): > Please press nvda-n - in the nvda menus choose preferences - then settings - > then arrow down to browser - you can check/uncheck - meaning turn on and off > several settings that can help. For example: I have tables turned off. > Hope this helps. > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jarek.Krcmar > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:17 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] A long talking of Nvda on web > > Hello everyone, > I'd like to get rid of the verbosity of Nvda on the web. > Nvda tells me: > Heading 1, 2, rows 5 columns. > That seems very lengthy. > Can Nvda be set up to be less talkative? >
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Jarek.Krcmar
Hello,
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I cannot find the preferences. I pressed the keys Ctrl+Nvda+S, and there is a formating of documents. There I unchecked anouncing the columns. Jarek Jarek Dne 27.07.2019 v 17:29 Sam Bushman napsal(a):
Please press nvda-n - in the nvda menus choose preferences - then settings -
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Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?
John Isige
Hi everybody. I need a new NAS. Anybody have recommendations? Somebody wants to sell me a Synology from 2013. I see it has accessibility, at least somewhat.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Accessibility/accessibility I'm looking for recommendations because I'm currently using a Western Digital MyBook Live. I can access most of it, but the way you delete shares is to click on a graphical icon that doesn't show up, so I can't do that myself. So I'm hoping to find one that has accessible management software. It seems like Synology's might work, but if anybody's got actual experience with something, I'd surely appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
hello.
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in document formatting of nvda preferences, i disabled saying all items except page numbers! maybe one person can accept this settings and others not.
On 7/27/19, Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
Hello everyone, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Sam Bushman
Please press nvda-n - in the nvda menus choose preferences - then settings -
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then arrow down to browser - you can check/uncheck - meaning turn on and off several settings that can help. For example: I have tables turned off. Hope this helps. Sam
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jarek.Krcmar Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] A long talking of Nvda on web Hello everyone, I'd like to get rid of the verbosity of Nvda on the web. Nvda tells me: Heading 1, 2, rows 5 columns. That seems very lengthy. Can Nvda be set up to be less talkative? -- Jarek
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Jarek,
Can Nvda be set up to be less talkative?Yep. Try pressing CTRL+NVDA+D and check/uncheck things there accordingly. Hth Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: A long talking of Nvda on web
Antony Stone
Please give an example of a URL where you have this problem, so we know what
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NVDA is telling you about. Otherwise we can only guess, which may not be helpful... Antony.
On Saturday 27 July 2019 at 17:17:01, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hello everyone, --
The words "e pluribus unum" on the Great Seal of the United States are from a poem by Virgil entitled "Moretum", which is about cheese and garlic salad dressing. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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A long talking of Nvda on web
Jarek.Krcmar
Hello everyone,
I'd like to get rid of the verbosity of Nvda on the web. Nvda tells me: Heading 1, 2, rows 5 columns. That seems very lengthy. Can Nvda be set up to be less talkative? -- Jarek
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Re: A Question About NVDA, Python 3 and Espeak
Luke Davis
No, espeak works fine in Python 3 versions of NVDA.
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2019, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Considering all the Python 3 porting conversation I have a question. It's been said that some synthesizers would stop working. Is it the case about Espeak?
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A Question About NVDA, Python 3 and Espeak
Hi,
Considering all the Python 3 porting conversation I have a question. It's been said that some synthesizers would stop working. Is it the case about Espeak? Thanks a lot.
Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: Using Alpha snapshot 18199 Python 3 and my experiences!
David Csercsics
In limited testing, it seemed to work quite well, so far. Except that Braille Extender doesn't load. I'm wondering if it's better to have that in NVDA core anyway, as the built-in braille support seems a bit primitive. But I'm not sure what others think of that. Pretty much the only add-ons that I use are the Windows 10 essentials one, and the updater and the braille Extender because I prefer braille to speech anyway, and I like the screen reader to be light on resources and just make things work well. But I'll test it a bit more with web stuff, and the other things I usually use, and see how I might go about suggesting improvements. I'll dust off my Python and see if I might be able to help that way as well. I'm not familiar with Windows programming, but I did write some Python quite a bit for Linux console and a bit of C and C++ as part of my computer science courses, and I'd not mind picking it back up again, it's just getting acquainted with the Windows code.
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Re: Using Alpha snapshot 18199 Python 3 and my experiences!
David Moore
Thanks, Joseph and all! I will send logs as soon as I encounter a problem! Very good result’s in Calculator and many apps and programs, even in TW blue! David Moore
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From: Andy B.
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Alpha snapshot 18199 Python 3 and my experiences!
I will start providing logs to nvda-dev soon. Here is one to get you started…
NVDA latest alpha snapshot, Windows 10 1903, Chrome 75, EspeakNg.
Actual results: Google.com in Chrome performs the search as expected. However, an error tone sounds after resuming browse mode. The log follows.
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (21:17:37.321): error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionEditorIa2WebIAccessible object at 0x071BE770> with extra args of {'ch': '\r'} Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 980, in event_typedCharacter File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 695, in speakTypedCharacters File "api.pyc", line 247, in isTypingProtected File "baseObject.pyc", line 46, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 149, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 854, in _get_isProtected File "baseObject.pyc", line 46, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 149, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2Web.pyc", line 58, in _get_states File "baseObject.pyc", line 46, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 149, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 866, in _get_states File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 22, in __call__ _ctypes.COMError: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
Expected results: NVDA should not sound an error after doing a Google search, and the log should not indicate any errors.
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From: Joseph Lee
Hi, For others also: if you do run into issues with add-ons, please contact add-on authors. In regards to Windows 10 apps, at least my add-on should be seen as enabled. In any case, we need a log please. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Hi all! I am using the Python three 18199 latest alpha snapshot. Experiences so far! It works better in the Win10 Mail app than it ever has. I get many error sounds, but I ignore them. With Google Chrome, is very sluggish and I hear many error sounds. I am having trouble navigating by form field especially. In many other Win10 apps, is very sluggish, and is shutting down and coming back on! Some examples: News app, One Note, Weather app, and the MS store. I am using one core voices, because decktalk add-on no longer works. Some of the English eSpeak voices are not as clear. In the settings app, it is not giving as much info and I have to press NVDA+Tab a lot to get that info. These are my experiences so far. I just want people to know what I have found so far! Over all, it is working very well for Python 3. This is very promising. I can’t wait to get a lot of my add-ons back. David Moore
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