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Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
I go in to the view menu toolbars only thing checked in there is status bar. then view menu view message body as original HTML is checked.
Not sure where I did this but turned off the extra tool bars so I just have the tree view with the folders and the list view of messages like outlook express.
Out of the box Thunderbird has a today pain and some tabs and a few other fluttery things open. Tabbing threw them is time consuming and some times you can get stuck in a window element. So I just turn off every thing I can. There is a chat section to disable also unless one uses it.
Pete


Re: Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

 

Hi,
Are you possibly using NVDA next snapshot version? Press Control+NvDA+S and let us know the entry for Espeak (if you are using latest next snapshot, it should say "Espeak NG").
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah [mailto:nageswara1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:37 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

Why is this inconsistency with regard to eSpeak? In the present version, it says Telugu test when selecting the voice profile. In the previous versions like 2011.3, it used to be Telugu only and not Telugu test.
Regards.


On 3/9/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Yes, this confirms a hypothesis set forth by some: settings issue.
Please send your nvda.ini file (from your user configuration
directory) to me at joseph.lee22590@gmail.com and I'll send you the corrected version.
Cheers,Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Ângelo Abrantes [mailto:ampa4374@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

He,
I don't nnow what's happening with portuguese "next" NVDA versions and
espeak.
Here you have the nvda.log extract, where the error apears.
"Speaking [LangChangeCommand (u'pt_PT'), u'eSpeak NG'] IO -
inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:01:24):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (15:01:24):
Using eSpeak version 1.48.15 16.Apr.15 WARNING -
synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (15:01:24):
Invalid voice: pt-pt
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:01:24):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 88, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 499, in loadSettings
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 29, in changeVoice
File "synthDrivers\espeak.pyc", line 219, in _set_voice
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 366, in _get_language
KeyError: u'pt-pt'
WARNING - stdout (15:01:24):
OrderedDict([('262144', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930AF0>), ('65537', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930B50>), ('65536', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930BB0>), ('131073', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930C10>), ('131072', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930C70>), ('589824', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930CD0>), ('196608', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930D30>), ('196609', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at".
Thanks
Ângelo Abrantes







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K. Nageswaraiah


Re: Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 

Why is this inconsistency with regard to eSpeak? In the present
version, it says Telugu test when selecting the voice profile. In the
previous versions like 2011.3, it used to be Telugu only and not
Telugu test.
Regards.

On 3/9/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Yes, this confirms a hypothesis set forth by some: settings issue. Please
send your nvda.ini file (from your user configuration directory) to me at
joseph.lee22590@gmail.com and I'll send you the corrected version.
Cheers,Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Ângelo Abrantes [mailto:ampa4374@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

He,
I don't nnow what's happening with portuguese "next" NVDA versions and
espeak.
Here you have the nvda.log extract, where the error apears.
"Speaking [LangChangeCommand (u'pt_PT'), u'eSpeak NG'] IO -
inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:01:24):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (15:01:24):
Using eSpeak version 1.48.15 16.Apr.15
WARNING - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (15:01:24):
Invalid voice: pt-pt
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:01:24):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 88, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 499, in loadSettings
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 29, in changeVoice
File "synthDrivers\espeak.pyc", line 219, in _set_voice
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 366, in _get_language
KeyError: u'pt-pt'
WARNING - stdout (15:01:24):
OrderedDict([('262144', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930AF0>), ('65537', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930B50>), ('65536', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930BB0>), ('131073', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930C10>), ('131072', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930C70>), ('589824', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930CD0>), ('196608', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930D30>), ('196609', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at".
Thanks
Ângelo Abrantes






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K. Nageswaraiah


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Kakarla Nageswaraiah
 

Dear all,

I downloaded the mp3 version of Brandon Biggs' tutorial on NVDA with
Gmail and I have some doubts regarding that.

1. In what way(s) is/are the standard view better than basic html view?

2. What's the difference between opening a mail and opening a mail in
a new window?

Thanks and regards.

On 3/10/16, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I use
https://obsproject.com/
Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <
supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,
What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is
visible, I'd assume you use a screen recording program.



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K. Nageswaraiah


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Kwork
 

Or just hit the letter I till it says Ivan 3. That's what I did when in the
list of variants. I still can't use eSpeak though as it plays havoc on my
tinnitus.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


Hi, Dan,

I had to use my up-arrow key to find Ivan 3 in the list of variants.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:14 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

When I go through the list of voices I only find Iven but no Iven 3.
How do I find Iven 3?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/9/2016 11:06 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
in the espeak, did you try iven3?
its very great, lovely, natural, fast and responsive and made me
completely satisfied.


On 3/10/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The eloquence add on, unless it has been corrected, has lots of
annoying anomalies that shouldn't be in Eloquence. Don't buy it
unless you try the demo first. I haven't seen anything on the list
indicating that the problems have been correct and I've seen recent
messages indicating that the problems have not been.

Let's hope that they will be in future but they may well not be yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


Hi I know that eloquence addon from code factory works well with nvda
and is responsive. There is also vocalizer adddon for nvda.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

I have a new laptop which has windows 10 onit. It is so new that
some of the old synths I have used in the past on my old laptop won't
even install.

Now I guess I am in the market for a new synth with some new voices.

Which of those offered out there are good in response time and which
handle pronunciation of the most words correctly?

Please do not suggest ESpeak because I have tried it every release
of NVDA and I just can't deal with the voices it has.

I have been using MS David since getting this machine and it is
painful with the sluggish response times.

Thanks for any info. I hope to learn from others rather than having
to learn by painful experience.

Dan Beaver







Re: java access bridge

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi Chris
Here is what I did using the accessbridge-2_0_2-fcs-bin-b06.zip and the jre-8u65-windows-i586.exe and the jre-8u65-windows-x64.exe using windows 7 64 bit pro.
After installing the 64 and 32 bit versions of j r e.

@ echo off
REM Unzip accessbridge-2_0_2-fcs-bin-b06.zip and run batch from with in...
copy /b /v "WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll" "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll"
copy /b /v "WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll" "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll"
copy /b /v "JavaAccessBridge-32.dll" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JavaAccessBridge-32.dll"
copy /b /v "JavaAccessBridge-64.dll" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JavaAccessBridge-64.dll"
copy /b /v "JAWTAccessBridge-32.dll" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JAWTAccessBridge-32.dll"
copy /b /v "JAWTAccessBridge-64.dll" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JAWTAccessBridge-64.dll"
copy /b /v "accessibility.properties" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties"
copy /b /v "accessibility.properties" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties"
copy /b /v "access-bridge-32.jar" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\access-bridge-32.jar"
copy /b /v "access-bridge-64.jar" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\access-bridge-64.jar"
copy /b /v "jaccess.jar" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\jaccess.jar"
copy /b /v "jaccess.jar" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\jaccess.jar"
cls
exit

Next edit the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties" and the "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties"files to enable the access bridge.
That's about it.
Pete

On 3/8/2016 7:17 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Pete
On a 64-bit version of Windows, both 32 and 64-bit JRE's should be installed. WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll needs to be in the System32 folder and WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll in the SysWow64 folder. The latter folder is for 32-bit programs running on a 64-bit system and NVDA log shows an error if the 32-bit dll is not present. The Java installers have been useless for several versions now an I have had to update the folders manually.

Cheers
Chris

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 08 March 2016 20:28
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] java access bridge


hi
two things about manually activating java access bridge on windows.
Depending on 32 or 64 bit version of windows the windows access bridge
32 dll file needs to be copied to the windows system32 folder for the 32 bit windows version and the windows access bridge 64 dll file needs to be copied to the windows syswow64 folder for the 64 bit version of windows. Additionally the accessibility.properties file in the Java \ jre [what ever version U have] \ lib folder needs to be edited and the lines for the access bridge need to be uncommented.
For some unknown reason to me the java installers do not copy the windows access bridge 32 or 64 files to the system folders on windows.
I also found the ease of access applet not to be effective in enabling java access bridge.
I participated in an access bridge discussion in the past on this list. Apparently no one knows why java access bridge is not fully installed by the java installers. Not sure who is developing java now but no one has seen fit to write me back with answers to my questions about this.
Pete







Re: importing my favourites help?

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Sounds good to me, let me play with it and if I run into problems I’ll let you guys know.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction.

 

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: March-10-16 6:55 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] importing my favourites help?

 

Open Internet explorer and then open the file menu.  Look through the items and you will find an item that says import and export.

Press enter.

I don't know how much further instruction you may need but it is a wizard or it is like a wizard and you can look around and work through it. 

 

When you first open it, you are in a list of radio buttons.  Down arrow to export to a file then tab through the dialog to find the next buttton.  I can go through the entire procedure if necessary but you may not need further help. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:20 PM

Subject: [nvda] importing my favourites help?

 

Hi guys before I retire my windows 7 laptop how can I export my internet explorer favourites and transfer them to my windows 10 laptop?  Obviously I need a thumb drive and I have one but what do I do, can anyone give me steps on how to.

Regards

Zoe


Re: importing my favourites help?

Gene
 

Open Internet explorer and then open the file menu.  Look through the items and you will find an item that says import and export.
Press enter.
I don't know how much further instruction you may need but it is a wizard or it is like a wizard and you can look around and work through it. 
 
When you first open it, you are in a list of radio buttons.  Down arrow to export to a file then tab through the dialog to find the next buttton.  I can go through the entire procedure if necessary but you may not need further help. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] importing my favourites help?

Hi guys before I retire my windows 7 laptop how can I export my internet explorer favourites and transfer them to my windows 10 laptop?  Obviously I need a thumb drive and I have one but what do I do, can anyone give me steps on how to.

Regards

Zoe


Re: Antivirus

 

http://home.sophos.com



Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hi, Did you used the classic or the studio version? Also which one is accessible with NVDA or Jaws? I'm downloading it right now.


Re: importing my favourites help?

 

Zoe,

         You will need some external media whether an SD card or a USB jump drive.  Whatever can be plugged in to both computers.

Here are the steps, presuming IE 11 on both sides:

On the "old computer side":

  1. Open IE 11, File Menu, Import and Export Option.
  2. In Import/Export Settings dialog select the "Export to a file" radio button, then hit the Next button at the bottom of the dialog.
  3. The "What would you like to export?" step comes next.  Check whichever of the checkboxes you wish.  Favorites are, of course, one of the checkboxes.  Hit the Next button at the bottom of the dialog.
  4. The next step asks you where you'd like to export from.  I never touch this as it uses the default location for favorites to export from.  Hit the Next button.
  5. The next step asks where you want to save the exported bookmarks.  The default will be your documents folder in a file called bookmark.html.  If you wish to browse for another location and/or specify a different file name hit the Browse button and do so.  I generally go with the default and hit the Export button on the bottom of this dialog.
  6. The Favorites will Export (unless something goes wrong) and you'll be presented with another dialog with the Finish button. Hit it.
  7. Copy or cut the bookmark.html file from your documents folder and save it on your external media.

On the "new computer" side, insert the external media you've copied the bookmarks.html file on to in the new computer.

  1. Open IE11, File Menu, Import and Export Option.
  2. In Import/Export Settings dialog select the "Import from a file" radio button, then hit the Next button at the bottom of the dialog.
  3. The next step asks what you'd like to import.  Presuming you're only doing Favorites check the Favorites checkbox.  Hit the Next button.
  4. The next dialog asks where you'd like to import the Favorites from.  Here you will hit the browse button and then navigate to the external media where your bookmark.html is located, select it, then hit the Open button.  This will place the full path to that file in the dialog text box so you can now hit the Next button.
  5. The next step asks you where you'd like to import to.  I never touch this as it uses the default location for favorites.  Hit the Import button.
  6. The final dialog should tell you that you've successfully imported and there is a Finish button at the bottom of the dialog.  Hit this.
  7. You're done, and should have your favorites in IE on your new machine.

Brian


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Gene
 

Firefox doesn't have a run option.  Download the file, find it and press enter as you would run any file.  If you have NVDA installed, Windows should know what to do and the installer should start.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] where is user config for add-ins?

Well Brian, that is just my problem.

I would rather use the more direct method but my system isn't asking if I want to save or run download. I have tried to find where to change this so it will give the option to run but I guess my brain is not working right now.

In trying to use the other method it says to save the package to the user config folder under NVDA.  I can't find that folder.  I see a system config folder but no user config.

I am running NVDA 2016.1 under windows 10 on a very fast laptop.  Iam running the newest firefox as my browser.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/10/2016 4:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian



Re: Antivirus

 

can I get the link to that download of the antivirus program?

On 3/7/2016 5:33 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
I am using sophus and after a bit of a shaky start I now have it on 3 of my many computers and it is Ok seems to be fully accessible. I admit I have not looked around to see what the ratings are like but I might now that I have thought about it.

On 07/03/2016 12:11, Gene wrote:
There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow things down. Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people should read about the subject. When Kim Komando recommends that people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well, that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration.

With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many programs.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible
the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use something else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,
and what it is. I believe that those considering using the program should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version) accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert
dialogs and settings windows.








Re: importing my favourites help?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Zoe,

I'll ask my nephew Adrian for you. I've never imported all my stuff from an
old computer to a new one but I'll ask him for you.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:21 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] importing my favourites help?

Hi guys before I retire my windows 7 laptop how can I export my internet
explorer favourites and transfer them to my windows 10 laptop? Obviously I
need a thumb drive and I have one but what do I do, can anyone give me steps
on how to.
Regards
Zoe


importing my favourites help?

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi guys before I retire my windows 7 laptop how can I export my internet explorer favourites and transfer them to my windows 10 laptop?  Obviously I need a thumb drive and I have one but what do I do, can anyone give me steps on how to.

Regards

Zoe


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

 

Postscript:  The exact same technique worked just fine for my portable copy of NVDA, too.  I have a different voice and verified that the add-on is indeed resident in the user config folder where NVDA places it as part of the install process that is on my removable media.  It is not necessary for the NVDA user to deal with the user config folder at all in relation to installing an add-on.

Brian


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

 

Dan,

           I believe we're "talking past each other" and you're making this harder on yourself than it need be.  I will step by step you through downloading and installing the OCR add-on.  The following presumes that NVDA is already running and will stay so throughout the process.

  1. Navigate to the NVDA community add-ons page, find the OCR add-on link, and click it to get to that add-on webpage.
  2. On the OCR add-on web page, there is a download link for the latest version of the add-on, at this point in time that's version 0.20120529.01.  Click on that link.
  3. When the Save As dialog comes up, navigate to wherever you wish to save the add-on file.  I saved mine to desktop.  (The OCR add-on is about 70 MB in size and takes a while to complete downloading).
  4. Open the folder where you saved the add-on file by whatever technique you prefer and select the add-on file you downloaded.
  5. Hit Enter.  A dialog from NVDA comes up asking if you're really sure you want to install the add-on.  Hit the Yes button.
  6. Wait for the installing add-on progress dialog to complete.  NVDA will then pop up a dialog stating that the add-on has been installed and must be restarted to take effect and asking if you'd like to restart now.  Hit the Yes button.  You will then hear the NVDA shutting down chimes followed immediately by the NVDA starting up chimes.
  7. NVDA now has the add-on installed and ready for use.

If you wish to verify that OCR is installed bring up the NVDA context menu, choose Tools, then choose Manage Add-Ons.  You will be presented with a dialog listing all the add-ons you have installed and OCR should be in that list.

Brian


Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Dan Beaver
 

Well Brian, that is just my problem.

I would rather use the more direct method but my system isn't asking if I want to save or run download. I have tried to find where to change this so it will give the option to run but I guess my brain is not working right now.

In trying to use the other method it says to save the package to the user config folder under NVDA.  I can't find that folder.  I see a system config folder but no user config.

I am running NVDA 2016.1 under windows 10 on a very fast laptop.  Iam running the newest firefox as my browser.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/10/2016 4:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian



Re: where is user config for add-ins?

Dan Beaver
 

Nope, I am running an installed NVDA.  I don't use portable versions.

Thanks though,

Dan Beaver

On 3/10/2016 5:08 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
This seems to only work for an installed version of nvda. If you are just running a portable copy on a machine which doesn't have nvda installed, then you'll need to use the longer way to install.

Roger








On 3/10/2016 3:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,


         I've followed either of the installation instruction techniques noted at the beginning of the NVDA Community Add-Ons Website.  The second paragraph on that page gives a pretty clear set of steps for both techniques.  You have to download the add-in and save it to a location of your choice as the first step.  If you want to use the NVDA Add-Ons Manager that's under the NVDA Context Menu, Tools, Manage Add-Ons.  If you want to use the "select and hit return" that simply requires NVDA to be running once you have the add-on file selected and hit return to install it NVDA starts asking the questions from there.  I find the latter method preferable.

         I have never had to concern myself with where the add-on file that I download is located before installing it.

Brian




Re: accessible version of Seamonkey?

Dan B Dyer Jr\Danny <ddyer1@...>
 

Hank, did u get the box?&are u ok with its' contents? Dd

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2016, at 4:55 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

will the free version work for uninstalling 64 bit programs? if not what is a good program that is simular to revo uninstaller
that will work on 64 bit programs?
thanks
Hank

On 3/5/2016 6:10 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue. I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
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Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

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Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>