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NVDA modifier key and Words+ EZ Keys

Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...>
 

I am a long time single switch scanning user of Word+ EZ Keys. I’m trying to also use NVDA for screen reader capabilities. My problem is using the NVDA modifier key from my scanning software. There is no direct way to “hold down” the Insert or Capslock from EZ Keys. I am trying to use Autohotkeys to simulate holding down the Insert, but the key doesn’t work once I load NVDA.


Does anyone have suggestions for remapping the NVDA modifier key to something like Alt-0 or something?

 

Thanks!

 

Darren Gabbert
Sr. Business Operations Associate
Adaptive Computing Technology Center
University of Missouri Division of IT
N-17 Memorial Union
Columbia, MO 65211
Phone: (573) 673-5629
Fax:  (314) 594-9909
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NVDA and gold wave

Kerryn Gunness
 


hi group
 
gold wave and NVDA add ons
 
1. how to get the time in the selection
2. how to get the time where the start marker is at
3. how to get the time where the finish marker is at
4. does it have tutorial with gold wave with NVDA
thanks
 
kerryn
 


Re: trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Gene,


Okay thank you for the clarification and I should have done that as well.  Oops!



On 8/1/2019 2:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I was addressing anyone following the thread.  A lot of people don't know about the importance of getting verification when discussing a problem.  For that reason, I'm saying that when people report bugs or performance problems, they should make such a statement so those who don't know won't reach a conclusion.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Hello Gene,


Thank you for the explanation however, I am very familiar with beta testing.



On 8/1/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that a report from one user may be correct for that user but it may not match others' experience.  That's why beta testing is done with a large number of different machines.  When discussing problems such as possible bugs or related to performance, verification is needed from many users to determine if this is a general problem. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
------ Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Scott Berry wrote:

> 2.  I also notice that NVDA at this point much prefers Google Chrome over any
> browser.  I tried Microsoft Edge and Firefox and neither read appropriately
> when accessing elements such as headings and lists, and other important
> attributes on a web page.

I find that statement to be utterly contradictory to over a half decade of
experience with NVDA.

Can you provide specific examples--sites to try, steps to follow, to
demonstrate?

Luke



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weird thing w/NVDA & Firefox on camp nanowrimo site

Jackie
 

Last night I was attempting to help a friend validate her novel on the
camp nanowrimo site. When I went to the site logged in w/my
credentials, the validate project button was there, & validation was a
breeze. When viewing the site w/her credentials, it wasn't anywhere to
be seen. For the halibut, I decided to print out the webpage using
Kurzweil's virtual printer, & there appeared to be a validate project
box at the bottom. Again, for the halibut, I went to Firefox's view
menu, &, instead of the basic style view, I selected 'no style', &,
indeed, the word count validator appeared at the bottom of the page.
Since it was after midnight her time, & that would cause any
submission not to be valid, I'm not sure this was really a valid
control or some sort of phantom. It did appear to be able to be
interacted with, but I never did get any validation of the submission.

I guess I'm just wondering:
a) Has anyone else had this experience? &
b) Could anyone explain why NVDA would spot this on the 'no style'
view & not the basic style view?

I can provide the source, but I'm not seeing anything there that would
hide it from NVDA. I guess I'm just submitting this to alert the
developers as well as giving folk something to try when sites don't
work as expected. The same site, using 2 different credentials,
though, still looks very different, & it's hard to figure out why, ie,
you would think the place to validate a project would be similarly
located for everyone.



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Re: trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Gene
 

I was addressing anyone following the thread.  A lot of people don't know about the importance of getting verification when discussing a problem.  For that reason, I'm saying that when people report bugs or performance problems, they should make such a statement so those who don't know won't reach a conclusion.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Hello Gene,


Thank you for the explanation however, I am very familiar with beta testing.



On 8/1/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that a report from one user may be correct for that user but it may not match others' experience.  That's why beta testing is done with a large number of different machines.  When discussing problems such as possible bugs or related to performance, verification is needed from many users to determine if this is a general problem. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
------ Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Scott Berry wrote:

> 2.  I also notice that NVDA at this point much prefers Google Chrome over any
> browser.  I tried Microsoft Edge and Firefox and neither read appropriately
> when accessing elements such as headings and lists, and other important
> attributes on a web page.

I find that statement to be utterly contradictory to over a half decade of
experience with NVDA.

Can you provide specific examples--sites to try, steps to follow, to
demonstrate?

Luke



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Re: trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Hi Luke,


My particular system doesn't seem to like either browser.  It's not a matter of certain sites it says it doesn't like any of them from those browsers.  I can't answer why other than to say that it's aweful crazy.


Re: trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Hello Gene,


Thank you for the explanation however, I am very familiar with beta testing.



On 8/1/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that a report from one user may be correct for that user but it may not match others' experience.  That's why beta testing is done with a large number of different machines.  When discussing problems such as possible bugs or related to performance, verification is needed from many users to determine if this is a general problem. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
------ Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Scott Berry wrote:

> 2.  I also notice that NVDA at this point much prefers Google Chrome over any
> browser.  I tried Microsoft Edge and Firefox and neither read appropriately
> when accessing elements such as headings and lists, and other important
> attributes on a web page.

I find that statement to be utterly contradictory to over a half decade of
experience with NVDA.

Can you provide specific examples--sites to try, steps to follow, to
demonstrate?

Luke



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Re: trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Gene
 

It is important to keep in mind that a report from one user may be correct for that user but it may not match others' experience.  That's why beta testing is done with a large number of different machines.  When discussing problems such as possible bugs or related to performance, verification is needed from many users to determine if this is a general problem. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
------ Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Scott Berry wrote:

> 2.  I also notice that NVDA at this point much prefers Google Chrome over any
> browser.  I tried Microsoft Edge and Firefox and neither read appropriately
> when accessing elements such as headings and lists, and other important
> attributes on a web page.

I find that statement to be utterly contradictory to over a half decade of
experience with NVDA.

Can you provide specific examples--sites to try, steps to follow, to
demonstrate?

Luke




Re: trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Scott Berry wrote:

2.  I also notice that NVDA at this point much prefers Google Chrome over any browser.  I tried Microsoft Edge and Firefox and neither read appropriately when accessing elements such as headings and lists, and other important attributes on a web page.
I find that statement to be utterly contradictory to over a half decade of experience with NVDA.

Can you provide specific examples--sites to try, steps to follow, to demonstrate?

Luke


TTS punctuation pauses

Dark Count
 

Could somebody please tell me where to find the setting to change the length a punctuation will cause the TTS to pause?

I seem to remember there was a way to control the length of pauses somewhere.


Thanks,


D C


trouble with menus and html links not working correctly

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Hello everyone,


Just wanted to update everyone on this issue.


1.  Gene was correct if you go to the Task bar and go to the Notification are and then press the spacebar on the Notification button and arrow down and in my case to the right to NVDA I was able to access the menus according to this method.


2.  I also notice that NVDA at this point much prefers Google Chrome over any browser.  I tried Microsoft Edge and Firefox and neither read appropriately when accessing elements such as headings and lists, and other important attributes on a web page.


This is just an update as I progress through my day.  I also recommend using Google Chrome if you are going to visit my site at the end of my signature.



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Re: begin and end links with braille display

Luke Davis
 

How do other screen readers handle this?

On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, Josh Kennedy wrote:

When I am reading websites in braille with my orbit reader20 and NVDA, and I encounter a link, NVDA puts lnk before the link, but there is nothing to
indicate when, and where, the link has ended and normal text resumes. Furthermore, when the link ends, there is no space between words. I would like to see
a choice of how links are displaysed in braille. Either begin and end web-links indicators, this includes visited and other types of links, or have a choice
to underline the whole link using dots-7-and-8. But there should be an alternative for six-dot displays such as the braille me which cannot use dots 7 and 8
to underline links, so there should be a method to indicate where the link begins or starts at, and where it ends, and normal text continues.


Re: Setting global speech rate across various profiles

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

You're welcome Marcio, glad I got there in the end with my explanation!
Re the User Guide, in the section on Configuration Profiles: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#ConfigurationProfiles
It does say: "A configuration profile contains only those settings which are changed while the profile is being edited. "
But I appreciate that sentence is more obvious and makes more sense once you already know what it means and is easy to skip over initially (especially as
only a couple of lines into that section.
It needs a "for example" appendage, perhaps containing some version of what you posted here about synth parameters.

Luke


code factory voices addon

mattias
 

Wonder when the codefactory addon will be compatible with NVDA with python3?

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Re: trouble with NVDA Menu and content being correctly formatted on web pages

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Marcio,


I think the logs will speak volumes about what's happening here.



On 8/1/2019 12:02 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Scott,
When doing a Windows B I was unable to find the NVDA icon at all. This might be another symptom of the problem.
As Gene suggested it may be that your Systray isn't showing all icons. Have you clicked the Notification Chevron before trying to find the NVDA icon?

Now, to the NVDA Menu. Using older versions of NVDA, I'd have this problem of not being able to access the menu with the keystroke. Even activating the icon on the systay woldn't work.
Usually, restarting NVDA a few good times would solve the problem until the next time which wouldn't take much time to come. So yeah it definitely will help to know which version of NVDA you are using right now.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

Kerryn Gunness
 

i use NVDA with you tube and i normally get the skip add button by pressing b
but sometimes it does not have a skip add button

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube


Hi. Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button on youtube could be read by NVDA. Now however, the newer versions of NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable". It is rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable" button immediately above the slider to activate it. The "Skip ad" button is still recognized by JFW as usual. Perhaps I am missing something? Just letting the NVDA team know. Cheers!



Working with NVDA and LastPass in Chrome Browser

Sam Bushman
 

Hi All,

 

How can we access the LastPass Icon with NVDA? Is there a hot key or a way to interact with lastpass?

 

Thanks so much,

Sam

 


Monthly Group Rules Reminder for the NVDA Group (nvda@nvda.groups.io)

nvda@nvda.groups.io Group Moderators <nvda@...>
 

This is the NVDA Group Monthly Reminder Notice, which is meant to re-emphasize the NVDA Group Rules.

The central purpose of the NVDA Group is discussing how to use NVDA, either configuring NVDA's settings or familiarizing oneself with its modes and commands.  Discussions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, NVDA tutorials and documentation, and configuring synthesizers or Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted.  Like all screen readers, it is a tool for accessing something else, and really serves no other purpose.  Its function as an accessibility tool is, of course, its reason for being.

It is presumed that the majority of members will be using NVDA, and possibly other screen readers, as part of their daily routine.  This being the case, before you post a message you have to consider whether the question you are about to ask is actually about NVDA itself, or about the program you’re using it to access.  Questions of the form, How do I use . . . with NVDA?, are very seldom about NVDA, but are almost always about the program being accessed with NVDA.

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Before choosing where to post, please ask yourself the question, “Is what I’m about to ask or offer directly related to controlling or using NVDA, or whether a specific program is accessible with NVDA?”  If that can be answered, “Yes,” then post to the NVDA Group, and if the answer is, “No,” then the topic belongs in the NVDA Chat Subgroup.

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Re: Character Information: What a godsend!

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Christo,


Would you please contact me off list? I'd like to learn how to creat LibLouis tables, so that additional languages can see the light of NVDA. My skype and my twitter are the same. BlindBirder.


Ben

On 7/31/2019 0:01, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hello all

I echo those sentiments. I also read a lot of linguistics-related material, but I am also in the process of creating a new translation table for LibLouis for my language and this add-on is absolutely invaluable for reading Unicode braille characters. I don't know how I would have managed it without the add-on. A million thanks for it and also to the author of the Unicode braille input add-on which is a miracle.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2019/07/31 06:19AM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
Hey all,


One of the newest add-ons for NVDA, created by Cyrille G. is an absolute godsend to me. I'm a language freak/geek, so Unicode values are part of my daily life. If I ever come upon a character which I don't know about, I press numpad 2 or NVDA+comma four times, and I'm in like flint! Merci beaucoup!


Ben






Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

Quentin Christensen
 

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,


What I've faced so far?


If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.


Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






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