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Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

Arlene
 

Sometimes I do see skip add button.  It doesn’t matter what screen reader I use. 

 

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From: Gene
Sent: August 2, 2019 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!



 

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Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

 


Re: NVDA and gold wave

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks all
 

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Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and gold wave

With the Goldwave add on running, these are announced automatically. When you set the start and end markers, the time is announced and if you pause playback, the time where the play position is will be announced.
Roger











On 8/1/2019 4:01 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi group
 
gold wave and NVDA add ons
 
1. how to get the time in the selection
2. how to get the time where the start marker is at
3. how to get the time where the finish marker is at
4. does it have tutorial with gold wave with NVDA
thanks
 
kerryn
 



Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

Gene
 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 


Re: Is there a way to set NVDA 2019.2-RC1 to exit focus mode in Skype?

John Isige
 

Yeah. And I can do that, but in 2019.1 it just did that by itself. Like I said, it's a small enough change that I'm sure I'll get used to, but right now I keep hitting the arrows out of habit and then go "oh yeah, I gotta hit NVDA-space, that's why nothing's working". So it would just be nice if I didn't have to do that.

On 8/2/2019 1:21, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


All I do is just change it to browse mode if it doesn't go in straight away, so then I can jump around it like a web page.


Gene NZ


On 2/08/2019 5:47 PM, John Isige wrote:
Unchecking "enable browse mode on page load" doesn't seem to do
anything. Well, the arrows will move the cursor, but only within a
block. So if I'm on a message it will move within that message, but if I
get to the edit field it will only move in that. I still have to hit
NVDA-space to get the arrows to move through all of Skype normally. This
is Skype 8 desktop, specifically Skype 8.50. It's not a big deal if
there's no way to change it, it's just annoying because it's something i
have to stop and do every time I open skype for the first time after I boot.


On 8/1/2019 3:19, Luke Davis wrote:
Have you tried setting up a config profile, triggered by Skype, that
does one of the following:

* Is saved with browse mode off, so when it triggers browse mode will
alrady be off; or
* Has the "Enable browse mode on page load" option disabled?

If a configuration profile will hold either the browse mode state, or
that option, that should be a good solution for you.

Luke

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, John Isige wrote:

So I asked about this Skype issue and Joseph was right. If you hit
NVDA-space, it takes NVDA out of focus mode and you can arrow through
Skype controls as usual. What's interesting is that it seems to be
preserved until restart. That is, when I first get into Skype I have
to hit NVDA-space, but once I've done that, it's set until I restart
NVDA, even if I close Skype and re-open it again, well, make it
minimize to the system tray or whatever it does.


So is there a way to set NVDA to not be in focus mode when I open
Skype? I don't know what changed between 2019.1 and 2019.2 so I don't
know what setting change(s) to make, or if it's even possible.






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Re: Progress beep

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Many thanks for your help.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dark Count
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress beep

 

Press NVDA U untill you hear no progress bar updates.

It is a cycle command so if you keep pressing it it will eventually circle to the setting where you started.

 

D C

 

On 8/2/2019 1:01 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to turn off NVDA progress beep as it is happening when I try to listen to an audio message sent by my daughter middle school.  It sure is annoying!

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


Re: Progress beep

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,
Thanks for your help.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress beep

Yes. NVDA+u. It will toggle between beeps, speech, and nothing, for progress
bar announcement.
That is also available under the object presentation settings.

You can save a configuration profile with this disabled for whatever app you
use to play your messages, if you want it always off in that application,
but on in other places.

Luke
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pascal Lambert wrote:


Hi,

Is there a way to turn off NVDA progress beep as it is happening when
I try to listen to an audio message sent by my daughter middle school.  It
sure is annoying!

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal




Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

With Edge dev and chrome probably, (I don't use Chrome so don't know for sure) The skip ad button is usually a clickable button that is not labeled, but with Firefox, you can get to it easily. I abandoned Google Music when they switched it to youtube

 music and lowered the quality of the music files.


When pointing to a line with the mouse, NVDA will stop reading at a link in the text. How overcome this?

J <helper01@...>
 

Often, I use the mouse and my limited sight, to just point at a paragraph or a line and NVDA will simply read that line or paragraph.
But unfortunately, if there is a link in that line or paragraph, NVDA just stops at that point in the text. Very problematic.. 
How do  I overcome this so that NVDA just keeps reading the paragraph or line I am pointing at with my mouse whether there is a link  integrated into the text or not?
Thank you so much! NVDA is such a blessing to my life and so many others I know.


google suite

Arlene
 

Hi List: Arlene here. I have a friend who uses a Mac computer.  She was placed with someone to create her own business.  This person does not know how to help her. He wanted her to use Google suite.  Now with NVDA or any screen reader can you use google suite?  If so, how accessible is it?  Thanks and have a good day.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

Arlene
 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 


Re: Progress beep

Luke Davis
 

Yes. NVDA+u. It will toggle between beeps, speech, and nothing, for progress bar announcement.
That is also available under the object presentation settings.

You can save a configuration profile with this disabled for whatever app you use to play your messages, if you want it always off in that application, but on in other places.

Luke

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to turn off NVDA progress beep as it is happening when I try to listen to an audio message sent by my daughter middle school.  It sure is
annoying!
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


Re: Progress beep

Dark Count
 

Press NVDA U untill you hear no progress bar updates.

It is a cycle command so if you keep pressing it it will eventually circle to the setting where you started.


D C


On 8/2/2019 1:01 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to turn off NVDA progress beep as it is happening when I try to listen to an audio message sent by my daughter middle school.  It sure is annoying!

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


Re: begin and end links with braille display

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

I prefer the Jaws dots 7 and 8 approach though I can usually tell where a link is from context, but also NVDA has a lot of weird indicators in places it shouldn't especially when using UEB. I'm pretty sure that some of these are LinLouis bugs, though and so I'm not sure what NVDA can do about them. What I don't understand is why 3 screen readers display the same braille slightly differently in some instances, when everyone is supposedly using the same libraries and the same braille tables. I can't imagine only having a 6-dot display though, as one of the things I like is the computer braille code, if I want to look at code. Or if I want to see how something is spelled because a translation table looks weird. How does the Braille Me handle things like that? If you have routing buttons, you could just click the one next to the lnk and that should get you focused on the link. Of course that doesn't work for things like Orbit Reader that have no routing buttons. I don't mind the lnk myself, as I rarely need to know exactly what's linked text from beginning to end, but MAYBE THIS IS TROUBLING FOR WEB DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING POSSIBLY, BUT i AM NOT SURE WHAT'S A GOOD SOLUTION. I usually use NVDA, just because it seems to be fairly responsive and isn't massively bloated and does what I need to do, but we should catalogue things we like and dislike from other products, just so everyone has the customizations they need. I don't know how narrator indicates links, as I prefer to work without speech and so I don't like having to twiddle braille drivers on and off, as that's very inconvenient, but I could check it.


Progress beep

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,

Is there a way to turn off NVDA progress beep as it is happening when I try to listen to an audio message sent by my daughter middle school.  It sure is annoying!

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


brltty and nvda and orbit reader?

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

I installed BRLTTY on android because I heard it has better accessibility than brailleback, and they are right. It does. BRLTTY autodetected the orbit reader. And it supports Japanese.

I hav some issues.

1. I cannot change the braille table to UEB grade2. When I select it, nothing changes.

2. for BRLTTY?

I try typing and it says wrong3. d selected. I went into languages and input, changed it to brltty keyboard and still when I try typing my phone berd and still when I try typing my phone beeps and I get an wrong input error on the display.

Can you please document how to use BRLTTY for android?

I also tried using BRLTTY with NVDA in windows 10 32bit. I chose autodetect, USB-bluetooth and hit OK. It also askd if I want to install some sort of drivers and I just said yes. I then chose BRLTTY under NVDA braille display and I get no braille output. BRLTTY will let me read Japanese braille if it is in the katakana alphabet. How do I fix this so I can get braille output from NVDA with brltty on orbit reader and also choose the right NVDA braille table from within NVDA itself and then how do I tell brltty to use its own table, like Japanese or ueb grade2?

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: Working with NVDA and LastPass in Chrome Browser

Mike Sedmak
 

The context key is also called the application key.
If you want to fill in login info use the application key when in edit
mode in the user id or password field, and look for the lastpass entry
in the context menu.

You can also generate a password by using the application key while in
edit mode for a password text box.

On 8/2/19, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you use the context key - when do you press it and where do you need
to be first?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with NVDA and LastPass in Chrome Browser

You can also get to the extension by using object navigation. Use F6 to get
to the address bar. Then use NVDA+NUmPad6 to move to the next object until
you find the "extensions grouping".
Use NVDA+NumPad2 to move into the grouping Then use NVDA+NUmPad6 to move to
the next item until you find the lastpass object.
Then use NVDA+NumPadEnter to activate the lastpass object.

That all said, most of the time the context menu is a much easier/faster way
of accessing lastpass functionality in the browser.

Mike

On 8/2/19, Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@gmail.com> wrote:
I've found that when working with most extensions, it's via the
context menu. Obviously that isn't always the case. For instance some
ad blockers require you to go into the browser's add-ons manager to
set their options.









Re: TTS punctuation pauses

Dark Count
 

I am using the Acapela hq voices.

And I have thus far not found any setting regarding reading pauses.


D C


On 8/2/2019 12:19 AM, Gene wrote:
Dark and all
 
I believe the setting is in the settings for the individual synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  What synthesizer are you using?
 
Gene.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] TTS punctuation pauses

Dark,
As far as I know there's not any such setting. I'll follow this thread though because I'd be interested on this as well :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: TTS punctuation pauses

Dark Count
 

Thanks Marsio.

I found apost on the archives from Steven Nut who mentioned acapela had this settings but sadly he did not report where they were to be found.

I am wondering if there is a dictionary somewhere or a config file in the innereds of NVDA one could change values in.


D C


On 8/2/2019 12:13 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Dark,
As far as I know there's not any such setting. I'll follow this thread though because I'd be interested on this as well :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: NVDA, beyond screen reading

Curtis Delzer
 

fantastic paper, and message, which I am keeping.

All I'd add is that not only reaper, (with peepers" is great, but if you need other solutions for audio which are very speech friendly, 4 other packages come to mind.

 From the American printing house, their house recorder is called "studio recorder," which has "audible peak meters" for audio input, all menus are accessible,

Gold Wave which I am sure most folks know about, a rather jack-of-all-trades simple editor,

Sound Forge which can do much with keyboard commands into about all functions,

and certainly not least for last in my recommendations is audacity, which is free but full of functional promise.

About any package depends on commitment to learn properly, and none are free but audacity, so there is that consideration too, but it is the joy of what you can accomplish, which is the fulfillment the author of this paper is talking about, which strikes me as the thing. With the help of NVDA, where is the limit?

As in musical talent come to fruition, as they do to accomplish Carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. :)

And as one of my favorite comics always says, "never give up, never give up, never give up. Truly!

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 7/25/2019 8:58 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi all. All of us use NVDA extensively for those basic computer tasks like emailing, word processing, surfing the web and so on. But there are some of you I'm sure who would like to do more with your pcs, in company with NVDA.  I'm sure that there are some among you, for example who would like to branch out, into something else you are really good at and make a decent living out of it.  like making music? music production? or programming? and why not?  NVDA has come a long way since it started way back years ago.  No more is it a screen reader that plays second fiddle to the more established JFW.  Window eyes has come and gone, unjustly consigned to the whims of Father Time.  But with the undaunting efforts of the main developers and the community, NVDA is now a formidable tool that can be employed for more serious pursuits like Music production and Computer Programming.  I want to concentrate however on music making because there are a lot of talented blind folks who would like to make music, perhaps as a hobby or as a form of livelihood but do not know how to go about it, and In particular, i want to sportlight Reaper, a most versatile Digital Audio Workstation (DAW), which also allows for MIDI recording..


You can get Reaper from its website,

http://reaper.fm/download.php

or download it here and install it as a fully functional trial,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zpw1xyen2ynbeay/reaper5981_x64-install.exe?dl=1

Then download and install Osara, an NVDA extension which enhances NVDA's capability to almost fully access the Reaper application.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zpw1xyen2ynbeay/reaper5981_x64-install.exe?dl=1

You have now got a computer which also acts as a music work station, allowing you to record and edit midi, as well as record and edit audio.  How cool is that?

As a demo to put forward my point, here's a piece of music I wrote for a school's music educational program and was paid for it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xcy5lhusgftiff/Kangaroo%20Playtime.mp3?dl=0

The music is not put here to show of my limited skill but rather to show you what you can do if you venture to use NVDA as broadly as you can and not limit it's limitless capabilities.

Now having turned your pc into a music work Station, Consult the Reaper wiki, at https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page and go make music.  You can also join the reaper mailing list for help and questions.  The address is listed on the wiki.


This is part  of a paper on Computer accessibility I was invited to present by our local I T government department to a group of blind and sighted university students a week ago.  I only included the music part of the presentation here as many blind people want to make something out of their music talent but don't know how. Hope the moderators won't mind.  Cheers!



Re: Working with NVDA and LastPass in Chrome Browser

Sam Bushman
 

How do you use the context key - when do you press it and where do you need to be first?

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with NVDA and LastPass in Chrome Browser

You can also get to the extension by using object navigation. Use F6 to get to the address bar. Then use NVDA+NUmPad6 to move to the next object until you find the "extensions grouping".
Use NVDA+NumPad2 to move into the grouping Then use NVDA+NUmPad6 to move to the next item until you find the lastpass object.
Then use NVDA+NumPadEnter to activate the lastpass object.

That all said, most of the time the context menu is a much easier/faster way of accessing lastpass functionality in the browser.

Mike

On 8/2/19, Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@gmail.com> wrote:
I've found that when working with most extensions, it's via the
context menu. Obviously that isn't always the case. For instance some
ad blockers require you to go into the browser's add-ons manager to
set their options.