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DECTalk speech
Don H
Is there a legal copy of Decktalk access 32 available for use with NVDA? I had a license for it when I used Window /Eyes and it was my favorite syn.
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Re: code factory voices addon
Josh Kennedy
but with jaws now you do not have to pay hundreds of dollars. you could choose to subscribe to jaws and get all voices and features plus 3 activations for $90 united states dollars per year.
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Re: code factory voices addon
Josh Kennedy
You are not required to purchase both sapi5 and the addon for $184. You can just buy the sapi5 voice and exclusively use that one. Or you can just buy the addon and just use that one. So, why did I personally decide to spend $184 on both the sapi5 and the addon you may ask? I spent the $184 so the sapi5 voices could stay permanently on my computer, but if I ever want to take NVDA with me to someone else's computer I can choose to do that just by making a portable copy of NVDA and putting it onto a flash drive with the codeFactory addon, while leaving my sapi5 voices behind. It is far easier to quickly run and register an addon rather than installing and uninstalling sapi5 voices on each computer I may go to. so the sapi5 voices remain stationary on my machine and my machine only. while the addon can come with me on a flash drive if I wish, use it on another machine then deactivate its license when I am done using it, like at a library.
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A Problem With NVDA and Firefox Add Ons Manager
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
I haven't checked my Firefox add ons manager in quite a while. When I inadvertently downloaded and installed an add on from the NFL schedule site and tried uninstalling it, I have found that the formerly accessible add ons manager is now in some sort of weird interface where you cannot highlight options to disable or uninstall the add on or extension. Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around of any kind? I am using Firefox latest build and NVDA 2019.1.1 -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: code factory voices addon
Josh Kennedy
I think he wants to know, what is the advantage of the addon versus the sapi5 speech synthesizer? the advantage of the addon is that if you frequently move from computer to computer and you take your screen reader with you on a flash drive, you can take your codeFactory voices with you on that same flash drive, run NVDA, temporarily register the voices on the machine you are working on and then deactivate your licenses when you are done.
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Re: Tor Browser once again becoming accessible with NVDA
As an aside, the Brave browser has an option to use Tor in its Private windows function. There's a straight private window and a private window with Tor, you use CTRL+SHIFT+N to invoke a straight private window and ALT+SHIFT+N to invoke a Private Window with Tor.
Since Brave is Chromium based, and there are folks here who've said they're using it, I can see nothing that would preclude using the Private Window with Tor just like a typical Brave window. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: braille on user account control screens?
David Csercsics
Yes, I did save the settings, and that was my concern, is that it saves the speech settings but doesn't give braille everywhere. I'll check and see what other screen readers do to work with this, but I was just thinking it possibly might be a problem for some.
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Re: code factory voices addon
Rui Fontes
Yes, one from CodeFactory and another, older, from Tiflotecnia.
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Best regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 02:21 de 03/08/2019, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:
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Re: code factory voices addon
Gene
The only reason you can use the voices without
paying in other screen-readers is that screen-readers use some of the profit
from selling their screen-reader to purchase licensing to use the voices.
Obviously, there is no money from profit for the developers of NVDA to pay the
company that produces the voices for licensing to use them. Compare the
price of other screen-readers with NVDA. Then compare the price of
purchasing the add-on or the SAPI version of the voices with that cost.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory voices addon >An add-on is what it says, an add-on. It isn't part of the >screen-reader. Many add-ons are free. People develop them as a >volunteer, non profit activity. That doesn't mean they all are. The >add-on for voices that charge for their use must be paid for, just as >the SAPI 5 voices you are discussing must be. they are for profit voices. >And if I want to develop an add-on and charge for my work, that would >be my decision. I can charge even if it all my original work. Agreed. However, I think it's excessive to have to purchase both the Vocalizer voices and the NVDA addon just to use those voices with NVDA. Thatt voice venture would set one back by $184. I understand rewarding people's work in creating addons that render previously inaccessible applications accessible. But if NVDA requires an addon to run voices that every other screen reader can run on the SAPI5 Vocalizer license, that's a fundamental design flaw in NVDA. Orlando Enrique Fiol
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Re: braille on user account control screens?
Brian Tew
Can't be done. I griped about this a while back.
I doubt anybody totally deafblind can use nvda.
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Re: code factory voices addon
What I like about the sapi version of any voice as supposed to a spaciffic product is you can only use that voice with that product. If its sapi, the user can use the voice however and where ever they wish within licencing limits of course but still. Often you don't need the voice. Ie, I use the voices I have for gaming, and book reading. In those situations I need a clearly understandable voice and not a crappy sounding one. Since I am allready running a program like a game that is probably using a lot of resources allready and have the power for the experience I don't mind as much and same with a book its easier on the ear with a good quality voice. Now, I wouldn't use a good quality voice for general use for the thing that its high quality and good sounding qualities have one issue. Its big and bulky, takes ages to load and hogs resources. A crappy, but clear voice which sounds like utter crap but has high responce and low cpu and memmory usage is needed like espeak which will read things to me that are not books or games and all I want is to understand what I am reading but the content is less important. I have b een in a situation where that oh so cool voice and whatever I read used a lot of power. Because I hated the crappy voices that came with one of my other readers at the time I used a high quality voice. The system became slow and unresponsive and I had to be carefull of what I loaded. One thing I do think is that the blind forget that just because a program is not in its own window you will have to treat it as such. So my synthesiser is a window, and nvda is a program and a window taking up resources. Every time I work on a sightling's system and their system has issues, I have to remember to see how many programs they can run at once, then minus my screen reader and maybe my synth if its high enough from them.
On 3/08/2019 5:10 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube
I am unsure about a youtube search. If its someone's channel you are going to. usually once I put /videos or playlists at the end of the url I can find the stuff I want to play. I use pontes media downloader from http://scripts.pontesgames.ro to convert all my videos to mp3 which are huge like game streams and even mp3 music and free to watch lists. So I avoid adds that way. The youtube interface has become a bit slow, crashy and troublesom. As for the user saying that they seem to have only 1 sponsor I am not surprised. Youtube has had recently had to pull back on their openness of their add system after someone hacked the add system and took control of it. It wasn't to bad but the fact they were able to do it and potentially do bad things to people, including but not limited to put fake scarey videos up on youtube, then quietly kill themselves so they couldn't be traced is a thing to be feared. Those people havn't got caught. Its not that bad of an attack per say but google is one of those big companies and for them to get compromised even in that small way is quite bad reputation wize. In the wake of this a lot of people pulled out of youtube adds. Its good revenue for local content though.
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Tor Browser once again becoming accessible with NVDA
Perry Simm
Hi!
Just thought I'd let you know that the current alpha of the Tor Browser is accessible, that is, browse mode is working again. Keep in mind that using an alpha version may expose you to some risks depending on what you are doing. So if it's anything mission-critical, better wait for the stable release. Cheers Perry
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Re: code factory voices addon
Ed Marquette
Orlando:
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I think you are confused and are asking a question of the wrong group. NVDA and NV Access are separate from Code Factory. Code Factory has chosen to license and then sub license Eloquence and Vocalizer voices either as universal products, i.e., that work with any screen reader or in a less expensive version that works only with NVDA. That is not a design flaw in NVDA. You get Vocalizer and Eloquence free with JAWS, BUT ONLY after you have paid several hundred dollars (or other currency equivalent) for JAWS itself. Remember, with Code Factory’s Eloquence and Vocalizer add-in, one has to be an administrator to run it, something few corporations will allow. That too is not an NVDA flaw. That’s a Code Factory design flaw.
On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io <ofiol@...> wrote:
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Re: code factory voices addon
Hello, The NVDA add-on for the Vocalizer voices and their SAPI5 variants are separate things/products. You can use either one or the other. You don't need to buy both, to be able to use the Vocalizer voices with NVDA. If you buy the NVDA add-on, you can use them only with NVDA. If you buy the SAPI5 variant, you can use them with any program that supports SAPI5, including NVDA, without the need to pay extra to use them with NVDA.______ На 3.8.2019 г. в 8:36, Orlando Enrique
Fiol via Groups.Io написа:
At 01:32 AM 8/3/2019, Gene wrote:
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Re: code factory voices addon
Orlando Enrique Fiol
At 01:32 AM 8/3/2019, Gene wrote:
An add-on is what it says, an add-on. It isn't part of theAgreed. However, I think it's excessive to have to purchase both the Vocalizer voices and the NVDA addon just to use those voices with NVDA. Thatt voice venture would set one back by $184. I understand rewarding people's work in creating addons that render previously inaccessible applications accessible. But if NVDA requires an addon to run voices that every other screen reader can run on the SAPI5 Vocalizer license, that's a fundamental design flaw in NVDA. Orlando Enrique Fiol
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Re: code factory voices addon
Gene
An add-on is what it says, an add-on. It
isn't part of the screen-reader. Many add-ons are free. People
develop them as a volunteer, non profit activity. That doesn't mean they
all are. The add-on for voices that charge for their use must be paid for,
just as the SAPI 5 voices you are discussing must be. they are for profit
voices.
And if I want to develop an add-on and charge for
my work, that would be my decision. I can charge even if it all my
original work.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory voices addon >Other screen-reader companies purchase the licensing to use the >voices. NVDA is a free screen-reader. The user purchases his/her own >license. A screen-reader and the synthesizer are separate products. I have no issue paying for the SAPI5 Vocalizer voices.. According to your logic, my purchase buys me a license that I can use with any screen reader. So, why the $69 for the NVDA addon? Orlando Enrique Fiol
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Re: braille on user account control screens?
Luke Davis
Do you have your current braille configuration saved in the administrative config of NVDA?
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Luke
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, David Csercsics wrote:
Is there a way to get NVDA to read user account control screens with a braille display? It works on the log on screen, but the UAC prompts just show up as "Secure Desktop" in braille. So I have to pick up my keyboard and speech for that. Not a huge deal for me personally, but someone needing braille only would run into trouble unless I miss something.
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Re: code factory voices addon
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Hi Gene.
Other screen-reader companies purchase the licensing to use theI have no issue paying for the SAPI5 Vocalizer voices.. According to your logic, my purchase buys me a license that I can use with any screen reader. So, why the $69 for the NVDA addon? Orlando Enrique Fiol
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Re: code factory voices addon
Gene
Other screen-reader companies purchase the
licensing to use the voices. NVDA is a free screen-reader. The user
purchases his/her own license. A screen-reader and the synthesizer are
separate products.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory voices addon for the "privilege" of using paid Vocalizer voices that work as a SAPI5 TTS for all other screen readers! Can someone explain that logic to me? . Orlando Enrique Fiol Ph.D. in Music Theory University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018 Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue Home: (980) 585-1516 Mobile: (267) 971-7090 Email: ofiol@...
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