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Re: What Has Happened To NFL.com?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

OK, I forgot to mention that this difficulty is happening using NVDA 2019.1.1 with Firefox latest build on Windows 10 64 bit and 1903 version.

On 8/4/2019 10:23 AM, Don H wrote:
works fine on my laptop using the 2019-2 rc1 version of NVDA using google chrome as my browser

On 8/4/2019 9:03 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi group,

Well, it's football time again here in the US (that's American football of course--not what we here in the states call soccer.)  So I have been trying to access the NFL website at http://www.nfl.com.

I haven't visited it much for the past several months.  When trying to access it today, I see it has become almost inaccessible.  It is very sluggish, items clicked on don't respond or if they d it's many seconds after clicking.

Has anyone else experienced this on the NFL website?  I know it has been going down hill for the past several years beginning with the virtually inaccessible NFL Field Pass restructuring of 2016.  I tried notifying the NFL management about this via their e-mail links and even by phone calls to their New York City headquarters and received no response at all (and yes I was assertive but polite.)

Thanks for any input on this issue.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: CodeFactory eloquence and vocalizer licenses

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

 How much did you pay for the voices 



On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 7:57 PM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Hi,

Well that was pretty fast! All 3 licenses arrived this morning united states eastern standard time. So now I have registered legal copies of sapi5 eloquence, sapi5 vocalizer, and a license for the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon and everything is working good. I set my default voice to eloquence. And my pluggable USB Bluetooth combo keyboard also shipped. Maybe it will be better than the cheap keyboard you get with this $110 windows 10 home 32 bit tablet. Well it is a $110 tablet so you can’t expect much at that price point. But then I’ll have a Bluetooth USB keyboard to use with the tablet, android phone, and iPod touch and iPad when I get those. I found out I can save $50 on iPads if I get them off amazon or Walmart.

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


--
Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


CodeFactory eloquence and vocalizer licenses

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

Well that was pretty fast! All 3 licenses arrived this morning united states eastern standard time. So now I have registered legal copies of sapi5 eloquence, sapi5 vocalizer, and a license for the eloquence vocalizer NVDA addon and everything is working good. I set my default voice to eloquence. And my pluggable USB Bluetooth combo keyboard also shipped. Maybe it will be better than the cheap keyboard you get with this $110 windows 10 home 32 bit tablet. Well it is a $110 tablet so you can’t expect much at that price point. But then I’ll have a Bluetooth USB keyboard to use with the tablet, android phone, and iPod touch and iPad when I get those. I found out I can save $50 on iPads if I get them off amazon or Walmart.

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: What Has Happened To NFL.com?

Don H
 

works fine on my laptop using the 2019-2 rc1 version of NVDA using google chrome as my browser

On 8/4/2019 9:03 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi group,
Well, it's football time again here in the US (that's American football of course--not what we here in the states call soccer.)  So I have been trying to access the NFL website at http://www.nfl.com.
I haven't visited it much for the past several months.  When trying to access it today, I see it has become almost inaccessible.  It is very sluggish, items clicked on don't respond or if they d it's many seconds after clicking.
Has anyone else experienced this on the NFL website?  I know it has been going down hill for the past several years beginning with the virtually inaccessible NFL Field Pass restructuring of 2016.  I tried notifying the NFL management about this via their e-mail links and even by phone calls to their New York City headquarters and received no response at all (and yes I was assertive but polite.)
Thanks for any input on this issue.


What Has Happened To NFL.com?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi group,

Well, it's football time again here in the US (that's American football of course--not what we here in the states call soccer.)  So I have been trying to access the NFL website at http://www.nfl.com.

I haven't visited it much for the past several months.  When trying to access it today, I see it has become almost inaccessible.  It is very sluggish, items clicked on don't respond or if they d it's many seconds after clicking.

Has anyone else experienced this on the NFL website?  I know it has been going down hill for the past several years beginning with the virtually inaccessible NFL Field Pass restructuring of 2016.  I tried notifying the NFL management about this via their e-mail links and even by phone calls to their New York City headquarters and received no response at all (and yes I was assertive but polite.)

Thanks for any input on this issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: code factory voices addon

Josh Kennedy
 

hi orlando, yes that is correct. sapi5 vocalizer works with NVDA. sapi5 eloquence also works with NVDA. the codeFactory NVDA vocalizer eloquence combo addon also of course works with NVDA. If you don't plan on moving frequently to different computers and taking NVDA with you on a flash drive, then I would just get the sapi5 vocalizer and sapi5 eloquence or whichever one you prefer. But it really is up to you and how much money you want to spend. You could just choose to spend $69 on the addon and just have the voices tied into NVDA. It is up to you. 


Re: DECTalk speech

Josh Kennedy
 

You could also do a google search for the flameOfHope website and the word decTalk. But due to the fact that the addons for decTalk floating around out there are kind of buggy as far as crashing and switching decTalk voices well I would really love to buy a decTalk 4.3 sapi5 and a decTalk 4.3 NVDA addon from codeFactory that is stable and works good. 


Re: DECTalk speech

Josh Kennedy
 

You have to email Roger dudly. He is the owner of speech-fx-inc owners of decTalk. Maybe they can partner with codeFactory and offer a couple versions of the older software decTalk for us to purchase. 


NVDA and Paragraph Settings in MS Word, Jarte too?

David Russell
 

Hello Group Members,

I am using the ribbon to establish my paragraph and font settings in
MS Word, linespacing also.
I use alt-o when in the document to open the ribbon and tab through
paragraph settings, selectin 0.5 inches left, 1 inch right.

When reading my document, is it automatic that after so many
sentences, I press enter, will a new paragraph begin at 0.5 inches?
NVDA does not always indicate the indent.

Is there a word or sentence minimum that determines if a block of text
is a paragraph?

How do I carry these paragraph settings over to Jarte?

Thanks for your input, much appreciated!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Mathematics in Microsoft Word

Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1@...>
 

Hi,

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 03:59:37 -0400
Bruno Aníbal Prieto González <brunoscuola@gmail.com> wrote:


I am writing to see if there is a way to improve the reading of
mathematics written with the Microsoft Word equation editor,

If you only need to read the best option is to convert the word
documents to LaTeX if you knew LaTeX that is. I am personally using GrindEQ
which isn't free. If you don't want to pay pandoc seems to be capable of
performing this conversion, however I haven't tried it myself.

--
Hope this helps
Lukasz


Re: Miranda and autoscroll

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Thanks for your reply.  TTS won't work for me unfortunately, I use a Braille display (my hearing doesn't allow me to follow using the speech synthesizer) so that reading message by message, as I wish, is a requirement.  But even with A TTS I guess you have some problems, sometimes you are typing and your recipient messages yor, the message gets interrupted because of your keyboard.  Or so I would think anyway!


I didn't know an issue had been opened (and seemingly fixed) regarding this problem.  I actually opened a new issue to report as accurately as possible the issue I'm facing.  We'll see.  As far as I know, there is some kind of accessibility improvement in the contact list (at least, there's a plugin that seems to be dedicated to accessibility in the contact list).  Don't know why, the contact list seemed fine to me, but perhaps I have selected this accessible plugin anyway.


We'll see what happens next!  Thanks for your message,

On 8/4/2019 6:07 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

Someone already filed this bug with Miranda NG. In their latest release notes, they say this is fixed, but it makes no difference to me because I use the TTS plugin that reads incoming chat messages. Unfortunately, this TTS plugin does not work for group Miranda NG chat rooms, just one on one.


Mathematics in Microsoft Word

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González
 

Hello!
I am writing to see if there is a way to improve the reading of
mathematics written with the Microsoft Word equation editor,
correcting some things, taking into account that even before the
support of Microsoft UI Automation for Word there was almost no
support for this function.
I offer money for this purpose, perhaps developing an add-on for NVDA
or the best alternative that exists.

I remain attentive to your comments, thank you very much in advance.


Re: google suite

Arlene
 

Thanks I’ll go and give it a try.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: August 3, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] google suite

 

I have heard of folks using NVDA and google docs, I am not sure about the spread sheet program. Except for the fact that Macintosh VoiceOver sometimes requires interact/stop interact in order to get to all web content, I can generally do Google things as well on the Macintosh with VoiceOver as I do on NVDA.

That being said the productivity ssuite provided by Apple is much easier to use than working with an online application.

I suggest you continue this conversation at macvisionaries@... or another Blind related Apple group.

Jonathan

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Arlene <nedster66@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:02 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] google suite

 

Hi List: Arlene here. I have a friend who uses a Mac computer.  She was placed with someone to create her own business.  This person does not know how to help her. He wanted her to use Google suite.  Now with NVDA or any screen reader can you use google suite?  If so, how accessible is it?  Thanks and have a good day.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: Miranda and autoscroll

 

Someone already filed this bug with Miranda NG. In their latest release notes, they say this is fixed, but it makes no difference to me because I use the TTS plugin that reads incoming chat messages. Unfortunately, this TTS plugin does not work for group Miranda NG chat rooms, just one on one.


Re: code factory voices addon

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi ☺ In my opinion I don’t want the extra cost of purchasing a screen reader. Although blindness agencies maybe able  help you obtain Jaws, it really depends on the situation.  

I love that NVDA is free and open source. It is nice, too,  that Freedom Scientific is offering annual subscriptions for those that  want that option.

You really get the best of both worlds here. On one hand you have the option of obtaining a wonderful free and open source screen reader. On the other hand, you have the option of paying for a yearly subscription for Jaws if you wish to do so.   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory voices addon

 

Hello Josh,

Yes, you can, but only if you are in the USA. We here in Bulgaria still have to pay over $1000 for JAWS plus $150 per each yearly SMA upgrade, if I'm not mistaking. And those high prices is one of the reasons for many JAWS users here in Bulgaria to switch to NVDA (I've done that switch to NVDA almost a decade ago). And no - we don't get the possibility to obtain JAWS via some sort of government funding for home use, unfortunately. Only some users are lucky enough to get it for their job and when they leave that respective job, JAWS remains property of the employer and not the user. Yes - stupid - I know, but that is how it is.

And Freedom Scientific/Vispero know that in countries like Bulgaria purchases of JAWS are very low due to the high prices and still refuse to provide the annual subscription variant to such countries. Stupid - isn't it (?). Because it is better to get $100 per year for each sold JAWS license, than to get $0 from each not sold permanent license (because almost nobody here in Bulgaria can afford such a $1000 license).

And I'll stop here with my rant. I just wanted such things to be clear, so people don't get confused from statements like yours Josh that anybody can get a cheap JAWS license.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 3.8.2019 г. в 17:20, Josh Kennedy написа:

but with jaws now you do not have to pay hundreds of dollars. you could choose to subscribe to jaws and get all voices and features plus 3 activations for $90 united states dollars per year. 


Re: google suite

Jonathan COHN
 

I have heard of folks using NVDA and google docs, I am not sure about the spread sheet program. Except for the fact that Macintosh VoiceOver sometimes requires interact/stop interact in order to get to all web content, I can generally do Google things as well on the Macintosh with VoiceOver as I do on NVDA.

That being said the productivity ssuite provided by Apple is much easier to use than working with an online application.

I suggest you continue this conversation at macvisionaries@... or another Blind related Apple group.

Jonathan

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Arlene <nedster66@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:02 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] google suite

 

Hi List: Arlene here. I have a friend who uses a Mac computer.  She was placed with someone to create her own business.  This person does not know how to help her. He wanted her to use Google suite.  Now with NVDA or any screen reader can you use google suite?  If so, how accessible is it?  Thanks and have a good day.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: code factory voices addon

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 10:15 AM 8/3/2019, Josh Kennedy wrote:
You are not required to purchase both sapi5 and the addon for $184.
You can just buy the sapi5 voice and exclusively use that one. Or you
can just buy the addon and just use that one.
If I understand correctly, though, the SAPI5 Vocalizer voices won't work with NVDA unless I purchase the addon as well. If they did, I'd simply purchase the SAPI5 license and use it everywhere.

So, why did I personally
decide to spend $184 on both the sapi5 and the addon you may ask? I
spent the $184 so the sapi5 voices could stay permanently on my
computer, but if I ever want to take NVDA with me to someone else's
computer I can choose to do that just by making a portable copy of
NVDA and putting it onto a flash drive with the codeFactory addon,
while leaving my sapi5 voices behind. It is far easier to quickly run
and register an addon rather than installing and uninstalling sapi5
voices on each computer I may go to. so the sapi5Â voices remain
stationary on my machine and my machine only. while the addon can come
with me on a flash drive if I wish, use it on another machine then
deactivate its license when I am done using it, like at a library.
I think I understand now. Are you saying that the SAPI5 voices will work with NVDA? Are you saying that thee NVDA addon only obviates the need to install each SAPI5 voice?

Orlando Enrique Fiol


Re: DECTalk speech

Sarah k Alawami
 

Waht bothers me is the copyright of theepage. It is 2013, so the copyright expired,sort of. Has this thign even ben updated to workwith nvda and python 3, I highly doubt it.

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On 3 Aug 2019, at 11:23, ely.r@... wrote:

Well, it would help if the URL was there, right?
http://www.speechfxinc.com/text-to-speech.html

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk speech

Roger,
Quick look online gave me this URL. Did not find just what you were hoping to find, but they may be able to point you in the right direction. Good luck with the, and if you find out, please share, Rick whoes doctora thesis was on writing with it compared to earlier synthesizers

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 1:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk speech

Yes, I'd be very interested in finding out if DecTalk can be used with nvda and the new Python version coming soon. I too find these kind of synths far superior to the natural sounding ones especially for reading fast. The natural sounding ones are great for casual novel reading but they just don't work well if sped up much.
Roger

On 8/3/2019 11:40 AM, David Csercsics wrote:

I'm not sure it is being developed anymore, but I'd get it for iOS as
well, because along with DoubleTalk and artic transport and accent sa,
it was a good synth. I don't like any of the human sounding synths and
even Espeak and eloquence have distortions and clipping and crackles
at high speed. I prefer braille, but when I use Speech I'd like it
speedy. Do let me know what you find.


Re: strange problem with NVDA

 

What happens if you try to fire up NVDA from its native folder under Program Files (x86)?

If it works from there, then this is a problem with the shortcut, which needs to be re-created.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


strange problem with NVDA

Diego Ricardo Matos <diegoricardomatosm4@...>
 

Hello guys!
My friend has a very strange problem with NVDA:
Pressing ctrl + alt + n or clicking on the desktop shortcut displays
the following error message:
the specified program requires a newer version of windows
NVDA has already been reinstalled, all program files and settings
deleted in% appdata% but nothing has changed.
It is running Windows 10, I don't know exactly, but at least it's
October 2018 and NVDA 2019.1.1.
What can be done?