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Re: NVDA add-on feature idea: Settings ring style option for Developer toolkit

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I’m fine just the way it works now.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy B.
Sent: Freitag, 9. August 2019 16:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-on feature idea: Settings ring style option for Developer toolkit

 

Hi,

 

I am curious, what would DTK users think about having a settings ring style option while using the add-on? My thought is this: When DTK features are enabled, pressing control+s turns on a settings ring style option where you could left/right arrow through the available settings. While on a setting such as detailed messages, pressing up/down arrow cycles through the available options. In the case of detailed messages, the options are enabled or disabled. Pressing control+s again will then turn the settings ring off, returning control back to other DTK features. Let me know what you think over the weekend. This will be another major undertaking because it will modify the entire infrastructure for the entire add-on.

 

Andy Borka

Accessibility advocate for blind and visually impaired software developers

Re: winamp

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I'm not quite sure what the issue is here.  If you run Winamp and press the keystroke insert + T, the title of the song and artist will be read as it appears in the tag editor. If the tags are blank, the file name will be read without the .mp3 or .wav extension.

On 8/9/2019 6:09 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

Good luck with that and if there ever is a way, please let us know? Thanks.

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On 8/9/2019 5:45 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

I am hoping to put a bug in the developers ears. I use to be able to do this in Jaws. I would love to be able to picture frame the track title and artist so that as the field changes it is automatically announced.

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*From: *Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
*Sent: *Friday, August 9, 2019 2:30 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] winamp

Hi,

My husband, Marcus is the real Winamp user and he said to his knowledge,

the answer to your question is no, but if there is a way, he'd love to know?

Lisa P. Geibel

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On 8/8/2019 12:32 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Is there anything I can do to get NVDA to announce the track title as
the songs change?
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Re: a question about attachments in Thunderbird

P. Otter
 

do as follows:
i've had the same problem.
solution
press alt o to open the message.
then press alt e
after that press e
than you see all the attachments.

cheers
paul otter


Op 9-8-2019 om 18:36 schreef Scott Berry:

Hello there,


I was wondering is there a setting in the Thunderbird or Mozilla add-on to turn on the attachments.  What I mean is I am not getting thrown in to the list of the attachments nor are they getting read.  Just wondering if there are some tweaks I can do to fix this or do I need to look at the add-on itself?


a question about attachments in Thunderbird

Scott Berry
 

Hello there,


I was wondering is there a setting in the Thunderbird or Mozilla add-on to turn on the attachments.  What I mean is I am not getting thrown in to the list of the attachments nor are they getting read.  Just wondering if there are some tweaks I can do to fix this or do I need to look at the add-on itself?



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Re: NVDA and Email Attachments?

 

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Unlocking Protected View, Got Answer!

David Russell
 

Hi all,

I found the answer to my question as how to unlock protected view in
EMail attachments.


With the document open, hit Alt F.
Tab until you get to a button that says Enable Editing.
Press Enter.


Thanks!!

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Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Rui Fontes
 

That way no command key will be spoken...

NVDA should have the option to silent some of the command keys...

Rui


Às 16:08 de 09/08/2019, P. Otter escreveu:

disable command keys spoken in keyboard settings
cheers
paul otter
Op 9-8-2019 om 14:22 schreef Marcio via Groups.Io:
Gene,
I made a speech dictionary entry for down arrow, writeen in just that way down space arrow and in the pronunciation field, I placed a space. it worked. You will have to make dictionary entries for any keys you don't want spoken. But I don't think you should make one for tab. there are times when tab is spoken in multipage dialogs such as general, advanced, etc.
Actually, IMHO that shouldn't be done with any of these entries at all.
Just imagine you are reading a tutorial, then somewhere along that tutorial the author writes something like:

Press Alt + down arrow.
In this case, NVDA will read just "Press alt +" and the instructions won't be followed correctly, unless the person spells the entire line, maybe the entire text.

A better solution would be an add-on for working only with the keyboard case. Something that the NVDA Global Extra Plugin (or something like that, can't remember the exact name) seems to do, as indicated by Rui on another message.

Cheers,
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NVDA and Email Attachments?

David Russell
 

Hi Group,

If someone has sent me an MS Word doc as an attachment, and I choose
to open it in GMail, how do I unblock the message "protected view" so
to read?

If I "view as html" will that alter any format changes, i.e., line
spacing, paragraph settings, that the person has devised?

Thanks in advance. I could never download the MS Word tutorial offered
and purchased, so asking instead.

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Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

P. Otter
 

disable command keys spoken in keyboard settings
cheers
paul otter


Op 9-8-2019 om 14:22 schreef Marcio via Groups.Io:

Gene,
I made a speech dictionary entry for down arrow, writeen in just that way down space arrow and in the pronunciation field, I placed a space. it worked. You will have to make dictionary entries for any keys you don't want spoken. But I don't think you should make one for tab. there are times when tab is spoken in multipage dialogs such as general, advanced, etc.
Actually, IMHO that shouldn't be done with any of these entries at all.
Just imagine you are reading a tutorial, then somewhere along that tutorial the author writes something like:

Press Alt + down arrow.

In this case, NVDA will read just "Press alt +" and the instructions won't be followed correctly, unless the person spells the entire line, maybe the entire text.

A better solution would be an add-on for working only with the keyboard case. Something that the NVDA Global Extra Plugin (or something like that, can't remember the exact name) seems to do, as indicated by Rui on another message.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: 19.03 windows update and launching NVDA automatically after logging in

 

Hi everyone,

This is a known issue and Microsoft is indeed aware of this:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9528

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Helen Cummins
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 12:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 19.03 windows update and launching NVDA automatically after logging in

 

Hi everyone, NVDA 2019.2 also does this. It doesn’t worry me much as that’s what I usually want. But I have to quit if I want another screen reader. I thought it was a W10 thing. Best wishes, Helen C 

 

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 6:43 am, Akshaya Choudhary <acsociopath@...> wrote:

Hello guys, I have just installed 19.03 windows 10 update and it automatically launches NVDA after I log in. I have unchecked the relevant option in the NVDA welcome dialogue box, but NVDA is still launching automatically. Can anyone help? 

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Re: winamp

Arno Schuh
 

Hi,

there where some plug-ins for Winamp that read the current file name like "Tell me waht's playing" etc.
I don't know if the site with the plug-ins still extists. But if so ...

Arno

Gene wrote:

You can hear the track name by using the read title bar command, NVDA
t.

I wonder if other screen-readers read the tracks when they change.
This would need to be a setting that could be turned on and off.

Perhaps this should be a general setting, automatically read the
title bar when it changes in the opened Window. Then you could set
up a profile if you only want it to be done in a specific program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Giles Turnbull
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp


I think the best you can get is by Alt-Tabbing from WinAmp to a
different Window and back, at which point you hear the track title.

One thing I have noticed, and I don't know if it's a Windows update
that has made this happen, but all of a sudden I can navigate the
playlist window and NVDA will read the tracks and I can hit enter to
start that track playing. Until maybe two weeks ago all I could do
was play a directory and enqueue more files if I wanted and then
manually skip forwards with the CTRL+b shortcut.

It has always been a bugbear that I can't navigate the playlist on my
Dell laptop because I can on my Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, and
both versions of WinAmp are the same and both are using the latest
stable release of NVDA.

Sometimes if I have a couple of hours-worth of tracks lined up in
Windows that I want to play again, I'll go to the playlist and,
although I can't navigate it or hear what the title of the first
track is, I hit enter and the playlist starts playing. Then, about
two weeks ago, I heard the track title and, lo and behold, I can
navigate the whole playlist window again. Needless to say I'm totally
delighted by this, though haven't installed any new software lately
so, other than perhaps a Windows update, I can't think how it
happened! :)

Giles

NVDA add-on feature idea: Settings ring style option for Developer toolkit

Andy B.
 

Hi,

I am curious, what would DTK users think about having a settings ring style option while using the add-on? My thought is this: When DTK features are enabled, pressing control+s turns on a settings ring style option where you could left/right arrow through the available settings. While on a setting such as detailed messages, pressing up/down arrow cycles through the available options. In the case of detailed messages, the options are enabled or disabled. Pressing control+s again will then turn the settings ring off, returning control back to other DTK features. Let me know what you think over the weekend. This will be another major undertaking because it will modify the entire infrastructure for the entire add-on.

Andy Borka
Accessibility advocate for blind and visually impaired software developers

Re: winamp

Gene
 

You can hear the track name by using the read title bar command, NVDA t. 
 
I wonder if other screen-readers read the tracks when they change.  This would need to be a setting that could be turned on and off.
 
Perhaps this should be a general setting, automatically read the title bar when it changes in the opened Window.  Then you could set up a profile if you only want it to be done in a specific program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp

I think the best you can get is by Alt-Tabbing from WinAmp to a different Window and back, at which point you hear the track title.

One thing I have noticed, and I don't know if it's a Windows update that has made this happen, but all of a sudden I can navigate the playlist window and NVDA will read the tracks and I can hit enter to start that track playing. Until maybe two weeks ago all I could do was play a directory and enqueue more files if I wanted and then manually skip forwards with the CTRL+b shortcut.

It has always been a bugbear that I can't navigate the playlist on my Dell laptop because I can on my Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, and both versions of WinAmp are the same and both are using the latest stable release of NVDA.

Sometimes if I have a couple of hours-worth of tracks lined up in Windows that I want to play again, I'll go to the playlist and, although I can't navigate it or hear what the title of the first track is, I hit enter and the playlist starts playing. Then,  about two weeks ago, I heard the track title and, lo and behold, I can navigate the whole playlist window again. Needless to say I'm totally delighted by this, though haven't installed any new software lately so, other than perhaps a Windows update, I can't think how it happened! :)

Giles

Re: 19.03 windows update and launching NVDA automatically after logging in

h.c.cummins@...
 

Hi everyone, NVDA 2019.2 also does this. It doesn’t worry me much as that’s what I usually want. But I have to quit if I want another screen reader. I thought it was a W10 thing. Best wishes, Helen C 

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 6:43 am, Akshaya Choudhary <acsociopath@...> wrote:
Hello guys, I have just installed 19.03 windows 10 update and it automatically launches NVDA after I log in. I have unchecked the relevant option in the NVDA welcome dialogue box, but NVDA is still launching automatically. Can anyone help? 

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Re: winamp

Giles Turnbull
 

I think the best you can get is by Alt-Tabbing from WinAmp to a different Window and back, at which point you hear the track title.

One thing I have noticed, and I don't know if it's a Windows update that has made this happen, but all of a sudden I can navigate the playlist window and NVDA will read the tracks and I can hit enter to start that track playing. Until maybe two weeks ago all I could do was play a directory and enqueue more files if I wanted and then manually skip forwards with the CTRL+b shortcut.

It has always been a bugbear that I can't navigate the playlist on my Dell laptop because I can on my Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, and both versions of WinAmp are the same and both are using the latest stable release of NVDA.

Sometimes if I have a couple of hours-worth of tracks lined up in Windows that I want to play again, I'll go to the playlist and, although I can't navigate it or hear what the title of the first track is, I hit enter and the playlist starts playing. Then,  about two weeks ago, I heard the track title and, lo and behold, I can navigate the whole playlist window again. Needless to say I'm totally delighted by this, though haven't installed any new software lately so, other than perhaps a Windows update, I can't think how it happened! :)

Giles

Re: Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Gene
 

It’s a workaround, but you can write your message in Notepad, review it, then paste it into the message.  You haven't said anything about spellchecking not working properly so you may want to use this method if you don't get an actual solution.
 
I sometimes do this on web pages where the editor provided by the page doesn't work properly.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Andy B.
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 8:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Hi,

 

When I am writing an email in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA 2019.2RC and earlier inconsistently reads the body of my email. For example, any attempt at using the arrow keys to review what I have written results in NVDA randomly reading text that isn’t present on the current line. If I go to the top of this email as I type it, then press down arrow, NVDA will sometimes read “hi,” multiple times as I go through the lines of text. What is going on, and how do I fix this problem?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

When I am writing an email in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA 2019.2RC and earlier inconsistently reads the body of my email. For example, any attempt at using the arrow keys to review what I have written results in NVDA randomly reading text that isn’t present on the current line. If I go to the top of this email as I type it, then press down arrow, NVDA will sometimes read “hi,” multiple times as I go through the lines of text. What is going on, and how do I fix this problem?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Signatures in Windows 10 mail app

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

I am trying to set up email signatures in the Windows 10 mail app. Unfortunately, when I go to settings>signatures and try to put focus on what looks to be an edit field, NVDA doesn’t read anything. In fact, it appears to get stuck after tabbing through the formatting toolbar. So, how would I create my email signatures?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: Footnotes in LibreOffice

kelby carlson
 

Open Office unfortunately has similar issues. I may contact Libre Office and see if they will do something.


On Aug 8, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

I think I would definitely push the blame here onto LibreOffice.  Even if not for this issue, for most of the issues with LibreOffice.  The problem we have is that many of these issues require collaboration from LibreOffice to correctly expose the information we need.  If they don't do that, it may or may not be possible to workaround, but it makes it a lot more work for us.

I haven't used Jaws lately, but I would expect the same issues likely exist.  That's the other reason why the company who make the (LibreOffice) software are best to fix it - if they correctly expose information and use standard controls, etc.  It's likely that it will then just work, not only in NVDA, but with Jaws, Narrator, or other screen reading software.

If you're looking for a free word processor, you might also try Open Office - i haven't kept up to date with who has which features and which works better, but each time someone asks which free suite is better, various people recommend each.  For just a word processor, Jarte is another one to try.  I don't know about using footnotes in any of those.  I'd also say, if you really need those advanced word processing features, it really might be worth considering biting the bullet, and buying Office (either a subscription or an outright version).  Microsoft have been a lot more forthcoming in working with us than LibreOffice, and that is the main reason why it works a lot better with NVDA.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:56 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
Thanks. It is pretty important in scholarly writing to be able to accurately and easily create footnotes; the fact that NVDA cannot do this with Libre Office unfortunately makes the program unfit for serious writing. I wonder if JAWS has this issue as well, or is it universal?


On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Small update to this: I noticed that LibreOffice 6.3 was released overnight.  I tried with that this morning and confirmed the issue of footnote numbers not being read when navigating in the footnote section is still present.  I have created an issue on our issue tracker:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10060  Please feel free to subscribe to that issue, or comment on it if you have more information.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:13 AM Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:
To jump from the body of the page to the footnote section, press CONTROL+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN.  To jump from the footnote section back to the body, press CONTROL+PAGE DOWN.

If found control+page down in their shortcut keys list, and guessed the other one (I mean, I tried it and it worked for me!): https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer

I haven't figured out how to get it to read the number though.

I was using Libre Office 6.1.3.2.  I just downloaded the installer for 6.2.5.2 and installed it, rebooted and .... noticed that the LIbre Office version number in the help menu is still 6.1.3.2, so not sure what's happened there...

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:33 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I am still interested if anybody has suggestions on this issue.

On 12/26/18, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to navigate to footnotes and endnotes in
> LibreOffice using only the keyboard in NVDA? Also, is there a way to
> get NVDA to speak the numbers of footnotes when going through the
> list? LibreOffice seems much faster and more intuitive than Word and
> I'd like to try using it for awhile.
>
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Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

 

Gene,
I made a speech dictionary entry for down arrow, writeen in just that way down space arrow and in the pronunciation field, I placed a space. it worked. You will have to make dictionary entries for any keys you don't want spoken. But I don't think you should make one for tab. there are times when tab is spoken in multipage dialogs such as general, advanced, etc.
Actually, IMHO that shouldn't be done with any of these entries at all.
Just imagine you are reading a tutorial, then somewhere along that tutorial the author writes something like:

Press Alt + down arrow.

In this case, NVDA will read just "Press alt +" and the instructions won't be followed correctly, unless the person spells the entire line, maybe the entire text.

A better solution would be an add-on for working only with the keyboard case. Something that the NVDA Global Extra Plugin (or something like that, can't remember the exact name) seems to do, as indicated by Rui on another message.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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