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After upgrading to NVDA 2019.2 NVDA became totally not functioning

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi,
After upgrading to .2 this morning, my NVDA became totally not functioning.
I have 2 issues:
1 Since NVDA is not making any sound, I cannot create a bug file.

2 I need a NVDA 2019.1.1 installer yet I cannot find that from the releases page of the NVDA.
Could anyone provide me a official link to the download?
Thanks.


Re: Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

Gene
 

I asked to find out if you tried the mouse or just used the command when usingt object navigation or in screen mode.  You need to try both if one doesn't work.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

NVDA-numpad-enter via object navigation, though I honestly don't see how
it could matter. Activating a button should be activating a button, no?
I had to do that because there aren't any menus, since it's an UWP app,
and tabbing does nothing whatsoever. So as far as I can tell, it's the
*only* way to activate buttons, will outside of routing and clicking I
suppose.



On 8/14/2019 14:46, Gene wrote:
> How are you activating the buttons?
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:12 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls
> with NVDA?
>
> Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a
> Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now
> and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything
> with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about
> logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use
> m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through
> it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use
> Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only
> thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't
> seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is
> pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.
>
>
>
>



Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

Quentin Christensen
 

If anyone happens to have NVDA's log level set to debug and is on the first run of NVDA after updating AND has this issue... Could you please send me your nvda.log and nvda-old.log?

As you know, we get a few reports of this each release, but it's always a tricky one to track down.  I thought if anyone happens to be in that situation with a detailed log, might be our best chance to see if anything is recorded.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 7:50 AM Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:
I am on Microsoft Windows Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.239)


On 8/14/2019 3:59 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

> Hi,   I have had this now and again as well.   and get it some times
> when I update to alpha rather annoying.
>
> On 14/08/2019 21:37, Richard Wells wrote:
>> After installing on the forth machine, I encountered this again. It
>> looks like it's 50/50 here.
>>
>> On 8/14/2019 3:15 PM, Richard Wells wrote:
>>>
>>> I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of
>>> them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log
>>> on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on
>>> random installations. I would love to help developers discover why
>>> this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I
>>> check each machine after the update happens to see which state that
>>> preference will be.
>>>
>>> On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just
>>>> installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)
>>>>
>>>> I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started
>>>> I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your
>>>> computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button
>>>> to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more.
>>>> I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on
>>>> my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.
>>>>
>>>> I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start
>>>> NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that
>>>> checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin
>>>> instaling the update?
>>>>
>>>> Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)
>>>>
>>>> Giles
>>
>
>
>





--
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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Re: Why does NVDA not find photos on this website?

Quentin Christensen
 

The site looks like you need to log in before you can view that page.  But at a guess, if they've tagged the photos as alt="" then it indicates that image is purely for decoration and is not important.  NVDA ignores such images because a website might have many of them to, for instance, display a fancy border around something.


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 2:42 AM Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:
Hi all,

this is only really a matter of curiosity since I couldn't see the photos even if NVDA could detect them, but it doesn't find any images with the g shortcut other than the Borrow My Doggy logo at the top of the page.

I have only just joined the Borrow My Doggy website today because I thought it might be nice to have a canine visitor for a couple of hours every so often now I'm leaving student accommodation and living in my own house.

One of the website help team told me the profile for this dog, Gigi, has several photos. Actualy it seems you have to be a member to view the dog profiles so maybe this is only a hypothetical question.

"Gigi has a few photos on the profile. He is black and tan and quite fluffy. He has a lovely little face and big brown eyes, a very handsome boy :)"

https://www.borrowmydoggy.com/dog_profile/yLk1Abbo

Is there a reason why NVDA might not think there are any graphics other than the logo at the top of the page? I'm using latest Firefox on Win10.

woof! :)

Giles



--
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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

Richard Wells
 

I am on Microsoft Windows Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.239)

On 8/14/2019 3:59 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,   I have had this now and again as well.   and get it some times
when I update to alpha rather annoying.

On 14/08/2019 21:37, Richard Wells wrote:
After installing on the forth machine, I encountered this again. It
looks like it's 50/50 here.

On 8/14/2019 3:15 PM, Richard Wells wrote:

I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of
them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log
on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on
random installations. I would love to help developers discover why
this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I
check each machine after the update happens to see which state that
preference will be.

On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just
installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started
I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your
computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button
to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more.
I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on
my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start
NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that
checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin
instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


NVDA 2019.2 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Good morning everyone,

NV Access is pleased to announce the release of NVDA 2019.2.  Highlights of this release include auto detection of Freedom Scientific braille displays, an experimental setting in the Advanced panel to stop browse mode from automatically moving focus (which may provide performance improvements), a rate boost option for the Windows OneCore synthesizer to achieve very fast rates, and many other bug fixes.

Please see the full release announcement, what's new, and download links at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2-now-available/ 

Kind regards

Quentin. 

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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Re: Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

Michał Dzienisowicz
 

Hi. I use a messenger.com website and google chrome. It is mostly accessible and intuitive. And it is possible to make calls witch this. Best regards.

Wiadomość napisana przez John Isige <gwynn@...> w dniu 14.08.2019, o godz. 21:12:

Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.






Re: Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

John Isige
 

NVDA-numpad-enter via object navigation, though I honestly don't see how it could matter. Activating a button should be activating a button, no? I had to do that because there aren't any menus, since it's an UWP app, and tabbing does nothing whatsoever. So as far as I can tell, it's the *only* way to activate buttons, will outside of routing and clicking I suppose.

On 8/14/2019 14:46, Gene wrote:
How are you activating the buttons?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a
Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now
and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything
with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about
logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use
m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through
it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use
Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only
thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't
seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is
pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.




Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I have had this now and again as well. and get it some times when I update to alpha rather annoying.

On 14/08/2019 21:37, Richard Wells wrote:
After installing on the forth machine, I encountered this again. It looks like it's 50/50 here.
On 8/14/2019 3:15 PM, Richard Wells wrote:

I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on random installations. I would love to help developers discover why this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I check each machine after the update happens to see which state that preference will be.

On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

 

It is worth mentioning. It happens to me too. However, I think my issue is linked to video driver issues. It happened after I restarted after updating. I am on Windows 10 1903.




On 8/14/2019 4:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I noticed it with beta and and release candidate ones


it must be from the snap they use but if i remember right it does not do it with the stable.


I just have to remember to go back in an check it then save settings.


Otherwise you could think it is taking a bit to start up.


Gene nz


On 15/08/2019 8:15 AM, Richard Wells wrote:

I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on random installations. I would love to help developers discover why this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I check each machine after the update happens to see which state that preference will be.

On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles
--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

Richard Wells
 

After installing on the forth machine, I encountered this again. It looks like it's 50/50 here.

On 8/14/2019 3:15 PM, Richard Wells wrote:

I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on random installations. I would love to help developers discover why this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I check each machine after the update happens to see which state that preference will be.

On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

 

Its never happened on any machine I have ever used but then its only on 1 machine.

Also, there has been no release announcement on nvda release.



On 15/08/2019 8:15 AM, Richard Wells wrote:

I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on random installations. I would love to help developers discover why this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I check each machine after the update happens to see which state that preference will be.

On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


Re: After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

Richard Wells
 

I have installed NVDA 2019.2 on three machines so far and one of them summarily deselected the "Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows" check box. I see this each time NVDA updates on random installations. I would love to help developers discover why this happens and what conditions reproduce the issue. For now, I check each machine after the update happens to see which state that preference will be.

On 8/14/2019 3:00 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


Re: Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If i remember right you can also do it through the main website of face book.


You just need to go down to your list of followers see which one is online then press the enter key then i think tab down to either audio or video then press the enter key.


But you must either have a cam already installed or a audio device to do that on your say computer.


I am sure i done it a while ago but I would rather use voip where i can put in numbers etc now and again i use skype if any one is on it but they do not seem to be laterly.


I just can not remember if I ever wrote it up in the face book tutorial or it might of been when navigating it.



I have not tried the windows 10 app version if there is one.


If you do sign up and or get it running even on the web  if you want to can you write down the steps of what to do and like a tutorial and can paste.


Gene nz


On 15/08/2019 7:12 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


After installing NVDA 2019.2 and a Win10 update

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I installed the update to NVDA 2019.2 this afternoon and have just installed an update to Win10 (Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.950)

I used the Install Update and Re-start option. As Win10 re-started I heard "windows is configuring your updates. Do not turn off your computer" and then I heard nothing more. I pressed the power button to reboot and the drives gave a slight whirr and then nothing more. I wondered if NVDA had failed to start so used a shortcut I have on my desktop to re-launch NVDA ... and NVDA duly re-started.

I looked in the NVDA preferences and somehow the option to start NVDA after Windows logon had got unchecked. I always have that checked so is that something that has somehow become unchecked iin instaling the update?

Just thought it might be worth mentioning :)

Giles


Re: Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

Gene
 

How are you activating the buttons?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a
Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now
and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything
with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about
logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use
m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through
it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use
Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only
thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't
seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is
pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.




Re: Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

 

Hi,
i think the messenger.com web page is able to do calls.
Greetings,
Wolfram

John Isige schrieb:

Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.



Is there an accessible way to make Facebook calls with NVDA?

John Isige
 

Hi all. So somebody wants to do Facebook calls with me. I see there's a Messenger app from the Microsoft Store, but when I installed it just now and it came up, there doesn't really seem to be a way to do anything with it. Using object navigation I see there's a list of buttons about logging in, but activating them doesn't seem to do much. I use m.facebook.com for Facebook, but I don't think you can do calls through it. Is there a way to do these with NVDA? I tried getting them to use Skype but they don't seem to want to, even though they have it. The only thing I've found on desktop is the Microsoft Store app, and that doesn't seem to be accessible, unless I'm missing something. Everything else is pretty much talking about phones, and I don't have one.


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