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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes Ralf Kefferpuetz #64318 Arno, I don't hear them, with espeak, eloquence and core voicesoeven with symbol level set to all. Cheers, Ralf toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Schuh Sent: Freitag, 16. August 2019 17:48 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Fw: Feature when reading text with dashes Hi Ralf, strange. The newsletter begins with 4 dashes. Do you can't see that? If you only use speech - probably your speech engine read it aloud. I use Nuance Vocalizer Steffi as my default German voice. Probably when useing SAPI voices, Easpeak etc. they didn't do the same? Yours sincerely Arno Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote: Hello Armo, I can't see any annoying dashes on that page. Where exactly do you see them? Please give me a phrase to search for... Cheers, Ralf -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Schuh Sent: Freitag, 16. August 2019 11:30 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Fw: Feature when reading text with dashes uploaded an example at. http://www.schmusilin.de/example.htm Arno Schuh wrote: Hi, in a lot of HTML newsletters I have an annoying problem: They uses lines with dashes. NVDA reads dash dash dash dash dash dash dash etc. - - - - - - Would be nice, if NVDA could recognize a row of lines with the same characters like it do when the same characters are into a single line. ------ Yours sincerely Arno
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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes Brian Vogel #64317 On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 03:57 PM, Arno Schuh wrote: Seems you haven't read the problem carefully. And you've not expressed it well. The webpage provided (which is what I checked) looks like any other webpage, a mix of graphics and text. You can, easily, eliminate the speaking of lines that are constituted of nothing but a single dash as well. It's a matter of having a pattern that is not easily confused with anything else. If what you're concerned about is a line composed of but a single hyphen (or even multiple hyphens, but only hyphens) not being read, use the pattern: (-)+ as a regular expression match in the default dictionary, then have the replacement be empty. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes Arno Schuh #64316 Seems you haven't read the problem carefully. The dashes are not in a line, but just one dash in a line, but several lines with such a single dash. Brian Vogel wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text It is a simple matter to use the default dictionary to deal with this if you have material that you read frequently that uses separator lines, regardless of the character used. I long ago added an entry to the speech dictionary to handle lines of repeated asterisks, dashes, or plus signs, when there are more than three in a row. I've extracted the component parts here: Comment: Announce any long string of hyphens, plus signs, or asterisks as "separator line" Pattern: (\+\|-\|\){3,} Replacement: Separator Line Type: Regular Expression If that is included in the speech dictionary any line consisting of 3 or more of those characters, in any combination, will be announced as "Separator Line." One could, of course, elect to have no replacement, but I never do that. I want to know that something has been encountered, and what the nature of it was. I'll include a couple of examples, with a description of what follows before each. They will all read as "separator line." All Hyphens: ----------- All Asterisks: ********* All Plus Signs: ++++++++++ All three characters in repeating combination:
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Re: Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Rob Hudson #64315 That did the trick, Brian, thanks. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:05:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [nvda] Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Is it possible that somehow Protected View has been re-enabled by default (and for everything in this case)? Worth taking a look, and these instructions will get you to where you need to look: Adjusting Protected View Settings in MS-Office Programs ( https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOSHIyWXUzRnFkdmc ) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ Andr� Gide
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Re: Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Brian Vogel #64314 Is it possible that somehow Protected View has been re-enabled by default (and for everything in this case)? Worth taking a look, and these instructions will get you to where you need to look: Adjusting Protected View Settings in MS-Office Programs -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Graph and chart survey by Microsoft Adriani Botez #64313 Dear all, for those who are dealing with charts and graphs, here is a survey from Microsoft which seems to be quite promising. I think anyone of us should give his or her 10 cents on this topic because it is very important in education but also at work. https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=v4j5cvGGr0GRqy180BHbR7Mi-A6zaP1HuKPorWeGJRVUNlBHM1lWREdSOTNTMElLNEgzNUowQTNSOC4u Best Adriani
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Re: Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Rob Hudson #64312 This started when those settings were disabled. Notice that I said: I've gone into advanced NVDA settings and ticked the box Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available And this had no effect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 19:42:50 +0200 Subject: Re: [nvda] Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Hello, you must disable UIA in Word in NVDA settings / advanced settings. Best Adriani -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Rob Hudson Gesendet: Freitag, 16. August 2019 19:36 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: [nvda] Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only NVDA 2019.2, Word 2016, Windows 10. Every document, new or previously saved, says read only at every cursor movement key. The documents are not actually read only. I've gone into advanced NVDA settings and ticked the box Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available And this had no effect. Thoughts?
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Re: Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Adriani Botez #64311 Hello, you must disable UIA in Word in NVDA settings / advanced settings. Best Adriani toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Rob Hudson Gesendet: Freitag, 16. August 2019 19:36 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: [nvda] Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only NVDA 2019.2, Word 2016, Windows 10. Every document, new or previously saved, says read only at every cursor movement key. The documents are not actually read only. I've gone into advanced NVDA settings and ticked the box Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available And this had no effect. Thoughts?
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Word 2016: All Documents say Read Only Rob Hudson #64310 NVDA 2019.2, Word 2016, Windows 10. Every document, new or previously saved, says read only at every cursor movement key. The documents are not actually read only. I've gone into advanced NVDA settings and ticked the box Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available And this had no effect. Thoughts?
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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes Brian Vogel #64309 It is a simple matter to use the default dictionary to deal with this if you have material that you read frequently that uses separator lines, regardless of the character used. I long ago added an entry to the speech dictionary to handle lines of repeated asterisks, dashes, or plus signs, when there are more than three in a row. I've extracted the component parts here: Comment: Announce any long string of hyphens, plus signs, or asterisks as "separator line" Pattern: (\+\|-\|\){3,} Replacement: Separator Line Type: Regular Expression If that is included in the speech dictionary any line consisting of 3 or more of those characters, in any combination, will be announced as "Separator Line." One could, of course, elect to have no replacement, but I never do that. I want to know that something has been encountered, and what the nature of it was. I'll include a couple of examples, with a description of what follows before each. They will all read as "separator line." All Hyphens: ----------- All Asterisks: ********* All Plus Signs: ++++++++++ All three characters in repeating combination: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes Arno Schuh #64308 Hi Ralf, strange. The newsletter begins with 4 dashes. Do you can't see that? If you only use speech - probably your speech engine read it aloud. I use Nuance Vocalizer Steffi as my default German voice. Probably when useing SAPI voices, Easpeak etc. they didn't do the same? Yours sincerely Arno Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Hello Armo, I can't see any annoying dashes on that page. Where exactly do you see them? Please give me a phrase to search for... Cheers, Ralf -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Schuh Sent: Freitag, 16. August 2019 11:30 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Fw: Feature when reading text with dashes uploaded an example at. http://www.schmusilin.de/example.htm Arno Schuh wrote: Hi, in a lot of HTML newsletters I have an annoying problem: They uses lines with dashes. NVDA reads dash dash dash dash dash dash dash etc. - - - - - - Would be nice, if NVDA could recognize a row of lines with the same characters like it do when the same characters are into a single line. ------ Yours sincerely Arno
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weather forecast Jarek.Krcmar #64307 Hi all, I have installed Nvda 2019/2 and the latest version of Weather plus. I would like to know any shortcut for the forecast. Do you have an advice, please? -- Jarek
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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes George Bell <george@...> #64306 Goodness knows what the original source came from, but here's line 5. No wonder it's giving a screen reader the fits! George line-height: 0px !important; font-size: 0px !important;">Keine Versandkosten \| Kein Mindestbestellwert<div style="display: none; max-height: 0px; overflow: hidden;"> &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj; &zwnj;</div><br /><img src="http://news.genius.tv/tas9xof7-ak7aug0z-uvyzjypu-11h.gif" toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: 16 August 2019 12:31 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Fw: Feature when reading text with dashes Hello Armo, I can't see any annoying dashes on that page. Where exactly do you see them? Please give me a phrase to search for... Cheers, Ralf -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Schuh Sent: Freitag, 16. August 2019 11:30 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Fw: Feature when reading text with dashes uploaded an example at. http://www.schmusilin.de/example.htm Arno Schuh wrote: Hi, in a lot of HTML newsletters I have an annoying problem: They uses lines with dashes. NVDA reads dash dash dash dash dash dash dash etc. - - - - - - Would be nice, if NVDA could recognize a row of lines with the same characters like it do when the same characters are into a single line. ------ Yours sincerely Arno
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Re: Feature when reading text with dashes Ralf Kefferpuetz #64305 Hello Armo, I can't see any annoying dashes on that page. Where exactly do you see them? Please give me a phrase to search for... Cheers, Ralf toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Schuh Sent: Freitag, 16. August 2019 11:30 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Fw: Feature when reading text with dashes uploaded an example at. http://www.schmusilin.de/example.htm Arno Schuh wrote: Hi, in a lot of HTML newsletters I have an annoying problem: They uses lines with dashes. NVDA reads dash dash dash dash dash dash dash etc. - - - - - - Would be nice, if NVDA could recognize a row of lines with the same characters like it do when the same characters are into a single line. ------ Yours sincerely Arno
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Re: NVDA 2019.2 now available Robert Doc Wright godfearer #64304 The best way to get rid of an old signature is to uncheck the box to have a signature, press ok and then go back in recheck the box and then paste your new signature. **** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Quentin Christensen Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 4:42 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.2 now available Just looking at it now, you are right, if you tab to the "pictures" button, then tab one more time, it doesn't say anything, but that's the edit field for your signature. You can type in there but nothing is read. By default it has "Sent from Mail for Windows 10". What I would recommend for now, is write your signature in Word or Notepad or somewhere else, copy it, then come to this edit box, select all, and paste. FWIW, Narrator doesn't work any better than NVDA at reading that section, so it definitely is an issue with that screen in Mail. Regards Quentin. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 3:19 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote: By chance has any one figured out what to do about the windows 10 mail app where adding signatures are concerned? Microsoft disability support says that the field we need to enter text into is appearing as a graphic. It comes after the option to add a picture. ** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Quentin Christensen Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 3:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject:** [nvda] NVDA 2019.2 now available Good morning everyone, NV Access is pleased to announce the release of NVDA 2019.2. Highlights of this release include auto detection of Freedom Scientific braille displays, an experimental setting in the Advanced panel to stop browse mode from automatically moving focus (which may provide performance improvements), a rate boost option for the Windows OneCore synthesizer to achieve very fast rates, and many other bug fixes. Please see the full release announcement, what's new, and download links at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2-now-available/ Kind regards Quentin. -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available! Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Feature when reading text with dashes Arno Schuh #64303 uploaded an example at. http://www.schmusilin.de/example.htm Arno Schuh wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Hi, in a lot of HTML newsletters I have an annoying problem: They uses lines with dashes. NVDA reads dash dash dash dash dash dash dash etc. - - - - - - Would be nice, if NVDA could recognize a row of lines with the same characters like it do when the same characters are into a single line. ------ Yours sincerely Arno
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Re: Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #addonrelease hurrikennyandopo ... #64302 Hi Only add ons for the nvda screen reader that are compatible with the nvda updater. Not the older add ons from other websites. nVDA has its own built in updater. it is found under help then check for update. Gene nz toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 16/08/2019 9:05 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote: Hi, I have downloaded and installed Nvda-Addon-Updater. Does it update Nvda Automatically? Jarek Dne 16.08.2019 v 8:33 Christo Vorster napsal(a): Thanks, I installed it. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 08:22 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #AddonRelease Hi, Version 19.09 isn’t out yet – won’t be available until late August at the earliest so folks can at least give NVDA 2019.2 a test drive. However, 19.08.1 can be downloaded from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/addonUpdater.en.html From there, select stable version, and Add-on Updater will be ready for download. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo Vorster Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #AddonRelease Hi Joseph Could you please post the link to download Add-on Updater 19.09. I somehow lost the add-on. Thanks Christo Vorster (South Africa) From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 02:13 To: nvda-devel@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #AddonRelease Hi all, Add-on Updater 19.08.1 is now available. This version registers Control Usage Assistant for update checks and resolves an issue where you could not check for updates for certain add-ons with unexpected update channels set (NVDA would do nothing or play error tones). Note: this update will install on NVDA 2019.1, but I recommend using this add-on with 2019.2. Add-on Updater 19.09 will require NVDA 2019.2. Cheers, Joseph -- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #addonrelease Jarek.Krcmar #64301 Hi, I have downloaded and installed Nvda-Addon-Updater. Does it update Nvda Automatically? Jarek Dne 16.08.2019 v 8:33 Christo Vorster napsal(a): toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Thanks, I installed it. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 08:22 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #AddonRelease Hi, Version 19.09 isn’t out yet – won’t be available until late August at the earliest so folks can at least give NVDA 2019.2 a test drive. However, 19.08.1 can be downloaded from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/addonUpdater.en.html From there, select stable version, and Add-on Updater will be ready for download. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo Vorster Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #AddonRelease Hi Joseph Could you please post the link to download Add-on Updater 19.09. I somehow lost the add-on. Thanks Christo Vorster (South Africa) From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 02:13 To: nvda-devel@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Add-on Update 19.08.1 released with bug fixes #AddonRelease Hi all, Add-on Updater 19.08.1 is now available. This version registers Control Usage Assistant for update checks and resolves an issue where you could not check for updates for certain add-ons with unexpected update channels set (NVDA would do nothing or play error tones). Note: this update will install on NVDA 2019.1, but I recommend using this add-on with 2019.2. Add-on Updater 19.09 will require NVDA 2019.2. Cheers, Joseph
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Feature when reading text with dashes Arno Schuh #64300 Hi, in a lot of HTML newsletters I have an annoying problem: They uses lines with dashes. NVDA reads dash dash dash dash dash dash dash etc. - - - - - - Would be nice, if NVDA could recognize a row of lines with the same characters like it do when the same characters are into a single line. ------ Yours sincerely Arno
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Re: Please help, how tocansel indent sound in Nvda Jarek.Krcmar #64299 Hi, already is in order. The indenntation is off. Thanks Jarek Dne 15.08.2019 v 9:07 hurrikennyandopo ... napsal(a): toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Hi Do the following to get there quickly. Press the ctrl key +nvda key + the letter D this will bring up documentation formatting menu then tab down to Line indentation reporting: Off then turn it off it is a combo box and you might have it set to sounds or voice. Then apply settings if you are happy. Gene nz On 15/08/2019 7:01 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote: Hi all in this group, I have experimentally set the indent sound, but I forgot, how I did it. When I go example on web, I hear the sound Indend. The word Indent is also spoken to me. I need the sound uncheck. I have all in document formating unchecked. -- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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