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Re: Nvda on Usb

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I dedicate 1 drive for 1 piece of activity so for me nvda is in the / of the folder.
Not an unreasonable practice, but I'd have way too many USB thumb drives were this to be my standard practice!!   I try to keep my equipment clutter, including stuff like thumb drives, to the minimum possible.
 
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:56 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Also some songs with the Mp3 extension say Mariana Islands
Fascinating.   It has to be the same sort of "very context specific" thing going on.   What context would trigger a .mp3 extension to be pronounced as Mariana Islands would be interesting to ferret out.    At least that one, to me, would be less annoying if it happened very occasionally, since I know when I'm dealing with folders full of mp3 files.

Having "Cuban pesos" be read repeatedly when you're trying to review a recipe (and you often have to check and recheck when cooking with one) is utterly maddening.

 
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Re: CodeFactory eloquence&vocalizer addon and sapi5 eloquence

Josh Kennedy
 

I got a message from atguys on twitter saying that codeFactory is updating eloquence for python3.


Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos

Brice Mijares
 

I reported this behavior a few years ago. Also some songs with the Mp3 extension say Mariana Islands

On 8/21/2019 8:36 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
I have also had this issue, and changed the pronunciation in the dictionary. But yes, the response from NVDA is inconsistent.
Sile
On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:56 PM, Jean <jmarcleyhaha@gmail.com <mailto:jmarcleyhaha@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have changed this in the dictionary and it works sometimes, but not all the time.

Jean

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Re: Nvda on Usb

Sarah k Alawami
 

I dedicate 1 drive for 1 piece of activity so for me nvda is in the / of the folder.

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On 22 Aug 2019, at 7:45, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:17 AM, Gene wrote:
But to keep files from being splattered on the drive without a folder, I think its better to have the files in a folder.  If you don't, they will be on the root of the drive or thumb drive.
I agree.   Some things that create portable copies also create a dedicated folder for same, others don't, and NVDA doesn't.

If I intend to have a portable copy of NVDA on a drive where I want lots of other stuff, I do as you've said elsewhere, create an NVDA folder, and move everything there.

But knowing how NVDA behaves when creating a portable copy, I don't ever create those on a drive where I already have lots of other data, as picking up all the pieces and sweeping them into a dedicated NVDA folder becomes much more difficult.   Instead, I create that portable copy on a blank drive, create an NVDA folder on the drive where I actually want it, then copy over the content from the other drive with a simple "select all/CTRL+A" to get it all at once.

This is a "live and learn" situation with each and every piece of portable software, depending on the behavior of what creates it.
 
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Re: Nvda on Usb

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:17 AM, Gene wrote:
But to keep files from being splattered on the drive without a folder, I think its better to have the files in a folder.  If you don't, they will be on the root of the drive or thumb drive.
I agree.   Some things that create portable copies also create a dedicated folder for same, others don't, and NVDA doesn't.

If I intend to have a portable copy of NVDA on a drive where I want lots of other stuff, I do as you've said elsewhere, create an NVDA folder, and move everything there.

But knowing how NVDA behaves when creating a portable copy, I don't ever create those on a drive where I already have lots of other data, as picking up all the pieces and sweeping them into a dedicated NVDA folder becomes much more difficult.   Instead, I create that portable copy on a blank drive, create an NVDA folder on the drive where I actually want it, then copy over the content from the other drive with a simple "select all/CTRL+A" to get it all at once.

This is a "live and learn" situation with each and every piece of portable software, depending on the behavior of what creates it.
 
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Re: Nvda portable version

Gene
 

Create a folder on the thumb drive just as you would anywhere.  If the files are the only thing on the drive, select all with control a. Then cut them, control x, open the folder, and paste them there, control v. 
The files will all now be in a folder.  You don't use the installer on the portable version.  Just delete the files.
 
I have said before that it is not good practice for the installer not to create a folder when it is creating the portable version.  This is an example of why. 
 
I experimented once to make sure if a folder is created and it isn't.  the files were splattered all over the folder I was creating the portable version in, along with all the other subfolders and other unrelated files in that folder. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda portable version

Hi all in this group,

I created portable version on usb flashdisk, but I found out, that the
installer did not create the folder Nvda. I want the portable version
uninstall from usb, but the uninstaller does not work.

I found this message:

Error launching installer


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Jarek




Re: Nvda portable version

 

There is no uninstaller for a portable version.   You just delete it.

If you had nothing else on that drive, then open the drive, create a folder named NVDA, then select all else on the drive and move it to that folder.

If you want the drive space available again then just delete the files on it or format it again.

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Re: Nvda on Usb

Gene
 

You can have it wherever you want, in a folder or not, and copy or move it anywhere, to another drive, thumb, external hard drive, etc.
 
But to keep files from being splattered on the drive without a folder, I think its better to have the files in a folder.  If you don't, they will be on the root of the drive or thumb drive.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda on Usb

It's been ages since I last played with this, but if memory serves once you've created the portable version of NVDA on a USB drive you are free to create a folder for it and move it there and/or create separate folders for other stuff on that drive.

We're not talking about a bootable drive, just a drive that has a portable edition of NVDA on it.   In all other respects the drive is free game for storing things in other folders.

I'm sure someone will correct me if my memory is not serving.
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Nvda portable version

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi all in this group,

I created portable version on usb flashdisk, but I found out, that the installer did not create the folder Nvda. I want the portable version uninstall from usb, but the uninstaller does not work.

I found this message:

Error launching installer


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Jarek


Re: Nvda on Usb

 

It's been ages since I last played with this, but if memory serves once you've created the portable version of NVDA on a USB drive you are free to create a folder for it and move it there and/or create separate folders for other stuff on that drive.

We're not talking about a bootable drive, just a drive that has a portable edition of NVDA on it.   In all other respects the drive is free game for storing things in other folders.

I'm sure someone will correct me if my memory is not serving.
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Re: Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:01 AM, Sam Bushman wrote:
Depending on the version [of Office 365] you purchase you may be able to download actual installable software.
Absolutely.   Microsoft has made as many versions/editions of Office as one could care to think about, and many one would prefer not to.   They also push Office 365, regardless of the variant, as being "the only Office available" if one takes office.microsoft.com seriously.

Were I to be buying Office new these days, it would be Office 2019, which was released last fall.
 
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Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

Sam Bushman
 

                                           Sorry for the miss statement I ment to say office 365 is an online product.

Depending on the version you purchase you may be able to download actual installable software.

 

 

From: libertyroundtable@... <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 7:04 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

Office 2016 is an online product. Least expensive options are only online apps.

If you purchase the more expensive / business versions then you can actually download and install office.

Once you get the more expensive downloadable version of 2016 they are the same – mainly how they are distributed is the difference.

But, don’t purchase the least expensive option – it will not work with speech well.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

The two are very, very similar.   I also prefer the conventional "local installed" versions of Office like Office 2016 to Office 365.

I cannot speak definitively as I am not using both at one time at the moment.  But I use Office 2016 daily and have tutored JAWS and every Office version since either 2007 or 2010 (I can't remember which at the moment).   On the whole, "Office is Office," from an accessibility standpoint.   The core functions have remained the same forever, as have the keyboard shortcuts for same.

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Re: Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 09:03 AM, Sam Bushman wrote:
Office 2016 is an online product.
Incorrect.  Period.

Any of the "year dated" versions of MS Office are locally installed.   I prefer that, and that's why I have those.

Office 365 is online/cloud based, though there are local components as well.
 
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Re: Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

Aine Kelly Costello
 

Great thanks Brian

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 1:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

The two are very, very similar.   I also prefer the conventional "local installed" versions of Office like Office 2016 to Office 365.

I cannot speak definitively as I am not using both at one time at the moment.  But I use Office 2016 daily and have tutored JAWS and every Office version since either 2007 or 2010 (I can't remember which at the moment).   On the whole, "Office is Office," from an accessibility standpoint.   The core functions have remained the same forever, as have the keyboard shortcuts for same.

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Re: Nvda on Usb

mattias
 

i have a copy on a usb hard drive works fine

On 2019-08-22 11:37, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi all in this group,

I have created portable version on usb flashdisk.

I would like to know, what is better: have the portable Nvda single on Usb, or I must create a folder for it.


Re: CodeFactory eloquence&vocalizer addon and sapi5 eloquence

mattias
 

i meen hope cf update the addon to work with nvda 2019.3 with python3

On 2019-08-22 10:28, Ed Marquette wrote:
Barely
No technical assistance 



On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:42 PM, mattias <mjonsson1986@...> wrote:

i soon wonder if the codefactory addon are mainteaned

On 2019-08-21 22:29, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

 

In comparing the CodeFactory sapi5 eloquence, and eloquence CodeFactory addon, comparing them to jaws with eloquence, sapi5 espeak, and the illegal eloquence, I noticed sapi5 espeak is more responsive and illegal eloquence is more responsive when arrowing through words letter by letter and is more responsive in general. Also espeak has better responsiveness than CodeFactory eloquence. So could CodeFactory please update their sapi5 eloquence and their NVDA addon and make it more responsive like espeak? I know it can be done, because both jaws with eloquence and illegal eloquence are more responsive than the CodeFactory addon that I purchased. Why can’t it be the other way around? Illegal eloquence is unresponsive and buggy while CodeFactory eloquence is responsive and fast? Why can’t CodeFactory please take the responsiveness code from espeak or I’ll just call it bad illegal eloquence and incorporate it into its own products? I like owning a legal copy of eloquence. But I do not like the fact that the bad illegal eloquence is more responsive than codeFactory’s version.

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos

 

Jean,

         You're quite welcome.  That one was insanity-making for me, too, and it was one of the easiest "dictionary fixes" I've ever worked on.   When you start getting into some of the complex regular expressions I've had to come up with this thing was a cinch!

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The color of truth is grey.

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Re: Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

Sam Bushman
 

Office 2016 is an online product. Least expensive options are only online apps.

If you purchase the more expensive / business versions then you can actually download and install office.

Once you get the more expensive downloadable version of 2016 they are the same – mainly how they are distributed is the difference.

But, don’t purchase the least expensive option – it will not work with speech well.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

The two are very, very similar.   I also prefer the conventional "local installed" versions of Office like Office 2016 to Office 365.

I cannot speak definitively as I am not using both at one time at the moment.  But I use Office 2016 daily and have tutored JAWS and every Office version since either 2007 or 2010 (I can't remember which at the moment).   On the whole, "Office is Office," from an accessibility standpoint.   The core functions have remained the same forever, as have the keyboard shortcuts for same.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Office 2016 versus Office 365 with NVDA

 

The two are very, very similar.   I also prefer the conventional "local installed" versions of Office like Office 2016 to Office 365.

I cannot speak definitively as I am not using both at one time at the moment.  But I use Office 2016 daily and have tutored JAWS and every Office version since either 2007 or 2010 (I can't remember which at the moment).   On the whole, "Office is Office," from an accessibility standpoint.   The core functions have remained the same forever, as have the keyboard shortcuts for same.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide