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Re: Nvda portable version Jarek.Krcmar #64534 Thank you Luke for message. Jarek Dne 23.08.2019 v 10:50 Luke Davis napsal(a): toggle quoted messageShow quoted text That is intended to remove an installed copy of NVDA from a system, not to remove the portable copy. Frankly, it shouldn't be available in the portable copy. To remove a portable copy, you just delete it. In my opinion, we should probably try to get this situation changed in a future version, perhaps by storing files not needed by portable in zips or the like. Or even just having them put in a folder and renamed to non-executable. Luke On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Jarek.Krcmar wrote: thank for your message. When I opened Nvda Portable, I have found the file Uninstall.exe. When I pressed key Enter, it was to me offered to uninstall Nvda from my computer. But I canselled it.
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Re: Nvda portable version Luke Davis #64533 That is intended to remove an installed copy of NVDA from a system, not to remove the portable copy. Frankly, it shouldn't be available in the portable copy. To remove a portable copy, you just delete it. In my opinion, we should probably try to get this situation changed in a future version, perhaps by storing files not needed by portable in zips or the like. Or even just having them put in a folder and renamed to non-executable. Luke toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Jarek.Krcmar wrote: thank for your message. When I opened Nvda Portable, I have found the file Uninstall.exe. When I pressed key Enter, it was to me offered to uninstall Nvda from my computer. But I canselled it.
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Re: Nvda portable version Jarek.Krcmar #64532 Hi Brian, thank for your message. When I opened Nvda Portable, I have found the file Uninstall.exe. When I pressed key Enter, it was to me offered to uninstall Nvda from my computer. But I canselled it. Jarek Dne 22.08.2019 v 16:20 Brian Vogel napsal(a): toggle quoted messageShow quoted text There is no uninstaller for a portable version. You just delete it. If you had nothing else on that drive, then open the drive, create a folder named NVDA, then select all else on the drive and move it to that folder. If you want the drive space available again then just delete the files on it or format it again. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Nvda on Usb Jarek.Krcmar #64531 Hi Gene and all, I have created folder called Nvda and Then I moved all files of Nvda to it. Thank you very much. Jarek Dne 22.08.2019 v 16:17 Gene napsal(a): toggle quoted messageShow quoted text You can have it wherever you want, in a folder or not, and copy or move it anywhere, to another drive, thumb, external hard drive, etc. But to keep files from being splattered on the drive without a folder, I think its better to have the files in a folder. If you don't, they will be on the root of the drive or thumb drive. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vogel Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda on Usb It's been ages since I last played with this, but if memory serves once you've created the portable version of NVDA on a USB drive you are free to create a folder for it and move it there and/or create separate folders for other stuff on that drive. We're not talking about a bootable drive, just a drive that has a portable edition of NVDA on it. In all other respects the drive is free game for storing things in other folders. I'm sure someone will correct me if my memory is not serving. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: setting Firefox as default browser using NVDA Luke Davis #64530 On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, Brian Vogel wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:02 PM, Luke Davis wrote: And the first thing MS does on a windows update, is turn it [Fast Startup] back on. Be warned. People should check, because what you report does happen to a subset of Windows 10 users, and for reasons I have never been able to determine.Not a single one of my 5 machines here at home has ever had my choice of Fast Startup off revert to on after a feature update. It's stayed off once set that way. Strange indeed. I've lost it twice that I know of, and the author of the WindowsCentral article I posted earlier mentioned it as well. Luke
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Re: setting Firefox as default browser using NVDA Brian Vogel #64529 On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:02 PM, Luke Davis wrote: And the first thing MS does on a windows update, is turn it [Fast Startup] back on. Be warned. People should check, because what you report does happen to a subset of Windows 10 users, and for reasons I have never been able to determine. Not a single one of my 5 machines here at home has ever had my choice of Fast Startup off revert to on after a feature update. It's stayed off once set that way. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos Mary Otten #64528 Brian, I am out of town on vacation, so no. Also, somehow I must have deleted your specific message. I’ve seen tons of things referring to your message about the dictionary, but I did not see Ewers message. If you wouldn’t mind sending it to me privately, I will give it a shot when I get home this weekend. Mary toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: Mary, Have you tried the default dictionary addition I've documented earlier? I have yet to see it fail, regardless of synth, and I'd be really curious to know if it does fail with any specific synth. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Microsoft Audible reader Robert Doc Wright godfearer #64527 The audible reader from the Microsoft store uses the following key commands: Moving 30 seconds forward or back control left or right arrows Moving by chapter control+shift+left or right arrow Jump to library alt l **** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!** Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: setting Firefox as default browser using NVDA Luke Davis #64526 On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, Brian Vogel wrote: Yep. The most inane and counterintuitive change Microsoft introduced. I have nothing against the Fast Startup, per se, but I do have a huge problem with how people can and do believe that doing a shutdown does exactly what it says. If they wanted a separate form of Hibernation, which is what Fast Startup does (it only saves the OS system state out to disk, full hibernation does that along with the user state(s) for all user(s) active at the time), they should have called it something like Slumber.The first thing I do when configuring a new Windows 10 system is to turn Fast Startup off. When, not if, but Quite agreed. And the first thing MS does on a windows update, is turn it back on. Be warned. On systems with SSDs the decrease in boot times when it's off are imperceptible. On regular HDD it's not that much longer to boot from scratch, and well worth it in my opinion. On my HDD equipped laptop, turning it off approximately doubles boot time, to about two minutes. Well, actually, about 50 seconds of that is between logon and desktop stability, which is usually shorter with this option turned on, although I'm not exactly sure why, since it shouldn't have any effect at that point in the process. Luke
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Re: Repeating Alt Text of the current object Luke Davis #64525 On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, Gabbert, Darren wrote: When I’m in Microsoft Word and in browse mode I can press g or Shift g to move from image to image. Is there a way to repeat the alt text of the image with focus? I don’t want to shift g and g, because I’m building a tutorial and don’t want the confusion. For future reference: if the regular review commands aren't doing it for you for some reason, maybe try the speech history add-on. Shift-F11 with that add-on, will always read the last thing spoken. Luke
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NVDA's new 1 core voices feature seems pretty broken Jackie #64524 So I decided to experiment to see if my Eloquence would say Cuban pesos instead of cups. No matter what permutation I tried, it didn't. But what I did find was: 1) When I changed the speech synth to 1core voices, when I tabbed to the voice settings portion of the dialog, the voices didn't change in the listing, ie, the eloquence voices of Reid & Shelley, etc, were present as opposed to the expected 1core voices of David, Mark, etc. 2) Even when arrowing thru the list of those voices, the speaking voice did not change, ie, Shelly never became female. 3) If I checked the rate boost checkbox, the rate slider never adjusted the rate. It was just blindingly fast, if you'll pardon the pun, even at rate 0. It seems you've got to exit the menu, then go back in to have anything actually take effect. If nothing else, users should likely at least be made aware of these caviots. I guess perhaps that should be reported on Github, but I'm to bleepin lazy to go thru all that. &yeah--1core voices do say Cuban pesos. Leave it to MS speech technology to do something idiotic like that. Retreating back into my hole. -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request@... with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brighter-vision.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com
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Re: Repeating Alt Text of the current object Quentin Christensen #64523 You've got NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, so the keys are a little different to desktop layout (NVDA+up arrow only works in desktop layout to read the current line) - similarly NVDA+A is now say all instead of NVDA+down arrow for you. Kind regards Quentin. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:50 AM Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...> wrote: Thanks! NVDA + l worked. I got hung up on NVDA + up arrow keeps reading the document title. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 7:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Repeating Alt Text of the current object Hi Darren, If you press NVDA+up arrow or NVDA+l to read the current line NVDA will read Graphic then whatever the alt text is. Regards Quentin. On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:57 AM Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...> wrote: When I’m in Microsoft Word and in browse mode I can press g or Shift g to move from image to image. Is there a way to repeat the alt text of the image with focus? I don’t want to shift g and g, because I’m building a tutorial and don’t want the confusion. Thanks! Darren Darren Gabbert Sr. Business Operations Associate Adaptive Computing Technology Center University of Missouri Division of IT N-17 Memorial Union Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 673-5629 Fax: (314) 594-9909 *Darren@...* -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos Brian Vogel #64522 Mary, Have you tried the default dictionary addition I've documented earlier? I have yet to see it fail, regardless of synth, and I'd be really curious to know if it does fail with any specific synth. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Repeating Alt Text of the current object Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...> #64521 Thanks! NVDA + l worked. I got hung up on NVDA + up arrow keeps reading the document title. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 7:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Repeating Alt Text of the current object Hi Darren, If you press NVDA+up arrow or NVDA+l to read the current line NVDA will read Graphic then whatever the alt text is. Regards Quentin. On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:57 AM Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...> wrote: When I’m in Microsoft Word and in browse mode I can press g or Shift g to move from image to image. Is there a way to repeat the alt text of the image with focus? I don’t want to shift g and g, because I’m building a tutorial and don’t want the confusion. Thanks! Darren Darren Gabbert Sr. Business Operations Associate Adaptive Computing Technology Center University of Missouri Division of IT N-17 Memorial Union Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 673-5629 Fax: (314) 594-9909 *Darren@...* -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos Tyler Spivey #64520 The reason it does this is because the screen reader isn't giving the synth enough information to figure out what you meant. Usually, you say 2 cups. That's fine. For the case of 1/2 cup, 1/2 is a fraction, and the synth knows this: In the python console: t=wx.CallLater(500, speech.getSynth().speak, [u'1/2 cup']) However, NVDA's symbol settings are set to send the / as a word, so it fails in this case. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 8/22/2019 5:12 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: Quentin, Specific question: Was it only cup, or cups, or both that said "Cuban Pesos." For me it is only ever the singular. And in this recipe specifically coming after a fraction not represented as a fractional character but as digit one slash digit two. I am using Microsoft David. And, both in pure snark and serious mode, you could probably count on your hands and toes the number of contexts where "cup" is stated as Cuban Pesos in the English speaking world where that would be correct. That's what makes the synth choice all the more bizarre. -- Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos Quentin Christensen #64519 Good question Brian, it was only the 1/2 cup not the 2 cups. I just tried writing: 1/2 cup 1 cup 2 cup 2 cups 1/2 cups the cups the cup and Zira and David only read the first line and the 2 cup line as cuban pesos. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:12 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: Quentin, Specific question: Was it only cup, or cups, or both that said "Cuban Pesos." For me it is only ever the singular. And in this recipe specifically coming after a fraction not represented as a fractional character but as digit one slash digit two. I am using Microsoft David. And, both in pure snark and serious mode, you could probably count on your hands and toes the number of contexts where "cup" is stated as Cuban Pesos in the English speaking world where that would be correct. That's what makes the synth choice all the more bizarre. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos Mary Otten #64518 I haven’t chimed into this discussion, because I am not at home and us can’t access my PC. But I to have encountered a very annoying Cuban pesos problem, and I am not using a 1 core voice. My preferred voice is the James voice from my Kurzweil 1000 CD. But I know that this voice is also available in other places. I’m trying desperately to remember who actually produces it, and I’m coming up blank. I think I have also seen this problem with the voices fromIvona, but I’m not even sure you can get licenses for those anymore. I still have one and still use it. But it is definitely a problem with the James voice. And that is a sappy five voice. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote: I just tried on that recipe, and reading the ingredients, with Microsoft Zira, 1/2 cup white wine is read as "cuban pesos". If I change to Microsoft George or Catherine or several others, it reads the amount of wine correctly. I know the different OneCore voices are installed with different language packs in Windows - because they're just names, I can never remember which comes with which. I know Catherine is the Australian voice, so maybe they assumed not many Australian's would be dealing in Cuban Pesos, compared to folk in the US? On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 4:41 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: Suzy, I just did the default dictionary entry using cup/Cup as described earlier, and made sure to make the context "Whole Word" at the end of the dialog, as I don't want, say, "cupid" mispronounced, and it definitely works. I used the webpage you reference for testing. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA pronouncing cups as Cuban Pesos Brian Vogel #64517 Quentin, Specific question: Was it only cup, or cups, or both that said "Cuban Pesos." For me it is only ever the singular. And in this recipe specifically coming after a fraction not represented as a fractional character but as digit one slash digit two. I am using Microsoft David. And, both in pure snark and serious mode, you could probably count on your hands and toes the number of contexts where "cup" is stated as Cuban Pesos in the English speaking world where that would be correct. That's what makes the synth choice all the more bizarre. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Repeating Alt Text of the current object Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...> #64516 When I’m in Microsoft Word and in browse mode I can press g or Shift g to move from image to image. Is there a way to repeat the alt text of to image with focus? I don’t want to shift g and g, because I’m building a tutorial and don’t want the confusion. Thanks! Darren Darren Gabbert Sr. Business Operations Associate Adaptive Computing Technology Center University of Missouri Division of IT N-17 Memorial Union Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 673-5629 Fax: (314) 594-9909 *Darren@...*
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Re: Repeating Alt Text of the current object Quentin Christensen #64515 Hi Darren, If you press NVDA+up arrow or NVDA+l to read the current line NVDA will read Graphic then whatever the alt text is. Regards Quentin. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:57 AM Gabbert, Darren <gabbertd@...> wrote: When I’m in Microsoft Word and in browse mode I can press g or Shift g to move from image to image. Is there a way to repeat the alt text of the image with focus? I don’t want to shift g and g, because I’m building a tutorial and don’t want the confusion. Thanks! Darren Darren Gabbert Sr. Business Operations Associate Adaptive Computing Technology Center University of Missouri Division of IT N-17 Memorial Union Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 673-5629 Fax: (314) 594-9909 *Darren@...* -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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