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Re: appModule, where to find help?

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

It appears the flame has died out from the candle i.e. we are missing very crucial information: we need the name of the app please. Without that, even if you report this problem to the development list (which I advise you do), we can't help you in resolving this with accurate answers.

Cheers,

Joseph
Re: Scope of the Calibre addon

Mallard
 

Hello,


As far as I nkow, ebooks in the Calibre Viewer are presented as images, or encrypted somehow, so they can't be read. In order to see the text, you have to use the OCR function in NVDA, which is absolutely out of the question.


When I asked the devs what is the reason behind this behaviour, I was told it's because of copyright...


It honestly escapes me why ebooks aer copyrighted only when a blind person has to read them, while sighted people can read the text without issues...


I'd somewhat understand this if it applied only to drm-protected books, but it applies to anything... Even to drm-free books.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 31/08/2019 14:27, Jens Gierke ha scritto:
Hi,

I'm irritated about the Calibre addon for NVDA. Does it allow reading
ebooks with Calibre or is it only to make use of the converter
capabilities? Even with the addon installed I'm not able to read any
book content in Calibre's ebook viewer. There is no browse mode and also
the review cursor/object navigation doesn't help.

Best regards,
Jens
Re: appModule, where to find help?

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Thanks Ralf.


When running NVDA with level log set to debug, going to the window, scrolling a bit and then opening the log, I do get the window's title in the NVDA object's name, but I don't see any text.  Perhaps the console is structured with every line of text being a different NVDA object, but even so I guess I should have been able to read the line in review mode and see the content of the line, perhaps in the value property.  That opens a new strategy though, I'll try to gather information on the entire window with systematic inspection of all children.  I'm just surprised it's so hard.


Thanks again,


Vincent

On 9/4/2019 12:38 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
Oops, I ment NVDA-F1...


-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. September 2019 12:37
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] appModule, where to find help?

Vincent,

If you can get the content with the screen review just go there and hit NVDA-1. That openes the NVDA log with all information of the object at the end of the file. There you will find the className and Control-ID. Maybe you can take it from there.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vincent Le Goff
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. September 2019 11:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] appModule, where to find help?

Hi list,


Sorry if I'm off-topic, should I have sent it to the development list? Isn't it trivial?


This has been asked many, many times (perhaps indicating this information is hard to find). So here I am, trying to implement yet a new appModule for a very specific reason and a very specific software. The software in question displays information in the console and this information isn't "spoken" automatically anymore by NVDA. Should be a simple fix right? But admittedly, it forces one to introspect on the generated NVDA objects and try to figure where the information is.


So I open the app. I press some keys. I can read the content in review mode just fine. I press NVDA+CTRL+Z to open the Python console and then inspect the 'focus', 'fg' and 'nav' objects (wasn't sure of the difference in the first place). All of them can, thank goodness, point to the window title in their name. But I can't find a way (either easy or complicated) to get to the window text, the one you can access with the review mode. So, since this can be accessed with numpad7 and numpad9, I guess NVDA can see it just fine. I would just like to automate, so that new lines of text are sent to NVDA and its supported Braille display if anything happens (yes, this used to work, but this would be a perfect opportunity to dive into appModules).


In short, I need some data. I would need to plug into some kind of event. I would need for my appModule to watch for this event and, when it triggers, optionally send some text to NVDA. How am I going to find the data itself? Shouldn't opening the app and opening the NVDA console and examining the generated object would have led to the answer? (For the record, I'm afraid I couldn't examine every single generated object, I concentrated on 'focus, 'fg' and 'nav, their parent and their parent's children, with no luck).


Any help on this would be appreciated.


Thanks in advance,


Vincent
Re: appModule, where to find help?

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Oops, I ment NVDA-F1...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. September 2019 12:37
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] appModule, where to find help?

Vincent,

If you can get the content with the screen review just go there and hit NVDA-1. That openes the NVDA log with all information of the object at the end of the file. There you will find the className and Control-ID. Maybe you can take it from there.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vincent Le Goff
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. September 2019 11:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] appModule, where to find help?

Hi list,


Sorry if I'm off-topic, should I have sent it to the development list? Isn't it trivial?


This has been asked many, many times (perhaps indicating this information is hard to find). So here I am, trying to implement yet a new appModule for a very specific reason and a very specific software. The software in question displays information in the console and this information isn't "spoken" automatically anymore by NVDA. Should be a simple fix right? But admittedly, it forces one to introspect on the generated NVDA objects and try to figure where the information is.


So I open the app. I press some keys. I can read the content in review mode just fine. I press NVDA+CTRL+Z to open the Python console and then inspect the 'focus', 'fg' and 'nav' objects (wasn't sure of the difference in the first place). All of them can, thank goodness, point to the window title in their name. But I can't find a way (either easy or complicated) to get to the window text, the one you can access with the review mode. So, since this can be accessed with numpad7 and numpad9, I guess NVDA can see it just fine. I would just like to automate, so that new lines of text are sent to NVDA and its supported Braille display if anything happens (yes, this used to work, but this would be a perfect opportunity to dive into appModules).


In short, I need some data. I would need to plug into some kind of event. I would need for my appModule to watch for this event and, when it triggers, optionally send some text to NVDA. How am I going to find the data itself? Shouldn't opening the app and opening the NVDA console and examining the generated object would have led to the answer? (For the record, I'm afraid I couldn't examine every single generated object, I concentrated on 'focus, 'fg' and 'nav, their parent and their parent's children, with no luck).


Any help on this would be appreciated.


Thanks in advance,


Vincent
Re: appModule, where to find help?

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Vincent,

If you can get the content with the screen review just go there and hit NVDA-1. That openes the NVDA log with all information of the object at the end of the file. There you will find the className and Control-ID. Maybe you can take it from there.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vincent Le Goff
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. September 2019 11:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] appModule, where to find help?

Hi list,


Sorry if I'm off-topic, should I have sent it to the development list? Isn't it trivial?


This has been asked many, many times (perhaps indicating this information is hard to find). So here I am, trying to implement yet a new appModule for a very specific reason and a very specific software. The software in question displays information in the console and this information isn't "spoken" automatically anymore by NVDA. Should be a simple fix right? But admittedly, it forces one to introspect on the generated NVDA objects and try to figure where the information is.


So I open the app. I press some keys. I can read the content in review mode just fine. I press NVDA+CTRL+Z to open the Python console and then inspect the 'focus', 'fg' and 'nav' objects (wasn't sure of the difference in the first place). All of them can, thank goodness, point to the window title in their name. But I can't find a way (either easy or complicated) to get to the window text, the one you can access with the review mode. So, since this can be accessed with numpad7 and numpad9, I guess NVDA can see it just fine. I would just like to automate, so that new lines of text are sent to NVDA and its supported Braille display if anything happens (yes, this used to work, but this would be a perfect opportunity to dive into appModules).


In short, I need some data. I would need to plug into some kind of event. I would need for my appModule to watch for this event and, when it triggers, optionally send some text to NVDA. How am I going to find the data itself? Shouldn't opening the app and opening the NVDA console and examining the generated object would have led to the answer? (For the record, I'm afraid I couldn't examine every single generated object, I concentrated on 'focus, 'fg' and 'nav, their parent and their parent's children, with no luck).


Any help on this would be appreciated.


Thanks in advance,


Vincent
appModule, where to find help?

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Hi list,


Sorry if I'm off-topic, should I have sent it to the development list?  Isn't it trivial?


This has been asked many, many times (perhaps indicating this information is hard to find).  So here I am, trying to implement yet a new appModule for a very specific reason and a very specific software.  The software in question displays information in the console and this information isn't "spoken" automatically anymore by NVDA.  Should be a simple fix right?  But admittedly, it forces one to introspect on the generated NVDA objects and try to figure where the information is.


So I open the app.  I press some keys.  I can read the content in review mode just fine.  I press NVDA+CTRL+Z to open the Python console and then inspect the 'focus', 'fg' and 'nav' objects (wasn't sure of the difference in the first place).  All of them can, thank goodness, point to the window title in their name.  But I can't find a way (either easy or complicated) to get to the window text, the one you can access with the review mode.  So, since this can be accessed with numpad7 and numpad9, I guess NVDA can see it just fine.  I would just like to automate, so that new lines of text are sent to NVDA and its supported Braille display if anything happens (yes, this used to work, but this would be a perfect opportunity to dive into appModules).


In short, I need some data.  I would need to plug into some kind of event.  I would need for my appModule to watch for this event and, when it triggers, optionally send some text to NVDA.  How am I going to find the data itself?  Shouldn't opening the app and opening the NVDA console and examining the generated object would have led to the answer?  (For the record, I'm afraid I couldn't examine every single generated object, I concentrated on 'focus, 'fg' and 'nav, their parent and their parent's children, with no luck).


Any help on this would be appreciated.


Thanks in advance,


Vincent
Re: reading from mouse pointer

willmac@lantic.net
 

Hi Qnton,

Thank you for your response.

It seems t have improved reading from the mouse pointer except were three Headings in the Email in which case reading is about 5 lines below the pointer.

I checked this with Windows Narrator and get the same result.  I think I can get to live with it.

Many thanks for your help.

Regards,

William
Re: Can't run NVDA with admin rights on a MS Surface

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi James,

Interesting, I hadn't encountered this before, although I personally don't have a Surface laptop - which model do you have?  And which build of Windows are they running?

As you've found with your Lenovo's, the general advice I gave should usually work, but evidently there is something different happening with the Surface.  Can you get me a copy of the nvda.log and maybe the nvda-old.log files from the %temp% folder on one of the surface machines (ideally from when it was installed, and from when it wouldn't start, rather than the portable copy).

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:12 PM <james.luxton@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

I installed the software with an admin account and can run the software without issues on the admin account.  When I log in as a standard user, NVDA will not run and this is only an issue on Microsoft Surface laptops(All our Lenovo units run fine).  Currently I am running NVDA in Portable mode to get my users up and running but I was hoping to resolve the standard install.

Thank you,
James



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...>
 

Hello Quinten,

Thank you very much for your helpful email. I have emailed some folks listed on the NVDA certification page – and I wouldn’t have known that  such a page existed without your email. Thanks again.
Sincerely,

Terrie

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen

Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 10:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hi Terrie,

 

There are some great experts here on the list and I am confident one will step forward for you.  Another place you might consider looking is the NVDA Certified Experts list.  Along with their basic details, many of the people on the list who do provide services such as training have also included their contact or business details.  You can find the list here: https://certification.nvaccess.org

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:31 AM Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...> wrote:

If anyone is a solid, regular user of NVDA with the Dictation Bridge add-on and Dragon Dictate and would like to do 4-6 hours of paid tutoring, please contact me. I want to use these resources to dictate and thereby digitize volumes  of brailled materials. I also want to teach a friend whose fingers cannot keyboard how to control her computer, do email, write documents, and use the Internet. Hourly payment rate is competitive and negotiable. Please consider contacting me off list if you have the requisite skills. Thank you very much.

Terrie Terlau

Email address: terrieter@...

 

I am computer savvy, but want to learn from someone who already knows what they are doing rather than reinventing the wheel.

Thank you again for considering this job.

Warm regards,

Terrie Terlau

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 
Re: Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...>
 

Hello Dan,

I will let you know about whom I find as a tutor. Thanks.

Terrie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hi there Terry, If you get someone, I would like to get the same training.  I have been looking for some help with this for a while.

Glad to see your email and hope someone responds.

 

I would also pay for the training. God bless.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 10:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hello Quentin,

Thank you so very much for this very helpful information. I really appreciate it.

Terrie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 10:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hi Terrie,

 

There are some great experts here on the list and I am confident one will step forward for you.  Another place you might consider looking is the NVDA Certified Experts list.  Along with their basic details, many of the people on the list who do provide services such as training have also included their contact or business details.  You can find the list here: https://certification.nvaccess.org

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:31 AM Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...> wrote:

If anyone is a solid, regular user of NVDA with the Dictation Bridge add-on and Dragon Dictate and would like to do 4-6 hours of paid tutoring, please contact me. I want to use these resources to dictate and thereby digitize volumes  of brailled materials. I also want to teach a friend whose fingers cannot keyboard how to control her computer, do email, write documents, and use the Internet. Hourly payment rate is competitive and negotiable. Please consider contacting me off list if you have the requisite skills. Thank you very much.

Terrie Terlau

Email address: terrieter@...

 

I am computer savvy, but want to learn from someone who already knows what they are doing rather than reinventing the wheel.

Thank you again for considering this job.

Warm regards,

Terrie Terlau

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 
Re: Can't run NVDA with admin rights on a MS Surface

james.luxton@...
 

Hi Quentin,

I installed the software with an admin account and can run the software without issues on the admin account.  When I log in as a standard user, NVDA will not run and this is only an issue on Microsoft Surface laptops(All our Lenovo units run fine).  Currently I am running NVDA in Portable mode to get my users up and running but I was hoping to resolve the standard install.

Thank you,
James
Re: Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

Dan Thompson
 

Hi there Terry, If you get someone, I would like to get the same training.  I have been looking for some help with this for a while.

Glad to see your email and hope someone responds.

 

I would also pay for the training. God bless.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 10:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hello Quentin,

Thank you so very much for this very helpful information. I really appreciate it.

Terrie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 10:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hi Terrie,

 

There are some great experts here on the list and I am confident one will step forward for you.  Another place you might consider looking is the NVDA Certified Experts list.  Along with their basic details, many of the people on the list who do provide services such as training have also included their contact or business details.  You can find the list here: https://certification.nvaccess.org

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:31 AM Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...> wrote:

If anyone is a solid, regular user of NVDA with the Dictation Bridge add-on and Dragon Dictate and would like to do 4-6 hours of paid tutoring, please contact me. I want to use these resources to dictate and thereby digitize volumes  of brailled materials. I also want to teach a friend whose fingers cannot keyboard how to control her computer, do email, write documents, and use the Internet. Hourly payment rate is competitive and negotiable. Please consider contacting me off list if you have the requisite skills. Thank you very much.

Terrie Terlau

Email address: terrieter@...

 

I am computer savvy, but want to learn from someone who already knows what they are doing rather than reinventing the wheel.

Thank you again for considering this job.

Warm regards,

Terrie Terlau

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 
Re: Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...>
 

Hello Quentin,

Thank you so very much for this very helpful information. I really appreciate it.

Terrie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 10:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

 

Hi Terrie,

 

There are some great experts here on the list and I am confident one will step forward for you.  Another place you might consider looking is the NVDA Certified Experts list.  Along with their basic details, many of the people on the list who do provide services such as training have also included their contact or business details.  You can find the list here: https://certification.nvaccess.org

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:31 AM Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...> wrote:

If anyone is a solid, regular user of NVDA with the Dictation Bridge add-on and Dragon Dictate and would like to do 4-6 hours of paid tutoring, please contact me. I want to use these resources to dictate and thereby digitize volumes  of brailled materials. I also want to teach a friend whose fingers cannot keyboard how to control her computer, do email, write documents, and use the Internet. Hourly payment rate is competitive and negotiable. Please consider contacting me off list if you have the requisite skills. Thank you very much.

Terrie Terlau

Email address: terrieter@...

 

I am computer savvy, but want to learn from someone who already knows what they are doing rather than reinventing the wheel.

Thank you again for considering this job.

Warm regards,

Terrie Terlau

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 
Re: Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Terrie,

There are some great experts here on the list and I am confident one will step forward for you.  Another place you might consider looking is the NVDA Certified Experts list.  Along with their basic details, many of the people on the list who do provide services such as training have also included their contact or business details.  You can find the list here: https://certification.nvaccess.org

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:31 AM Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...> wrote:

If anyone is a solid, regular user of NVDA with the Dictation Bridge add-on and Dragon Dictate and would like to do 4-6 hours of paid tutoring, please contact me. I want to use these resources to dictate and thereby digitize volumes  of brailled materials. I also want to teach a friend whose fingers cannot keyboard how to control her computer, do email, write documents, and use the Internet. Hourly payment rate is competitive and negotiable. Please consider contacting me off list if you have the requisite skills. Thank you very much.

Terrie Terlau

Email address: terrieter@...

 

I am computer savvy, but want to learn from someone who already knows what they are doing rather than reinventing the wheel.

Thank you again for considering this job.

Warm regards,

Terrie Terlau

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Paid Tutor For NVDA, Dictation Bridge, Dragon Dictate

Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...>
 

If anyone is a solid, regular user of NVDA with the Dictation Bridge add-on and Dragon Dictate and would like to do 4-6 hours of paid tutoring, please contact me. I want to use these resources to dictate and thereby digitize volumes  of brailled materials. I also want to teach a friend whose fingers cannot keyboard how to control her computer, do email, write documents, and use the Internet. Hourly payment rate is competitive and negotiable. Please consider contacting me off list if you have the requisite skills. Thank you very much.

Terrie Terlau

Email address: terrieter@...

 

I am computer savvy, but want to learn from someone who already knows what they are doing rather than reinventing the wheel.

Thank you again for considering this job.

Warm regards,

Terrie Terlau

 
Re: Dictation Bridge

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

Without going into details, yes, it is in the works.

Cheers,

Joseph
Windows 10 App Essentials 19.09.1 stable #addonrelease

Joseph Lee
 

Hi everyone,

 

In a few hours Windows 10 App Essentials 19.09.1 will be ready for you to download (or update). The biggest change is a new way to detect Windows 10 Version 1909 (19H2) builds.

 

Cheers,

Joseph
Re: anyone had this issue when updating the latest windows update aug302019

lynn white
 

Since I updated, my external card does not work with all applications as it did before.

I did a system restore and now it works with Sound Forge but not with Station Play List. It defaults back to my laptop and that is not good.
Dictation Bridge

Dark Count
 

Any idea if dictation bridge is compatible with 19.3 yet?


D C
Re: Next virtual NVDA convention

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all,

 

the NVDACon will most probably take place in November this year, we will post a final date in about two weeks.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Michael Munn
Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. September 2019 17:46
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Next virtual NVDA convention

 

Hi all,do any of you know when is the next NVDA Virtual Conference/convention? I'm currently making a calendar for the up coming 2020 conferences and convention such as the NFB and ACB Conventions.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best regards 

Michael Munn Michael Munn

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