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Re: Identifying capital letters
Giles,
As both a regular expression geek, and someone who's spent a lot of time in the halls of academe over the years, I would really suggest that you hire yourself a proofreader. And I'm not saying this because you're blind, either. An experienced proofreader can pick up on all sorts of stuff, very quickly, without knowing anything much at all about the subject matter as that's not what their focus is. If you are doing a master's thesis it is well worth the money to hire a proofreader if at all possible. The only way I have ever been able to proof my own material is if I set it aside after writing it for some time before revisiting it again, as just "knowing what I meant to put there" often results in my seeing what's not there, but instead what I had intended. That's a luxury, time-wise, that one does not have with theses in general. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Clock-19.09-dev
#addontesting
Abdel
Hi Robert,
Le 30/08/2019 à 13:56, Robert Doc
Wright godfearer a écrit :
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Re: Identifying capital letters
given the suggestions about regular expression searches, would it be possible to write a regular expression for NVDA's speech dictionary where a capital letter anywehre gets spoken as, for example, Home as "capital Home," or hOme as "h capitl Ome?"
That would enable me to listen from start to end, something I'm going to need to do before submission, and hear any cap;capitals as I go? Thanks for the suggested regular expressions, Luke :) Giles
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Re: ALVA 544 Satellite Traveller braille display with NVDA
J.G
Hello,
as I have tested successfully, you have 2 choyses. the first is relatively expensive but very useful. if you can, borrow or buy also protocol converter from Optelec (support has ended) which introduce satellite displays to system as BC displays. second is that you buy srs232 converter it means, if you have only usb ports on your pc, that you plug in usb side into pc and the other side of converter (serial called also rs232) connect with cable to alva's serial port. In this case you should use brltty. remember: you must know on which com port a display is connected, so you can setup brltty. and if you use brltty, do not use usb connection on windows with this display. hope it helps. regards, Jožef p.s. braille extender addon cannot help.
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Re: Identifying capital letters
Luke Davis
Giles, unfortunately there is no such functionality in NVDA.
An add-on for this could be written, but to my knowledge at least, one hasn't. As Chris suggested, however, if you have an editor which supports regular expression searches, you may be able to find (most of) the problem areas. This regexp: [\.\?!] +[a-z]|[a-zA-Z0-9,\+\)\]\"\'\`-] [A-Z]|^ *[a-z] Finds every capitalization error in the following test text, with no false positives, using Notepad++ with case sensitive searching (you must use case sensitive searching, of course). This is the first line, and shouldn't be found. This Is the second line. It should be targeted because of "is". This is the third, And should be captured like the 2nd! twice! This fourth line shouldn't be found. but this 5th line should. The regexp above only works assuming certain sentence ending characters, and word boundary characters. Character sets can break it, different punctuation style can break it, almost anything can break it. There are probably more robust ways to write it, using more agnostic word boundary characters and such. I am in a hurry, so I will leave improving it to Brian and others, but it's a start I think. Good luck. Luke
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Re: Identifying capital letters
Chris Mullins
Hi Giles You could try editing your text using an editor that supports search using a regular expression, such as EdSharp. You could set a pattern of capital letters not preceded by a period, one or more space characters and or line break characters. I’m sorry I don’t have the knowhow to give you the pattern but I’m sure there are RE experts on the list who could provide this for you.
Good luck Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: 7 September 2019 10:20 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Identifying capital letters
Hi all,
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Re: Buttons and links not reading.
Hi.
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Is there some way to use some of the portable NVDA files for the installed NVDA? The portable one which is also an older version does say link or button before reading the link or button however, the latest portable version of NVDA has the same problem as the installed version of NVDA. Chantelle
On 9/6/19, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
You probably got that damn optional update then support told you to --
Never give up, at any cost.
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Identifying capital letters
Hi all,
I am well aware of the NVDA settings for indicating capital letters with beeps or saying "cap" before capitals and the pitch change to indicate capitls. What I really want to find a way to do is to use my preferred option (beep for capitals) when using read-all. The capital indications only seem to be performed when reading character-by-character. I'm writing up my 6,000-word MA degree dissertation and my supervisor noticed there were a few instances where I'd added some text at the start of an existing sentence and forgotten to turn the old first letter to lower case. The only way I could detect that would be by reading the 34,869 characters one by one and listening for the beep. That is not an option! Is there any way to get the capital indication to be active during read-all? Thanks, Giles
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Luke Davis
Ibrahim
You wrote: Secondly, when I attempt to install some downloaded programs, and IAre you using an installed copy of NVDA, or a portable copy? If you are using a portable copy, and you try to run an installer, and it tries to use elevated privileges, you won't be able to hear what's happening. If you are using an installed copy of NVDA, and you don't have it set to speak on secure screens (nvda menu, preferences, settings, general), you will have problems. If it is neither of those things, then it is specific to the installer. We would have to know what the installer is, in order to help you. There is no "usual" way of dealing with this, it depends on the factors of the situation. Luke
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:02 PM, Blaster wrote:
This particular form traps you in some type of simulated wordYep, though I was able to make it around just a bit using NVDA object navigation, but it's still not anything like what I'd consider accessible. I'd hoped one might be able to compose in a word processor and then copy/paste into that composition box, but it doesn't even carry over the formatting, which most web forums I use actually do, or at least retain things like links, etc. It's visually striking, looking almost like a word processor, but these behaviors with regard to accessibility as well as tossing common HTML formatting when copying from MS-Word and pasting in is really strange. If nothing else, it's worth complaining to the site owner about the state of affairs. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Blaster
This particular form traps you in some type of simulated word
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processor. If your familiar with the WordPress classic editor it's very similar. Your stuck in a textbox with text formatting buttons above it like, bold, Italic, Indent, Add photo, ect… Your trapped in the textbox area. I was able to bounce around a little bit more with JAWS, but not in any meaningful way. I'm doubtful anyone will have a solution to using this website.
On 9/6/19, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Some forms have issues,
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Some forms have issues,
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Sometimes you will have to exit forms mode and move down to the next field. Sometimes the forms themselves are badly coded. Setting things up that say setup. It could be a self extracter and you hit the space button and they work or a visual installer. If its a visual installer, chances are you can probably still extract it with something like 7zip, and run the setup inside the installer itself and its ok or use nvda ocr or narator on it. Chance is you can still use alt n for next, alt b for back, alt c for cancel, alt i for install or alt s for start, alt y or n for licence aggreements. I do get different language installers that do this to.
On 7/09/2019 11:52 am, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Blaster
Ibrahim, I subscribed to that website and then followed your link and
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had the exact same experience. I tried using JAWS and had the same results. It would be surprising to me if anyone could navigate such an inaccessible website. If, by chance, the program your trying to install is the Bluestacks android emulater, it too is inaccessible. At least it was the last time I tried to install it. The Android OS is open source, and that's a good thing, however it also means there are no accessibility standards imposed on programmers and they may be totally unaware that accessibility code exists. Anyway, more experienced NVDA users may have answers for you. Good luck, Blaster
On 9/6/19, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...> wrote:
Hello:
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Unfortunately, I'm not a member at the Android Central forums. Let's hope someone else here is.
It is possible for you to try doing a reply on the Groups.io web interface to this very topic, to see if you have the same issue with the rich text editor? That would at least let us know whether the issue is site specific or not. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Hello:
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This is the link: https://forums.androidcentral.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=1474 When I get in to the dialog, and type the headline of the problem, and I get to the next field with the tab key, that says rich text editor, I am unable to get out and not even to get back to the previous field. Ibrahim.
On 9/7/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
It would also help to have direct links to the installers that are being
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Gene is correct with regard to the original topic title, "Contact," being completely non-specific and unrelated to the actual issues. This is the very reason that NVDA Group Rule #4 came into existence:
4. Think very carefully about the title you are going to give any topic you post. The topic is the first (and, sometimes, only) thing a member sees and that may be how they decide if they’re going to look further. Generic titles, such as “Help Me!,” are not helpful because they give no idea about what. Compare that to something like, “NVDA not reading Excel cell contents,” or, “NVDA setting for pronouncing numbers,” where the exact issue where help is needed is front and center. Even something like, “Need help with the following . . .,” lets the reader know that you are going to present a list of issues. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
It would also help to have direct links to the installers that are being problematic.
Working with these sorts of arcane problems generally requires direct contact with the items that are misbehaving if one hopes to get a resolution. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Blaster
Can you post a link to that form your unable to fill out or is it private?
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On 9/6/19, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...> wrote:
Hi good people:
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One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Gene
First, the subject line has absolutely nothing to do with the
message. I changed it.
I’m not sure what accounts for the second problem. I doubt we can
address the first problem unless we can go to the page you are working with
where the problem occurs.
Gene
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From: Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 6:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Contact Hi
good people: Please I have two different issues I will like addressed. The first issue has to do with filling out some details on a form fill on a website. When I got to the site, and I typed in some information in to the first dialog box, I am unable to move out of that field, to the next. I used the escape key, but it didn't work. I had to shut down the browser all together. Please has anyone ever had this problem? how did you solve it. I hope the issue is well understood. Secondly, when I attempt to install some downloaded programs, and I get to the set up point, all I hear is set up, and nothing happens: has anyone ever had this problem? how did you resolve it. How did you eventually set up the program. thanking you in advance for your help. Ibrahim.
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One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer
Hi good people:
Please I have two different issues I will like addressed. The first issue has to do with filling out some details on a form fill on a website. When I got to the site, and I typed in some information in to the first dialog box, I am unable to move out of that field, to the next. I used the escape key, but it didn't work. I had to shut down the browser all together. Please has anyone ever had this problem? how did you solve it. I hope the issue is well understood. Secondly, when I attempt to install some downloaded programs, and I get to the set up point, all I hear is set up, and nothing happens: has anyone ever had this problem? how did you resolve it. How did you eventually set up the program. thanking you in advance for your help. Ibrahim.
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