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Re: Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window Luke #65135 Hi! I know I’m late to the party but just seeing this thread right now. Yes I have the same problem when in the message body using the arrow keys it reads the text very inconsistent. I’m 95% sure it has always done this using the Mail app, but I have only been using the Mail app for about four months. As of right now I’m using NVDA 19.2 but earlier it would have been 19.1 and 19.1.1. I notice it does work with windows narrator though. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:51 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote: We may be at cross purposes. Control Y whilst focussed on the Inbox , just as in Outlook, will allow quick navigation to all your email folders for all the accounts you have. Simply use the cursor keys to move up and down the folder list and press enter on the folder you want to navigate to. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: 12 August 2019 04:29 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in emailcomposition window How does this affect the various folders for each account? If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Griffith Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:54 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in emailcomposition window I have my email accounts linked into a single inbox but If I want to review mail by accounts I simply press control Y to bring up the folder list and then cursor down to the account I want to review. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: 10 August 2019 08:05 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in emailcomposition window I do not know why you are having this problem. I have been using the windows 10 mail app for the last three years. When I open an email I just use the down arrow to read. What I would prefer is that the messages AKA list of emails were next to all accounts. I have several email accounts and when I am done with one I need to tab five times to change accounts. If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Moore Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 5:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window hello all! I am so glad that you brought that up about how the Windows mail app is acting. I have had exactly the same problem in the Windows 10 mail app, what I have to do, is use the review cursor reading commands to read the mail message with the review cursor, find where I want to edit, and then press the key command to move the focus to where the review cursor is, and then I can cracked my mistakes. The the review cursor is the only way I can read an email. You are cracked, if I simply use the up and down arrow keys the focus will not say the correct text at all for what is on each line and the message that you are typing in the mail app. Nvda has not worked well in the Windows 10 mail app for a long time when it comes to typing, reading, and doing just about anything with messages. I have to use many round about ways to even use the Windows 10 mail app oh, like I said, I have to read messages with the review cursor. David Moore
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Re: thunderbird Brian Vogel #65134 By frequent contributor Gene NZ: Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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In-Process 13th September 2019 Quentin Christensen #65133 Hi everyone, In this week's In-Process, info on NVDACon, and details of some of the exciting fixes and features coming in NVDA 2019.3, including several highly anticipated inclusions. https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-13th-september/ -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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thunderbird Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...> #65132 i need a tutorial to use thunderbird with NVDA thanks
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Re: Bluetooth problem John J. Boyer #65131 Hello, Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message. as a result I have concluded that theBluetooth chip in my computer is probably incompatible with a recent Microsoft update. I have an Acer notebook computer with Windows 10 Pro. It was doing fine until a few weeks ago. We will try to find the correct driver and install it. John toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:41:11AM -0700, Tony Malykh wrote: My add-on won't help here unfortunately - since it only works with audio devices. I have experienced similar connectivity problems a while ago with my bluetooth headphones and it was resolved after installing new bluetooth drivers. Judging by the symptoms you're describing your problem indeed sounds like a driver issue. Disabling power saving options for bluetooth seems to be a reasonable thing to try, but if it doesn't help - update your drivers. You'd have to figure out the name of your bluetooth chip and find most recent drivers for it - this is what helped in my case. --Tony On 9/11/2019 8:39 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote: Hi John, I wonder if Tony Malykh's bluetooth audio addon might help. It is intended to stop the computer's blue tooth from going into standby for audio purposes, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for your Braille device's bluetooth connection too. This is the web link: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html And this, copied from the addon page, explains how it works: "Most bluetooth devices enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. That means that when NVDA starts speaking again, the first split second of sound will be lost. Bluetooth Audio add-on prevents bluetooth devices from entering standby mode by constantly playing a silent sound, that is inaudible to a human ear." Hope it helps :) Giles -- John J. Boyer Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost
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Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app Rui Fontes #65130 Sorry, but, please, tell me where... As I said, please, give me a step to step to get there... Rui Fontes Às 23:06 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text There is a main box with all the objects and the like, and a lot of buttons the app can not be navigated as such either. On 13/09/2019 9:56 am, Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! Please, let me know what combobox is inaccessible... Give me a step to step guide for those inaccessible comboboxes... Rui Fontes Às 22:02 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu: you go here https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon However I wouldn't bother. The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever. The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda. The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github. Now this is from a user looking at this briefly. The addon works. But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me. I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does. There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list. If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software. There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters. Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really. In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning. If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces. Hopefully you won't need to do that that often. The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for. Anything else and well who knows. The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it. The web interface is accessible enough for most users. If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this. The brother printer is like that. On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote: Hello Rui. I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp. Please. How do I install this addon? Thanks. Bob On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints... The code is available in: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher Direct download: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app Shaun Everiss #65129 There is a main box with all the objects and the like, and a lot of buttons the app can not be navigated as such either. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 13/09/2019 9:56 am, Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! Please, let me know what combobox is inaccessible... Give me a step to step guide for those inaccessible comboboxes... Rui Fontes Às 22:02 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu: you go here https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon However I wouldn't bother. The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever. The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda. The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github. Now this is from a user looking at this briefly. The addon works. But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me. I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does. There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list. If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software. There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters. Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really. In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning. If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces. Hopefully you won't need to do that that often. The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for. Anything else and well who knows. The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it. The web interface is accessible enough for most users. If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this. The brother printer is like that. On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote: Hello Rui. I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp. Please. How do I install this addon? Thanks. Bob On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints... The code is available in: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher Direct download: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app Rui Fontes #65128 Hello! Please, let me know what combobox is inaccessible... Give me a step to step guide for those inaccessible comboboxes... Rui Fontes Às 22:02 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text you go here https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon However I wouldn't bother. The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever. The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda. The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github. Now this is from a user looking at this briefly. The addon works. But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me. I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does. There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list. If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software. There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters. Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really. In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning. If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces. Hopefully you won't need to do that that often. The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for. Anything else and well who knows. The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it. The web interface is accessible enough for most users. If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this. The brother printer is like that. On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote: Hello Rui. I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp. Please. How do I install this addon? Thanks. Bob On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints... The code is available in: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher Direct download: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Re: NVDA pronouncing "no" as "number" with some widgets but only with Microsoft synthesizers Luke Davis #65127 slugolicious and others interested Solved as follows... In my testing with notepad, with MS voices, I was able to get the "no" as "number" behavior, only when there really was a number after it. "no. 1" "no 1" "no 1" All spoke as "number 1", while "no", with or without period, in any other usages, spoke as "no". Presumptuous, but implemented intelligently. So then I took slugolicious's actual original test case, and ran that in Firefox. I was able to replicate the dropdown behavior, where "no" is stated as "number". Looking at the NVDA debug log, it is clear why this is happening: in certain contexts, the number of options is announced as "2 of 2" or similar. What is being sent to the synth is "no 2 of 2", which in any other circumstance should be spoken as "number 2" a vast majority of the time. Further, since there seems to always be two spaces placed between the word and its option position whether there are 2, 99, or 110 options (I tested), we can fix this with a rather narrow regular expression. Using a speech dictionary specifically for Microsoft David, I did a case-insensitive regular expression as follows: Pattern: \Ano(?= \d) Replacement: know Note the double space inside the parenthesized portion of the expression. All "no" as "number" cases still work, except the very particular case of the word "no", followed by two spaces, followed by a digit, which is now pronounced as "no" not "number". (Actually it's pronounced as "know", which in English is the same thing.) Hth Luke
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Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app Shaun Everiss #65126 you go here https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon However I wouldn't bother. The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever. The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda. The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github. Now this is from a user looking at this briefly. The addon works. But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me. I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does. There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list. If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software. There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters. Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really. In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning. If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces. Hopefully you won't need to do that that often. The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for. Anything else and well who knows. The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it. The web interface is accessible enough for most users. If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this. The brother printer is like that. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote: Hello Rui. I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp. Please. How do I install this addon? Thanks. Bob On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints... The code is available in: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher Direct download: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Re: NVDA pronouncing "no" as "number" with some widgets but only with Microsoft synthesizers Luke Davis #65125 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, Brian Vogel wrote: Luke, [Nn][Oo]\.* (\d+) number \2 was a mistake with the \2, it should have been \1I do not understand the need for the double backslashes in your: ([Nn][Oo]\\.)(?= \\d+) as that means you are actually escaping the backslash. Right you are. In my defense, the double backslashes weren't in the original versions of those. I wrote them in Python, and when I was done, I printed the variables and copied and pasted without looking. I am very unclear why it escaped the backslashes. I apologize. It originally said: ([Nn][Oo]\.)(?= \d+) Luke
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Re: Equalizer Brian Vogel #65124 Ame, If you want me to try to do a "deep dive" into this, and you can provide screen shots, let's take this to the Chat Subgroup, as it really has nothing to do with NVDA. Post: chat@nvda.groups.io Subscribe: chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Equalizer Ame #65123 Well, I’ve tweaked so many of them it’s hard to remember which ones I set where. I’d like to shave off a little more between 400 and 600 hz. Doesn’t seem to wanna do that for me without making something else weird happen. No distortion or anything but it seems to want to make something else stick out. I’ve fine tuned it as much as I can. I know those are the frequencies I needed to tone down because I’ve experimented with stuff in Audacity and I got the desired result. Don’t need much, just a little bit… five, maybe six db?
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Re: NVDA pronouncing "no" as "number" with some widgets but only with Microsoft synthesizers Brian Vogel #65122 Oddly enough, using regular expression: [Nn][Oo]\. works. It requires that the N O be followed by the period, and in any instance where it is you get Number. There is an issue, though, if no is at the very end of a sentence. I can't seem to find a way to effectively say, "but not at the end of a sentence," at least not yet. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app Robert Logue #65121 Hello Rui. I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp. Please. How do I install this addon? Thanks. Bob toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote: Hello! It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints... The code is available in: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher Direct download: https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon Best regards, Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Tiflotecnia, Lda.
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Re: Equalizer Brian Vogel #65120 What setting are you using on the Realtek? They've generally got a "Custom" that allows all controls to be operated independently of each other. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Equalizer Ame #65119 Hi all! Still on the lookout for an NVDA user friendly eq. Thanks to Jaffar Sidek for his kindness in sharing info on Equalizer APO but I don’t have the programming smarts to operate that one. There are too many variables I know nothing about. Can anybody recommend one that you just open and use the little sliders to tweak various bands? My Realtek HD eq’s good but I’m having trouble dumbing down a couple frequencies. Try to turn those down and it boosts others and makes everything sound like you’ve got cups over the speakers. Lol Thanks for your help in advance.
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Re: NVDA pronouncing "no" as "number" with some widgets but only with Microsoft synthesizers Brian Vogel #65118 Luke, [Nn][Oo]\.* (\d+) number \2 was a mistake with the \2, it should have been \1 I do not understand the need for the double backslashes in your: ([Nn][Oo]\\.)(?= \\d+) as that means you are actually escaping the backslash. And running this through the Regex101.com engines confirms that. I get the "don't consume" bit, but try to avoid using that myself. All of the above being said, I did a cut and past of your regular expression for the number abbreviation situation, and am still getting NVDA saying "No" for it. Notepad file of test phrases is: No, I won't go. No no no Chanel No. 5 Space no. 763 No. 7 --------------------------------------------- Something's off here. I even still get the no pronunciation if I take those double backslashes out and use singles: ([Nn][Oo]\.)(?= \d+) The Regex101 engines all show that matching the classic N O period abbreviation for number, but NVDA is not saying Number when that's used. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Clock-19.09 #addonrelease Abdel #65117 Hello Robert, For this, you can subscribe to the nvda-addons mailing list on groups.io: https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons Or dev-learning: https://nvda.groups.io/g/devlearning There are also online tutorials. NVDA 2019.2 Developer Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html NVDA Add on Development Guide: https://github.com/nvdaaddons/DevGuide/wiki/NVDA-Add-on-Development-Guide Hope this helps. Kind regards, Abdel. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Le 12/09/2019 à 12:48, Robert Doc Wright godfearer a écrit : I wish I knew enough to do this. There are some things I would like to contribute for SPL Creator. **** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Abdel Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Cc: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io Subject:** [nvda] Clock-19.09 #AddonRelease Hi everyone, It's been 2 weeks since the 19.09 development version of the Clock add-on has been released. As no bug was reported during this period, I announce the release of the stable version 19.09. This version of the add-on is downloadable here, it is also available by clicking on the stable version" link on the community website, as well as with addonUpdater: https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=cac As announced earlier, this release fixes a bug that occurred when the start time was greater than the end time in quiet hours. Thanks. Kind regards, Abdel.
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Re: Clock-19.09 #addonrelease Robert Doc Wright godfearer #65116 I wish I knew enough to do this. There are some things I would like to contribute for SPL Creator. **** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Abdel Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Cc: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io Subject:** [nvda] Clock-19.09 #AddonRelease Hi everyone, It's been 2 weeks since the 19.09 development version of the Clock add-on has been released. As no bug was reported during this period, I announce the release of the stable version 19.09. This version of the add-on is downloadable here, it is also available by clicking on the stable version" link on the community website, as well as with addonUpdater: https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=cac As announced earlier, this release fixes a bug that occurred when the start time was greater than the end time in quiet hours. Thanks. Kind regards, Abdel.
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