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Re: Windows 10 Notifications?

Stephen W. Wise
 

Hi,

?????? Depending on the version of Windows you are using-Windows 10 1903 exhibits this behavior-the key has now been remapped by Microsoft in 1903 to allow the ability to view different things copied to the clipboard, now. In this situation, it would appear that Windows Key + A is the alternative to this change. If you aren't running this version of windows perhaps you could indicate your version on your system since some features change as Microsoft releases new feature sets and updates for Windows.


Stephen

On 9/12/2019 9:01 PM, Clement Chou wrote:
Seems like my NVDA has stopped reading them out loud when they come up
with the latest update... and the windows+v shortcut no longer works
to bring up the popup. Anyne got any pointers here? I'm a little
mystified. Thanks!


Re: NVDA command to copy a link

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thanks quenten
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

Note that control+c doesn't work if you select the link (or anything) with the mouse - if you've used the mouse to select, then press the applications key to bring up the context menu, and choose "copy".

In many cases, if you navigate to a link, you can use the applications key to bring up the context menu and choose "copy link location" or "copy link address".

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:01 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
select the link, then copy control c
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



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Re: NVDA command to copy a link

 

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 09:31 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Try Shift-F10
Yep.  SHIFT+F10 is the "universal replacement" for an applications/menu key.   I use it almost exclusively since I move among machines, some of which don't have the applications/menu key on the keyboard.

I've also found at least one occasion when installing Windows 10 that I cannot get a response using the applications/menu key but always can using SHIFT+F10
 
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Re: NVDA command to copy a link

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Pascal, SHIFT+F10 is the alternate way of bringing up the context menu to pressing the applications key (or clicking the right mouse button).  If it's copying the link above, it might be that you are in between links (at the end of the first link and the start of the second link), in which case, try pressing the right arrow.

The only reason I mentioned the mouse in the first place was that I know that is one situation where selecting text and then using control+c doesn't copy, you shouldn't need to use the mouse to copy if you don't otherwise use the mouse.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:21 AM Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.  My keyboard does not have an application key.

Sorry for being such a novice, how do you copy with the mouse?  Is there an alternative to using the application key?  Sometimes I used the shift-f9 which provides a menu that has a copy link command.  Unfortunately, for some reason it at times copies the link above the one I am interested in copying.

Many thanks for your help.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

 

Note that control+c doesn't work if you select the link (or anything) with the mouse - if you've used the mouse to select, then press the applications key to bring up the context menu, and choose "copy".

 

In many cases, if you navigate to a link, you can use the applications key to bring up the context menu and choose "copy link location" or "copy link address".

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:01 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

select the link, then copy control c

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

 

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


 

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Training and Support Manager

 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA command to copy a link

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Try Shift-F10.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Sep 12, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...> wrote:



Hi Quentin,

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.  My keyboard does not have an application key.

Sorry for being such a novice, how do you copy with the mouse?  Is there an alternative to using the application key?  Sometimes I used the shift-f9 which provides a menu that has a copy link command.  Unfortunately, for some reason it at times copies the link above the one I am interested in copying.

Many thanks for your help.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

 

Note that control+c doesn't work if you select the link (or anything) with the mouse - if you've used the mouse to select, then press the applications key to bring up the context menu, and choose "copy".

 

In many cases, if you navigate to a link, you can use the applications key to bring up the context menu and choose "copy link location" or "copy link address".

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:01 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

select the link, then copy control c

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

 

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: NVDA command to copy a link

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi Quentin,

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.  My keyboard does not have an application key.

Sorry for being such a novice, how do you copy with the mouse?  Is there an alternative to using the application key?  Sometimes I used the shift-f9 which provides a menu that has a copy link command.  Unfortunately, for some reason it at times copies the link above the one I am interested in copying.

Many thanks for your help.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

 

Note that control+c doesn't work if you select the link (or anything) with the mouse - if you've used the mouse to select, then press the applications key to bring up the context menu, and choose "copy".

 

In many cases, if you navigate to a link, you can use the applications key to bring up the context menu and choose "copy link location" or "copy link address".

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:01 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

select the link, then copy control c

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

 

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: NVDA command to copy a link

Quentin Christensen
 

Note that control+c doesn't work if you select the link (or anything) with the mouse - if you've used the mouse to select, then press the applications key to bring up the context menu, and choose "copy".

In many cases, if you navigate to a link, you can use the applications key to bring up the context menu and choose "copy link location" or "copy link address".

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:01 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
select the link, then copy control c
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: thunderbird

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thanks bryan
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] thunderbird

By frequent contributor Gene NZ:  Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird
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Windows 10 Notifications?

Clement Chou
 

Seems like my NVDA has stopped reading them out loud when they come up
with the latest update... and the windows+v shortcut no longer works
to bring up the popup. Anyne got any pointers here? I'm a little
mystified. Thanks!


Re: NVDA command to copy a link

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

select the link, then copy control c
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA command to copy a link

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


NVDA command to copy a link

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,

Please is there an NVDA command to copy a link?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal


Re: Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Luke
 

Hi! I know I’m late to the party but just seeing this thread right now. Yes I have the same problem when in the message body using the arrow keys it reads the text very inconsistent. I’m 95% sure it has always done this using the Mail app, but I have only been using the Mail app for about four months. As of right now I’m using NVDA  19.2 but earlier it would have been 19.1 and 19.1.1. I notice it does work with windows narrator though. 

On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:51 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:

 

We may be at cross purposes.

Control Y whilst focussed on the Inbox , just as in Outlook, will allow quick navigation to all your email folders for all the accounts you have.

Simply use the cursor keys to move up and down the folder list and press enter on the folder you want to navigate to.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 12 August 2019 04:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in emailcomposition window

 

How does this affect the various folders for each account?

 

                                                                                                                                If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in emailcomposition window

 

I have  my email accounts linked into a single inbox but If I want to review mail by accounts I simply press control Y to bring up the folder list and then cursor down to the account I want to review.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 10 August 2019 08:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in emailcomposition window

 

I do not know why you are having this problem. I have been using the windows 10 mail app for the last three years. When I open an email I just use the down arrow to read.  What I would prefer is that the messages AKA list of emails were next to all accounts. I have several email accounts and when I am done with one I need to tab five times to change accounts.

 

                                                                                                                                If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

 

hello all! I am so glad that you brought that up about how the Windows mail app is acting. I have had exactly the same problem in the Windows 10 mail app, what I have to do, is use the review cursor reading commands to read the mail message with the review cursor, find where I want to edit, and then press the key command to move the focus to where the review cursor is, and then I can cracked my mistakes. The the review cursor is the only way I can read an email. You are cracked, if I simply use the up and down arrow keys the focus will not say the correct text at all for what is on each line and the message that you are typing in the mail app. Nvda has not worked well in the Windows 10 mail app for a long time when it comes to typing, reading, and doing just about anything with messages. I have to use many round about ways to even use the Windows 10 mail app oh, like I said, I have to read messages with the review cursor. David Moore

 

 

 

 


Re: thunderbird

 

By frequent contributor Gene NZ:  Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird
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In-Process 13th September 2019

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

In this week's In-Process, info on NVDACon, and details of some of the exciting fixes and features coming in NVDA 2019.3, including several highly anticipated inclusions.

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-13th-september/

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


thunderbird

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


i need a tutorial to use thunderbird with NVDA
thanks


Re: Bluetooth problem

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message. as a result I have concluded that theBluetooth chip in my computer is probably incompatible with a recent
Microsoft update. I have an Acer notebook computer with Windows 10 Pro. It was doing fine until a few weeks ago. We will try to find the correct driver and
install it.

John

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:41:11AM -0700, Tony Malykh wrote:
My add-on won't help here unfortunately - since it only works with audio
devices.

I have experienced similar connectivity problems a while ago with my
bluetooth headphones and it was resolved after installing new bluetooth
drivers. Judging by the symptoms you're describing your problem indeed
sounds like a driver issue. Disabling power saving options for bluetooth
seems to be a reasonable thing to try, but if it doesn't help - update your
drivers. You'd have to figure out the name of your bluetooth chip and find
most recent drivers for it - this is what helped in my case.

--Tony


On 9/11/2019 8:39 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi John,

I wonder if Tony Malykh's bluetooth audio addon might help. It is
intended to stop the computer's blue tooth from going into standby for
audio purposes, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for your Braille
device's bluetooth connection too.

This is the web link:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/BluetoothAudio.en.html

And this, copied from the addon page, explains how it works:
"Most bluetooth devices enter standby mode after a few seconds of
inactivity. That means that when NVDA starts speaking again, the first
split second of sound will be lost. Bluetooth Audio add-on prevents
bluetooth devices from entering standby mode by constantly playing a
silent sound, that is inaudible to a human ear."

Hope it helps :)

Giles

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website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, but, please, tell me where...

As I said, please, give me a step to step to get there...

Rui Fontes


Às 23:06 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu:

There is a main box with all the objects and the like, and a lot of buttons the app can not be navigated as such either.
On 13/09/2019 9:56 am, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

Please, let me know what combobox is inaccessible...

Give me a step to step guide for those inaccessible comboboxes...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:02 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu:
you go here

https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

However I wouldn't bother.

The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever.

The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda.

The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github.

Now this is from a user looking at this briefly.

The addon works.

But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me.

I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does.

There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list.

If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software.

There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters.

Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really.

In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning.

If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces.

Hopefully you won't need to do that that often.

The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for.

Anything else and well who knows.

The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it.

The web interface is accessible enough for most users.

If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this.

The brother printer is like that.



On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote:
Hello Rui.  I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp.


Please. How do I install this addon?


Thanks.


Bob


On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints...

The code is available in:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher

Direct download:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Tiflotecnia, Lda.







Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app

 

There is a main box with all the objects and the like, and a lot of buttons the app can not be navigated as such either.

On 13/09/2019 9:56 am, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

Please, let me know what combobox is inaccessible...

Give me a step to step guide for those inaccessible comboboxes...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:02 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu:
you go here

https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

However I wouldn't bother.

The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever.

The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda.

The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github.

Now this is from a user looking at this briefly.

The addon works.

But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me.

I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does.

There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list.

If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software.

There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters.

Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really.

In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning.

If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces.

Hopefully you won't need to do that that often.

The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for.

Anything else and well who knows.

The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it.

The web interface is accessible enough for most users.

If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this.

The brother printer is like that.



On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote:
Hello Rui.  I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp.


Please. How do I install this addon?


Thanks.


Bob


On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints...

The code is available in:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher

Direct download:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Tiflotecnia, Lda.






Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Please, let me know what combobox is inaccessible...

Give me a step to step guide for those inaccessible comboboxes...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:02 de 12/09/2019, Shaun Everiss escreveu:

you go here
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon However I wouldn't bother.
The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever.
The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda.
The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github.
Now this is from a user looking at this briefly.
The addon works.
But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me.
I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does.
There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list.
If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software.
There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters.
Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really.
In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning.
If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces.
Hopefully you won't need to do that that often.
The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for.
Anything else and well who knows.
The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it.
The web interface is accessible enough for most users.
If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this.
The brother printer is like that.
On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote:
Hello Rui.  I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp.


Please. How do I install this addon?


Thanks.


Bob


On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints...

The code is available in:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher

Direct download:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




Re: NVDA pronouncing "no" as "number" with some widgets but only with Microsoft synthesizers

Luke Davis
 

slugolicious and others interested

Solved as follows...

In my testing with notepad, with MS voices, I was able to get the "no" as "number" behavior, only when there really was a number after it.
"no. 1"
"no 1"
"no 1"
All spoke as "number 1", while "no", with or without period, in any other usages, spoke as "no".
Presumptuous, but implemented intelligently.

So then I took slugolicious's actual original test case, and ran that in Firefox.

I was able to replicate the dropdown behavior, where "no" is stated as "number". Looking at the NVDA debug log, it is clear why this is happening: in certain contexts, the number of options is announced as "2 of 2" or similar. What is being sent to the synth is "no 2 of 2", which in any other circumstance should be spoken as "number 2" a vast majority of the time.

Further, since there seems to always be two spaces placed between the word and its option position whether there are 2, 99, or 110 options (I tested), we can fix this with a rather narrow regular expression.

Using a speech dictionary specifically for Microsoft David, I did a case-insensitive regular expression as follows:

Pattern: \Ano(?= \d)
Replacement: know

Note the double space inside the parenthesized portion of the expression.

All "no" as "number" cases still work, except the very particular case of the word "no", followed by two spaces, followed by a digit, which is now pronounced as "no" not "number".
(Actually it's pronounced as "know", which in English is the same thing.)

Hth

Luke