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Re: In-Process 13th September 2019

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes that's right, the screen is black although the mouse pointer is still visible.  The screen isn't actually off, as only Windows itself would be able to do that, but as a privacy measure, it certainly works.

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 6:49 AM Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,   thanks for the screen curtain just set it up and it is really
fantastic I don't have any working eyes to tell me what it looks like.
but I would say the screen will be black? but this really a fantastic
addition to Nvda,   thanks to Joseph and others who helped develop this
addon and now soon to be integrated straight into nvda.

On 13/09/2019 01:49, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> In this week's In-Process, info on NVDACon, and details of some of the
> exciting fixes and features coming in NVDA 2019.3, including several
> highly anticipated inclusions.
>
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-13th-september/
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abby fine reader

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


guys
is there an add on for abby, because i noticed NVDA is not reading properly in the menu
 


Re: Microsoft word: determine bullet shapes with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

You can select all the lists in a document to set them all to the same style.  Note that this will select BOTH numbered and bulleted lists:

1. Press control+alt+shift+s to open the Styles toolbar (note that it opens, but doesn't take focus.
2. In your document, move to any list item.
3. Press F6 to move to the Styles toolbar you opened (having moved to a list item means the focus jumps right to "list paragraph" in the styles toolbar).
4. Press the applications key to open the context menu.
5. Down arrow to "Select all 15 instances" (the number will vary)
6. Press SHIFT+F6 to move back to the document
7. Press alt+h, u to open the unnumbered list item.  Select the style of bullets you would like.


On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 3:40 AM Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...> wrote:

Thanks for the help, it works perfectly.  I'm not quite sure the bullet type I'm now using was the one in the old document I had written last year, because NVDA only says "bullet", and my Braille display shows something quite standard, but it doesn't really matter anyway.  The next document will be up-to-date!


Vincent

On 9/13/2019 1:07 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Vincent,

In Word, where you want to start a bulleted list, if you press ALT+H for the home ribbon, then "u" for bulleted list (think of it either as the second letter in the word bullet, since B was taken for border - OR u for unordered list).  This opens a list where you can select the type of bullets to use from Recently used, Bullet library or document bullets.  Or you can go down to "define new bullets" and choose your own character, or image.

While on a list, if you press alt+h, u, it will open the same list, but with the focus on the bullet currently being used.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 8:16 PM Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,


I'm working with Microsoft Word a lot these days.  I like to have
consistent documents and try to create visually-attracting ones when I
can, with headers and footers and nice tables and so on. I'm following
the guide to Microsoft Word with NVDA, which is very useful.  However,
one thing I can't figure out how to do: when in a bulleted list, how do
you know what bullet is used?  I like to use the same kind for all my
ordered list.  As far as I know, when trying to avoid standard bullets
(I personally like the "filled square" one), Word relies on numbers
(like bullet 318) when you try to insert.  But does NVDA reports the
kind of bullet used? And if so, how?  This information doesn't seem to
be present in NVDA+F.  On the other hand, I think one cannot focus the
bullets to "see" what they are, though I might be mistaken about that.


As someone who doesn't and can't use the speech output, relying on just
auditory indications isn't going to work, though I can still use the
speech viewer if needed.


Thanks for your help,


Vincent






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Re: looking for an raml editor that works with nvda

Luke Davis
 

It's just an extension of YAML. And as such text. Any text editor should be able to do it basically, and if you want something better, I'm sure you could use Notepad Plus Plus. Writing any kind of YAML should be easy enough for any Python developer's coding environment--indenting is king, after all.

Luke

On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Alexandre Alves Toco wrote:

Hi friends!
Does any one know about na raml editor that Works with nvda?
I tried aton. But it seems very inaccessible.
 
 
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Absolutely Essential Information to Share When You Have an Issue and How to Get It

 

Lately, on several groups including this one, there are folks requesting help where very little information other than "the problem behavior" is provided.  It is really impossible for any assistant to even begin formulating a response unless they know the actual computing environment in which said problem behavior is occurring.  It makes no sense to guess about any of these essentials, and they're very easy to get and provide when you have an issue you want help with.
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Absolutely Essential Information to Share When You Have a Problem and How to Get It

1.        Operating System Details: 

a.       Run the winver command, you can do this using the Windows Key, typing it then hitting enter

b.      Using Windows Key+R, typing winver in the edit box then hitting enter

c.       Opening Command Prompt and entering winver

You will then get a pop-up window giving you the Windows Version, Build, and Edition.

 

2.       Screen Reader Version

a.       NVDA:          NVDA+N,H,A

b.      JAWS:            JAWS+J,ALT+H,A

 

3.       Software Version:  This will vary to some extent, but for the vast majority using the Help menu, About option will give you this information.  Very often ALT+H,A.

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Re: looking for an raml editor that works with nvda

 

Notepad++ supports YAML, of which RAML is an offshoot.  You might be able to get away with that.  There could very well be a RAML plug-in, too.

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looking for an raml editor that works with nvda

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi friends!

Does any one know about na raml editor that Works with nvda?

I tried aton. But it seems very inaccessible.

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: Notepad++/NVDA compatability possible bug?

Aine Kelly Costello
 

Thanks all – yes not having updated NVDA was the issue! Mystifying as I double checked my settings and I’m supposed to automatically get notified about updates, which didn’t happen. Ah well.

 

Really appreciate everyone’s help 😊

 

Áine

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Sunday, 15 September 2019 8:03 am
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Notepad++/NVDA compatability possible bug?

 

H. The following bug was fixed in NVDA 2019.2

• When reading the first character of a document in Notepad++ 7.7 X64, NVDA no longer freezes for up to ten seconds. (#9609)

So, if you have NVDA 2019.1.1 or earlier, try updating to see if it fixes this problem.


Re: NVDA, Python 3 and NVDA API

Luke Davis
 

It is, and you probably do.
https://groups.io/g/nvda-devel

Luke

On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

Please, if that's "too technical" and I need to post it to the NVDA development list, could you send me a link or address?  I can't find the development list anywhere on the web, at least not an active link or information.


NVDA, Python 3 and NVDA API

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Hello everyone,


I'm unsure of where to post this: it's a bit technical but perhaps "not enough".  Apologies if you think otherwise.


With Python 3 support and NVDA 2019.3, will we have problems using the DLL files to send information to NVDA?  I mean the nvdaControllerClient.dll file.  Will it need to be rebuilt for the new version?


Please, if that's "too technical" and I need to post it to the NVDA development list, could you send me a link or address?  I can't find the development list anywhere on the web, at least not an active link or information.


Thanks,


Vincent


Re: Reading characters phonetically?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Using the desktop lay out  you can do the following on the numeric key pad make sure it is turned off first.


If you want nvda to say the line  as you mentioned hit the number 8 3 times.


If it is just the word hit it 3 times make sure you are focused on it as been read out.


If it is just a letter hit the number 2 2 times if i remember right.


Are you aware also if you want the previous word use the number 4 on the numeric key pad then hit the number 5 3 times and if the next word press the number 6 then hit the number 5 3 times.

 It is the same for 1 previous character and 3 next and 7 previous line and 9 next depending what you want to do.


so 8 is current line 5 is word you are on and 2 is character you are on.


Hopefully it makes sense.


Gene nz


On 15/09/2019 1:34 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

I'm moving across  some letters, is there a keystroke to have it read phonetically?




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Re: Reading characters phonetically?

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

That is fine. But I would still prefer to be  able to lock it in phonetics and unlock it when I am done. For example, while reading a long alpha numeric serial number.

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

 

I made an error.  Its numpad 8 three times and numpad 5 three times.  In my original message, I said numpad 8 twice, which is incorrect.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

 

It isn't what you want, but I want to make sure you know that numpad 5 three times will read the current word phonetically, and numpad 8 twice will read the current line phonetically.  If this has changed at all in more recent versions of NVDA, I hope others will discuss that.

While I am confident you already know these commands, I'm presenting them just in case and it may give other users useful information.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

 

What I would like to see is an ability to hit numpad 2 and have it stay on phonetics until I no longer need it.

 

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From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

 

hi.

just press numpad two twice when you are in your desired character.

 

On 9/15/19, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

> Hi folks.

> I'm moving across  some letters, is there a keystroke to have it read

> phonetically?

>

 

 

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Re: Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

Gene
 

I see you are talking about Notepad++.  I have punctuation off so I thought you were talking about Notepad.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
Or you can use alt then h, which opens help, just as the question mark does, then a.  I prefer h.
If you can get that to work in Notepad++ then my hat's off to you.   I cannot, and I have never seen anyone who could.

The advice is absolutely context specific to Notepad++, which has no Help menu designated as such, and uses the question mark in the menu bar explicitly.

In programs that have Help menus you are correct that ALT+H,A generally gets you the About dialog.
 
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Re: Notepad++/NVDA compatability possible bug?

Andre Fisher
 

H. The following bug was fixed in NVDA 2019.2

• When reading the first character of a document in Notepad++ 7.7 X64, NVDA no longer freezes for up to ten seconds. (#9609)

So, if you have NVDA 2019.1.1 or earlier, try updating to see if it fixes this problem.


Re: Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

Andre Fisher
 

Which version of NVDA do you have?


Re: Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
Or you can use alt then h, which opens help, just as the question mark does, then a.  I prefer h.
If you can get that to work in Notepad++ then my hat's off to you.   I cannot, and I have never seen anyone who could.

The advice is absolutely context specific to Notepad++, which has no Help menu designated as such, and uses the question mark in the menu bar explicitly.

In programs that have Help menus you are correct that ALT+H,A generally gets you the About dialog.
 
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Re: Reading characters phonetically?

Gene
 

I made an error.  Its numpad 8 three times and numpad 5 three times.  In my original message, I said numpad 8 twice, which is incorrect.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

It isn't what you want, but I want to make sure you know that numpad 5 three times will read the current word phonetically, and numpad 8 twice will read the current line phonetically.  If this has changed at all in more recent versions of NVDA, I hope others will discuss that.
While I am confident you already know these commands, I'm presenting them just in case and it may give other users useful information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

What I would like to see is an ability to hit numpad 2 and have it stay on phonetics until I no longer need it.

 

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From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

 

hi.

just press numpad two twice when you are in your desired character.

 

On 9/15/19, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

> Hi folks.

> I'm moving across  some letters, is there a keystroke to have it read

> phonetically?

>

 

 

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By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

Gene
 

Or you can use alt then h, which opens help, just as the question mark does, then a.  I prefer h.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:33 PM, zahra wrote:
but AltA does not work.
That's because it's ALT, followed by question mark, followed by A.

With regard to bringing up the About dialog, F1 is specific to Notepad++, and perhaps some other programs, but it is not a universal "bring up the About dialog" key.

I had mistakenly confused the toggle NVDA+1 for Input Help Mode with F1, and that's why I thought one would have to pass F1 through.  Since that's not the case, it will bring up the About dialog when Notepad++ is active since neither Windows nor NVDA react to F1 and it then is given to Notepad++ for processing.
 
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Re: Reading characters phonetically?

Gene
 

It isn't what you want, but I want to make sure you know that numpad 5 three times will read the current word phonetically, and numpad 8 twice will read the current line phonetically.  If this has changed at all in more recent versions of NVDA, I hope others will discuss that.
While I am confident you already know these commands, I'm presenting them just in case and it may give other users useful information.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

What I would like to see is an ability to hit numpad 2 and have it stay on phonetics until I no longer need it.

 

 ******

Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.

the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically?

 

hi.

just press numpad two twice when you are in your desired character.

 

On 9/15/19, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

> Hi folks.

> I'm moving across  some letters, is there a keystroke to have it read

> phonetically?

>

 

 

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By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Notepad++ add on - getting it to work?

 

because i disabled reading punctuations in nvda, i did not know that i
should press question mark after alt.
sorry for my mistake!
i tried it with adding question mark and it worked for me.

On 9/15/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:33 PM, zahra wrote:


but AltA does not work.
That's because it's ALT, followed by question mark, followed by A.

With regard to bringing up the About dialog, F1 is specific to Notepad++,
and perhaps some other programs, but it is not a universal "bring up the
About dialog" key.

I had mistakenly confused the toggle NVDA+1 for Input Help Mode with F1, and
that's why I thought one would have to pass F1 through. Since that's not
the case, it will bring up the About dialog when Notepad++ is active since
neither Windows nor NVDA react to F1 and it then is given to Notepad++ for
processing.

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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

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