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Re: the new nod32 9.0?

Gene
 

it takes a lot of continued work and resources to create such a program and have it be properly effective.  Why should blind programmers recreate the wheel.  Many programs, while they may not be fully accessible, are useable.  it's unfortunate that as programs come out with new versions, those that are accessible often become less or inaccessible but while that is occurring, some are becoming more accessible, at times because the developers are working on accessibility for the program.  I would much much rather have a commercial program that I can see reviewed, which is made by a corporation who does it for their business, then have some amateur programmers make their own program. 
 
And to add weight to my argument, one such program, I believe its open source, is clam.  It is poorly reviewed and I wouldn't use it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message  -----

From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new nod32 9.0?

Hello:
    I guess I know the answer to my question.  But! I will ask it anyway.
    There are a number of blind programmers/developers out and about.  Why have they not been able to create a blind friendly anti-virus program?  If it is a money issue?  Why not seek funds from groups who will donate to worthy projects?  Why don't blind developer/programmers offer their expertise and knowledge to the anti-virus developers?
    I know that they are not good.  But, I've seen some open source anti-virus projects.  So, it is possible to try and work on an anti-virus project without requiring too much funding!
    I do hope that at some point these issues will be dealt with so that this topic would not come up so often on this list!

On 7/20/2016 12:38 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Exactly. These manufacturers may have accessibility in mind, but they never make it a priority due to the small number of customers that are visually impaired. In my view, no matter how small the number of visually impaired users are, their right to use the software cannot be ignored.

-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: Using Windows PowerShell

Александр Северин <sewerin000@...>
 

Hello.
Try to run the 32 bit version. (Windows PowerShell (x86)).

17.07.2016 12:43, Webmaster Deweer пишет:

Hello everybody,

I need to use the Windows PowerShell but it seems like NVDA doesn’t support the fully WinPS window.

When I type letters, NVDA doesn’t say them, where it says typed letters in all other applications!

Hopeful you understand what I mean, my grammar wasn’t correctly used, I know!

But can anybody help me with this issue / problem?

Thanks in advance!

Regards, Jordy D



NVDA giving script errors with Internet Explorer

kwe33647@...
 

Hi my name is Kurt,

I have the latest version of NVDA 2016.2.1 and experience a script error using the caps lock key.When I hit capslock on page Error "An error has occurred in the script on the page.

Error: Invalid calling object." 
Only happens with NVDA on in IE.
Issue doesn't happen in google chrome or firefox with NVDA on.
I am using Window 10 with the latest version of Internet Explorer.


Continuing Issues With Weather Add On

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


Just today, the weather add on for NVDA was updated again. In the what's new documentation, it says that 2 bugs were fixed. Obviously the one with respect to the incorrect barometric readings was not one of the bug fixes. I have mentioned in the past that these readings are consistently between .6 and .7 inches too low no matter what the weather is. In addition, I noticed one other thing. The add on always reports the barometric reading as steady. This is verifiable as not true because local weather reports as well as the Yahoo weather page say differently.


I wish this could be fixed because other than that issue with the barometric readings, the add on works great.



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: the new nod32 9.0?

Carlos
 

Hello:
    I guess I know the answer to my question.  But! I will ask it anyway.
    There are a number of blind programmers/developers out and about.  Why have they not been able to create a blind friendly anti-virus program?  If it is a money issue?  Why not seek funds from groups who will donate to worthy projects?  Why don't blind developer/programmers offer their expertise and knowledge to the anti-virus developers?
    I know that they are not good.  But, I've seen some open source anti-virus projects.  So, it is possible to try and work on an anti-virus project without requiring too much funding!
    I do hope that at some point these issues will be dealt with so that this topic would not come up so often on this list!

On 7/20/2016 12:38 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Exactly. These manufacturers may have accessibility in mind, but they never make it a priority due to the small number of customers that are visually impaired. In my view, no matter how small the number of visually impaired users are, their right to use the software cannot be ignored.

-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: 'private button' on reply forms on list

 

Oh, I see. I'm using the web interface, that's why I noticed that button.


Re: 'private button' on reply forms on list

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I see nothing but then I'm reading in text. However it is and always has been possible to reply to sender instead of to the list, so I'd assume this is what it means.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:41 AM
Subject: [nvda] 'private button' on reply forms on list


Hi all,

Recently, I noticed the 'private button' when replying to posts here on this list. What does this button do exactly?


Re: the new nod32 9.0?

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Its all down to training of programmers and the lack of forced accessibility in programming environments. It should be impossible to write code that is inaccessible for screen displays by now.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new nod32 9.0?


And you guys critisise me for using msse.
But yeah I agree with the poster, security cool but the most secure is usually not the most accessible and that says something about hte industry.
Its bad, it sucks, its accessible, its good, its secure its not how do they expect the disabled to use their software.
Answer so many buy they don't give a stuff anymore so we have to use substandard software.



On 20/07/2016 12:32 a.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
I agree. Accessibility, even for an antivirus software which is critically needed for Windows users, is not being given a priority. Personally I don't use Nod32, so can't comment on my own experience of using it with NVDA.

As a solution, as mentioned in this thread use either version 8 of Nod32 or use another av (though finding one that's accessible, and at the same time rated highly on lab tests and received positive reviews is going to be a pain).


Re: Vocalizer Update

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

To do so usually invokes Murphy's law as I'm sure we all know!

I'm still quite happy with the built in synth and the micoosoft one here.
Brian

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From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer Update


Sounds good. Maybe we'll get it in the next year or two. :-D

I guess this is why most entities don't give out release dates... they are
usually incorrect.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM Supanut Leepaisomboon <
supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,

No, there hasn't been any update. I emailed them to ask when it will be
released, and, as of the time they replied, which is pretty much 3 weeks
ago, they said that it will be out within 2 weeks and...here we are, 3
weeks now and I checked the downloads page and it's still the same version,
3.0.12.

Note I'm referring to the Tifflotecnia version of Vocalizer.


Re: the new nod32 9.0?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Incidentally does anyone know of an anti virus which is portable and at least reasonably secure?
The issue is that I have a pc which is well out of range of any fast internet connection, and connection via the mobile network costs a lot, so it would be really nice to be able to update a portable one say on the stick and take it to that site and run it over the machine.
Many people plug in sticks who may or may not have viruses and I really need to keep it checked.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new nod32 9.0?


I agree. Accessibility, even for an antivirus software which is critically needed for Windows users, is not being given a priority. Personally I don't use Nod32, so can't comment on my own experience of using it with NVDA.

As a solution, as mentioned in this thread use either version 8 of Nod32 or use another av (though finding one that's accessible, and at the same time rated highly on lab tests and received positive reviews is going to be a pain).


Re: The audio themes addon doesn't work under windows xp

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

This might be due to the fact that the windows sound handling is completely different on XP.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The audio themes addon doesn't work under windows xp


It doesn't seem to give me errors in my windows XP virtual machine here,
but, hitting enter on the theme menu item under NVDA preferences menu
doesn't seem to do anything either.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-07-19 11:26 AM, Nikos Demetriou via Groups.io wrote:
Hi all.
I am wondering if anyone else had the chance to try the audio themes
addon under windows xp.
For me the addon is unable to load but it loads fine under windows 7.
When I load nvda, I hear the nvda error sound and I can't find the
audio themes item under nvda menu.
Here is a part from my log which speaks about this addon.
If you need more of this log let me know.

ERROR - globalPluginHandler.listPlugins (09:30:47):
Error importing global plugin audioThemes
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "globalPluginHandler.pyc", line 22, in listPlugins
File "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
Data\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py",
line 21, in <module>
File "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
Data\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\dialogs\__init__.py",
line 15, in <module>
File "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
Data\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\backend\__init__.py",
line 11, in <module>
File "ctypes\__init__.pyc", line 443, in LoadLibrary
File "ctypes\__init__.pyc", line 365, in __init__
WindowsError: [Error 126] The specified module could not be found
INFO - core.main (09:30:48):
NVDA initialized
Nikos


Re: accessible tv tuner

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

And we do not actually mean the ones that only get internet channels. I understand Googles one is alpha testing a screenreader for it at the moment.
What I'd like is a DVB2 tuner where the software that drives it on a pc is accessible with nvda. Most of the ones I've heard about are very graphic in nature, which is not much good.
Brian

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From: "Richard Kuzma via Groups.io" <rmkuzma=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible tv tuner


Good morning,

Has anyone had any luck with any usb tv tuner for your pc.

Thanks




Re: A Mouse Query

Andrea Sherry
 

Thanks heaps.

Cheers

Andrea

On 20/07/2016 5:47 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Check out the golden cursor add-on.


http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html


Jacob Kruger
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On 2016-07-20 4:27 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Are all mouse functions available from keyboard in latest version?

I have a situation in SoundForge 10 where various things need checking/unchecking in options menu. So far I have had to seek sighted assistance to do this.

Andreea



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Re: A Mouse Query

Jacob Kruger
 

Check out the golden cursor add-on.


http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-07-20 4:27 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Are all mouse functions available from keyboard in latest version?

I have a situation in SoundForge 10 where various things need checking/unchecking in options menu. So far I have had to seek sighted assistance to do this.

Andreea


'private button' on reply forms on list

 

Hi all,

Recently, I noticed the 'private button' when replying to posts here on this list. What does this button do exactly?


Re: the new nod32 9.0?

 

Exactly. These manufacturers may have accessibility in mind, but they never make it a priority due to the small number of customers that are visually impaired. In my view, no matter how small the number of visually impaired users are, their right to use the software cannot be ignored.


Re: the new nod32 9.0?

 

You know, I am sure they know about it I am sure most of the major ones do.
They are happy to let jaws in, surely all they need to do is let other libraries for readers in or use standard controls but its not just antivirus, while we are a lot better, a lot of makers don't code for access or even know till they are told.
Thing is with a lot of these, they are so protected by forms, capchas and the like some don't even have direct mail addresses that contacting is hard enough and the message may never reach its target anyway.
Its why I have just given up on it now.
I'd like it to change but hmmm.
Its a pitty you couldn't get an antivirus based on 1 or several good engines with an accessible low power low false positive rate interface and let it wrip similar to having an accessible windows shell of whatever you want and just load a kernal under it its just not going to happen.

On 20/07/2016 12:10 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
I wonder, for these antivirus software companies...how much money is invested in accessibility.


Re: Reading lists in word

 

Hi Amy,

Unfortunately, not at this time (browse mode will not help here either).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jensen, Amy
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading lists in word

 

Hi, word docs with NVDA for me read lists (unordered and numbered) as simply “bullet xxxx”, “bullet xxxx”, or “1 xxxxx”, “2 xxxxx”. Are there any preferences to enable these lists to be read as “List with 5 items”, for example, rather than simply stating the character before the text. These are not pseudo lists, they have been created with Microsoft word’s styles. I also have report lists enabled in the documents settings. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.


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A Mouse Query

Andrea Sherry
 

Are all mouse functions available from keyboard in latest version?

I have a situation in SoundForge 10 where various things need checking/unchecking in options menu. So far I have had to seek sighted assistance to do this.

Andreea


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Reading lists in word

Jensen, Amy <amy.jensen4@...>
 

Hi, word docs with NVDA for me read lists (unordered and numbered) as simply “bullet xxxx”, “bullet xxxx”, or “1 xxxxx”, “2 xxxxx”. Are there any preferences to enable these lists to be read as “List with 5 items”, for example, rather than simply stating the character before the text. These are not pseudo lists, they have been created with Microsoft word’s styles. I also have report lists enabled in the documents settings. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.


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