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Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

Stephen
 

What do I do if i want to read a kindle book on my PC and it isn't screen reader supported? is there an option available?

At 06:19 AM 9/24/2019, you wrote:

Hi


You probably already know what to look for but it needs to be screen reader enabled.


Below is off my web site for the kindle tutorial and what to look for it is off my nvda tutorials for other programs page.



When you locate a book, press the Enter key on it to get more information. The next page should tell you what the name of the author is, a brief description of the book, the price and a brief description of the following types of information ...for example Read more. If you want NVDA to read your book, you will need to look for Screen reader: Supported.
An example of the type of information that you might find is given below:

Product details
Format: Kindle Edition
File Size: 1634 KB
Print Length: 226 pages
Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
Publisher: Bella Books (15 March 2019)
Sold by: Amazon Australia Services, Inc.
Language: English
ASIN: B07PG5555P
Text-to-Speech: Enabled
X-Ray: Not Enabled
Word Wise: Enabled
Screen Reader: Supported
Enhanced Typesetting: Enabled





Gene nz


On 24/09/2019 6:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, both advanced type setting and text to speech are enabled for the book, so there goes that theory.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 10:25 AM, John Isige wrote:
I'm guessing somebody already told you. In order for Kindle PC to read
books with a screen reader, it either needs to say it's screen reader
accessible/enabled or whatever they call it, or that it has enhanced
type/typesetting in the book's info. I don't know *why* Amazon set
things up that way, I'm assuming fights with publishers, but I think
that's not the case for some reason with their Kindle apps for mobile
devices. So I suspect what's happening is that this mystery book doesn't
have the required feature enabled, so NVDA can't see it. Of course, I
could be entirely wrong, but that's my guess.


On 9/23/2019 9:40, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Hope,


If I could choose the sysnthesizer and the speed, I guess I wouldn't
mind letting the Kindle app do the reading. But the synthesizer they
use and the speed with which it reads are both losers in my book. If
the tts within the Kindle application can see the text, and voice over
can see the text, why can't NVDA see it without having to do a page by
page ocr?


Mary

On 9/23/2019 7:07 AM, Hope Williamson wrote:
When I'm reading a Kindle book. I exit NVDA, and let the Kindle do
the reading. Sometimes I start narrator, but it's really unnecessary.

On 9/23/2019 7:01 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
NVDA plus r does yield text. Turning off the synthesizer within the
Kindle app with control t doesn't do anything for nvda, i.e. it
still doesn't read anything. there is obviously text here, or else
the book wouldn't read on my phone. But for whatever reason, NVDA
isn't seeing the text unless you do an ocr. That's not an efficient
way to read a book. I'd sure like to know what's up with Kindle for
pc here.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 3:22 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you use the NVDA key and are to scan the image.
Does it find anything?

Sile
On Sep 22, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...>
wrote:

Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read
Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice
automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is
apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app
starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell
Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus
work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the
selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by
NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book
reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a
screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those,
since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm
missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and
speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary














--
 
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

David Csercsics
 

Have you tried using the 64-bit Thunderbird? Also unsubscribing from gmail's all mail helped. Telling Thunderbird to expunge old messages also helps. I have no problems here since I did these things.

Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

Mary Otten
 

Well, that's interesting, Diane. Don't see why you still couldn't just turn that speech off and use your own. The speech is pretty monotone and seriouslyu slow. No sighted guy I know would deal with that.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 2:31 PM, Diane wrote:
My name is Diane from Ohio.  I had trouble last year with this same thing. I called Amazon and the guy told that if the bhook has speech with, that it won't let the screen readers read.  I think you have to read it with a braille display or on a phone or other i'devices.  I think more and more books have speech with them now so people can hear them.

Hope this helps.  That's what the tech guy told me for sure.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <maryotten@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and accessible kindle book


Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those, since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary




Re: my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don’t have a lits of commands but it works like any other program. The only thing you can’t do with the mail app is to organize messages into different folders like you can in other programs. Other than that, it’s not that much different. It’s pretty easy to set up. See the other Brian’s message on setting up the mail app.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone afterall

 

    I do have windows 10 but I have not tried the mail app.  Do you have a list of the key comands for the mail app?

Brian Sackrider

On 9/23/2019 6:03 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Brian,

 

Have you thought of trying the mail app or do you have windows 10? The mail app works great with NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

 

I only have the problem with thunder bird nvda just stops talking and it

takes several times to get nvda restarted.  I have the add on for

modzilla inhancements.  This problem just keeps getting worse.  We need

annother email program or a fix for this problem.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

 

 

 

Re: my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

brian
 

    I did try narator it does not have the problem but but arrow keys and comand keys don't work.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/23/2019 6:26 PM, brian via Groups.Io wrote:

    I do have windows 10 but I have not tried the mail app.  Do you have a list of the key comands for the mail app?

Brian Sackrider

On 9/23/2019 6:03 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Brian,

 

Have you thought of trying the mail app or do you have windows 10? The mail app works great with NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

 

I only have the problem with thunder bird nvda just stops talking and it

takes several times to get nvda restarted.  I have the add on for

modzilla inhancements.  This problem just keeps getting worse.  We need

annother email program or a fix for this problem.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

 

 

Re: my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

brian
 

    I do have windows 10 but I have not tried the mail app.  Do you have a list of the key comands for the mail app?

Brian Sackrider

On 9/23/2019 6:03 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Brian,

 

Have you thought of trying the mail app or do you have windows 10? The mail app works great with NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

 

I only have the problem with thunder bird nvda just stops talking and it

takes several times to get nvda restarted.  I have the add on for

modzilla inhancements.  This problem just keeps getting worse.  We need

annother email program or a fix for this problem.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

 

 

Re: my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,

 

Have you thought of trying the mail app or do you have windows 10? The mail app works great with NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

 

I only have the problem with thunder bird nvda just stops talking and it

takes several times to get nvda restarted.  I have the add on for

modzilla inhancements.  This problem just keeps getting worse.  We need

annother email program or a fix for this problem.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

 

 

my problem with nvda and thunder bird is not gone after all

brian
 

I only have the problem with thunder bird nvda just stops talking and it takes several times to get nvda restarted.  I have the add on for modzilla inhancements.  This problem just keeps getting worse.  We need annother email program or a fix for this problem.

Brian Sackrider

Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

Diane
 

My name is Diane from Ohio. I had trouble last year with this same thing. I called Amazon and the guy told that if the bhook has speech with, that it won't let the screen readers read. I think you have to read it with a braille display or on a phone or other i'devices. I think more and more books have speech with them now so people can hear them.

Hope this helps. That's what the tech guy told me for sure.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Otten" <maryotten@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and accessible kindle book


Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those, since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary


possible fix for the problem with nvda and thunderbird

brian
 

Today my thunder bird was worse than ever.  Every time I read a message and I went to the next message my nvda would stop talking.  I had to restart nvda and then thunder bird said it's not responding.  I maxumised thunder bird and that seems to have solved the problem for now.  When I had the problem it was on normal window.

Brian Saackrider

Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

Luke Davis
 

It may be a long shot Mary, but have you tried calling Amazon accessibility? 888-283-1678

Luke

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, Mary Otten wrote:

NVDA plus r does yield text. Turning off the synthesizer within the Kindle app with control t doesn't do anything for nvda, i.e. it still doesn't read anything. there is obviously text here, or else the book wouldn't read on my phone. But for whatever reason, NVDA isn't seeing the text unless you do an ocr. That's not an efficient way to read a book. I'd sure like to know what's up with Kindle for pc here.

Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


You probably already know what to look for but it needs to be screen reader enabled.


Below is off my web site for the kindle tutorial and what to look for it is off my nvda tutorials for other programs page.



When you locate a book, press the Enter key on it to get more information. The next page should tell you what the name of the author is, a brief description of the book, the price and a brief description of the following types of information ...for example Read more. If you want NVDA to read your book, you will need to look for Screen reader: Supported.
An example of the type of information that you might find is given below:

Product details
Format: Kindle Edition
File Size: 1634 KB
Print Length: 226 pages
Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
Publisher: Bella Books (15 March 2019)
Sold by: Amazon Australia Services, Inc.
Language: English
ASIN: B07PG5555P
Text-to-Speech: Enabled
X-Ray: Not Enabled
Word Wise: Enabled
Screen Reader: Supported
Enhanced Typesetting: Enabled





Gene nz


On 24/09/2019 6:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, both advanced type setting and text to speech are enabled for the book, so there goes that theory.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 10:25 AM, John Isige wrote:
I'm guessing somebody already told you. In order for Kindle PC to read
books with a screen reader, it either needs to say it's screen reader
accessible/enabled or whatever they call it, or that it has enhanced
type/typesetting in the book's info. I don't know *why* Amazon set
things up that way, I'm assuming fights with publishers, but I think
that's not the case for some reason with their Kindle apps for mobile
devices. So I suspect what's happening is that this mystery book doesn't
have the required feature enabled, so NVDA can't see it. Of course, I
could be entirely wrong, but that's my guess.


On 9/23/2019 9:40, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Hope,


If I could choose the sysnthesizer and the speed, I guess I wouldn't
mind letting the Kindle app do the reading. But the synthesizer they
use and the speed with which it reads are both losers in my book. If
the tts within the Kindle application can see the text, and voice over
can see the text, why can't NVDA see it without having to do a page by
page ocr?


Mary

On 9/23/2019 7:07 AM, Hope Williamson wrote:
When I'm reading a Kindle book. I exit NVDA, and let the Kindle do
the reading. Sometimes I start narrator, but it's really unnecessary.

On 9/23/2019 7:01 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
NVDA plus r does yield text. Turning off the synthesizer within the
Kindle app with control t doesn't do anything for nvda, i.e. it
still doesn't read anything. there is obviously text here, or else
the book wouldn't read on my phone. But for whatever reason, NVDA
isn't seeing the text unless you do an ocr. That's not an efficient
way to read a book. I'd sure like to know what's up with Kindle for
pc here.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 3:22 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you use the NVDA key and are to scan the image.
Does it find anything?

Sile
On Sep 22, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...>
wrote:

Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read
Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice
automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is
apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app
starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell
Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus
work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the
selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by
NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book
reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a
screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those,
since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm
missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and
speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary





















--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thre is but I don't use it. I think the last time I tried as I chose the wrong mp4 container for the thing I wastrying to merge and got a horable noise.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Sep 2019, at 13:07, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

There is a way that you can merge videos with VLC Media Player.

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

You can trim, but I've never actually managed to merge successfully. If your stuff is in mkv or anything other than m4v or mp4 forget opening it in photoe editor.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Sep 2019, at 11:56, Governor staten wrote:

How well does this app work for editing of videos?

 

 


 

On 9/23/2019 8:07 AM, Andy B. wrote:

Hi,

 

Try Windows 10 Photos app. I use it for video editing all the time.

 

 

Andy Borka

Accessibility Engineer

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

I actually was going to suggest reaper, as it only takes about an hour to render about 2 hours of content on a good day or rm. but I'm on a mac.

Whe I use reaper it takes 30 minutes to render 2 hours of content on my windows machine, so I'd say it is yrou processer that is barfing.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 22 Sep 2019, at 13:58, Joshua Tubbs wrote:

Hi all,

I have tried open source video editor Shotcut. Opening videos is
accessible and we can move through them, but I'm not sure how to join
videos and/or move segments.

Replay Media Splitter, a program that I thought would be accessible
due to their other products, is not accessible.

So, does anybody know of an accessible way to both remove segments
from video via selection, and also join videos together? Reaper video
rendering is very, very slow and is a deal breaker for me.

Thanks.

Re: Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

Angelo Sonnesso
 

There is a way that you can merge videos with VLC Media Player.

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

You can trim, but I've never actually managed to merge successfully. If your stuff is in mkv or anything other than m4v or mp4 forget opening it in photoe editor.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Sep 2019, at 11:56, Governor staten wrote:

How well does this app work for editing of videos?

 

 


 

On 9/23/2019 8:07 AM, Andy B. wrote:

Hi,

 

Try Windows 10 Photos app. I use it for video editing all the time.

 

 

Andy Borka

Accessibility Engineer

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

I actually was going to suggest reaper, as it only takes about an hour to render about 2 hours of content on a good day or rm. but I'm on a mac.

Whe I use reaper it takes 30 minutes to render 2 hours of content on my windows machine, so I'd say it is yrou processer that is barfing.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 22 Sep 2019, at 13:58, Joshua Tubbs wrote:

Hi all,

I have tried open source video editor Shotcut. Opening videos is
accessible and we can move through them, but I'm not sure how to join
videos and/or move segments.

Replay Media Splitter, a program that I thought would be accessible
due to their other products, is not accessible.

So, does anybody know of an accessible way to both remove segments
from video via selection, and also join videos together? Reaper video
rendering is very, very slow and is a deal breaker for me.

Thanks.

Re: Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

Sarah k Alawami
 

You can trim, but I've never actually managed to merge successfully. If your stuff is in mkv or anything other than m4v or mp4 forget opening it in photoe editor.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 23 Sep 2019, at 11:56, Governor staten wrote:

How well does this app work for editing of videos?





On 9/23/2019 8:07 AM, Andy B. wrote:

Hi,

 

Try Windows 10 Photos app. I use it for video editing all the time.

 

 

Andy Borka

Accessibility Engineer

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

I actually was going to suggest reaper, as it only takes about an hour to render about 2 hours of content on a good day or rm. but I'm on a mac.

Whe I use reaper it takes 30 minutes to render 2 hours of content on my windows machine, so I'd say it is yrou processer that is barfing.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 22 Sep 2019, at 13:58, Joshua Tubbs wrote:

Hi all,

I have tried open source video editor Shotcut. Opening videos is
accessible and we can move through them, but I'm not sure how to join
videos and/or move segments.

Replay Media Splitter, a program that I thought would be accessible
due to their other products, is not accessible.

So, does anybody know of an accessible way to both remove segments
from video via selection, and also join videos together? Reaper video
rendering is very, very slow and is a deal breaker for me.

Thanks.

Re: Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

How well does this app work for editing of videos?





On 9/23/2019 8:07 AM, Andy B. wrote:

Hi,

 

Try Windows 10 Photos app. I use it for video editing all the time.

 

 

Andy Borka

Accessibility Engineer

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

I actually was going to suggest reaper, as it only takes about an hour to render about 2 hours of content on a good day or rm. but I'm on a mac.

Whe I use reaper it takes 30 minutes to render 2 hours of content on my windows machine, so I'd say it is yrou processer that is barfing.

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On 22 Sep 2019, at 13:58, Joshua Tubbs wrote:

Hi all,

I have tried open source video editor Shotcut. Opening videos is
accessible and we can move through them, but I'm not sure how to join
videos and/or move segments.

Replay Media Splitter, a program that I thought would be accessible
due to their other products, is not accessible.

So, does anybody know of an accessible way to both remove segments
from video via selection, and also join videos together? Reaper video
rendering is very, very slow and is a deal breaker for me.

Thanks.

Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

Mary Otten
 

Well, both advanced type setting and text to speech are enabled for the book, so there goes that theory.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 10:25 AM, John Isige wrote:
I'm guessing somebody already told you. In order for Kindle PC to read
books with a screen reader, it either needs to say it's screen reader
accessible/enabled or whatever they call it, or that it has enhanced
type/typesetting in the book's info. I don't know *why* Amazon set
things up that way, I'm assuming fights with publishers, but I think
that's not the case for some reason with their Kindle apps for mobile
devices. So I suspect what's happening is that this mystery book doesn't
have the required feature enabled, so NVDA can't see it. Of course, I
could be entirely wrong, but that's my guess.


On 9/23/2019 9:40, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Hope,


If I could choose the sysnthesizer and the speed, I guess I wouldn't
mind letting the Kindle app do the reading. But the synthesizer they
use and the speed with which it reads are both losers in my book. If
the tts within the Kindle application can see the text, and voice over
can see the text, why can't NVDA see it without having to do a page by
page ocr?


Mary

On 9/23/2019 7:07 AM, Hope Williamson wrote:
When I'm reading a Kindle book. I exit NVDA, and let the Kindle do
the reading. Sometimes I start narrator, but it's really unnecessary.

On 9/23/2019 7:01 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
NVDA plus r does yield text. Turning off the synthesizer within the
Kindle app with control t doesn't do anything for nvda, i.e. it
still doesn't read anything. there is obviously text here, or else
the book wouldn't read on my phone. But for whatever reason, NVDA
isn't seeing the text unless you do an ocr. That's not an efficient
way to read a book. I'd sure like to know what's up with Kindle for
pc here.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 3:22 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you use the NVDA key and are to scan the image.
Does it find anything?

Sile
On Sep 22, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...>
wrote:

Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read
Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice
automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is
apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app
starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell
Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus
work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the
selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by
NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book
reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a
screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those,
since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm
missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and
speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary






Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

John Isige
 

I'm guessing somebody already told you. In order for Kindle PC to read
books with a screen reader, it either needs to say it's screen reader
accessible/enabled or whatever they call it, or that it has enhanced
type/typesetting in the book's info. I don't know *why* Amazon set
things up that way, I'm assuming fights with publishers, but I think
that's not the case for some reason with their Kindle apps for mobile
devices. So I suspect what's happening is that this mystery book doesn't
have the required feature enabled, so NVDA can't see it. Of course, I
could be entirely wrong, but that's my guess.

On 9/23/2019 9:40, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Hope,


If I could choose the sysnthesizer and the speed, I guess I wouldn't
mind letting the Kindle app do the reading. But the synthesizer they
use and the speed with which it reads are both losers in my book. If
the tts within the Kindle application can see the text, and voice over
can see the text, why can't NVDA see it without having to do a page by
page ocr?


Mary

On 9/23/2019 7:07 AM, Hope Williamson wrote:
When I'm reading a Kindle book. I exit NVDA, and let the Kindle do
the reading. Sometimes I start narrator, but it's really unnecessary.

On 9/23/2019 7:01 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
NVDA plus r does yield text. Turning off the synthesizer within the
Kindle app with control t doesn't do anything for nvda, i.e. it
still doesn't read anything. there is obviously text here, or else
the book wouldn't read on my phone. But for whatever reason, NVDA
isn't seeing the text unless you do an ocr. That's not an efficient
way to read a book. I'd sure like to know what's up with Kindle for
pc here.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 3:22 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you use the NVDA key and are to scan the image.
Does it find anything?

Sile
On Sep 22, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...>
wrote:

Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read
Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice
automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is
apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app
starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell
Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus
work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the
selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by
NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book
reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a
screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those,
since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm
missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and
speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary





Re: THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
More than one what?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: 23 September 2019 14:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON

I hate to chime in on this post asking this question, but where can I
find that cool little addon that allows me to update more than one at
a time.

On 9/23/19, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi Steve

To view/change synthesizers, the command NVDA+Control+s will open the Select
synthesizer dialog. Use NVDA+Control+v to open the speech dialog in which
you can select the voice you want. (you can also change synth in this dialog
too). The WeatherPlus addon only voices the weather forecast, it doesn’t
present it in a dialog box. If you have set the option to put the weather
forcast on the clipboard, open a text file and try pasting from clipboard.




Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen
Thacker
Sent: 23 September 2019 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON



Hi, I don’t know, it was the one that I installed when first installing
NVDA. If I need to know please tell me how to find out the synthesiser?



Cheers, Steve



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From: Chris Mullins <mailto:cjmullins29@...>
Sent: 23 September 2019 09:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON



Hi Steve

What synthesizer are you using?



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen
Thacker
Sent: 23 September 2019 02:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON



Hi, I have setup the Weather Plus with my city and all the other options I
wish to be read within the forecast. However when I press NVDA key with w
nothing happens at all so what is the remedy please?



Thanks for any help, Steveh



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From: Chris Mullins <mailto:cjmullins29@...>
Sent: 22 September 2019 22:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON



Hi

Once you have set a location, the most frequently used commands are

NVDA+w to read todays forecast

NVDA+Shift+w to read forecast for up to the next 9 days



If you try pressing NVDA+w and you get an error saying the WOE Id is
missing, you need to set a location, as follows:



1. Open the NVDA menu using NVDA+n

2. Press the letter p to open the preferences sub-menu

3. Press the letter s until you find “Weather Plus Settings sub-menu s”, and
press enter

4. Press the letter m to open the “Set and manage your cities” dialog box.

5. in the edit box, type in your location and postcode in the form CityName,
PostCode

6. Tab to and press "test" button.

7 if the location is valid you can hear a beep , tab to the details button
and press it to read the location details.

8. you can set the location as the Preset default or simply add to your
list using the appropriate buttons

9. Tab through the other controls, checking options you want to include in
the forecast for your location.

10. When done, tab to OK and press enter



If you want to learn more about the other features of Weather_Plus you must
read the readme.html file you find on the

nvda menu, preferences submenu, weather plus settings, documentation.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen
Thacker
Sent: 22 September 2019 19:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] THE WEATHER 7.1 ADDON



Hi, when I arrived home late last night, Saturday, I switched on my pc which
uses Windows 10 64 bit and the latest version of NVDA and it asked me if I
wanted to upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1. I have now the latest version on my pc,
but how do I use this addon, ie what keys do I press to get results please?



Thanks for any help, Steve Thacker from the UK.



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Re: NVDA and accessible kindle book

Mary Otten
 

Hi Hope,


If I could choose the sysnthesizer and the speed, I guess I wouldn't mind letting the Kindle app do the reading. But the synthesizer they use and the speed with which it reads are both losers in my book. If the tts within the Kindle application can see the text, and voice over can see the text, why can't NVDA see it without having to do a page by page ocr?


Mary

On 9/23/2019 7:07 AM, Hope Williamson wrote:
When I'm reading a Kindle book. I exit NVDA, and let the Kindle do the reading. Sometimes I start narrator, but it's really unnecessary.

On 9/23/2019 7:01 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
NVDA plus r does yield text. Turning off the synthesizer within the Kindle app with control t doesn't do anything for nvda, i.e. it still doesn't read anything. there is obviously text here, or else the book wouldn't read on my phone. But for whatever reason, NVDA isn't seeing the text unless you do an ocr. That's not an efficient way to read a book. I'd sure like to know what's up with Kindle for pc here.


Mary

On 9/23/2019 3:22 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
What happens if you use the NVDA key and are to scan the image. Does it find anything?

Sile
On Sep 22, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:

Hi folks,


This might not turn out to be an NVDA issue, but ...


I use the Kindle for PC with NVDA as well as my phone to read Kindle books. I just purchased one which, when I open it, a voice automatically starts reading at a speed that I did not set. It is apparently the tts that goes into action when the Kindle app starts reading something, kind of like what happens when you tell Acrobat reader to read out loud.


In the case of this book, NVDA sees no text at all. All the menus work. But when I do an insert down to start a read all from the selected chapter in the table of contents, nothing is read by NVDA. On my phone using the Voice Over screen reader, this book reads just fine, thank you very much.


I am aware that there are a few books that you can't read with a screen reader, period. But this doesn't seem to be one of those, since it is working fine on my phone. Is there some setting I'm missing that would allow me to use NVDA and my preferred voice and speed over the speech that comes from the Kindle program itself?


Mary