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Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

zahra
 

how can someone set thunderbird that not download any email and not
save anythings on the computer locally?
i wish to use thunderbird, but as someone told, it downloaded
thousands of my historical emails to my computer and even update my
emails again anytime that i use thunderbird!
doing this, waiste both my hard disk space and my internet charge.
although i selected emap for my gmail in thunderbird, when i use arrow
keys to navigate between my emails and folders in thunderbird, it
seems thunderbird download them automaticly without my permission or
confirmation!
this link explain using gmail with thunderbird.
if i understood correctly, it claims that thunderbird download emails
automaticly.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail

On 9/29/19, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:
I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you
delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing
is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail,
there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't
understand why so many are having this issue.



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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Gene
 

You can still use Windows Live mail and a lot of people do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Even though I am running the latest version of TB, I went looking for resources and links for others to try. Check the below links. First, you can always, you know, file bug reports? Maybe? On the actual git site? Maybe? Anyway, aside from OE Classic, homepage link, The below links boast some email alternatives.

  1. Alternate email clients by Mozilla.
  2. Another list of email clients. All open source.
  3. TB on Github. File bug reports.

Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Don H
 

I have no issues using Thunderbird with NVDA and never have. It is responsive and easy to use. Using Thunderbird 60 on Win 10 1903 and NVDA 2019.2. I have four different Email addresses, three from my Internet provider and one from Gmail. Using Pop3.
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've ben having issues since tBird 60, so last year, , same lag as everyone else, typng etc, Even the 64 bit version lags just a bit as well.

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On 29 Sep 2019, at 6:14, Gene wrote:

I see no reason for people to upgrade Thunderbird every time one is offerred.  It may be, as a list member implied, that the problem is worse with one or morenewer versions.  Has this problem been around since before Quantum Thunderbird or did it coincide with Quantum? 
 
Unless people want new features, which usually have nothing to do with e-mail, they might solve the problem by going back to older versions and seeing where the problem no longer exists or is minor.
 
Of course, there is always the possibility of vulnerabilities in older versions of Thunderbird but e-mail is a very old protocol and I doubt anything, or anything serious, exists, going back a good way.
 
Gene,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Hi.

No issues here either and I've been using it for years.

Cheers,

Mo.


On 29/09/2019 02:35, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I don't get it either.


On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Robert Kingett
 

Even though I am running the latest version of TB, I went looking for resources and links for others to try. Check the below links. First, you can always, you know, file bug reports? Maybe? On the actual git site? Maybe? Anyway, aside from OE Classic, homepage link, The below links boast some email alternatives.

  1. Alternate email clients by Mozilla.
  2. Another list of email clients. All open source.
  3. TB on Github. File bug reports.
Accessing Chrome History

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Hello.  I find I cannot see all my Chrome history using NVDA, and can barely do so using JAWS. Chrome keeps history for three months, but I can’t seem to scroll past the last couple days. If a search of history yields lots of results, I can’t see all of them. Is there a way to do this that I’m missing?

 

Dean

 
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Gene
 

I see no reason for people to upgrade Thunderbird every time one is offerred.  It may be, as a list member implied, that the problem is worse with one or morenewer versions.  Has this problem been around since before Quantum Thunderbird or did it coincide with Quantum? 
 
Unless people want new features, which usually have nothing to do with e-mail, they might solve the problem by going back to older versions and seeing where the problem no longer exists or is minor.
 
Of course, there is always the possibility of vulnerabilities in older versions of Thunderbird but e-mail is a very old protocol and I doubt anything, or anything serious, exists, going back a good way.
 
Gene,

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Hi.

No issues here either and I've been using it for years.

Cheers,

Mo.


On 29/09/2019 02:35, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I don't get it either.


On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: NVDA With RH Voice SAPI5

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I have added them all together the files that are needed. This includes the nvda rh add on the language data one and the 4 voices.


You will need to unzip the package and install them  all if you want all 4 voices .


The link to the drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7zvw44w0bg17cx/rh%20voice%20package.zip?dl=0

I will most probably remove the one with the 2 files in it and leave this one up for at least 24 to 48 hours.


Gene nz


On 29/09/2019 10:43 AM, coccinelle@... wrote:

Hi Gene,

I hate to bother you.  I was able to download the main file “RH voice.zip” but even with my daughter’s help, we could not get to download the other file “RHVoice-1.0.0.nvda-addon” 

Pls help.  Whatever you do is greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

No issues here either and I've been using it for years.

Cheers,

Mo.


On 29/09/2019 02:35, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I don't get it either.


On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Brian Sackrider
 

    cConciter yourself very lucky that you don't get the lag.  My friend has jaws and he does not get the lag or the freeze ups.  I use nvda and I don't keep any messages in any folders in thunder bird.  When I get the big freeze I have to restart nvda and this only happens in thunder bird and no whear else.  I have global search unchecked and that does help somewhat but not all is as it should be.  It seems to be worse on the latest version 68 and on 60 it is not very bad.  It's a problem with that version and nvda. 

Brian Sackrider

On 9/28/2019 7:42 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Right, so I didn't do what you did, and jaws is still doing fine with tb while NVDA most times struggles.  So what is the catch there?

On 9/29/2019 6:34 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I don't get it either.


On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: I'm back

Gene
 

Thank you.  To avoid cluttering the list, I'll thank those in advance who respond on list.  But far better, would be to write me at
to avoid list clutter.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm back

Sorry to hear that.  I wish you a prompt recovery.

Will keep you in my prayer.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 8:11 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm back

 

I was unexpectedly hospitalized and I didn’t have my computer.  So I didn’t have a way too notify you.  I'm sorry for the concern and worry of members.  I'm back, though I’m somewhat tired and I may not be as active for now, though I’ll monitor the list as closely as usual.

 

I have so much mail that I’m just going to start from here and not the enormous amount of mail I’ve received while I was away.  If anyone sent me anything they specifically wanted me to respond to, please send it again.

 

I’m glad to be back.

 

Gene
Re: I'm back

Pascal Lambert
 

Sorry to hear that.  I wish you a prompt recovery.

Will keep you in my prayer.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 8:11 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm back

 

I was unexpectedly hospitalized and I didn’t have my computer.  So I didn’t have a way too notify you.  I'm sorry for the concern and worry of members.  I'm back, though I’m somewhat tired and I may not be as active for now, though I’ll monitor the list as closely as usual.

 

I have so much mail that I’m just going to start from here and not the enormous amount of mail I’ve received while I was away.  If anyone sent me anything they specifically wanted me to respond to, please send it again.

 

I’m glad to be back.

 

Gene
I'm back

Gene
 

I was unexpectedly hospitalized and I didn’t have my computer.  So I didn’t have a way too notify you.  I'm sorry for the concern and worry of members.  I'm back, though I’m somewhat tired and I may not be as active for now, though I’ll monitor the list as closely as usual.
 
I have so much mail that I’m just going to start from here and not the enormous amount of mail I’ve received while I was away.  If anyone sent me anything they specifically wanted me to respond to, please send it again.
 
I’m glad to be back.
 
Gene
Re: NVDA With RH Voice SAPI5

Roger Stewart
 

Agreed here! The second male voice is the one I'm using now. The 2 female voices do need some work though.
Roger









On 9/28/2019 4:53 PM, Richard Wells wrote:

Gene: I am using the voices just fine now that I have the main .nvda-addon. I could get use to the second male voice: BDL  very easily. Thank you so much for your always spot on help.

On 9/28/2019 9:28 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
Ok, I got the zip file just fine. Where do you get the language files?
Thanks.
Roger









On 9/27/2019 6:21 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


I have zipped the main file and also the language one if needed. I did not add any voices.


I will leave there for 24 hours.


The link to the drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8ga3uuiov5o847/main%20file%20and%20language%20RH%20voice.zip?dl=0

Out of curosity are you using internet explorer when you go to download those files as if I remember right they change the extensions to zip instead of leaving as usual. nvda add on.


Gene nz


On 28/09/2019 4:03 AM, Richard Wells wrote:

Gene: I downloaded what I thought might be the main file and it was a .7z archive. I have all four voices and the English add-on, but I am missing the main one. A Dropbox link would be nice. Thanks

On 9/26/2019 10:30 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


the first add on you get is under a heading called nvda it says like main add on and will need to be installed.


then jump down to the english part and under that is another one for language data or some thing like that it will also need to be installed.


Just under it is 4 english voices you will need to download also and install the ones you want.

so if you only get one that will be a starter.


After the mentioned files have been installed you should be able to see the voices.


You just need to change your synth to RH voice first then pick your voices second or voice you want to use.

Hopefully it should get you up and running at the worst I can drop box main add on language one and the 2 voices i have here.


Gene nz







On 27/09/2019 2:23 PM, Richard Wells wrote:
Could someone direct me to the driver file? I have the English add-on
and four, English voices, but I am obviously missing another driver add-on.

On 9/26/2019 9:21 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Are there Spanish voices yet for?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 26 sep 2019, a la(s) 6:03 p. m., Richard Wells <richwels@...> escribió:

I was able to use all four English voices with NVDA using SAPI5. They
are not bad. I do wonder why the NVDA add-ons aren't being seen in the
synthesizer list after installation though.









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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Right, so I didn't do what you did, and jaws is still doing fine with tb while NVDA most times struggles.  So what is the catch there?

On 9/29/2019 6:34 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Shaun Everiss
 

Well it depends what you are doing.

I do have my performance settings quite high, but yeah the system is lagging a lot between tasks, but I am on battery and working the system quite hard now.

Its holding charge quite well but since I don't go out as much I need to use my battery when doing work which is not audio related as I knew it chews battery a lot faster.




On 29/09/2019 11:34 am, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.
Re: Pop-up messages in Windows 10

Sascha Cowley
 

That's a pro security tip right there!

On 29/09/2019 08:18, David Griffith wrote:
If, when you receive a notification, you press Windows A and can the find the offending notification, you will often find a do not disturb type option on the context menu which will say do not notify me of message like this.
I used this to block the constant nagging, for example, from java to update.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: 28 September 2019 01:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Pop-up messages in Windows 10

Hello all


I know there is no way to access the text of pop-up notifications in Windows, but is there a shortcut key to make them all go away? The reason I ask is that occasionally when I am presenting using powerpoint one comes along and I don't know how to make it go away ...


--Sile
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Sascha Cowley
 

Yeah, I've never had issues with NVDA and Thunderbird.

On 29/09/2019 08:34, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.
Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Robert Kingett
 

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.
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