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Re: Accessing Chrome History

 

unfortunately chrome has not an easy way to set that it clears history
after closing the browser.

On 9/29/19, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
How have you got it set under browsing history in chrome.


I just checked on mine mine is set to clear every time I close the browser I
think it is called all time but it looks as though the history can stay
there for up to 4 week depending how you have it set.


You will have to have a look under the settings then I think it was privacy
part for it or search for it and it will come up.


Gene nz


On 29/09/2019 11:41 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
Hello. I find I cannot see all my Chrome history using NVDA, and can barely
do so using JAWS. Chrome keeps history for three months, but I can’t seem to
scroll past the last couple days. If a search of history yields lots of
results, I can’t see all of them. Is there a way to do this that I’m
missing?

Dean


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Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

i did not recieve answer to my question.
how should i set thunderbird that never stores any emails to my computer?
and just works like web interface of my gmail?!

On 9/30/19, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am not getting this but I don't doubt that it is happening for some,
anyway if jaws works for you but I can't see how it would be better.
but anyway if it works fare enough.

On 28/09/2019 23:34, Robert Kingett wrote:
I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If
you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely
nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping
junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I
don't understand why so many are having this issue.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: excel and headers not working as intended

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello all,

Sorry to be unresponsive for so long. I had to unrelatedly walk away from the excel training for a few days including a few coincidental restarts. When I went back, it worked. 

I've got nothing....

Thank you for the suggestions and offers of more in depth help offline. Here is hoping whatever was wrong before is fixed. I had recently installed some updates and not yet restarted more than a couple of times so perhaps impacts were still trickling down. 

Overall, I am enjoying the training greatly. 

Thanks again!
sally  

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:36 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

Sally, I just did what you described and it works for me. My question is where are you when you begin navigating? Tell us what your starting point and in which direction are you moving?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

 

Hi Sally,

 

From what you described, what you are doing and what we suggested should normally work.  If you can send me offlist a copy of the spreadsheet you are using, I can have a look at that.  If you let me know which lesson in the material you are working on, I can double check that they are in fact correct.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:40 AM Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:

I am aware of both these points and they do not address the issues I am having. Any other suggestions?

 

Regards,

Sally

 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:15 PM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

The other thing to note is that column headers are only announced as you move left or right (between columns), and row headers are only announced as you change rows.  If you have column headers set and press the down arrow - the column hasn't changed so the header isn't read again.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:21 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:

Hi,

You also need to check the tables , which is the one just before the column and row.

Best
George

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

Hello all,

I don't see anything describing my situation in recent conversations so
am starting a new thread.

I'm going through the NVDA excel training and have found that when
following the precise directions in the training, headers are not
reading as it says they should.

I have a set of cells with data. I go to the start of the row that I
want to use as column headers and press NVDA+shift+c.

NVDA announces A2 set as start of column headers. This is correct.

However that header is not read when I navigate through the table.

If I repeat the set column header hotkey, it says that the cell is
already set as the column header. If I press it twice rapidly it says
that the column header is removed.

Everything works as it should right up until I actually start navigating
the table data and do not hear headers spoken.

I am using NVDA 19.2, MS excel 1908 most recent build.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Am I missing something in settings? I
do have the table information checkbox for headers selected in the
document settings of NVDA.

If the instructions in the excel tutorial are missing a step it would be
good to correct that as well.

Thank you in advance for help troubleshooting this.

Warmly,
Sally








 

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Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Kevin Cussick
 

I am not getting this but I don't doubt that it is happening for some, anyway if jaws works for you but I can't see how it would be better. but anyway if it works fare enough.

On 28/09/2019 23:34, Robert Kingett wrote:
I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


Re: NVDA With RH Voice SAPI5

Kevin Cussick
 

Pascal, maybe a bit late oon this. anyway for anyone else who wants the files as this is open source I see no harm in sharing. url to the folder below with addon and all voices in English only.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3gdZP5YMQUWGBWIW12w?e=1NStyJ

On 28/09/2019 22:43, coccinelle@tds.net wrote:
Hi Gene,
I hate to bother you.  I was able to download the main file “RH voice.zip” but even with my daughter’s help, we could not get to download the other file “RHVoice-1.0.0.nvda-addon”
Pls help.  Whatever you do is greatly appreciated.
Blessings
Pascal


Code Factory NVDA Add on instructions Please

Karmelo
 

Dear all,

 

How can I get instructions to upgrade the Code Factory NVDA add-on from temporary to permanent?  I have installed the software and would like to purchase it Do I have to reinstall to get to the bit where it asks one to purchase the license?

 

Thank you,

 

Charles Borg

Sliema, Malta

E:

karm212@...

 


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Jaws does for me.

On 9/29/2019 11:39 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
The problem with JAWS and thunderbird is that it doesn't announce the message you're on like NVDA does. I wish it would but it just doesn't.


Re: Accessing Chrome History

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

How have you got it set under browsing history in chrome.


I just checked on mine mine is set to clear every time I close the browser I think it is called all time but it looks as though the history can stay there for up to 4 week depending how you have it set.


You will have to have a look under the settings then I think it was privacy part for it or search for it and it will come up.


Gene nz


On 29/09/2019 11:41 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello.  I find I cannot see all my Chrome history using NVDA, and can barely do so using JAWS. Chrome keeps history for three months, but I can’t seem to scroll past the last couple days. If a search of history yields lots of results, I can’t see all of them. Is there a way to do this that I’m missing?

 

Dean

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I have not had any issues at all but then I don't keep a full inbox, I kill all my list mail after I have it.

You can still get old 52.9.1 if you so want, it won't be secure anymore but you can use it.

I have never had issues with tb at all not for a while anyway.

I don't use any addons though.



On 30/09/2019 4:57 am, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I used to use thunderbird but I stopped because it was extremely sluggish with both jaws and NVDA. Now I’m using the mail app and it’s working great with NVDA.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I stopped using Thunderbird because of excessive memory usage (there is no reason for an email client to use 800 plus MB of ram) and absolutely horrific responsiveness, at least with NVDA.

Outlook, for me, is working fantastic. Windows 10 mail was really nice until it started expanding all my threaded messages. So was thunderbird until going through folders /gmail labels resulted in a 5-10 second wait time with NVDA per folder. That is hardly productive.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 29, 2019 9:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I've ben having issues since tBird 60, so last year, , same lag as everyone else, typng etc, Even the 64 bit version lags just a bit as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Sep 2019, at 6:14, Gene wrote:

I see no reason for people to upgrade Thunderbird every time one is offerred.  It may be, as a list member implied, that the problem is worse with one or morenewer versions.  Has this problem been around since before Quantum Thunderbird or did it coincide with Quantum? 

 

Unless people want new features, which usually have nothing to do with e-mail, they might solve the problem by going back to older versions and seeing where the problem no longer exists or is minor.

 

Of course, there is always the possibility of vulnerabilities in older versions of Thunderbird but e-mail is a very old protocol and I doubt anything, or anything serious, exists, going back a good way.

 

Gene,

----- Original Message -----

From: Mobeen Iqbal

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

Hi.

No issues here either and I've been using it for years.

Cheers,

Mo.

 

On 29/09/2019 02:35, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

I don't get it either.

On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.

 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: I'm back

 

as always, i always appreciate you, your great support for me and
other people in the list.
i dont forget you in my praying, i always pray that God bless you and
divine infinite and especial mercy i pray for you!

On 9/29/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I was unexpectedly hospitalized and I didn’t have my computer. So I didn’t
have a way too notify you. I'm sorry for the concern and worry of members.
I'm back, though I’m somewhat tired and I may not be as active for now,
though I’ll monitor the list as closely as usual.

I have so much mail that I’m just going to start from here and not the
enormous amount of mail I’ve received while I was away. If anyone sent me
anything they specifically wanted me to respond to, please send it again.

I’m glad to be back.

Gene



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

David Griffith
 

If you want to add folder in Windows Mail then

  1. Press control Y to bring up the folder list.
  2. Cursor down until you land on the email account in which you want to add a folder.
  3. Now simply press space to create a new folder – you will be prompted to type in a name for the folder.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hope Williamson
Sent: 29 September 2019 17:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

Unfortunately the issue with the mail app is that there are no local

folders. I have lots of recipes and things that I like to save.

 

 

 


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

kavein thran
 

great discussion here, does the problem persist in version prior to 60?

On 9/30/19, Angela Delicata <angeladelicata@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally agree on that! No lack at all, really! But, I understand some
may have the issue.


Angela from Italy



Il 29/09/2019 00:34, Robert Kingett ha scritto:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If
you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that
absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather
than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I
don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.




Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Angela Delicata
 

Totally agree on that! No lack at all, really! But, I understand some may have the issue.


Angela from Italy



Il 29/09/2019 00:34, Robert Kingett ha scritto:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Robert Logue
 

I too, have had lags with NVDA and Thunderbird 60.9.0

I followed the suggestions others posted here and performance is much better.


I have not tried Jaws when things lag.

Can't compare to Narrator as Narrator in Win1809 doesn't work properly with Thunderbird.


I still have some delay and sluggishness when Thunderbird starts as it retrieves and filters mail. But, responsiveness improves after a few minutes.



Bob


On 2019-09-28 5:08 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well it depends what you are doing.

I do have my performance settings quite high, but yeah the system is lagging a lot between tasks, but I am on battery and working the system quite hard now.

Its holding charge quite well but since I don't go out as much I need to use my battery when doing work which is not audio related as I knew it chews battery a lot faster.




On 29/09/2019 11:34 am, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I personally intensely dislike the Win10 Mail App, but you can create folders to your heart's content using it.  Just get to the More control under the Folders section, activate it, and at the very top of the pane that opens is a control for "Add a new folder."

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

Unfortunately the issue with the mail app is that there are no local folders. I have lots of recipes and things that I like to save.


Re: I'm back

Dejan Ristic
 

Friend,


Welcome back! Do not worry, please. Relax!


Take care!

On 29/09/2019 02:11, Gene wrote:
I was unexpectedly hospitalized and I didn’t have my computer.  So I didn’t have a way too notify you.  I'm sorry for the concern and worry of members.  I'm back, though I’m somewhat tired and I may not be as active for now, though I’ll monitor the list as closely as usual.
 
I have so much mail that I’m just going to start from here and not the enormous amount of mail I’ve received while I was away.  If anyone sent me anything they specifically wanted me to respond to, please send it again.
 
I’m glad to be back.
 
Gene

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually, nvda does not say the message number. It will read it as if it was in a table which is anyoing. I. wish I could get that to stopbut oh well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Sep 2019, at 8:41, Hope Williamson wrote:

Let me clarify what I mean. I mean JAWS won't announce the message number, and NVDA will. I wish it would but it won't.


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I used to use thunderbird but I stopped because it was extremely sluggish with both jaws and NVDA. Now I’m using the mail app and it’s working great with NVDA.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I stopped using Thunderbird because of excessive memory usage (there is no reason for an email client to use 800 plus MB of ram) and absolutely horrific responsiveness, at least with NVDA.

Outlook, for me, is working fantastic. Windows 10 mail was really nice until it started expanding all my threaded messages. So was thunderbird until going through folders /gmail labels resulted in a 5-10 second wait time with NVDA per folder. That is hardly productive.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 29, 2019 9:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I've ben having issues since tBird 60, so last year, , same lag as everyone else, typng etc, Even the 64 bit version lags just a bit as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Sep 2019, at 6:14, Gene wrote:

I see no reason for people to upgrade Thunderbird every time one is offerred.  It may be, as a list member implied, that the problem is worse with one or morenewer versions.  Has this problem been around since before Quantum Thunderbird or did it coincide with Quantum? 

 

Unless people want new features, which usually have nothing to do with e-mail, they might solve the problem by going back to older versions and seeing where the problem no longer exists or is minor.

 

Of course, there is always the possibility of vulnerabilities in older versions of Thunderbird but e-mail is a very old protocol and I doubt anything, or anything serious, exists, going back a good way.

 

Gene,

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

Hi.

No issues here either and I've been using it for years.

Cheers,

Mo.

 

On 29/09/2019 02:35, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

I don't get it either.

On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.

 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Tyler Wood
 

I stopped using Thunderbird because of excessive memory usage (there is no reason for an email client to use 800 plus MB of ram) and absolutely horrific responsiveness, at least with NVDA.

Outlook, for me, is working fantastic. Windows 10 mail was really nice until it started expanding all my threaded messages. So was thunderbird until going through folders /gmail labels resulted in a 5-10 second wait time with NVDA per folder. That is hardly productive.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 29, 2019 9:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

I've ben having issues since tBird 60, so last year, , same lag as everyone else, typng etc, Even the 64 bit version lags just a bit as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Sep 2019, at 6:14, Gene wrote:

I see no reason for people to upgrade Thunderbird every time one is offerred.  It may be, as a list member implied, that the problem is worse with one or morenewer versions.  Has this problem been around since before Quantum Thunderbird or did it coincide with Quantum? 

 

Unless people want new features, which usually have nothing to do with e-mail, they might solve the problem by going back to older versions and seeing where the problem no longer exists or is minor.

 

Of course, there is always the possibility of vulnerabilities in older versions of Thunderbird but e-mail is a very old protocol and I doubt anything, or anything serious, exists, going back a good way.

 

Gene,

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

 

Hi.

No issues here either and I've been using it for years.

Cheers,

Mo.

 

On 29/09/2019 02:35, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

I don't get it either.

On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

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