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In-Process 1st October

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week in In-process, a great milestone for NVDA, a new beta, a shout-out to our friends at Intopia and heaps more!

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-1st-october/

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


NVDA on tablet with touchscreen only

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I remember a while back I think there was a podcast on NVDA and
tablet-interactions with touchscreens only. I'm going to be going on a
trip taking a tablet only. It does not have nor do I want to bring an
external bluetooth keyboard. I am wondering if anyone knows where that
podcast is on tablets. This is a surface pro something, it is running
win10.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: a bit of help with patreon

Sarah k Alawami
 

The page is at patreon.com/tffppodcast but the thing happened in my own settings where I could not choose charge patrons up front. The box was not checked and could not be checked with anything but a mouse. A dialogue then appears which you confirm the answer then click save.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 30 Sep 2019, at 19:46, Stephen wrote:

Is it possible I can get to the patrion page in question so I can have a look at the page that's causing the problem?
Thanks.
At 12:14 PM 10/1/2019, you wrote:

Thanks. In the mean time Ill just do my best wit what tools I have and keep getting those users the best I can. Aira to the rescue.

Thanks all.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 30 Sep 2019, at 16:58, Robert Kingett wrote:

I wish I could reply! I really do, because I am biting my nails. I want to scream out what's coming with Patreon, but I can't. The only thing I am allowed to say is, hang in there, really soon! Accessibility changes are coming! Hang in there really soon, but things will get much better very soon. Keep an eye on my structured negotiations portfolio link on the below page.

http://www.blindjournalist.wordpress.com/tech


Re: Edge beta NVDA bug reporting.

 

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 10:13 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
I usually do it under the help and feed back section
And, for the record, this is precisely how Microsoft specifies that feedback for Edge Dev should be provided.  It is quick and easy, too.  There is a keyboard shortcut in Edge Dev, ALT+SHIFT+I, that opens the feedback mechanism directly.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: a bit of help with patreon

Stephen
 

Is it possible I can get to the patrion page in question so I can have a look at the page that's causing the problem?
Thanks.

At 12:14 PM 10/1/2019, you wrote:

Thanks. In the mean time Ill just do my best wit what tools I have and keep getting those users the best I can. Aira to the rescue.

Thanks all.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 30 Sep 2019, at 16:58, Robert Kingett wrote:

I wish I could reply! I really do, because I am biting my nails. I want to scream out what's coming with Patreon, but I can't. The only thing I am allowed to say is, hang in there, really soon! Accessibility changes are coming! Hang in there really soon, but things will get much better very soon. Keep an eye on my structured negotiations portfolio link on the below page.

http://www.blindjournalist.wordpress.com/tech


Re: Zoom with nvda

 

About the time limit thing, you read correctly. Alt+a mutes and unnmutes audio, alt+v turns on and off your video. NVDA WILL READ ALERTS TO YOU. Alerts are when you turn on/off video, audio, or when someone joins the meeting.


If you are in the home tab, you will see a search field. Tab past that, and you will see a drop down button. When you down-arrow, you will eventually get to settings. Most everything explains itself as far as settings go. There is a tab under settings that gives you all keyboard shortcuts you could ever want. You can change them if you wish to. I hope this helps you a bit.






On 9/30/2019 6:18 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys


Does any one know of a tutorial for us to learn how to use this program?

There seems to be videos aimed more at the sighted.


I was browsing there website at https://zoom.us

It looks as though you can do one on one for free but if in a group only up to 40 minutes for free if I read it right.


Has any one used it or have notes on it to use it.


I have been asked to use it they sent me a link and it is all setup to go into a room etc and had a look around the app I think you would call it.


But I was also looking at it from the other side you setting up a room or inviting some one into the room etc if you get what I mean but not going into all the other features it has.



Any help would be great I guess also down the track to try it out from the other side the basic's of using it with some one.



Gene nz


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Zoom with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I am looking at it from the windows desk top version with nvda.


I have got down how to do it from joining a meeting.

Except when we went to do it today he said I was clear but I could not hear him but both mic and speakers worked correctly on my side and he also said his before in another meeting.

But not in this one.



I have not done it from the other side yet running it but not the other way if hosting one or a person one on one if some one chats that way.


Apart from signing up for a free account writing down the basic's of it from that side then I need to try it out with some one to finish off the tutorial.

I guess a work in progress.


Would you have any thing written down? that I could follow?


Any help would be great if you could.


I guess also I will need to hook up with some one as well to test it out.

I might be able to do this between 2 computer here at home? or abroad.


Gene nz


On 1/10/2019 3:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I use this client all the time. If you have any questions feel free to ask. It's farily easy to use.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 30 Sep 2019, at 15:18, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys


Does any one know of a tutorial for us to learn how to use this program?

There seems to be videos aimed more at the sighted.


I was browsing there website at https://zoom.us

It looks as though you can do one on one for free but if in a group only up to 40 minutes for free if I read it right.


Has any one used it or have notes on it to use it.


I have been asked to use it they sent me a link and it is all setup to go into a room etc and had a look around the app I think you would call it.


But I was also looking at it from the other side you setting up a room or inviting some one into the room etc if you get what I mean but not going into all the other features it has.



Any help would be great I guess also down the track to try it out from the other side the basic's of using it with some one.



Gene nz


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: a bit of help with patreon

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks. In the mean time Ill just do my best wit what tools I have and keep getting those users the best I can. Aira to the rescue.

Thanks all.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 30 Sep 2019, at 16:58, Robert Kingett wrote:

I wish I could reply! I really do, because I am biting my nails. I want to scream out what's coming with Patreon, but I can't. The only thing I am allowed to say is, hang in there, really soon! Accessibility changes are coming! Hang in there really soon, but things will get much better very soon. Keep an eye on my structured negotiations portfolio link on the below page.

http://www.blindjournalist.wordpress.com/tech


Re: Zoom with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use this client all the time. If you have any questions feel free to ask. It's farily easy to use.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 30 Sep 2019, at 15:18, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys


Does any one know of a tutorial for us to learn how to use this program?

There seems to be videos aimed more at the sighted.


I was browsing there website at https://zoom.us

It looks as though you can do one on one for free but if in a group only up to 40 minutes for free if I read it right.


Has any one used it or have notes on it to use it.


I have been asked to use it they sent me a link and it is all setup to go into a room etc and had a look around the app I think you would call it.


But I was also looking at it from the other side you setting up a room or inviting some one into the room etc if you get what I mean but not going into all the other features it has.



Any help would be great I guess also down the track to try it out from the other side the basic's of using it with some one.



Gene nz


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Edge beta NVDA bug reporting.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I usually do it under the help and feed back section in the browser there is a menu like send feed back and you put it in there the last time i did it was very accessible.


Gene nz


On 1/10/2019 2:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

Can anyone give me a link where I can report NVDA focus issues to the Edge Beta development team? I am absolutely loving the new Edge, gonna switch to it as my primary browser when it comes out of beta, but when I am moving backwards in a page, there is a noticeable NVDA lag, and the focus almost resists moving backward on a page. It certainly is not as fluid as moving forward. Anyway, where, in the Edge feedback forums, do I report accessibility issues like this?

Gotta say though, you guys will love this browser when all the bugs are worked out of it. The menus are far easier to navigate through than Chrome, also.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Modifier Key Locking

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Dave,

Do you mean the NVDA modifier is stuck down (As in, if you press F12 on its own, NVDA reads the time - which is usually done with NVDA+F12), or that CAPS LOCK is stuck on?  For CAPS LOCK, because it is acting as the NVDA modifier, you need to press it TWICE quickly to toggle the caps lock feature itself.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:02 AM David Andrews <dandrews920@...> wrote:
I have a colleague who has asked me to post to this list for her.

She is using the Caps Lock key as the NVDA modifier, and it gets
stuck, that is always pressed.  Repeatedly hitting it, and exiting
NVDA and re-running it doesn't clear it up.  She is using Windows 7.

Dave






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Edge beta NVDA bug reporting.

 

Can anyone give me a link where I can report NVDA focus issues to the Edge Beta development team? I am absolutely loving the new Edge, gonna switch to it as my primary browser when it comes out of beta, but when I am moving backwards in a page, there is a noticeable NVDA lag, and the focus almost resists moving backward on a page. It certainly is not as fluid as moving forward. Anyway, where, in the Edge feedback forums, do I report accessibility issues like this?

Gotta say though, you guys will love this browser when all the bugs are worked out of it. The menus are far easier to navigate through than Chrome, also.


Re: Jaws is now doing better with thunderbird than nvda

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

I never experienced any lag with TB and NVDA either. My Windows 10 PC does have 8GB of RAM installed. Have like 4 different mail accounts configured.


I always compact my mailboxes when instructed by TB.


The main reason why I switched from JAWS to NVDA is how the Mozilla Apps Enhancements makes it so simple to navigate and read my mail in TB. Will never go back.


On 9/28/2019 6:34 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I never understood why people are getting this lag? I don't get it. If you delete your trash regularly, change the settings so that absolutely nothing is saved on the machine, and delete emails rather than keeping junk mail, there is no lag what so ever with NVDA. I don't get it, and I don't understand why so many are having this issue.


Re: Learning Python course

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thanks quentin
greatly appriciated
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Learning Python course

Hi everyone,

My apologies, I was on leave last week and am still catching up on messages and the group.  I'm not ignoring anyone :)

In the meantime, I saw this on Facebook, from CAVI - the Cisco Academy for the Vision Impaired.  They are running a Python course, online and open to anyone (and Linux Essentials for anyone interested in that as well).  I know there is often interest in learning Python and if that is you, then this may be a good opportunity.  They don't have it up on their site (or didn't last I checked), but see this facebook post for details: https://www.facebook.com/ciscovision/posts/2480801161980927?comment_id=2553215171406192&notif_id=1569841303908710&notif_t=feed_comment_reply 

Essentially:

"The courses we will be offering as of January 2020 will be, Python Essentials and Linux Essentials! 👌👍😃 If you could please send and email to neil.hines@..., with the course you'd like to participate in, plus your first and last name plus your date of birth and country of origin, we will be in contact over the next 2 weeks to confirm the course details and your enrolment into either offering, many thanks in advance," 

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: a bit of help with patreon

 

I wish I could reply! I really do, because I am biting my nails. I want to scream out what's coming with Patreon, but I can't. The only thing I am allowed to say is, hang in there, really soon! Accessibility changes are coming! Hang in there really soon, but things will get much better very soon. Keep an eye on my structured negotiations portfolio link on the below page.

http://www.blindjournalist.wordpress.com/tech


Learning Python course

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

My apologies, I was on leave last week and am still catching up on messages and the group.  I'm not ignoring anyone :)

In the meantime, I saw this on Facebook, from CAVI - the Cisco Academy for the Vision Impaired.  They are running a Python course, online and open to anyone (and Linux Essentials for anyone interested in that as well).  I know there is often interest in learning Python and if that is you, then this may be a good opportunity.  They don't have it up on their site (or didn't last I checked), but see this facebook post for details: https://www.facebook.com/ciscovision/posts/2480801161980927?comment_id=2553215171406192&notif_id=1569841303908710&notif_t=feed_comment_reply 

Essentially:

"The courses we will be offering as of January 2020 will be, Python Essentials and Linux Essentials! 👌👍😃 If you could please send and email to neil.hines@..., with the course you'd like to participate in, plus your first and last name plus your date of birth and country of origin, we will be in contact over the next 2 weeks to confirm the course details and your enrolment into either offering, many thanks in advance," 

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Zoom with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I came across the book not in my price range. I am looking at it from a nvda user using there platform.


I just come across some material that zoom sent to me in a chat so will be checking it out hopefully it is not a video or if it is and they describe it well maybe take notes.


Gene nz


On 1/10/2019 11:28 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Jonathan Mosen sold, and probably still sells, a book about Zoom.

 

The iOS app is quite accessible.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Zoom with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

Does any one know of a tutorial for us to learn how to use this program?

There seems to be videos aimed more at the sighted.

 

I was browsing there website at https://zoom.us

It looks as though you can do one on one for free but if in a group only up to 40 minutes for free if I read it right.

 

Has any one used it or have notes on it to use it.

 

I have been asked to use it they sent me a link and it is all setup to go into a room etc and had a look around the app I think you would call it.

 

But I was also looking at it from the other side you setting up a room or inviting some one into the room etc if you get what I mean but not going into all the other features it has.

 

 

Any help would be great I guess also down the track to try it out from the other side the basic's of using it with some one.

 

 

Gene nz

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Zoom with nvda

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Jonathan Mosen sold, and probably still sells, a book about Zoom.

 

The iOS app is quite accessible.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Zoom with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

Does any one know of a tutorial for us to learn how to use this program?

There seems to be videos aimed more at the sighted.

 

I was browsing there website at https://zoom.us

It looks as though you can do one on one for free but if in a group only up to 40 minutes for free if I read it right.

 

Has any one used it or have notes on it to use it.

 

I have been asked to use it they sent me a link and it is all setup to go into a room etc and had a look around the app I think you would call it.

 

But I was also looking at it from the other side you setting up a room or inviting some one into the room etc if you get what I mean but not going into all the other features it has.

 

 

Any help would be great I guess also down the track to try it out from the other side the basic's of using it with some one.

 

 

Gene nz

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Zoom with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


Does any one know of a tutorial for us to learn how to use this program?

There seems to be videos aimed more at the sighted.


I was browsing there website at https://zoom.us

It looks as though you can do one on one for free but if in a group only up to 40 minutes for free if I read it right.


Has any one used it or have notes on it to use it.


I have been asked to use it they sent me a link and it is all setup to go into a room etc and had a look around the app I think you would call it.


But I was also looking at it from the other side you setting up a room or inviting some one into the room etc if you get what I mean but not going into all the other features it has.



Any help would be great I guess also down the track to try it out from the other side the basic's of using it with some one.



Gene nz


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Modifier Key Locking

Gene
 

You're description raises the question of whether NVDA has anything to do with the problem.  Your description implies that it is a problem with the keyboard itself.  When you close NVDA, then run it again that doesn't unstick it and when you repeatedly press the key, that doesn't either. 
 
I have very seldom had keys stick when using NVDA.  When I did with JAWS years ago, the solutions you posed unstuck the key.  So at this point, we need to determine if NVDA is involved at all.  If the person has another screen-reader such as JAWS, what happens when you use it?  If Narrator is the only option, what happens when you run it and repeatedly use the caps lock key?
 
Also, is this an internal or external keyboard?  Is there another keyboard to test with?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 1:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] Modifier Key Locking

I have a colleague who has asked me to post to this list for her.

She is using the Caps Lock key as the NVDA modifier, and it gets
stuck, that is always pressed.  Repeatedly hitting it, and exiting
NVDA and re-running it doesn't clear it up.  She is using Windows 7.

Dave