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Re: and firefox

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Brian:

Thanks for that information.
Kevin Huber

On 7/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Alt a seems to work.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] and firefox


Hi Brian:
Alt-n will not work in Firefox, because it is an Internet Explorer
command.
The way I usually get to that message in Firefox is to press the f6 key
twice.
Kevin Huber

On 6/22/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris,

This is a SWAG based on my experience with JAWS and IE, but
when a notification bar such as the one you mention pops up in IE the
command ALT+N throws focus to it. Give that a try and see if it works
in
Firefox. Either way, please report back on your finding.
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Re: the new nod32 9.0?

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Gene:

I totally agree with you.
Kevin Huber

On 7/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
it takes a lot of continued work and resources to create such a program and
have it be properly effective. Why should blind programmers recreate the
wheel. Many programs, while they may not be fully accessible, are useable.
it's unfortunate that as programs come out with new versions, those that are
accessible often become less or inaccessible but while that is occurring,
some are becoming more accessible, at times because the developers are
working on accessibility for the program. I would much much rather have a
commercial program that I can see reviewed, which is made by a corporation
who does it for their business, then have some amateur programmers make
their own program.

And to add weight to my argument, one such program, I believe its open
source, is clam. It is poorly reviewed and I wouldn't use it.

Gene
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From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new nod32 9.0?


Hello:
I guess I know the answer to my question. But! I will ask it anyway.
There are a number of blind programmers/developers out and about. Why
have they not been able to create a blind friendly anti-virus program? If
it is a money issue? Why not seek funds from groups who will donate to
worthy projects? Why don't blind developer/programmers offer their
expertise and knowledge to the anti-virus developers?
I know that they are not good. But, I've seen some open source
anti-virus projects. So, it is possible to try and work on an anti-virus
project without requiring too much funding!
I do hope that at some point these issues will be dealt with so that
this topic would not come up so often on this list!


On 7/20/2016 12:38 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Exactly. These manufacturers may have accessibility in mind, but they
never make it a priority due to the small number of customers that are
visually impaired. In my view, no matter how small the number of visually
impaired users are, their right to use the software cannot be ignored.



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Re: NVDA not reading table in MSWord

Quentin Christensen
 

Oh that's ok - there were several things you ran into there and that
always compounds things! Sometimes just restarting (the app, the
computer, the user) does wonders even when it shouldn't seem to make a
difference.

All the best!

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On 22 July 2016 at 18:06, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Quentin,



What a magnificent reply! I will keep this nearby for future reference. I
look forward to the full document when it comes out.



Strangely, something has changed! I now find that I can read the offending
table. I spent about four hours yesterday struggling with various ways of
reading the document and getting a full analysis of how the table was
created.



As I reported last night, I found that I was able to read word documents
without any trouble by the end of the evening. Prompted by your request this
morning, I went to the original file attachment, saved it again, unblocked
it and tried the table in both browse and focus modes. I was surprised to
find that now the reading command works fine (control+alt+arrow keys).



The start-up screen is just as you describe, so I will try to remove that as
you instruct.



I apologise for raising an issue that has just evaporated! However, I
welcome the advice which you have given today.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: NVDA giving script errors with Internet Explorer

Jacob Kruger
 

Are you sure this isn't just an IE error on that page?


Under advanced settings, under tools menu, internet options, you can tell IE not to render/display script error warnings, and, this relates to javascript errors in the page itself.


Stay well


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On 2016-07-22 9:12 AM, Heaven Botma wrote:

Hi Kurt


I experience the same problem and it makes things rather difficult for my students when working in form fields.  I am not sure what causes the problem, but when it gives the error, just press Alt+Y and you should be able to continue with whatever you were doing.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kwe33647@...
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2016 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA giving script errors with Internet Explorer

 

Hi my name is Kurt,

I have the latest version of NVDA 2016.2.1 and experience a script error using the caps lock key.When I hit capslock on page Error "An error has occurred in the script on the page.

Error: Invalid calling object." 

Only happens with NVDA on in IE.

Issue doesn't happen in google chrome or firefox with NVDA on.

I am using Window 10 with the latest version of Internet Explorer.



Re: NVDA not reading table in MSWord

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

What a magnificent reply! I will keep this nearby for future reference. I look forward to the full document when it comes out.

 

Strangely, something has changed! I now find that I can read the offending table. I spent about four hours yesterday struggling with various ways of reading the document and getting a full analysis of how the table was created.

 

As I reported last night, I found that I was able to read word documents without any trouble by the end of the evening. Prompted by your request this morning, I went to the original file attachment, saved it again, unblocked it  and tried the table in both browse and focus modes. I was surprised to find that now the reading command works fine (control+alt+arrow keys).

 

The start-up screen is just as you describe, so I will try to remove that as you instruct.

 

I apologise for raising an issue that has just evaporated! However, I welcome the advice which you have given today.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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A bit of an odd question

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

If I create a portable version of nvda from a machine running say, windows7 over the network to a machine running XP. does the new copy try to look for UIA on the new machine fail and sort itself out or not when its run.
I ask this as if one puts a portable version, say on a stick or worse, a cd then moves it around between operating systems, from a version created the other way around, ie on the xp machine, does this then mean it will not see uia on a newer machine. I've not tried this yet, but I just wondered if anyone knew to avoid me trying it.

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Re: NVDA giving script errors with Internet Explorer

Heaven Botma <heaven@...>
 

Hi Kurt


I experience the same problem and it makes things rather difficult for my students when working in form fields.  I am not sure what causes the problem, but when it gives the error, just press Alt+Y and you should be able to continue with whatever you were doing.

 

Heaven Botma

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kwe33647@...
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2016 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA giving script errors with Internet Explorer

 

Hi my name is Kurt,

I have the latest version of NVDA 2016.2.1 and experience a script error using the caps lock key.When I hit capslock on page Error "An error has occurred in the script on the page.

Error: Invalid calling object." 

Only happens with NVDA on in IE.

Issue doesn't happen in google chrome or firefox with NVDA on.

I am using Window 10 with the latest version of Internet Explorer.


Re: jeffs nvda add on page

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Aw, bloody heck! You're right! Gurr! Hopefully he didn't get booted by his web hosting people.

Ben

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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 20:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] jeffs nvda add on page

I just wanted to tell you all that I can't get jeffs add on page to open at all. I was wondering if jeff took his web page down. If so I will be very sad because Jeff had some very good add ons for nvda.


Re: Accessing text boxes in Microsoft Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Pranav,

Firstly, the ideal solution here (even using Jaws to be honest), is to convince people not to use text boxes.

NVDA doesn't currently have a direct keystroke, it's something we could look into.  For now, though, there are still a couple of ways of reading text boxes currently:

If the text boxes are positioned "in line with text", they can be found within the text of the document.  Currently they are identified as "slash" though that's something we're working on.

Once you are in a text box (or picture or other object) you can press TAB to move between them.  You can add a text box into a document by pressing alt+n, x, enter then press escape once (so you are out of the text itself but the text box is still selected), then you can press TAB to move between the objects in the document (this wraps so if you press TAB on the last object in the document it will jump back to the first object).  Be sure to either delete the text box you added or not save changes to this document!

You can also use the accessibility checker, which is handy for finding things but I'll warn you it's not the most direct route:  In Word 2016 you can get to this from the "tell me what you want to do" edit box by pressing alt+q and typing "check", but from 2013 (or from 2016) you can press alt+f (file menu), then i (info tab), then i (inspect document) then down arrow to check accessibility.  This opens the check accessibility task pane but unfortunately puts the focus back in your document so you need to press F6.  This shows any accessibility issues, so if you down arrow through the details it will say "Warning" then "objects not inline", then "text box 2" (not sure why, they all seem to be called text box 2?).  Press enter on that text box and press SHIFT+F6 to jump back to your document with the text box selected (this works the same as the previous method of adding a new text box but without changing your document.  It is more cumbersome though, I'll not deny that!).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
Hi all,

How do I access the contents of text boxes in Microsoft Word? In jaws, I could
get a list of objects in a word document and access them that way. NVDA as far
as I know does not support this yet. I need this at work because some of my job
related documents have text boxes in them.
Note:
At work, I am using Word 2013 but this query is Word version agnostic.
Pranav







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Accessing text boxes in Microsoft Word

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

How do I access the contents of text boxes in Microsoft Word? In jaws, I could
get a list of objects in a word document and access them that way. NVDA as far
as I know does not support this yet. I need this at work because some of my job
related documents have text boxes in them.
Note:
At work, I am using Word 2013 but this query is Word version agnostic.
Pranav


Re: NVDA not reading table in MSWord

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cearbhall,

Just replied to your message on the Win10 group.  I'll repost what I wrote there here just as it may be useful to anyone in this group not in that group, but I see it is a confidential document so that answers my question about sharing it with me.

It could be in Protected view if you're opening it from an email attachemnt.  By default Word shows those files in "Read mode" which is really annoying to navigate.  In the reply below I noted how to get around that if it is the issue.  Ok what follows is my original reply:

Re the strange Word template, if the document isn't too sensitive and you can send it to me privately I'd be happy to have a look - it might be something we can work on addressing.

As you've found with other files, NVDA's table commands SHOULD work on tables in Word.  As an intermediate workaround, possibly converting the document to HTML would enable it to be read as a web page.  If you go to File, Save As and from the filename field, press TAB to move to the "save as type" drop down and choose "Web page (*.htm, *.html)".

The HTML Word creates is ugly and bloated, but for reading it on a local machine, it might work.

When you open files from e-mail or the web, by default Word will open them in "reading view" which is possible to read but works very differently  (I wrote a section on it in the Word training material we'll be releasing in the next couple of months).  What I would recommend, is if you go into the Word options (alt+f then t), on that first, general page, tab to an option called "Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view", and uncheck that - If you open a file from an email attachment etc then, it will open in the regular print layout so you can navigate as normal.  It will still be protected, so you'll need to press F6 to go to the "Protected view grouping" and press the "enable editing" button if you trust the sender and want to enable editing.

When you open any of the Office 2016 programs, instead of opening to a blank document / spreadsheet etc, it opens to the start screen.  You can either press ENTER to open a blank document, or you can navigate around to recent files or templates.  If you want to go back to the old style of opening directly to a blank file, go into the settings again and on that general page, the option after the one about opening email attachments is "show the start screen when this application starts" which you'll want to uncheck.

These options only apply to the current program so you'll need to uncheck it in Excel and any other Office programs you use too.

Re opening recent documents from the file list - Do you mean when you press alt+f you can press up arrow and find them listed at the bottom near exit?  You actually can do that:  Back in the options, this time control+tab down to "advanced", then tab a heap of times, or press alt+q to jump straight to "Quickly access this number of recent documents".  Once you check that option, you can tab to the next edit field which has a number (4 by default) and set that to whatever you like.

What that does, is visually, it puts the recent files at the bottom of the file menu, although if you press up arrow or shift+tab it actually starts moving around the file info tab, so instead you need to press either a number (1 for the most recent, 2 for the next most recent etc), or down arrow to the list.  Interestingly once you start down arrowing and get to the "new" tab, you could then up arrow twice to get to the last recent file in the list, but I haven't found a more direct way (if anyone does, please let me know!).

Note: most of this will be in the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" material, available in the next couple of months.  It is designed as a follow up to the "Basic Training for NVDA" module which is available now: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:06 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Chris,

 

Yes, I have found that that is the most efficient way to get around the problem. NVDA reads the tables in adobe perfectly with the read cell commands. However, it cannot set row and column headers as that command does not appear to be available in Adobe.

 

All the best,

 

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Re: NVDA and office 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cearbhall,

Re the strange Word template, if the document isn't too sensitive and you can send it to me privately I'd be happy to have a look - it might be something we can work on addressing.

As you've found with other files, NVDA's table commands SHOULD work on tables in Word.  As an intermediate workaround, possibly converting the document to HTML would enable it to be read as a web page.  If you go to File, Save As and from the filename field, press TAB to move to the "save as type" drop down and choose "Web page (*.htm, *.html)".

The HTML Word creates is ugly and bloated, but for reading it on a local machine, it might work.

When you open files from e-mail or the web, by default Word will open them in "reading view" which is possible to read but works very differently  (I wrote a section on it in the Word training material we'll be releasing in the next couple of months).  What I would recommend, is if you go into the Word options (alt+f then t), on that first, general page, tab to an option called "Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view", and uncheck that - If you open a file from an email attachment etc then, it will open in the regular print layout so you can navigate as normal.  It will still be protected, so you'll need to press F6 to go to the "Protected view grouping" and press the "enable editing" button if you trust the sender and want to enable editing.

When you open any of the Office 2016 programs, instead of opening to a blank document / spreadsheet etc, it opens to the start screen.  You can either press ENTER to open a blank document, or you can navigate around to recent files or templates.  If you want to go back to the old style of opening directly to a blank file, go into the settings again and on that general page, the option after the one about opening email attachments is "show the start screen when this application starts" which you'll want to uncheck.

These options only apply to the current program so you'll need to uncheck it in Excel and any other Office programs you use too.

Re opening recent documents from the file list - Do you mean when you press alt+f you can press up arrow and find them listed at the bottom near exit?  You actually can do that:  Back in the options, this time control+tab down to "advanced", then tab a heap of times, or press alt+q to jump straight to "Quickly access this number of recent documents".  Once you check that option, you can tab to the next edit field which has a number (4 by default) and set that to whatever you like.

What that does, is visually, it puts the recent files at the bottom of the file menu, although if you press up arrow or shift+tab it actually starts moving around the file info tab, so instead you need to press either a number (1 for the most recent, 2 for the next most recent etc), or down arrow to the list.  Interestingly once you start down arrowing and get to the "new" tab, you could then up arrow twice to get to the last recent file in the list, but I haven't found a more direct way (if anyone does, please let me know!).

Note: most of this will be in the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" material, available in the next couple of months.  It is designed as a follow up to the "Basic Training for NVDA" module which is available now: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Further to my earlier message, I have tried this in both browse mode and Focus mode in NVDA with no luck.

 

It seems that the table in question was generated from a standard template issued by a government department and inserted into the current document. The document author then had to fill in the relevant variable data into the template. To do so, he had to make a left mouse click on the cell in order to open  it in edit mode. This author is sighted by the way. I think it relevant to mention his access method and source of the table since it turned out to be somewhat inaccessible.

 

I have found NVDA well able to read other tables in Word 2016 files as I studied more documents later today.

 

The Word problem seems to have been a particular issue relating to a custom made template that did not appear to conform to default Word methods of construction.

 

I am still puzzled by Excel 2016! When I highlight an excel workbook in my documents and press enter on it, I expect it to open in excel and display its contents. However, in Excel 2016, when I press enter on the file after unblocking it, Excel opens and NVDA can see nothing. A “Say all” command revealed a page of choices of different worksheet types that could be launched but no sign of my worksheet. There was one option which invited me to open  without specifying a particular type of worksheet. I press that but still nothing appeared. On going to the File ribbon, I discovered the name of my would-be worksheet listed in the “Recents” list. When I pressed that item in the Recents list, the worksheet opened! I was then able to read it. I cannot see any way to open the worksheet from a file list as I used to with excel 2010. Has anyone any advice on this?

 

All the best,

 

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Re: NVDA and office 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Further to my earlier message, I have tried this in both browse mode and Focus mode in NVDA with no luck.

 

It seems that the table in question was generated from a standard template issued by a government department and inserted into the current document. The document author then had to fill in the relevant variable data into the template. To do so, he had to make a left mouse click on the cell in order to open  it in edit mode. This author is sighted by the way. I think it relevant to mention his access method and source of the table since it turned out to be somewhat inaccessible.

 

I have found NVDA well able to read other tables in Word 2016 files as I studied more documents later today.

 

The Word problem seems to have been a particular issue relating to a custom made template that did not appear to conform to default Word methods of construction.

 

I am still puzzled by Excel 2016! When I highlight an excel workbook in my documents and press enter on it, I expect it to open in excel and display its contents. However, in Excel 2016, when I press enter on the file after unblocking it, Excel opens and NVDA can see nothing. A “Say all” command revealed a page of choices of different worksheet types that could be launched but no sign of my worksheet. There was one option which invited me to open  without specifying a particular type of worksheet. I press that but still nothing appeared. On going to the File ribbon, I discovered the name of my would-be worksheet listed in the “Recents” list. When I pressed that item in the Recents list, the worksheet opened! I was then able to read it. I cannot see any way to open the worksheet from a file list as I used to with excel 2010. Has anyone any advice on this?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: NVDA not reading table in MSWord

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Chris,

 

Yes, I have found that that is the most efficient way to get around the problem. NVDA reads the tables in adobe perfectly with the read cell commands. However, it cannot set row and column headers as that command does not appear to be available in Adobe.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: jeffs nvda add on page

 

Well from what I read on pg13 the site may have been hacked but its completely purged nothing is logged either and no one is the wiser of exactly what was breached.
They can't even confirm it was a hack there is litterally nothing to go on.

On 22/07/2016 6:40 a.m., Gene wrote:
It appears that Jeff's site will be back at some point. Whether it is or not, you might be able to download the add ons from whatever site you find them on by using save target as or equivalent. It is important to save anything you download from the Internet if you can, that is a program or an add on. There is no guarantee they will be available in the future at all or when you want them.

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From: Bobby
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] jeffs nvda add on page


Well Josh I don't want any voices I would like the bit torrent sink add
on and the clip copy add on and I would like the audio cable add on.
Every web page that jeff had is down. I want the add ons because I had
to reinstall nvda 5 weeks ago. Talk to you all soon.




Re: jeffs nvda add on page

Gene
 

It appears that Jeff's site will be back at some point.  Whether it is or not, you might be able to download the add ons from whatever site you find them on by using save target as or equivalent.  It is important to save anything you download from the Internet if you can, that is a program or an add on.  There is no guarantee they will be available in the future at all or when you want them.
 
Gene

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bobby
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] jeffs nvda add on page

Well Josh I don't want any voices I would like the bit torrent sink add
on and the clip copy add on and I would like the audio cable add on. 
Every web page that jeff had is down.  I want the add ons because I had
to reinstall nvda 5 weeks ago.  Talk to you all soon.




jeffs nvda add on page

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Well Josh I don't want any voices I would like the bit torrent sink add on and the clip copy add on and I would like the audio cable add on. Every web page that jeff had is down. I want the add ons because I had to reinstall nvda 5 weeks ago. Talk to you all soon.


NVDA and office 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi Lanie et al,

 

Lanie recently reported that there were no problems in accessing Office 2016 by NVDA 2016.2.

 

Today I hit quite a few problems that I have not experienced with Office 2010.  I have just installed Office 2016 and I have still to understand fully how to use it. However, I have a number of documents that I must read for a board meeting next Wednesday. Some of these are in word form having been created in Word 2010. I could read them fine in Word 2016 until I came to a set of tables that are made up of four columns and 13 rows. The NVDA reading commands did not work at all in the tables. I then saved them to a text file with a view to seeing if the tables are tab delimited but I cannot see that in Notepad. So, will have to use Notepad++ to check that out. I then highlighted the entire word document and copied it to the clipboard for pasting into a new Excel worksheet. This time the text was all confined to column A but the tables were set out perfectly. Excel allows one to move from cell to cell using the arrow keys.

 

Finally, I asked the author of the original word 2010 document save the file as a .pdf file. This was the most readable form. The NVDA table reading commands worked fine for moving from cell to cell. The only problem there was that the column headings command was not available. I could not then set NVDA to call out the column or row headings as   I traversed the tables in the .pdf file.

 

Another major complication occurred with the fact that all the files were in protected view due to their having arrived as attachments. I made the mistake of opening one of the Word files without turning off the protected mode setting in the properties of the file. This caused Word to go berserk! NVDA froze, Windows froze and I had to force a reboot! Then the PC took ages to come back up and even longer to let me through the initial logon screen.

 

I have much to learn!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: NVDA not reading table in MSWord

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I have heard many people complaining of accessibility issues with Office 2016.  I have the same NVDA version and Operating system as you and can read tables in Office 2007 Word documents perfectly using the keystrokes you mentioned.  Could you perhaps save the Word document as a pdf file and read it using acrobat?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: 21 July 2016 17:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not reading table in MSWord

 

Sanity check, are you in browse mode? "ALT-space

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 21, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I am attempting to read an annual audit report in MS Word 2016 using NVDA 2016.2 and windows 10. I can read the document from top to bottom with “say all”. However, although I can jump to a table of financial figures in browse mode using the letter “t”, I cannot move through the table in the usual way with control+alt+arrows. How can I find out what is wrong with the word document that is preventing me from reading the table?

 

As this is a confidential draft document, I cannot share it with you until it is published. Meanwhile, I have to read it before next Wednesday!

 

Incidentally, I copied the entire contetnts of the Word file to the clipboard and pasted it into a fresh Excel 2016 file. The tables were set out perfectly and I could arrow from cell to cell in the usual Excel way.

 

Question is: If the tables are so correct that NVDA says “table 3rows and 4 columns” or some such, I would assume that the table is correctly constructed. How, then, is it that NVDA cannot read the cells  with control+alt+arrows? I can read through the row using control+right or left arrow but this is only moving from word to word. The column number is then reported and the right edge of the cell is reported as “Carriage return” There is no indication of a tab character.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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