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Re: Question About Copying Text

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Lanie Molinar wrote:

I just tested it out, and it doesn't work. After I select the text using NVDA, i use NVDA+F2 to pass the next key through and then try to copy the text.
Nothing gets copied though. I'm guessing this is because NVDA overrides the selection process, so when I try to copy, the computer acts like nothing is
selected.
True. I was suggesting using the bypass command with the selection commands as well. You selected the text using NVDA, which is known not to work.

I was mainly asking to find out if it worked, as someone had suggested it on github recently.

The answer is: it does. Specifically:

Move to where you want to start copying from, approximately. Brian's search method might work best for this.
Next, press NVDA+F2.
Then, use shift+arrow keys to select text. Note, that as long as you keep shift pressed, you don't have to press the bypass key again.
Last, when you're done selecting, press NVDA+F2, then Control+C to copy.

Lots of key pressing, but it's an option.

Luke


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:57 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
After I select the text using NVDA,
And therein lies the issue.  What I was trying to communicate earlier is that you cannot use NVDA itself to do the actual selection.

Personally, I think it makes a lot more sense to keep NVDA running, use CTRL+A to select all, and paste the whole shebang into MS-Word or similar and do your actual searching for the material you actually want to save in the word processor.  Yes, it's a workaround, but it's not very labor intensive to dig through that text in the word processor and, in fact, I'd say it's less so.

It's very handy that select all, CTRL+A, still works on a webpage just like it does when a screen reader running as it does when it's not.  There is no need for any pass-through gyrations.
 
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Re: Question About Copying Text

 

I just tested it out, and it doesn't work. After I select the text using NVDA, i use NVDA+F2 to pass the next key through and then try to copy the text. Nothing gets copied though. I'm guessing this is because NVDA overrides the selection process, so when I try to copy, the computer acts like nothing is selected.

On 10/1/2019 8:50 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 08:11 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
can you do the same thing by using the keyboard bypass command before (each of) your other commands?
I don't know, as I was doing "quick and dirty" experimentation.  I would imagine that pass through would work.  Others here will likely have more opportunity in the very short term to check that than I will.
 
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Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

 

my favorite version of nvda is 2017
and i havve no issue when using any version of browsers from older
versions to newer ones that work with xp.
not sure about newer versions of nvda and browsers, but i believe that
nvda should be very responsive in browsers regardless of there
versions.

On 10/2/19, Dennis Clark <dennis@dgclark.net> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent
user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the
most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not
work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of
Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also,
are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks
in advance for your assistance.
Dennis




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from the husk of a grain of barley,
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Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

 

The latest Google Chrome is  77.0.3865.90

The latest Brave is Version 0.68.142 Chromium: 77.0.3865.90

The latest Edge Dev is Build 79.0.287.2

I haven't had any issues with NVDA when I've been using it with any of these or Firefox 69.0.1
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Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Dennis


What do you mean by not working well.


I have a few different browsers on this computer plus the 2 you mention chrome and fie fire fox plus the new edge chromium based version.


I do have a list of browsers that work with nvda up on my website under nvda road test programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

On the road tested page jump down to a heading called browsers and it will also note if not compatible


Is nvda not reading the contents of the web page or what is actually happening so we can help.


Gene nz

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On 2/10/2019 1:00 PM, Dennis Clark wrote:
Hello  Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also, are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dennis




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To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

Lino Morales
 

Dennis. What version of Firefox do you have installed currently? The current version is 69.0.1. I don't use Chrome so someone else would have to answer that one. What seems tonnot work?

On 10/1/2019 8:00 PM, Dennis Clark wrote:
Hello Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also, are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dennis



Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

Dennis Clark
 

Hello Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also, are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dennis


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 08:11 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
can you do the same thing by using the keyboard bypass command before (each of) your other commands?
I don't know, as I was doing "quick and dirty" experimentation.  I would imagine that pass through would work.  Others here will likely have more opportunity in the very short term to check that than I will.
 
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Re: Zoom with nvda

 

www.zoom.us is the site you should start with.





On 10/1/2019 4:53 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


I went to there you tube channel from off the website of theres and I could only find it for the zoom magnifier not the zoom conferencing software. Maybe I missed it.


I think I will also sign up later on today or tomorrow for a free account then do it from the side of it been hosted the basics and lay out etc when I got it worked out.


Also will check out training material from the zoom website etc which I have been doing.


I will do it more on the audio side not all the other stuff I think I will point to videos for that.


Would I have any takers who would like to read the tutorial after it has been typed up especially those who have done it from both sides? to make sure it is right before posting to the website of mine for others to use or follow.

If so I can contact you off list for that or the other way around.


Gene nz


Gene nz




On 2/10/2019 7:02 AM, Samuel Villa wrote:

Hey.

This may be off topic, but on the Freedom Scientific YouTube channel, there is an instructional video on how to use Zoom with JAWS.

Let me know if this was helpful.

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To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: issue with secure banking site

Luke Davis
 

Were either NVDA or Chrome versions different when this was working?

Can you explain more about what exactly is being read?

Luke

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Don H wrote:

Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2 and latest version of Google chrome.
Up until today I could go to my brokers web site and see all my investments by using the arrow keys.
Today the information is on screen as verfied by sighted help but instead of reading the info NVDA announces
hidden column details
Any clue as what is going on?


Re: Question About Copying Text

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

reader on and using the standard web browser find, not the screen reader find, to get yourself to the first word or phrase from which you wish to begin
selecting, turning off the screen reader, and using keyboard commands to select and copy the text before turning the screen reader on again. 
Without turning the screen reader off, can you do the same thing by using the keyboard bypass command before (each of) your other commands? In NVDA's case, the bypass command is NVDA+F2.

Luke


Re: In-Process 1st October

Quentin Christensen
 

You are right, and I don't usually worry about inserting the date for the same reason - I'm not sure if there is an easy way for the shop products, but I'll have a look.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:56 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

Thanks! I don't usually edit blog posts or otherwise after I create them, but maybe it would be best to remove that text completely and just let wordpress tell the shopper when it was last updated. I haven't looked at any of the other items but that may be a good idea?



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Re: In-Process 1st October

 

Thanks! I don't usually edit blog posts or otherwise after I create them, but maybe it would be best to remove that text completely and just let wordpress tell the shopper when it was last updated. I haven't looked at any of the other items but that may be a good idea?


Re: So what will happen to my favorite add-ons in the future: September 2019 update

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I have had confirmation from Code Factory that they have a working version for 2019.3 and will release it around when we are getting ready to release 2019.3.  So yes, you will be able to use Eloquence (and Vocalizer) for NVDA 2019.3!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:27 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
Will the Eloquence synthesizer ad-ons be compatible with NVDA 2019.3?

On 9/18/19, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi NVDA users,
>
>
>
> At least I'm back in action (slightly reduced workload, but working on NVDA
> coding here and there) and some news to share with you regarding what will
> happen to your favorite add-ons in the future.
>
>
>
> First, a bit of a background for people who don't know what I'm talking
> about:
>
>
>
> This past summer (winter for some), I and other NVDA developers worked on
> preparing NVDA for the future. Specifically, with the impending end of life
> of Python 2 (the original language NVDA is coded in), the developers felt
> it
> is time to shift gears and move onto a more modern way of providing equal
> access to technology: Python 3. In addition to some exciting enhancements,
> it brought many changes under the hood that will make NVDA a viable option
> for all of you in the long term, including some performance enhancements,
> smooth internationalization, and much more.
>
>
>
> One of the questions we received in recent weeks has been about your
> favorite add-ons and the upcoming NVDA 2019.3, the first version to be
> powered by Python 3. Although there were initial bumps, I'm delighted to
> announce that majority of add-ons that you know and love will work with
> NVDA
> 2019.3. Take a look at the following items:
>
>
>
> *     63 percent of add-ons hosted on community add-ons website
> (addons.nvda-project.org) are compatible with NVDA 2019.3.
> *     Several authors have indicated plans to introduce Python 3 support
> to their add-ons soon, and others are working hard on porting their add-ons
> to make them future-proof.
> *     Notable add-on developers, including makers of Vocalizer series and
> DictationBridge, have committed to releasing Python 3 compatible versions
> of
> their add-ons in the future. In case of Vocalizer series, an alpha version
> of old Vocalizer Direct (2.x) is being tested, and a public beta of Python
> 3
> compatible DictationBridge is scheduled to be released shortly after NVDA
> 2019.3 beta 1 is released.
>
>
>
> The add-ons community expects more add-ons to join the ranks of
> future-proof
> add-ons as NVDA 2019.3 release approaches. Until then.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: issue with secure banking site

 

If it's Fidelity investments it would be best to navigate those tables and otherwise and forms mode, and save browse mode for when you want to go to the different account tabs and such. Otherwise, have no clue what bank you deal with, so have no clue what you're talking about.


Re: Virtual Viewer

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thanks bryan
 

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See the official download page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

The "Usage" section is very brief, but it's a starting point, and probably all that anyone familiar with the functionality from another screen reader needs.

I believe there is a lot of discussion going on about documentation for Add-Ons, and I am hoping that, at the very least, some sort of "Quick Start Guide" will become required.  There are a number of them that I have no idea how one does anything beyond installing them.   I don't expect a multi-chapter user guide, but something would be nice.

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Re: In-Process 1st October

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Robert,

My apologies, that was an omission on my part - we updated the material itself, I just didn't change the date on the shop page.  I've done that now (for both Audio and Braille).  If you go to https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/downloads/ you can download all the material you have purchased, and the audio version will be the latest one.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:56 PM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

2 things. I still see the NVDA getting started audio from 2017 up in the store. Also, if we bought the first getting started audio how do we get the new, upgraded, version?



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issue with secure banking site

Don H
 

Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2 and latest version of Google chrome.
Up until today I could go to my brokers web site and see all my investments by using the arrow keys.
Today the information is on screen as verfied by sighted help but instead of reading the info NVDA announces
hidden column details
Any clue as what is going on?


Re: Virtual Viewer

DJ
 

Brian, thank you for expressing that concern. I also believe that many users would benefit greatly from this implementation. Different people come with different skill levels. Have a great day.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:32 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
See the official download page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

The "Usage" section is very brief, but it's a starting point, and probably all that anyone familiar with the functionality from another screen reader needs.

I believe there is a lot of discussion going on about documentation for Add-Ons, and I am hoping that, at the very least, some sort of "Quick Start Guide" will become required.  There are a number of them that I have no idea how one does anything beyond installing them.   I don't expect a multi-chapter user guide, but something would be nice.

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The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide