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Re: Say All insists on using Windows onecore voices. How do I fix this?

Doug Lawlor
 

I've got this fixed. It looks like the say all command was triggering my reading profile. Resetting the trigger to trigger the normal configuration fixed it. 


Doug


Re: Virtual Viewer

Jonathan COHN
 

Well, virtual viewer is a pretty generic term in JAWS, it is one of three methods that JAWS programmers can use to present additional or supplemental information to the JAWS user. From your description, there is the "virtual cursor" toggle in JAWS (insert-Z) which in words allows you to do single letter navigation to spelling errors, foot notes, headings, links and other special items. This is similar to "Browse mode" in NVDA which can be toggled with insert-space. Others can provide more details of what signle key navigation is available in this mode in NVDA.
Jonathan

On 10/1/19, 2:14 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelby carlson" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there anything like the virtual viewer in JAWS that NVDA has? It
would be amazing to be able to easily bring up a list of footnotes in
Word.

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Re: Problems with NVDA and Adobe Digital Editions on Windows 10

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, not a problem happy to help others, I have had loads of help over the years, so if I can give a little back.

On 03/10/2019 04:34, Richard Wells wrote:
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing!
On 10/2/2019 3:30 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, there is a new kid on the block,   it is called bookworm,   sorry
do not have a web site for it at the moment but stand buy and I will
see if I can get something. OK below is the website.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/

On 02/10/2019 16:25, George Kerscher wrote:
Hello,

At epubtest.org, we test many, many EPUB reading Apps, including
Adobe Digital Editions. We have noted the instability of that
software on Windows. We have reported it to Adobe, but have not seen
any fixes. I suggest finding other software to read EPUB files.

The reviews of the Apps are at:
https://inclusivepublishing.org/news-and-events/news/reading-system-accessibility-roundup-updated/


Also always happy to have more volunteers for testing at epubtest.org

Best
George

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annukka
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and Adobe Digital Editions on
Windows 10

Hi everyone.

I read e-books on Windows 10 with NVDA. Adobe Digital Editions work
good Windows 7 and newest NVDA version, but on Windows 10 reading
ends after short time and I need to restart programs again and try to
find right page. NVDA stop speech totally. Windows 7 thereäs nothing
like this and I use other computer with it when I want to read e-books.

Does none know some kind of NVDA or Adobe Digital Editions settings
that I need to change to get read better?

I'm new member this list.

Sorry for my bad English.

Best Regards

Annukka








Say All insists on using Windows onecore voices. How do I fix this?

Doug Lawlor
 

Hello all, 

NVDA is insisting on using Windows onecore voices when the say all command is issued. I am looking through all of the settings I can find and I'll be damned if I can find the correct setting to tell it to use my default synthesizer. Where is the command to turn this off? This is truly driving me nuts!. 

Thanks, 

Doug


Re: firefox

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

I honestly believe that the Firefox menu button was an afterthought, as they never have removed the conventional menu system from Firefox, just had it
That certainly looks like the case. Maybe trying to emulate Chrome a bit, without removing the preferred methods.

It is interesting to see that page that confirms the only thing I'd been able to find by
noodling around and after web searching left me high and dry as far as any keyboard shortcut for the function of getting to the Firefox open menu button.
First Google result for (including the quotes):

"access the firefox menu by keyboard"

Luke


Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions. I remember that I once received a small "patch"(?) one of the programmers for the screen reader wrote for me, allowing me to quickly switch between 6- and 8-dot Braille, English vs. German Grade II without having to exit the text(s). So, yes, I could have two different texts displayed side-by-side on two separate windows and read them in either language. If I so chose, I could save the contracted Braille versions, but I often did not. I find reading in Grade II/UEB faster than Grade I. Moreover, italics, boldface, etc., were clearly marked as such based on the original text on the computer screen.

I will look into the suggestions, try to set up the profiles, acquaint myself with the add-on, and report back to you soon.

Best,
Cordelia


Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hello,

You are raising a very important question. I would greatly welcome seeing such characteristics displayed in Braille, which are commonly used in scientific writings for, e.g., book titles that get italicized. The screen readers I have been using to this day use dots 7, 8, or 7+8 or can be made to "blink". I realize that NVDA's original purpose was to make text audible; yet it would be a plus to have such elements also available as a second option--especially for those of us who primarily depend on a Braille display.

Best wishes,
Cordelia


Re: Braille Input Inaccuracy

David Csercsics
 

It happens with every braille display / screen reader combination I have tested. Braille input has never worked for me on any device. I'm not sure where the bug is, or maybe I just type too fast, but I always have to use a keyboard for input.


Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 01:14 PM, Henk Mulder wrote:
Make sure that you are in focus mode (NVDA+space), then you should be able to navigate the list.
This appears to have been the solution, but I'd really like to know why it was even necessary to switch to focus mode.   As NVDA is configured "out of the box" landing on controls, which cannot accept text input, should automatically throw you into focus mode.  I use Focus Highlight so I can actually see what mode NVDA is in and it is always in focus mode when I land on these controls.

I know that there is a setting that can turn "auto forms mode" off when you land in an edit box, so that focus mode must be manually turned off when you want to enter text, but if one does not go back to focus mode once one exits a text box, that truly is news to me, and makes no sense.  I have never turned "auto forms mode" off and am using NVDA in "out of the box" configuration other than in regard to the Add-Ons I've installed and the synth I've chosen to use.

What is actually going on here?
 
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Braille Input Inaccuracy

Michael Forzano
 

Hi All,

I just received a Focus 40 display, and am noticing inaccuracies when
typing in contracted Braille using NVDA. This is particularly
noticeable when typing fast, or when using the Export function to
export a document from the scratchpad. I have found that characters in
the input are sometimes skipped. For example, when typing the word
"me", onl the letter "e" was entered, and it was then back-translated
to the word "every". There seems to be no consistency in this
behavior, but it does happen quite a bit.

Has anyone experienced this? Is the NVDA team aware of this issue?

Thanks,
Mike


Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

David Csercsics
 

I don't think so. I've never seen any useful formatting indicators in braille with NVDA, but you could play with the document formatting options. I haven't done that. But in PDF's and other places where I know that there should be formatting changes, all NVDA displays is some weird symbols which are transcriber-assigned indicators according to UEB. So  I think this might be LibLouis bugs I'm not sure.


hiding the invisible window

Ján Kulik
 

Hi to Every One,
 
Is there a way to hide the invisible window? NVDA sees it and can't close the window. In my opinion, this problem could be solved because I see this pop-up window often. It is a New Announcement window, and this invisible window cannot be closed, so to do this, I have to press a combination like Win + A, which I already see the Action Center and ESC or I close it again.


Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

kelby carlson
 

Sorry for the terrible errors; braille input on my phone was not
working correctly.

On 10/3/19, kelby carlson via Groups.Io
<kelbycarlson=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Is there a way for NVDA to dispbbay formatting in a document such as italic
and bold on a connected ,R; Display?




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Re: Firefox options

Don H
 

Thanks that is the solution. Appreciate your help.

On 10/3/2019 12:14 PM, Henk Mulder wrote:
Make sure that you are in focus mode (NVDA+space), then you should be able to navigate the list.
I can also see part of the list when I'm in browse mode, but maybe the entries are hidden/ scrolled out of view when you are working in a small window.
On 10/3/2019 6:44 PM, Don H wrote:
When I do as you described I hear list general and can not move to the other categories in the list or what ever it is.

On 10/3/2019 11:24 AM, Henk Mulder wrote:
If you open the options you are in the search field. Press shift+tab 3 times to get in a list with the tabs that you mention. Select the tab you want using the arrow keys and use tab to navigate through the options.

Best,
Henk

On 10/3/2019 5:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2.1 and latest firefox.
If you go to the options menu which is under the tools tab you get a screen with what I guess is tabs for General, Home, Search, Privacy and security and sync.  These are on the left side of the screen. On the right side of the screen are the various settings for each of the tabs on the left side of the screen.
NVDA reads the right side of the screen but will not allow you to get to the different tabs on the left side of the screen. How do you get to the options on the left side of the screen?
Thanks










Re: Someone knows a program that integrates Facebook accessible?

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

While I don't think I really understand your question, Facebook is accessible with NVDA. The best way to use Facebook is to navigate to the site and use it in focus mode, with the keyboard shortcuts that Facebook provides. I do not use Facebook and have not in a few years, but I believe that pressing ? (question mark) should present a list of keyboard shortcuts. If it does not, then google Facebook keyboard shortcuts.

Blind people have typically stuck to using the mobile site of everything. I don't know if this is because of comfort, lack of training or knowledge, laziness and unwillingness to learn something new, or because working with web apps is truly difficult, but web apps have gotten more and more accessible and usable, and are often much more productive than the mobile version of anything. Take Gmail for example. I can navigate to Gmail, traverse the email list with my arrow keys, press enter on a message, press n to move between messages in the thread and have them read out, press r to reply, press ctrl+enter to send, press c to compose a new message, etc etc. On Twitter, I can use keyboard shortcuts to move between tweets, reply to a tweet, retweet, like, etc. Accomplishing these tasks is often much more efficient than had I chosen to use the mobile version. Yes, this takes learning keyboard shortcuts, and yes, it is different than everything you may have been taught, but to characterize these interfaces as not being accessible I think is wrong and does the community a disservice.

Thanks.

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:27 AM Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi everybody,

Someone knows a program that integrates Facebook accessible.

I do not wish Use the facebook page for mobiles.


Thank you.

Cheers.

Rémy






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Formatting on a Braille Display

kelby carlson
 
Edited

Is there a way for NVDA to display formatting in a document such as italic and bold on a connected ,R; Display?


Re: Firefox options

Don H
 

My screen is maximized.
Another finding is I switched from NVDA to Narrator to see if it was any better. Every time with Narrator running if I open the options menu Firefox crashes. Tried it 6 times and it crashes every time.

On 10/3/2019 12:22 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 01:14 PM, Henk Mulder wrote:
maybe the entries are hidden/ scrolled out of view when you are
working in a small window.
This is something I seldom think about but that I know can be true. Maximizing the window is something I presume will be the first order of business, but that's not a safe presumption to make.  If that hasn't been tried, it should be.
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           ~ André Gide


Someone knows a program that integrates Facebook accessible?

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi everybody,

Someone knows a program that integrates Facebook accessible.

I do not wish Use the facebook page for mobiles.


Thank you.

Cheers.

Rémy


Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 01:14 PM, Henk Mulder wrote:
maybe the entries are hidden/ scrolled out of view when you are working in a small window.
This is something I seldom think about but that I know can be true.  Maximizing the window is something I presume will be the first order of business, but that's not a safe presumption to make.  If that hasn't been tried, it should be.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 01:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Once you are on List general up and down arrows does not take me through the list.
And, I've already stated that means you have a problem and how to address it.  If you won't address it, no one can help you.  This is not normal behavior, and there are clear and specific steps, generally uninstalling and reinstalling, to take care of those.

If the issue is based in your Firefox profile, which I hope it isn't, then there's a whole other layer that might come next.
 
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The color of truth is grey.

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