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Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Kerryn Gunness
 

sile

1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box
2. tab once to a combo box with options
3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones
4 tab to ok button and press enter

NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

you're done

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Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device


Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile




Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 

P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version 2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile




Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 

Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile


Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Quentin Christensen
 

And to complete my own thought there - you can create profiles which are "manually activated" and not linked to a program.  You can then use NVDA's Input Gestures dialog to set keystrokes for each, so then you could create a profile for each Braille table and use keystrokes to switch between them.


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:16 AM Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:
If you want to use the different tables in different programs, you can setup configuration profiles for each program and specify the Braille table to use in each program.  Open a program you want to create a profile for, press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog, press ALT+N for new, tab to "Use this profile for" and then right arrow to "Current program" and press ENTER. Now anything you change in NVDA's settings (except the general settings which apply across the board) are saved in that profile.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:42 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia



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Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 06:08 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Before giving that advice, please recommend running the COM Registration Fixing Tool (NVDA -> Tools menu). That can solve various "NVDA isn't reading what it should" problems.
Always willing to add another arrow to the quiver, particularly one that is lower on the "time and effort" scale.
 
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Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Quentin Christensen
 

If you want to use the different tables in different programs, you can setup configuration profiles for each program and specify the Braille table to use in each program.  Open a program you want to create a profile for, press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog, press ALT+N for new, tab to "Use this profile for" and then right arrow to "Current program" and press ENTER. Now anything you change in NVDA's settings (except the general settings which apply across the board) are saved in that profile.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:42 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Firefox options

Arlene
 

Luke, Is this with windows ten?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 3, 2019 3:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox options

 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Don H wrote:

 

> Another finding is I switched from NVDA to Narrator to see if it was any

> better.  Every time with Narrator running if I open the options menu Firefox

> crashes.  Tried it 6 times and it crashes every time.

 

While I have no problem with NVDA and Firefox on this screen (using focus mode

in the options category list), with Narrator I get some very strange and lagful

behavior, before Narrator freezes up solid, and my processor (as evidenced by

fan speed) spikes to full burn until I kill firefox.

Fortunately, last year I made a keyboard shortcut that force-kills Firefox

whenever it goes out of control like that; otherwise it takes a long time to end

these runaway processes.

 

Something is definitely strange on that options screen. When NVDA reads the

open of that screen, the first thing it says is "unknown", which implies it

can't obtain focus. A tab fixes that, but it is indicative of the problem.

 

Luke

 

 

 


Re: Question About Copying Text

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, kelby carlson wrote:

I have tried this. However, when I press shift down arrow after
passing the key through, all I get is a "no selection" announcement
when I try to copy to the clipboard.
You have to pass the control+c through as well.

You will probably get no audio feedback, but the report text on clipboard command (NVDA+C) should confirm that it's there.

Luke


Re: Firefox options

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Don H wrote:

Another finding is I switched from NVDA to Narrator to see if it was any better. Every time with Narrator running if I open the options menu Firefox crashes. Tried it 6 times and it crashes every time.
While I have no problem with NVDA and Firefox on this screen (using focus mode in the options category list), with Narrator I get some very strange and lagful behavior, before Narrator freezes up solid, and my processor (as evidenced by fan speed) spikes to full burn until I kill firefox.
Fortunately, last year I made a keyboard shortcut that force-kills Firefox whenever it goes out of control like that; otherwise it takes a long time to end these runaway processes.

Something is definitely strange on that options screen. When NVDA reads the open of that screen, the first thing it says is "unknown", which implies it can't obtain focus. A tab fixes that, but it is indicative of the problem.

Luke


Re: Firefox options

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

If NVDA's not reading then I'd try either reinstalling NVDA, reinstalling Firefox, or both.
Before giving that advice, please recommend running the COM Registration Fixing Tool (NVDA -> Tools menu). That can solve various "NVDA isn't reading what it should" problems.

Luke


Re: NVDA on tablet with touchscreen only

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, it did go threw. I have to say that I didn't really rate the touch screen using nvda, now some of this would be my being used to using the keyboard. but I just couldn't get on with it. I found that even when I issued the correct command it often didn't work using surface pro.

On 03/10/2019 13:44, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,
Reposting this, not sure if it ever went through, I've not heard
anything back on it.
I remember a while back I think there was a podcast on NVDA and
tablet-interactions with touchscreens only. I'm going to be going on a
trip taking a tablet only. It does not have nor do I want to bring an
external bluetooth keyboard. I am wondering if anyone knows where that
podcast is on tablets. This is a surface pro something, it is running
win10.
Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Say All insists on using Windows onecore voices. How do I fix this?

Doug Lawlor
 

I've got this fixed. It looks like the say all command was triggering my reading profile. Resetting the trigger to trigger the normal configuration fixed it. 


Doug


Re: Virtual Viewer

Jonathan COHN
 

Well, virtual viewer is a pretty generic term in JAWS, it is one of three methods that JAWS programmers can use to present additional or supplemental information to the JAWS user. From your description, there is the "virtual cursor" toggle in JAWS (insert-Z) which in words allows you to do single letter navigation to spelling errors, foot notes, headings, links and other special items. This is similar to "Browse mode" in NVDA which can be toggled with insert-space. Others can provide more details of what signle key navigation is available in this mode in NVDA.
Jonathan

On 10/1/19, 2:14 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelby carlson" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelbycarlson@...> wrote:

Is there anything like the virtual viewer in JAWS that NVDA has? It
would be amazing to be able to easily bring up a list of footnotes in
Word.

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Kelby Carlson


Re: Problems with NVDA and Adobe Digital Editions on Windows 10

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, not a problem happy to help others, I have had loads of help over the years, so if I can give a little back.

On 03/10/2019 04:34, Richard Wells wrote:
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing!
On 10/2/2019 3:30 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, there is a new kid on the block,   it is called bookworm,   sorry
do not have a web site for it at the moment but stand buy and I will
see if I can get something. OK below is the website.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/

On 02/10/2019 16:25, George Kerscher wrote:
Hello,

At epubtest.org, we test many, many EPUB reading Apps, including
Adobe Digital Editions. We have noted the instability of that
software on Windows. We have reported it to Adobe, but have not seen
any fixes. I suggest finding other software to read EPUB files.

The reviews of the Apps are at:
https://inclusivepublishing.org/news-and-events/news/reading-system-accessibility-roundup-updated/


Also always happy to have more volunteers for testing at epubtest.org

Best
George

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annukka
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and Adobe Digital Editions on
Windows 10

Hi everyone.

I read e-books on Windows 10 with NVDA. Adobe Digital Editions work
good Windows 7 and newest NVDA version, but on Windows 10 reading
ends after short time and I need to restart programs again and try to
find right page. NVDA stop speech totally. Windows 7 thereäs nothing
like this and I use other computer with it when I want to read e-books.

Does none know some kind of NVDA or Adobe Digital Editions settings
that I need to change to get read better?

I'm new member this list.

Sorry for my bad English.

Best Regards

Annukka








Say All insists on using Windows onecore voices. How do I fix this?

Doug Lawlor
 

Hello all, 

NVDA is insisting on using Windows onecore voices when the say all command is issued. I am looking through all of the settings I can find and I'll be damned if I can find the correct setting to tell it to use my default synthesizer. Where is the command to turn this off? This is truly driving me nuts!. 

Thanks, 

Doug


Re: firefox

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

I honestly believe that the Firefox menu button was an afterthought, as they never have removed the conventional menu system from Firefox, just had it
That certainly looks like the case. Maybe trying to emulate Chrome a bit, without removing the preferred methods.

It is interesting to see that page that confirms the only thing I'd been able to find by
noodling around and after web searching left me high and dry as far as any keyboard shortcut for the function of getting to the Firefox open menu button.
First Google result for (including the quotes):

"access the firefox menu by keyboard"

Luke


Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions. I remember that I once received a small "patch"(?) one of the programmers for the screen reader wrote for me, allowing me to quickly switch between 6- and 8-dot Braille, English vs. German Grade II without having to exit the text(s). So, yes, I could have two different texts displayed side-by-side on two separate windows and read them in either language. If I so chose, I could save the contracted Braille versions, but I often did not. I find reading in Grade II/UEB faster than Grade I. Moreover, italics, boldface, etc., were clearly marked as such based on the original text on the computer screen.

I will look into the suggestions, try to set up the profiles, acquaint myself with the add-on, and report back to you soon.

Best,
Cordelia


Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hello,

You are raising a very important question. I would greatly welcome seeing such characteristics displayed in Braille, which are commonly used in scientific writings for, e.g., book titles that get italicized. The screen readers I have been using to this day use dots 7, 8, or 7+8 or can be made to "blink". I realize that NVDA's original purpose was to make text audible; yet it would be a plus to have such elements also available as a second option--especially for those of us who primarily depend on a Braille display.

Best wishes,
Cordelia


Re: Braille Input Inaccuracy

David Csercsics
 

It happens with every braille display / screen reader combination I have tested. Braille input has never worked for me on any device. I'm not sure where the bug is, or maybe I just type too fast, but I always have to use a keyboard for input.


Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 01:14 PM, Henk Mulder wrote:
Make sure that you are in focus mode (NVDA+space), then you should be able to navigate the list.
This appears to have been the solution, but I'd really like to know why it was even necessary to switch to focus mode.   As NVDA is configured "out of the box" landing on controls, which cannot accept text input, should automatically throw you into focus mode.  I use Focus Highlight so I can actually see what mode NVDA is in and it is always in focus mode when I land on these controls.

I know that there is a setting that can turn "auto forms mode" off when you land in an edit box, so that focus mode must be manually turned off when you want to enter text, but if one does not go back to focus mode once one exits a text box, that truly is news to me, and makes no sense.  I have never turned "auto forms mode" off and am using NVDA in "out of the box" configuration other than in regard to the Add-Ons I've installed and the synth I've chosen to use.

What is actually going on here?
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide