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Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

Damien Garwood
 

Hi Joseph,
I'll leave this one up to you. It does have a few bugs that I wouldn't know how to resolve, not knowing enough about the NVDA codebase and Windows API programming (perhaps one of the biggest being that sometimes seemingly at random, operations fail to work, with a close second being that it can easily interfere with applications which have a different purpose for the keys that Clipspeak uses). Based on this, if you still feel that the community has use for it, then anyone who likes may take up the reins.
Meantime, for me, I think I need to do a heck of a lot more reading and experimenting and private failing (yes Damien, note to self, private being the key word there), before I start trying to publish another addon, let alone update my existing ones. I feel like I've already let the community down as it is with my lousy attempts. I'm determined not to metaphorically flood the kitchen next time I wash up.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 06/10/2019 10:13 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Mostly having to do with add-on manifest issue. I'm willing to make it "compatible" but if and only if Damien gives the community permission to do so.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status
this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps. i suppose this
is because it is not compatible with python3 yet? Joseph or someone
else can answer.
On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
Well, Clipspeak
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still
downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it
remains there I presume it works. Things generally get removed if
they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.

Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group. In the
case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best
way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether
they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

*The color of truth is grey.*

~ André Gide


Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

molly the blind tech lover
 

I love clipspeak. It is extremely useful.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 5:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

 

I'm not saying that this problem will occur regarding this add-on, I don't think it will, but the possible situation should be discussed.

 

I saw Joseph's message about needing to obtain permission before making the add-on compatible.  This raises the question of providing, in some sort of agreement regarding add-ons, that under specified conditions an add-on will be considered to be in the public domain.  An add-on that is abandoned but not in the public domain is in danger of not being updated and becoming useless or significantly degraded as NVDA or the program it works with changes. 

 

Of course, the rights of those who provide add-ons for profit should be protected but it is, in my opinion, a serious violation of the spirit of NVDA that an add-on can be abandoned by its developer, and still not be able to be modified to keep it current.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 4:35 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

 

I just looked at the website listing the compatibility of add-ons with python 3.  It says clipspeak isn't compatible. Here's the link

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 5:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps.   i suppose this
is because it is not compatible with python3 yet?   Joseph or someone
else can answer.

On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
> Well, Clipspeak
> <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still
> downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page
> <https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it
> remains there I presume it works.  Things generally get removed if
> they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.
>
> Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group.  In the
> case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best
> way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether
> they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
> --
>
> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362
>
> *The color of truth is grey.*
>
>             ~ André Gide
>
>






locked Re: music production with NVDA

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 04:14 PM 10/5/2019, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
We are here to help one another, yes, however just like the franchise
I'm in they do not hand hold, not all the time. You are after week 2 on
your own. So yeah on the reaper list we will hold your hand and give
you the tools but after that we don't hand hold if you are asking basic
questions such as How do I go from track 1 to track two. We gave you the
tools, now use them.
It would be easier not to respond to such people with elementary questions than make them feel stupid for asking. We've talked about this on other lists and you just don't get it. Everyone knows they can Google something; responding to their requests telling them to Google contributes absolutely nothing; I wish you'd stop doing that.


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Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

Gene
 

I'm not saying that this problem will occur regarding this add-on, I don't think it will, but the possible situation should be discussed.
 
I saw Joseph's message about needing to obtain permission before making the add-on compatible.  This raises the question of providing, in some sort of agreement regarding add-ons, that under specified conditions an add-on will be considered to be in the public domain.  An add-on that is abandoned but not in the public domain is in danger of not being updated and becoming useless or significantly degraded as NVDA or the program it works with changes. 
 
Of course, the rights of those who provide add-ons for profit should be protected but it is, in my opinion, a serious violation of the spirit of NVDA that an add-on can be abandoned by its developer, and still not be able to be modified to keep it current.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

I just looked at the website listing the compatibility of add-ons with python 3.  It says clipspeak isn't compatible. Here's the link

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 5:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps.   i suppose this
is because it is not compatible with python3 yet?   Joseph or someone
else can answer.

On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
> Well, Clipspeak
> <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still
> downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page
> <https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it
> remains there I presume it works.  Things generally get removed if
> they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.
>
> Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group.  In the
> case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best
> way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether
> they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
> --
>
> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362
>
> *The color of truth is grey.*
>
>             ~ André Gide
>
>







Re: After Latest Stable Upgrade: NVDA does not start at system boot

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Kevin, everyone,

We've certainly seen reports of this from time to time, but as you note - it's difficult to track down - it doesn't always affect the same users, and for most users, the fix should be relatively simple (go into the general settings and check the checkbox again).

As I usually say - if you happen to have had your log set to debug when you updated and can send me the logs from around when you updated, I'm happy to have a look.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:22 AM Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I do not know about this version,   but I can tell you this has been
happening for quite a few versions of nvda and nothing seems to be
getting done about it. rather I might be better rewording a bit it might
be difficult to track down.   but the result is the same for a few
versions now this has been happening and it has been reported on and I
am sure off list to the nv-access people.

On 04/10/2019 16:40, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I updated NVDA to the latest build 2019.2.1 a few days ago.  I noticed
> when restarting the system, that NVDA would not start. Thinking that it
> was a glitch---a one time occurrence, I just started it with the hot
> key.  It happened again and again I used the hotkey to start NVDA.  I
> then checked the menu/settings/general and indeed found that the check
> box to start NVDA at start up was unchecked.  I checked it, restarted
> the system and now everything is fine.
>
> Did anyone else experience this with the latest build 2019.2.1?
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

molly the blind tech lover
 

I just looked at the website listing the compatibility of add-ons with python 3. It says clipspeak isn't compatible. Here's the link

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 5:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps. i suppose this
is because it is not compatible with python3 yet? Joseph or someone
else can answer.

On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
Well, Clipspeak
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still
downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it
remains there I presume it works. Things generally get removed if
they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.

Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group. In the
case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best
way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether
they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

*The color of truth is grey.*

~ André Gide


Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

Gene
 

I imagine it will be made compatible but unless new students are going to benefit somehow or work with features in the upcoming possibly incompatible version of NVDA, they may use the current version of NVDA.  I haven't followed what is in the new version but I suspect that for new students, it may not be important.
 
Gene

------ Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps.   i suppose this
is because it is not compatible with python3 yet?   Joseph or someone
else can answer.

On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
> Well, Clipspeak
> <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still
> downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page
> <https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it
> remains there I presume it works.  Things generally get removed if they
> become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.
>
> Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group.  In the
> case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best
> way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether
> they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
> --
>
> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362
>
> *The color of truth is grey.*
>
>             ~ André Gide
>
>



Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

 

Hi,
Mostly having to do with add-on manifest issue. I'm willing to make it "compatible" but if and only if Damien gives the community permission to do so.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps. i suppose this
is because it is not compatible with python3 yet? Joseph or someone
else can answer.

On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
Well, Clipspeak
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still
downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it
remains there I presume it works. Things generally get removed if
they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.

Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group. In the
case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best
way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether
they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

*The color of truth is grey.*

~ André Gide


Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

Kevin Cussick
 

this addon does not work with the latest alpha snaps. i suppose this is because it is not compatible with python3 yet? Joseph or someone else can answer.

On 06/10/2019 16:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
Well, Clipspeak <https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html> is still downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page <https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>, and so long as it remains there I presume it works.  Things generally get removed if they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.
Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group.  In the case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362
*The color of truth is grey.*
           ~ André Gide


Re: what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

molly the blind tech lover
 

Thanks ☺

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 11:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

it fixes broken or corrupted dll which are created after you uninstall some important program like microsoft office.

On 10/6/19, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
Hey everyone, Molly here ☺

I hope everyone is having a great weekend.

I am wondering, what is NVDA’s com registration fixing tool? I want
to learn as much as I can about NVDA, and I am curious as to what this
tool is and what it is used for. I looked through the NVDA user guide
before posting but I could not find info about it under the tools
section. Perhaps I missed something?

Looking forward to hearing from you guys ☺



Have a great weekend 😊





--
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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Downloading from YouTube

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks jene
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Downloading from YouTube

First, Are you a member of the chat group or of another general blindness technology discussion group?  Here is my e-mail address.
This topic may be closed at any time for being inappropriate for this list.  I'm giving you my address so you can continue talking with me but I'm just one person.  It would be a much better idea to be ready to transfer the discussion to another list.
 
Now, to your issues:
Which version are you using?  If version 3, unless you know how to look, the program will appear to do nothing. 
 
Do you know how to use Switch, for converting files?  I am not trying to discourage you from learning object navigation and you may find it useful in other contexts.  But if you are using version 3, your choices are to learn object navigation enough to use version 3, or to use version 2, and then use a program like Switch to convert the downloaded file to the format you want.  But at this point, we don't know if the program is working or not.
 
As far as posting the address, don't do it.  Have the address in the clipboard.  Then open the program.  If you tab around, you will see that the address is already in the program.  It automatically places the address in the clipboard in the field the program uses to tell it what page to go to.  I don't know what happens if you manually paste it, but that may be one reason the program isn't going to the page.  You may be placing a second copy of the address into the field, though I'd have to check the program to see.
 
Have the address in the clipboard before you open the program.  Do so by going the the actual Youtube page with what you want to play on it.  Press f6 to move to the address bar.  Copy the address to the clipboard with control c.  You don't need to select it first.  It is already automatically selected.
 
Close the browser if you wish. 
Open Pontes Media downloader.  If you tab around, you will see the address in the edit field.
Press the download button, or whatever it says, and see if the file is downloaded and converted.  Even if you don't know how to check at this point, if you are converting a song, wait for perhaps four or five minutes and look in the place where the file should be found. 
 
At this point, we have no way to know why you are having problems with different converters but following this procedure will help us determine if Pontes Media Converter is working properly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Downloading from YouTube

hi jene
 
i normally paste  the link in the program where it says edit
also i am not familiar with object navigation
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Downloading from YouTube

I don't know why.  Which version of the program are you using?  In version 3.x, it may appear that nothing happens but using object navigation shows if something is.  It is much easier for those not aquainted with object navigation in NVDA to use version 2x of the program because what is occurring is shown in the title bar and reading it shows what is occurring.
 
Also, how are you placing the download address in the program?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Downloading from YouTube

when i clicked the download button, nothing happens
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Downloading from YouTube

What do you mean by Ponts stopped working.  It works fine here, both 2.x and 3.x versions.  Please give details.  If the program generally had stopped working, I'd have seen lots of discussion on various lists I follow.  We need to try to figure out why it isn't working in your case.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
hey all
what program for windows would you all recommend for my subject line
i used ponds, then it stopped
i use 4 k video downloader, the same happened
i use sound r, the same thing happen
 
what to use with NVDA?
thanks
 


Re: Someone knows a program that integrates Facebook accessible?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The main face book web site is accessible with nvda. apart from changing from say browse mode to focus mode and back some times to see other menus that appear you can use also quick navigation keys with nvda that are supported.


I do have a tutorial on my website that shows nvda been used on it plus I think there is also a written one with shortcuts for it etc.


The link to where they are hosted or linked to is http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html


when you get to it you will need to jump down by headings until you get to the one for face book.


Gene nz


On 4/10/2019 6:27 AM, Rémy Ruiz wrote:
Hi everybody,

Someone knows a program that integrates Facebook accessible.

I do not wish Use the facebook page for mobiles.


Thank you.

Cheers.

Rémy




--
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To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sarah k Alawami
 

AAcutally for me it does not, unless maybe I have my volume on that sound card turned down. but I unplug my usb sound card and nvda and system sounds go silent. I think in my case the fix is simple though.

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On 6 Oct 2019, at 10:52, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

molly the blind tech lover
 

Well all the programs I use work just fine.

Guess I worried for nothing ☺ lol.

But thank you everyone for your help 😊

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

 

If that is all that happens, it isn't worth worrying about.  If you can't use a program you should be able to use, that is another question.  And NVDA often announces unknown at some point when a program is opening or when something like a web page is being loaded.  It is seeing something it doesn't know how to interpret.  If the screen-reader works as it should, it doesn't matter. 

 

Screen-readers operate in complex environments.  Not every behavior where you hear something that indicates something can't be interpreted by a screen-reader is a problem. 

The question is how the screen-reader works in the general context and if it operates as expected. 

 

There are some programs that are inaccessible but that is different than hearing something irrelevant when a program loads and having the screen-reader work properly with it in general.  Every time I open Firefox, I hear SP spoken.  Something causes NvDA to announce this when the program opens.  It doesn't matter.  the prohgram runs properly when it is opened.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

 

Hi

Good to know. Sometimes when I close out of a program NVDA says unknown focused. Perhaps running the tool will fix it?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

 

Running the tool won't hurt anything.  it associates certain dll files that may no longer be properly associated in Windows.  It is generally used in cases such as when you are running a browser and you hear unknown when you try to do most things.  I have no idea about the desktop problem being discussed but if it worked, it worked. 

 

but my point is, and if I'm wrong, others will correct me I hope, that there is no harm in running the utility.  If you just run it to see if it corrects this or that probem, you probably won't see a correction, but for circumstances such as I described, you likely will.  I believe the kinds of problems I'm discussing could occur any time you are in browse mode, such as when reading a PDF document in Acrobat Reader.

 

Also, for those who don't have a reversion system in place, it is very important to have system restore running.  It often isn't running for this or that reason and it can't be assumed to be running.  There are times when system restore is by far the fastest and easiest way to revert a computer to a time when things were working correctly and it avoids doing a lot of trouble shooting in many cases.  So knowing about the utility we are discussing is important but making sure system restore is running and that you have at least one recent restore point available is very important as well unless, as I said, you are using a reversion system, which most people aren't.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:24 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

 

Hi
That makes sense


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dejan Ristic
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

Hi from me,


It was once when I started my computer that the desktop interface was semi-accessible for me. Then, I decided to run the very tool we're just talking about. After the action had been performed, the accessibility issue was okay again.


So, let's suppose for what purposes the tool is used. 😀

On 06/10/2019 05:46, zahra wrote:
> it fixes broken or corrupted dll which are created after you uninstall
> some important program like microsoft office.
>
> On 10/6/19, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
>> Hey everyone, Molly here
>>
>> I hope everyone is having a great weekend.
>>
>> I am wondering, what is NVDA’s  com registration fixing  tool? I want
>> to learn as much as I can about NVDA, and I am curious as to what
>> this tool is and what it is used for. I looked through the NVDA user
>> guide before posting but I could not find info about it under the
>> tools section. Perhaps I missed something?
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing from you guys
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a great weekend 😊
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Clipspeak addon compatibility status

molly the blind tech lover
 

Still works

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak addon compatibility status

 

Well, Clipspeak is still downloadable from the NVDA Stable Add-Ons Page, and so long as it remains there I presume it works.  Things generally get removed if they become incompatible with the current version of NVDA.

Damien Garwood is the author, and is a member of this group.  In the case of Add-Ons, consulting with their respective authors is the best way to find out whether they're being actively maintained and whether they are slated to work with the Python 3 code base.
--

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The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Luke
 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

sile

1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box
2. tab once to a combo box with options
3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones
4 tab to ok button and press enter

NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

you're done

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device


Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile





locked Re: music production with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, there is even a video plugin you can use they talk about on there. I have to dig in the archives for more info, but I believe the archives are public for anyone to browse. You get a wealth of info on there including links to the wiki, osara, and sws. I might suggest they include reapack on there as well. That set of tools just rocks and it is accessible with nvda. But yeah if you have any more questions please subscribe to that rwp list. It is high trafic but most of us are sound engineers like myself and musicians like myself who use this every day.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Oct 2019, at 0:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  I have not done video editting before, but it should be possible.  Join the reaper mailing list for advice to be certain.  Cheers!

On 10/6/2019 10:23 AM, Manoj Govindraj wrote:
Hi,
Is reaper accessible with video editing for tasks like splitting and joining video files? Also, can we save the edited video files as MP4?
Cheers
Manoj 


On Oct 5, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi Arline and all those interested.  You can use Reaper for free to test and evaluate it for 60 days.  In practice though, Reaper can continually be used for free indefinitely as lon as you don't mind the Purchase dialog that pops up when you start up reaper.  But I urge that if you become competent enough to use it, then purchase it.  It costs below $100, $60 was the last time when I bought it.  It is worth every cent I can tell you.  I am not a Reaper promoter, just speaking as a satisfied Reaper user.  Download it at:

https://www.reaper.fm

I will also put two additional PlugIns on my dropbox folder that is issential to help you on your way.

First is Osara, Open source Reaper accessibility:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pnox5kpsa9oy4om/osara_2019.1pre-137%2C169d2e08.exe?dl=1

And SWS, aditional scripts for you to manipulate or enhance Reaper's workings:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/foqkhkjdbvwevpl/sws-v2.10.0.1-x64-install.exe?dl=1

These are the latest versions of the PlugIns.

Also, I would recommend that you join the Reaper Mailing list:   

rwp+subscribe@groups.io           

Substitute the + for a - if I got the address incorrect as I subscribed a long time ago and can't remember the correct subscribe address.  The folks there are amazingly helpful and will go out of their way to help and encourage you on the Reaper Journey, and contrary to belief will hold your hands for as long as you need them to be held, though independence is very much encouraged.  Cheers and God bless!

On 10/6/2019 8:26 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, Is Reaper for free?Or, do you have to pay for it? I don’t mind trying it myself.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: October 5, 2019 5:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

Yep I use it for my video editing. Playing with the video processing plug in for mc os, not that my videos will eve be movie quality but that does not stop me from trying. I. hope one day when I get my voice back I can actually relearn via recycled emails I have how to punch in and out again as I also want to try some studio recording again one day.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 5 Oct 2019, at 15:57, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  I totally agree.  Reaper is perhaps the most simplest to use, and most accessible DAW out on the market, and considering that All DAWS are complicated softwares to use, and that it's price, of US$60, well, my question really is what more do you want?  The people who work so hard to make Reaper accessible for NVDA and Jaws will certainly go into melt down if they here of this uninformed opinion.  I have been using Reaper for much of my work and leisure.  Cheers!

On 10/5/2019 6:24 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote:

there is a plugin you can use to make reaper more accessible. statements like that are apocryphal at best, and wildly inaccurate at worst. Please people, I implore you to conduct research and use the thing before you pass judgement and make groce generalised statements like that in the future.

 

On 5/10/2019 18:34, Andy B. wrote:

At least audacity’s track view is accessible. Reaper’s user interface is less than desirable for a screen reader.

 

 

Andy Borka

Accessibility Engineer

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

Hello, I would recommend audacity. You can do multi-tracking, and the quality of the audio is very good.

 

Sile


On Oct 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

You can use reaper. That is an easy to use very affordable DAW.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 4 Oct 2019, at 8:34, azeesh rahman wrote:

hi. I am great full for all your previous help regarding my queries. i just wanted to know a softwear which can be used for music production in a simple level. specifically beet making and advanced audio mixing with NVDA accessibility in concern.
for your information:
i am not interested in vying any additional tools or hardwear except my computer as if now.
i want to make music using my own voice and virtual instruments available in the softwear itself. hope iam clear with my concern and awaiting for your valuable responses.

 


Re: what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

Gene
 

If that is all that happens, it isn't worth worrying about.  If you can't use a program you should be able to use, that is another question.  And NVDA often announces unknown at some point when a program is opening or when something like a web page is being loaded.  It is seeing something it doesn't know how to interpret.  If the screen-reader works as it should, it doesn't matter. 
 
Screen-readers operate in complex environments.  Not every behavior where you hear something that indicates something can't be interpreted by a screen-reader is a problem. 
The question is how the screen-reader works in the general context and if it operates as expected. 
 
There are some programs that are inaccessible but that is different than hearing something irrelevant when a program loads and having the screen-reader work properly with it in general.  Every time I open Firefox, I hear SP spoken.  Something causes NvDA to announce this when the program opens.  It doesn't matter.  the prohgram runs properly when it is opened.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

Hi

Good to know. Sometimes when I close out of a program NVDA says unknown focused. Perhaps running the tool will fix it?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

 

Running the tool won't hurt anything.  it associates certain dll files that may no longer be properly associated in Windows.  It is generally used in cases such as when you are running a browser and you hear unknown when you try to do most things.  I have no idea about the desktop problem being discussed but if it worked, it worked. 

 

but my point is, and if I'm wrong, others will correct me I hope, that there is no harm in running the utility.  If you just run it to see if it corrects this or that probem, you probably won't see a correction, but for circumstances such as I described, you likely will.  I believe the kinds of problems I'm discussing could occur any time you are in browse mode, such as when reading a PDF document in Acrobat Reader.

 

Also, for those who don't have a reversion system in place, it is very important to have system restore running.  It often isn't running for this or that reason and it can't be assumed to be running.  There are times when system restore is by far the fastest and easiest way to revert a computer to a time when things were working correctly and it avoids doing a lot of trouble shooting in many cases.  So knowing about the utility we are discussing is important but making sure system restore is running and that you have at least one recent restore point available is very important as well unless, as I said, you are using a reversion system, which most people aren't.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 9:24 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

 

Hi
That makes sense


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dejan Ristic
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what is NVDA's com registration fixing tool?

Hi from me,


It was once when I started my computer that the desktop interface was semi-accessible for me. Then, I decided to run the very tool we're just talking about. After the action had been performed, the accessibility issue was okay again.


So, let's suppose for what purposes the tool is used. 😀

On 06/10/2019 05:46, zahra wrote:
> it fixes broken or corrupted dll which are created after you uninstall
> some important program like microsoft office.
>
> On 10/6/19, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
>> Hey everyone, Molly here
>>
>> I hope everyone is having a great weekend.
>>
>> I am wondering, what is NVDA’s  com registration fixing  tool? I want
>> to learn as much as I can about NVDA, and I am curious as to what
>> this tool is and what it is used for. I looked through the NVDA user
>> guide before posting but I could not find info about it under the
>> tools section. Perhaps I missed something?
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing from you guys
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a great weekend 😊
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Mastering Github with a screen reader

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Eclipse has a good integration with GitHub. I use it in this way because eclipse puts GitHub commands in the contexto menu and puts na greater than sign in the name of a changed file. So it helps alot.

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: George Kerscher
Enviado:sábado, 5 de outubro de 2019 22:41
Para: NVDA Discussion list
Assunto: [nvda] Mastering Github with a screen reader

 

Hello NVDA folks,

 

As you may know, Microsoft acquired Github a few years ago. Today Github has become an important tool in many sectors of technology.

 

I must admit that I have not mastered Github yet, but I want to, and I bet a lot of people on this list are in the same position.

 

In my communications with friends working at Microsoft, I have advocated for Microsoft Accessibility to step up and sponsor a training program for persons with disabilities to master Github.

 

Perhaps something already exist, but I have not found it. There was a start at:

https://bats.fyi/2016/08/19/mastering-github-with-a-screen-reader-part-1/

 

but there was no part 2.

 

And I have found some books at Bookshare, but these are not geared to the screen reader user.

 

I hope this will start a thread that can help us collect resources and best practices surrounding Github. What tools do people use and how did those that are successful  learn to master Github?

 

Best

George

 

add

 

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