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locked Re: music production with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Sarah,

 

I too would like to apologize for my unkind words. I’ve done my share of yelling from time to time too. In fact, tonight I came very close to yelling at a friend for not knowing how to download stuff after having used a computer for over 20 years. I won’t go into details about it because I’d be going off topic here. Again, my sincerest apology for my actions.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

I like that about you, Sarah. The fact you can just  shake it off. I wish I was more like you in that regard. Anyway, my sincerest apologies.    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

Oh don't worry I'm used to it. In fact I can if I need to fire back with as much or more venom if i have to. Excuse typos. I have keys falling off of my keyboard. As a teacher I've ben yelled at worse, a lot worse. Lol! I've also done worse yelling especially if a student never practices for a month. Woops, so yeah don't worry about it.

Blessings

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For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
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On 6 Oct 2019, at 16:29, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Actually I was the one who made that statement.

I understand your point. Some questions are easier to answer by doing a google search.  

Also, Sorry Sarah, for yelling at you. It was wrong of me, when you were just trying to be helpful, and I was not being respectful.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 06:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.

That depends entirely on what, exactly, is being asked.   This group (and many others like it) has hundreds of members, and each and every message is an imposition on those other members' time.

There are all sorts of questions where it takes longer to type the message for the list than it would to do a web search, and I'm talking for commonly asked questions.  Asking a question on a group like this along the lines of, "What's the keyboard shortcut in MS-Word to make text bold?," deserves a, "Why on earth did you not do a search for this?"  [It would also be off-topic, but I'm trying to give an illustration of the sort of question where irritation is a perfectly valid reaction when the answer can be found faster, and more easily, without asking it on a mailing list.]

There's also the "who's asking" factor, too.  Someone who's a newbie (to anything) can and should get a lot more slack than those who are known to have a significant knowledge base and level of sophistication.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

molly the blind tech lover
 

I like that about you, Sarah. The fact you can just  shake it off. I wish I was more like you in that regard. Anyway, my sincerest apologies.    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

Oh don't worry I'm used to it. In fact I can if I need to fire back with as much or more venom if i have to. Excuse typos. I have keys falling off of my keyboard. As a teacher I've ben yelled at worse, a lot worse. Lol! I've also done worse yelling especially if a student never practices for a month. Woops, so yeah don't worry about it.

Blessings

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Oct 2019, at 16:29, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Actually I was the one who made that statement.

I understand your point. Some questions are easier to answer by doing a google search.  

Also, Sorry Sarah, for yelling at you. It was wrong of me, when you were just trying to be helpful, and I was not being respectful.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 06:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.

That depends entirely on what, exactly, is being asked.   This group (and many others like it) has hundreds of members, and each and every message is an imposition on those other members' time.

There are all sorts of questions where it takes longer to type the message for the list than it would to do a web search, and I'm talking for commonly asked questions.  Asking a question on a group like this along the lines of, "What's the keyboard shortcut in MS-Word to make text bold?," deserves a, "Why on earth did you not do a search for this?"  [It would also be off-topic, but I'm trying to give an illustration of the sort of question where irritation is a perfectly valid reaction when the answer can be found faster, and more easily, without asking it on a mailing list.]

There's also the "who's asking" factor, too.  Someone who's a newbie (to anything) can and should get a lot more slack than those who are known to have a significant knowledge base and level of sophistication.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Windows 10 App Essentials 19.10.1 released with Windows Search improvements and fixes #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 19.10.1 is now available. This release is a huge one due to numerous fixes and improvements to Windows Search experience, particularly for people running Version 1903 and later (including upcoming 1909). Key changes include:

 

  • In Start menu, NVDA will no longer say “blank” when you press up or down arrow to open all apps view.
  • NVDA will no longer announce search results twice under some circumstances.
  • NVDA will present details of search results more consistently in braille.
  • In Version 1909’s File Explorer, when performing searches via Windows Search (Control+E), NVDA will no longer announce “suggestions” in braille.
  • In Version 1909’s File Explorer/Windows Search, improved performance when announcing search count presented by Windows.
  • Due to UI redesign, workarounds in place to recognize context menu items for Start menu entries is no longer included (context menu items are recognized as a list).
  • Due to rarity of it, workarounds to suppress duplicate name and description announcements for certain Start menu search results has been removed (mostly affects older feature updates but is becoming rare).

 

Note: whenever I say Version 1909, it also applies to 20H1 Insider Preview builds unless otherwise specified.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe I did such a thing, but since it was an accident I never took note on how to do it. Start by searchign under windows's sound settings and see if you can get further than I.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
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Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Oct 2019, at 19:06, Roger Stewart wrote:

Someone told me a while back you can create a hardware profile so that all your devices can be permanently set the way you want them even if you plug and unplug something and then plug it in again. However, I've not been able to figure it out. Is there such a thing, and if so, how do you create a hardware profile? I checked under Hardware in Control Panel and didn't find such a thing. Maybe that person was wrong, but if it can be done, that would be great.
Roger










On 10/6/2019 7:20 PM, Luke wrote:
OK then. Stupid question for you. If I bought A USB headset or headphones then I could get NVDA audio through the headset or headphones and Computer audio through computer speakers? 

On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You are using the same sound card if the headphones are not USB headphones but plug into a standard headphone jack.
 
There is no practical way to solve your problem if you want to use these headphones, except to get an external USB soundcard. 
 
You can buy very inexpensive USB soundcards.  Then, you would need to direct whatever audio you want to play through whichever sound card you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 



locked Re: music production with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh don't worry I'm used to it. In fact I can if I need to fire back with as much or more venom if i have to. Excuse typos. I have keys falling off of my keyboard. As a teacher I've ben yelled at worse, a lot worse. Lol! I've also done worse yelling especially if a student never practices for a month. Woops, so yeah don't worry about it.

Blessings

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Oct 2019, at 16:29, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Actually I was the one who made that statement.

I understand your point. Some questions are easier to answer by doing a google search.  

Also, Sorry Sarah, for yelling at you. It was wrong of me, when you were just trying to be helpful, and I was not being respectful.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 06:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.

That depends entirely on what, exactly, is being asked.   This group (and many others like it) has hundreds of members, and each and every message is an imposition on those other members' time.

There are all sorts of questions where it takes longer to type the message for the list than it would to do a web search, and I'm talking for commonly asked questions.  Asking a question on a group like this along the lines of, "What's the keyboard shortcut in MS-Word to make text bold?," deserves a, "Why on earth did you not do a search for this?"  [It would also be off-topic, but I'm trying to give an illustration of the sort of question where irritation is a perfectly valid reaction when the answer can be found faster, and more easily, without asking it on a mailing list.]

There's also the "who's asking" factor, too.  Someone who's a newbie (to anything) can and should get a lot more slack than those who are known to have a significant knowledge base and level of sophistication.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sarah k Alawami
 

That probably would make a diffference. If yoru head phones are not usb but wired you should not face any issues.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Oct 2019, at 15:27, Luke wrote:

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

And frankly that is the best way to learn. I learn sound forge on my own, office 2009 o was it 2010 on my own as my teacher didn't know what he was doing, I taught him system access because jaws went barf. So yeah. I did mean post the question on rwp but we do not do much hand holding there as there are tools there for you to get your info from. They are in the footer of every single message, which reminds me I need to get the latest osara update from there.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Oct 2019, at 15:25, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

That’s right, Molly. I had a teacher who was like that years ago when I was going to the program called the regional occupation program. She would just hand us the tapes with lessons and would tell us to not ask for help even if we got stuck on something. Eventually it got to the point where I didn’t ask for help anymore even if I really got stuck on something. I did everything myself even if it caused me to have headaches from trying so hard.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 3:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.  what would be the point of asking questions if all someone is told to look up the answer? It  benefits no one

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

Amen, Orlando. One of these days she’ll need help with something and I wonder how she’ll feel if somebody else tells her something like “look upp the answer for yourself” without giving her the tools to search. If a question is asked repeatedly, then that’s a different story.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

At 04:14 PM 10/5/2019, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

>We are here to help one another, yes, however just like the franchise

>I'm in they do not hand hold, not all the time. You are after week 2 on

>your own. So yeah on the reaper list we will hold your  hand and give

>you the tools but after that we don't hand hold if you are asking basic

>questions such as How do I go from track 1 to track two. We gave you the

>tools,  now use them.

 

It would be easier not to respond to such people with elementary

questions than make them feel stupid for asking. We've talked about

this on other lists and you just don't get it. Everyone knows they

can Google something; responding to their requests telling them to

Google contributes absolutely nothing; I wish you'd stop doing that.

 

 

Orlando Enrique Fiol

Ph.D. in Music Theory

University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018

Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer

and Pedagogue

Home: (980) 585-1516

Mobile: (267) 971-7090

Email: ofiol@...        

 

 

 

 

 


Apologies to a Member

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello NVDA List,

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Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hmmm this is from win7 days, you can.

The disadvantage is that on every boot you will have to select that profile and until you do you have no speech its not worth it.



On 7/10/2019 3:06 pm, Roger Stewart wrote:
Someone told me a while back you can create a hardware profile so that all your devices can be permanently set the way you want them even if you plug and unplug something and then plug it in again. However, I've not been able to figure it out. Is there such a thing, and if so, how do you create a hardware profile? I checked under Hardware in Control Panel and didn't find such a thing. Maybe that person was wrong, but if it can be done, that would be great.
Roger










On 10/6/2019 7:20 PM, Luke wrote:
OK then. Stupid question for you. If I bought A USB headset or headphones then I could get NVDA audio through the headset or headphones and Computer audio through computer speakers? 

On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You are using the same sound card if the headphones are not USB headphones but plug into a standard headphone jack.
 
There is no practical way to solve your problem if you want to use these headphones, except to get an external USB soundcard. 
 
You can buy very inexpensive USB soundcards.  Then, you would need to direct whatever audio you want to play through whichever sound card you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 



Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Roger Stewart
 

Someone told me a while back you can create a hardware profile so that all your devices can be permanently set the way you want them even if you plug and unplug something and then plug it in again. However, I've not been able to figure it out. Is there such a thing, and if so, how do you create a hardware profile? I checked under Hardware in Control Panel and didn't find such a thing. Maybe that person was wrong, but if it can be done, that would be great.
Roger










On 10/6/2019 7:20 PM, Luke wrote:
OK then. Stupid question for you. If I bought A USB headset or headphones then I could get NVDA audio through the headset or headphones and Computer audio through computer speakers? 

On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You are using the same sound card if the headphones are not USB headphones but plug into a standard headphone jack.
 
There is no practical way to solve your problem if you want to use these headphones, except to get an external USB soundcard. 
 
You can buy very inexpensive USB soundcards.  Then, you would need to direct whatever audio you want to play through whichever sound card you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 



Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Gene
 

If you want the NVDA audio to go through the USB soundcard, you would set NVDA to use that sound card.  This is done within NVDA itself.
But I don't know how you direct the other audio to use the original internal sound card.  Others would have to answer that.  I've never tried such a setting.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

OK then. Stupid question for you. If I bought A USB headset or headphones then I could get NVDA audio through the headset or headphones and Computer audio through computer speakers? 

On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You are using the same sound card if the headphones are not USB headphones but plug into a standard headphone jack.
 
There is no practical way to solve your problem if you want to use these headphones, except to get an external USB soundcard. 
 
You can buy very inexpensive USB soundcards.  Then, you would need to direct whatever audio you want to play through whichever sound card you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,

 

Yes, I do agree that people should search on their own for basic questions like “what’s the keystroke for bold”. I didn’t mean any disrespect for Sarah and I do think it’s commendable that she didn’t have to have help learning her work. All I’m saying is that we all learn at different levels. That’s all I was meaning. I’d like to publicly apologize to Sarah if I hurt her.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 06:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.

That depends entirely on what, exactly, is being asked.   This group (and many others like it) has hundreds of members, and each and every message is an imposition on those other members' time.

There are all sorts of questions where it takes longer to type the message for the list than it would to do a web search, and I'm talking for commonly asked questions.  Asking a question on a group like this along the lines of, "What's the keyboard shortcut in MS-Word to make text bold?," deserves a, "Why on earth did you not do a search for this?"  [It would also be off-topic, but I'm trying to give an illustration of the sort of question where irritation is a perfectly valid reaction when the answer can be found faster, and more easily, without asking it on a mailing list.]

There's also the "who's asking" factor, too.  Someone who's a newbie (to anything) can and should get a lot more slack than those who are known to have a significant knowledge base and level of sophistication.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Luke
 

OK then. Stupid question for you. If I bought A USB headset or headphones then I could get NVDA audio through the headset or headphones and Computer audio through computer speakers? 

On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You are using the same sound card if the headphones are not USB headphones but plug into a standard headphone jack.
 
There is no practical way to solve your problem if you want to use these headphones, except to get an external USB soundcard. 
 
You can buy very inexpensive USB soundcards.  Then, you would need to direct whatever audio you want to play through whichever sound card you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

molly the blind tech lover
 

Don’t worry about it

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 7:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 07:29 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Actually I was the one who made that statement.

Indeed.  One of the dangers of "select and quote" when the material selected is already bottom quoted in another post.  My apologies both to yourself and Rosemarie.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 07:29 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Actually I was the one who made that statement.
Indeed.  One of the dangers of "select and quote" when the material selected is already bottom quoted in another post.  My apologies both to yourself and Rosemarie.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

molly the blind tech lover
 

Actually I was the one who made that statement.

I understand your point. Some questions are easier to answer by doing a google search.  

Also, Sorry Sarah, for yelling at you. It was wrong of me, when you were just trying to be helpful, and I was not being respectful.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 06:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.

That depends entirely on what, exactly, is being asked.   This group (and many others like it) has hundreds of members, and each and every message is an imposition on those other members' time.

There are all sorts of questions where it takes longer to type the message for the list than it would to do a web search, and I'm talking for commonly asked questions.  Asking a question on a group like this along the lines of, "What's the keyboard shortcut in MS-Word to make text bold?," deserves a, "Why on earth did you not do a search for this?"  [It would also be off-topic, but I'm trying to give an illustration of the sort of question where irritation is a perfectly valid reaction when the answer can be found faster, and more easily, without asking it on a mailing list.]

There's also the "who's asking" factor, too.  Someone who's a newbie (to anything) can and should get a lot more slack than those who are known to have a significant knowledge base and level of sophistication.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Gene
 

You are using the same sound card if the headphones are not USB headphones but plug into a standard headphone jack.
 
There is no practical way to solve your problem if you want to use these headphones, except to get an external USB soundcard. 
 
You can buy very inexpensive USB soundcards.  Then, you would need to direct whatever audio you want to play through whichever sound card you want.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I don’t know if this makes a difference but my headphones or not USB. They use the headphone jack on the computer  

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

As long as you keep plugging and unplugging the headset you are going to have this problem. When you plug in a USB headset it becomes the new default device. When you unplug it the system falls back to the internal default speaker.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

 

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

 

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

>

> sile

>

> 1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box

> 2. tab once to a combo box with options

> 3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones

> 4 tab to ok button and press enter

>

> NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

>

> you're done

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

>

>

>> Hello

>>

>>

>> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.

>>

>>

>> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.

>>

>>

>> --Sile

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 

That’s a great idea, I totally forgot I have a USB audio device that I can plug into my laptop.

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Luke <bugsyman35@...> wrote:

Hi! I followed Kerryn’s steps and it didn’t work for me. Both The computer and NVDA audio was coming through the headphones. I think I want to do what Sile wants to do. I want NVDA to come through my headphones only when they are plugged in the headphone jack and the Computer audio for example music and game sounds to come out the computer speakers. Maybe you need 2 sound cards for that? Which I don’t know how many I have and don’t know how you can tell.

On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

sile

1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box
2. tab once to a combo box with options
3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones
4 tab to ok button and press enter

NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

you're done

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device


Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile






locked Re: music production with NVDA

 

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 06:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think telling someone to just google it defeats the purpose of a mailing list.
That depends entirely on what, exactly, is being asked.   This group (and many others like it) has hundreds of members, and each and every message is an imposition on those other members' time.

There are all sorts of questions where it takes longer to type the message for the list than it would to do a web search, and I'm talking for commonly asked questions.  Asking a question on a group like this along the lines of, "What's the keyboard shortcut in MS-Word to make text bold?," deserves a, "Why on earth did you not do a search for this?"  [It would also be off-topic, but I'm trying to give an illustration of the sort of question where irritation is a perfectly valid reaction when the answer can be found faster, and more easily, without asking it on a mailing list.]

There's also the "who's asking" factor, too.  Someone who's a newbie (to anything) can and should get a lot more slack than those who are known to have a significant knowledge base and level of sophistication.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


locked Re: music production with NVDA

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 06:03 PM 10/6/2019, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Amen, Orlando. One of these days she'll need help with something and
I wonder how she'll feel if somebody else tells her something like
"look upp the answer for yourself"� without giving her the tools to
search.
Sarah and others like her feel that if they came by their knowledge through lots of study, trial and error, so should everyone else. But they miss the whole point of email lists, which are explicitly intended for people to converse about specific topics. Anyone can read books, search the web or consult help files. But when they turn to email lists for help, they're after human interaction. Some people learn best through Socratic dialogue, asking a specific person questions and exchanging ideas in a real discussion. Many people want to be able to ask series of questions once they get the first one answered. Googling usually doesn't accomplish that.
Orlando Enrique Fiol