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nvda and microsoft access:

kenny Peyatt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi I don’t know if this is the right list for this, but I was wondering if nvda works with Microsoft access and if so how well does it work with nvda?

Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
I use the default accent max voice. The u s accent sounds a little flat and buzzy to me. I didn't play around with much though.
Pete

On 3/10/2016 10:08 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Pete,

Do you use the English accent voice or English US? Right now I haveMax set to the English US voice.

Rosemarie


On 3/10/2016 6:51 PM, Pete wrote:

male 3 isn't too bad. Try setting the pitch to 55 or 45 and set inflection to 45. I use max set to pitch 45 and inflection 75 with rate boost checked set to about 50%...
I lower the inflection the slower the speech is and higher inflection for faster speech. I would like to be able to control the pause between words...
I used an old accent PC synthesizer so am used to a thin sounding voice. I miss that old accent PC synth.
Pete





Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
OK These are all in the view menu in Thunderbird:
I looked again in the toolbars and I don't have any thing checked in there.
in lay out the only things I have checked is:
clasic view and folder pane
in folders I have all radial checked
I have none checked in the today pane
I have ascending and date checked in the sort by
calendar is unavailable as is tasks
in threads all is checked
in headers normal is checked
in message body as has original HTML checked
display attachments inline is checked
zoom has text only checked
character encoding sub menu is unavailable

OK in tools press enter on options
general:
show start page when Thunderbird launches is not checked
show a tray icon is not checked

display:
formatting:
I set set font size to 16 in here
advanced:
selected open message in a new window
close message window / tab on move or delete is checked
composition:
general:
changed variable with font to fixed with font in here
spelling:
unchecked check spelling as you type in here

I think I got most all of the changes I made. There might have been some other changes I made can't say for sure now what they are / were.
Let me know how it works?
Good luck!
Pete

On 3/10/2016 9:41 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I have those things unchecked too.



On 3/10/2016 6:04 PM, Pete wrote:

Hi
two more things, I do is uncheck Thunderbird options general Thunderbird start page and I select in composition advanced open messages in a new window radio button.

Pete






Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene
 

I don't use GMail but I listened to a little of the tutorial and, as I recall, the person says to use shift enter to open the message in a new window.  That is a good procedure and it's worth doing in a lot of other instances as well.  By opening the message in a new window, you can return to where you were before on the other page simpley by closing the Window with alt f4.  You won't loose your place because the other window was always opened and you are simply returning to it.  I use the command routinely when I know I want to return to a previous page and resume where I left off.  For example, when I'm on a newspaper page, I use the command to follow a link to read an article.  I can then return to the previous page by closing the new window and never lose my place.  I'm on the link I followed.
 
I use it when following search results on a Google page.  I may want to look at numerous results and this makes it much more convenient to look at a result and then return to the results page.
 
I didn't realize the importance of this procedure for quite some time after I started using the Internet.  the importance of it should be emphasized when teaching blind people to use the Internet.  it isn't.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Dear all,

I downloaded the mp3 version of Brandon Biggs' tutorial on NVDA with
Gmail and I have some doubts regarding that.

1.  In what way(s) is/are the standard view better than basic html view?

2.  What's the difference between opening a mail and opening a mail in
a new window?

Thanks and regards.


On 3/10/16, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I use
> https://obsproject.com/
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <
> supanut2000@...> wrote:
>
>>     Hi,
>> What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is
>> visible, I'd assume you use a screen recording program.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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K. Nageswaraiah




Re: accessible version of Seamonkey?

 

yes I did receive the radios
sorry I am now getting to the verry end of my 2000 plus emails.
hope u are well
Hank

On 3/10/2016 3:13 PM, Dan B Dyer JrDanny wrote:
Hank, did u get the box?&are u ok with its' contents? Dd

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2016, at 4:55 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

will the free version work for uninstalling 64 bit programs? if not what is a good program that is simular to revo uninstaller
that will work on 64 bit programs?
thanks
Hank

On 3/5/2016 6:10 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue. I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>


Re: NVDA and win10?

kenny Peyatt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi I know that nvda-kr.org has some podcasts with nvda and windows 10.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Mehler [mailto:dave.mehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and win10?

Hello,

I just got a fresh box with windows 10 version 1511 installed. I've
put Nvda 2016.1 on it. Are there any podcasts on win10, with emphasis
on win7 transfer users. I use win7 now I've got two win10 boxes, I'd
like to learn a little about them.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

You can press the first letter of the voice you are looking for repeatedly until you get to it.
Pete


Re: java access bridge

mohammad suliman
 

hi,
so, has it worked for you?
if not here are some tips:
first, the directory to copy windowsAccessBridge-64.dll to is:
C:\Windows\System32
don't know if this was a typing mistake
according to my experience, if you delete java completely from your computer, and then download both installers and install it again, you will get a better results.
think the access bridge package files is old. when I did exactly as you described, java apps were very slow, and I got some errors in NVDA log.
something to mention: if you decide to reinstall java from scratch, the only missing file will be windowAccessBridge-32.dll, just copy it from java_home_32/bin to the location you specified and that's it.

On 3/11/2016 1:57 AM, Pete wrote:

Hi Chris
Here is what I did using the accessbridge-2_0_2-fcs-bin-b06.zip and the jre-8u65-windows-i586.exe and the jre-8u65-windows-x64.exe using windows 7 64 bit pro.
After installing the 64 and 32 bit versions of j r e.

@ echo off
REM Unzip accessbridge-2_0_2-fcs-bin-b06.zip and run batch from with in...
copy /b /v "WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll" "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll"
copy /b /v "WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll" "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll"
copy /b /v "JavaAccessBridge-32.dll" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JavaAccessBridge-32.dll"
copy /b /v "JavaAccessBridge-64.dll" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JavaAccessBridge-64.dll"
copy /b /v "JAWTAccessBridge-32.dll" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JAWTAccessBridge-32.dll"
copy /b /v "JAWTAccessBridge-64.dll" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\bin\JAWTAccessBridge-64.dll"
copy /b /v "accessibility.properties" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties"
copy /b /v "accessibility.properties" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties"
copy /b /v "access-bridge-32.jar" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\access-bridge-32.jar"
copy /b /v "access-bridge-64.jar" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\access-bridge-64.jar"
copy /b /v "jaccess.jar" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\jaccess.jar"
copy /b /v "jaccess.jar" "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\ext\jaccess.jar"
cls
exit

Next edit the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties" and the "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_65\lib\accessibility.properties"files to enable the access bridge.
That's about it.
Pete

On 3/8/2016 7:17 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Pete
On a 64-bit version of Windows, both 32 and 64-bit JRE's should be installed. WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll needs to be in the System32 folder and WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll in the SysWow64 folder. The latter folder is for 32-bit programs running on a 64-bit system and NVDA log shows an error if the 32-bit dll is not present. The Java installers have been useless for several versions now an I have had to update the folders manually.

Cheers
Chris

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 08 March 2016 20:28
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] java access bridge


hi
two things about manually activating java access bridge on windows.
Depending on 32 or 64 bit version of windows the windows access bridge
32 dll file needs to be copied to the windows system32 folder for the 32 bit windows version and the windows access bridge 64 dll file needs to be copied to the windows syswow64 folder for the 64 bit version of windows. Additionally the accessibility.properties file in the Java \ jre [what ever version U have] \ lib folder needs to be edited and the lines for the access bridge need to be uncommented.
For some unknown reason to me the java installers do not copy the windows access bridge 32 or 64 files to the system folders on windows.
I also found the ease of access applet not to be effective in enabling java access bridge.
I participated in an access bridge discussion in the past on this list. Apparently no one knows why java access bridge is not fully installed by the java installers. Not sure who is developing java now but no one has seen fit to write me back with answers to my questions about this.
Pete









Hide quoted messages?

 

Hi all,

Is there a way to hide quoted messages on groups.io? When reading threads on this list, I often feel annoyed by long quoted messages, so I thought...it would be nice if I could hide them so I can jump to the next message straight away.


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Pete,

Do you use the English accent voice or English US? Right now I haveMax set to the English US voice.

Rosemarie

On 3/10/2016 6:51 PM, Pete wrote:

male 3 isn't too bad. Try setting the pitch to 55 or 45 and set inflection to 45. I use max set to pitch 45 and inflection 75 with rate boost checked set to about 50%...
I lower the inflection the slower the speech is and higher inflection for faster speech. I would like to be able to control the pause between words...
I used an old accent PC synthesizer so am used to a thin sounding voice. I miss that old accent PC synth.
Pete


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

 

Hi,

Try Vocalizer for NVDA (not the one from Code Factory). I'm using it, both on my Surface 3 and my desktop and I loved it. When I bought this thing it only costs 3450 Thai baht or something, which is pretty cheap given that I can freely download all voices (bundles are recommended as premium high/plus versions takes up lots of space).


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,
Did you listen to the recording? With standard view it feels like something like Thunderbird.
There are key shortcuts like c to compose, f to forward and r to reply. You don't need to jump around as much.

When you open the message in a new window it is easier to read and faster. You can also have several messages open at once.
Thanks,

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Kakarla Nageswaraiah <nageswara1982@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I downloaded the mp3 version of Brandon Biggs' tutorial on NVDA with
Gmail and I have some doubts regarding that.

1.  In what way(s) is/are the standard view better than basic html view?

2.  What's the difference between opening a mail and opening a mail in
a new window?

Thanks and regards.


On 3/10/16, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I use
> https://obsproject.com/
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <
> supanut2000@...> wrote:
>
>>     Hi,
>> What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is
>> visible, I'd assume you use a screen recording program.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


--
కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య

K. Nageswaraiah





Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
I to value being able to use letter navigation, or in a explorer list view being able to type in the first 3 or so chars to go to the file name U want to select. Pete


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

male 3 isn't too bad. Try setting the pitch to 55 or 45 and set inflection to 45. I use max set to pitch 45 and inflection 75 with rate boost checked set to about 50%...
I lower the inflection the slower the speech is and higher inflection for faster speech. I would like to be able to control the pause between words...
I used an old accent PC synthesizer so am used to a thin sounding voice. I miss that old accent PC synth.
Pete


Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

 

Thanks for the info on how to get rid of all of those extra things
that you have to tab through.
I was keen to use TB to replace my gMail webmail. The things that I
really want is to be able to view conversations as in gMail and to
hear the first line or two of the email so I don't have to open the
email if I don't want to.
I experimented with preview pane and didn't seem to figure out how to work it.
I also downloaded the conversations add-on and installed it ... and I
can't figure it out either. It seems to have merged my two gMail
accounts and it takes forever to get through the different folders to
get to the labels/sub folders that I have for each account.
Has anyone else been able to get it to work? Or does anyone have a
tutorial that points to streamlining your TB view and or one making TB
work similarly to gMail's webmail?

thanks,
Melissa

On 3/9/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Using the layout submenu in the View menu, I have set Tbird to display only
the folder list and the currently selected folder displaying the list of
messages, which is about as bare bones as it gets. Pressing enter on a
message opens the body, esc to return to the list. In the Layout sub-menu I
only have the Vertical view, and folder list items checked. The tab key
just loops arount between the tab control of the currently selected folder,
the selected folder in the folder treeview and the currently select message
in the list window. The listed messages details are accessed using the
table navigation keys Control Alt Arrows. It’s a while since I set it up,
there may be other settings I made to get it to this state, which I did to
make it easy for a friend of mine to use. NVDA usually says unknown when
it encounters a control or unlabelled icon it can’t interpret. I get this
after pressing enter on a message in the list, when the message body opens
but I’ve not experienced any difficulties using it.



For completeness, Control n to compose a new message, Control enter to send
it.



Cheers



Chris



From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 March 2016 00:54
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird saying unknown



Hello,

I am teaching a student to use Thunderbird with NVDA and when they are
reading a message, NVDA will say "unknown" if they hit tab out of the body.
It will also say unknown if they hit tab out of the list view of the
messages.

This on Windows 8 with the latest version of Thunderbird and the latest
version of NVDA.

Thunderbird is really easy to use, but is there an email client that is just
bairbones emails and folders?

Thank you,




Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>




Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

Is there a way to make thunderbird automatically go back to the inbox after replying to a message like you can with other programs?

On 3/10/2016 6:13 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi,
I too recently installed Mozilla Thunderbird and have been
experimenting with it since yesterday.
Thanks for bring this topic up, Brandon, and for the various tips by others.
Some more occurences of 'unknown' in Thunderbird are when you tab
around the main screen or page of Thunderbird, where two or three
unknowns appear subsequently in tab order, before the event related
buttons.
I also must disable whatever I can and see if Thunderbird actually
increases my efficiency or productivity in any way as opposed to my
web Basic HTML interface of GMail, which I may eventually transition
from to the Standard View.
Thanks.

On 3/11/16, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca> wrote:
Hi
two more things, I do is uncheck Thunderbird options general Thunderbird
start page and I select in composition advanced open messages in a new
window radio button.

Pete





Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I have those things unchecked too.

On 3/10/2016 6:04 PM, Pete wrote:

Hi
two more things, I do is uncheck Thunderbird options general Thunderbird start page and I select in composition advanced open messages in a new window radio button.

Pete



Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

What is lightning and what does it do?

On 3/10/2016 6:19 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes I have turned off lightning, is lightning any good as such?



On 11/03/2016 3:14 p.m., Tyler Spivey wrote:
IIRC, Thunderbird comes with Lightning. Turn it off in the addons.
On 3/10/2016 6:13 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi,
I too recently installed Mozilla Thunderbird and have been
experimenting with it since yesterday.
Thanks for bring this topic up, Brandon, and for the various tips by others.
Some more occurences of 'unknown' in Thunderbird are when you tab
around the main screen or page of Thunderbird, where two or three
unknowns appear subsequently in tab order, before the event related
buttons.
I also must disable whatever I can and see if Thunderbird actually
increases my efficiency or productivity in any way as opposed to my
web Basic HTML interface of GMail, which I may eventually transition
from to the Standard View.
Thanks.

On 3/11/16, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca> wrote:

Hi
two more things, I do is uncheck Thunderbird options general Thunderbird
start page and I select in composition advanced open messages in a new
window radio button.

Pete








Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Pete,

I want to set up thunderbird like you have it. That way I'll just have the tree view and the list of messages.

Rosemarie

On 3/10/2016 5:48 PM, Pete wrote:

Hi
I go in to the view menu toolbars only thing checked in there is status bar. then view menu view message body as original HTML is checked.
Not sure where I did this but turned off the extra tool bars so I just have the tree view with the folders and the list view of messages like outlook express.
Out of the box Thunderbird has a today pain and some tabs and a few other fluttery things open. Tabbing threw them is time consuming and some times you can get stuck in a window element. So I just turn off every thing I can. There is a chat section to disable also unless one uses it.
Pete



NVDA and win10?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I just got a fresh box with windows 10 version 1511 installed. I've
put Nvda 2016.1 on it. Are there any podcasts on win10, with emphasis
on win7 transfer users. I use win7 now I've got two win10 boxes, I'd
like to learn a little about them.

Thanks.
Dave.