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using nvda to label buttons in the WWE Network app:

kenny Peyatt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi I downloaded a app from the windows store called WWE Nettwork, and while I can tab through the various options and press enter to actiate them, I noticed that the buttons are not labeled. I thought about making a add on for nvda that can label the buttons but was wondering if there is a feature in NVDA that can let me label the buttons.

Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official addons website completely

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I wonder if some how you have restricted where the mouse goes. I was
just looking through the commands and saw these 2.


I do not use the mouse hardly and when I do now I use a touch pad, so it
moves the pointer to where my finger is.


The commands are below.


nvda+win+c: select the level of movement. nvda+win+r: toggle mouse
restriction.


it might be a matter of unrestricting what theyare set to.



Gene nz

On 24/07/2016 11:17 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi,
I am having a problem with Golden Cursor, my favorite add on by far.
Yesterday, it stopped moving the mouse pointer when pressing the arrow
keys. Everything else with it works, like reporting the position where
the mouse pointer is. I uninstalled it, and installed it again, and it
still will not move the mouse around the screen with the arrow keys. I
tried version 1.1, and the development version, and they both do this.
I was using the mouse 50 percent of the time, just by moving the mouse
pointer with the arrow keys. Let me know if any of you are
experiencing this problem, and if so, have you been able to fix it
some way.
Take care, guys,
David Moore


-----Original Message----- From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from
official addons website completely

Are these the ones you just downloaded or ones that were there before.
Also
if they were there before which version of nvda was running at the time?
I have found at times that I've had to delete and reinstall add ons if
there has been an nvda update in between. Its not always the case but
sometimes. My guess is that some settings got screwed with or something.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "J.G" <jozko.gregorc@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official
addons website completely


Hi,

here is description of problem:

when i downloaded addons from addons.nvda-project.org to my computer and
opened chosen addons, nvda made as usual. Then I restart nvda, but in
Addon
manager addon status was "install" and now I cannot use some of addons.
These are: ControlUsageAssistant, FocusHighlight, Ocr, PlaceMarkers
SystrayList and Wirtual revision.

What could be wrong?

Thanks, Jožef






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Re: NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official addons website completely

David Moore
 

Hi,
I am having a problem with Golden Cursor, my favorite add on by far. Yesterday, it stopped moving the mouse pointer when pressing the arrow keys. Everything else with it works, like reporting the position where the mouse pointer is. I uninstalled it, and installed it again, and it still will not move the mouse around the screen with the arrow keys. I tried version 1.1, and the development version, and they both do this. I was using the mouse 50 percent of the time, just by moving the mouse pointer with the arrow keys. Let me know if any of you are experiencing this problem, and if so, have you been able to fix it some way.
Take care, guys,
David Moore

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official addons website completely

Are these the ones you just downloaded or ones that were there before. Also
if they were there before which version of nvda was running at the time?
I have found at times that I've had to delete and reinstall add ons if
there has been an nvda update in between. Its not always the case but
sometimes. My guess is that some settings got screwed with or something.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "J.G" <jozko.gregorc@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official
addons website completely


Hi,

here is description of problem:

when i downloaded addons from addons.nvda-project.org to my computer and
opened chosen addons, nvda made as usual. Then I restart nvda, but in Addon
manager addon status was "install" and now I cannot use some of addons.
These are: ControlUsageAssistant, FocusHighlight, Ocr, PlaceMarkers
SystrayList and Wirtual revision.

What could be wrong?

Thanks, Jožef


Your First NVDA App Module: session 4 posted, session 5 is scheduled for July 30th at 18:00 UTC

 

Hi everyone,

 

Session 4 of Your First NVDA App Module (events and event handling) is now available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod4.mp3

 

Also, session 5 (overlay classes) is scheduled for July 30, 2016 at 18:00 UTC (11 AM Pacific). Enjoy the recording.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official addons website completely

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Are these the ones you just downloaded or ones that were there before. Also if they were there before which version of nvda was running at the time?
I have found at times that I've had to delete and reinstall add ons if there has been an nvda update in between. Its not always the case but sometimes. My guess is that some settings got screwed with or something.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official addons website completely


Hi,

here is description of problem:

when i downloaded addons from addons.nvda-project.org to my computer and opened chosen addons, nvda made as usual. Then I restart nvda, but in Addon manager addon status was "install" and now I cannot use some of addons. These are: ControlUsageAssistant, FocusHighlight, Ocr, PlaceMarkers SystrayList and Wirtual revision.

What could be wrong?

Thanks, Jožef


Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

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Neither of which as far as I know can be downloaded to a stick updated and taken to a computer with no internet connection and run.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Oliver" <blindman75@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


further to my last, if I had to use any other, I'd either use vypre or
esset nod32



On 23/07/2016 23:47, Shaun Oliver wrote:

what is wrong with windows defender? quite frankly, it's as good as
any other out there and is accessible.


It does also get decent write ups.



On 23/07/2016 23:18, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not well reviewed. I wouldn't use it.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

try clamwin



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And as an aside to this question.
I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
with NVDA?

Thanks,
John

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Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

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I think he was opining on one which could be run without an internet connection. its got to be better than nothing or the copy of msse that keeps crashing the machine as I won't let it download the updates.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


Clamwin is not well reviewed. I wouldn't use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


try clamwin



On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
And as an aside to this question.
I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
with NVDA?

Thanks,
John

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Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

You can just use never10 of course. Its a simple toggle.
Then you still get the regular normal windows updates. I have also uninstalled the nag update and hidden it. Not that hard to do.
However on my machine which has windows 10/ classic shell on it, I wonder how one is supposed to review updates being offered. I've seen what is installed afterwards, but it seems pretty silent on the updates its quietly downloading and installing. The only time you notice is when you try to shut down and it spends ages fiddling about till it goes off.

I was wondering what happens when the anniversary update comes along next month. Is that machine going to get it and spend ages installing a new version without telling me I wonder?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10



Not having the optional updates selected in windows update on windows 7 64 bit pro I found is the easiest way to avoid the upgrade to windows 10 nag.

Pete


On 7/2/2016 4:52 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
All I can tell you is that our charity office had the we are going to update your machine to windows 10 on, and a date, is this OK to the operator hit no, and went and had a cup of tea, only to find it mid way into the update when she got back. Another machine said this so they answered yes and nothing happened until everyone had forgotten and the date came and it started to update.
Myself I have now used never 10 on the two machines running 7, though since removing the windows update that cased the nags I've not seen this prompt as described. its got something also to do with that setting windows anytime upgrade as well I am told but I turned off messages ago. I now have a very long list of not critical but suggested updates I could install. it installs the critical ones without asking of course.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <Antony.Stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


Are you suggesting that Microsoft will at some point forcibly upgrade people's
machines from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10?

I know there's a free upgrade available, but it's the user's choice whether to
accept it.

If Microsoft have stated that this will one day become a compulsory upgrade,
please point me to any reference confirming this.


Thanks,


Antony.

On Friday 01 July 2016 at 10:30:16, Shaun Everiss wrote:

One thing though, nvda is going to have to support win10 by the time it
upgrades because home users will get it automatically.
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NVDA 2016.2.1 does not install some addons from official addons website completely

J.G
 

Hi,


here is description of problem:


when i downloaded addons from addons.nvda-project.org to my computer and opened chosen addons, nvda made as usual. Then I restart nvda, but in Addon manager addon status was "install" and now I cannot use some of addons. These are: ControlUsageAssistant, FocusHighlight, Ocr, PlaceMarkers SystrayList and Wirtual revision.


What could be wrong?


Thanks, Jožef


Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Gene
 

Since you bottom posted, a lot of people will skip your message, in part because many will think you didn't include one. 
 
I don't follow antivirus programs enough to recommend any.
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
 
Clamwin is not well reviewed.  I wouldn't use it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
 
try clamwin



On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> And as an aside to this question.
> I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
> say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
> always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
> date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer"
> <john.boyer@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
> Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
>
>
>> Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
>> with NVDA?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
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>> AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
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>>         disabilities which are available at no cost.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Pete <emac00@...>
 

may be usefull for use on an usb stick for a stand alone scanner.

On 7/23/2016 10:00 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
I agree. ClamWin is a spin-off product for Windows, from the ClamAV project,
originally developed for Unix and Linux systems.

ClamAV works fine on Linux, and is a useful scanner, but ClamWin has the major
drawback that it doesn't do on-demand scanning (for example of files as they
get downloaded from the Internet, or as they get received in emails) - it only
does file system scanning (ie: checking files after they've arrived on your
computer and have been stored on the hard disk). In some instances, this can
be too late.


Antony.

On Saturday 23 July 2016 at 15:48:46, Gene wrote:

Clamwin is not well reviewed. I wouldn't use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


try clamwin

On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
And as an aside to this question.
I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
with NVDA?

Thanks,
John


Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Shaun Oliver
 

further to my last, if I had to use any other, I'd either use vypre or esset nod32



On 23/07/2016 23:47, Shaun Oliver wrote:

what is wrong with windows defender? quite frankly, it's as good as any other out there and is accessible.


It does also get decent write ups.



On 23/07/2016 23:18, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not well reviewed.  I wouldn't use it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

try clamwin



On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> And as an aside to this question.
> I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
> say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
> always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
> date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer"
> <john.boyer@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
> Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
>
>
>> Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
>> with NVDA?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>> --
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>> AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
>> Email: john.boyer@...
>> Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
>> Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
>> Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
>> Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
>>         disabilities which are available at no cost.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Shaun Oliver
 

what is wrong with windows defender? quite frankly, it's as good as any other out there and is accessible.


It does also get decent write ups.



On 23/07/2016 23:18, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not well reviewed.  I wouldn't use it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

try clamwin



On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> And as an aside to this question.
> I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
> say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
> always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
> date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer"
> <john.boyer@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
> Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
>
>
>> Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
>> with NVDA?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>> --
>> John J. Boyer; President,
>> AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
>> Email: john.boyer@...
>> Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
>> Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
>> Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
>> Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
>>         disabilities which are available at no cost.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Antony Stone
 

I agree. ClamWin is a spin-off product for Windows, from the ClamAV project,
originally developed for Unix and Linux systems.

ClamAV works fine on Linux, and is a useful scanner, but ClamWin has the major
drawback that it doesn't do on-demand scanning (for example of files as they
get downloaded from the Internet, or as they get received in emails) - it only
does file system scanning (ie: checking files after they've arrived on your
computer and have been stored on the hard disk). In some instances, this can
be too late.


Antony.

On Saturday 23 July 2016 at 15:48:46, Gene wrote:

Clamwin is not well reviewed. I wouldn't use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


try clamwin

On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
And as an aside to this question.
I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
with NVDA?

Thanks,
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Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Peter Beasley
 

 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
 
Clamwin is not well reviewed.  I wouldn't use it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
 
try clamwin



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> And as an aside to this question.
> I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
> say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not
> always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of
> date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian
>
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> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
> Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
>
>
>> Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
>> with NVDA?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>> --
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>> AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
>> Email: john.boyer@...
>> Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
>> Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
>> Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
>> Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
>>         disabilities which are available at no cost.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Gene
 

Clamwin is not well reviewed.  I wouldn't use it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program

try clamwin



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> I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run,
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> date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian
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> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
> Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program
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>> Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
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>> John
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Re: looking for a good ntivirus program

Pete <emac00@...>
 

try clamwin

On 7/2/2016 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
And as an aside to this question.
I have a need for a stand alone anti virus scanner which I can run, say from a ram stick and update on one machine and run on others not always connected to the internet without it complaining its out of date or needs an internet connection to update. Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 1:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] looking for a good ntivirus program


Does anyone want to recommend a free antivirus program that works well
with NVDA?

Thanks,
John

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Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Not having the optional updates selected in windows update on windows 7 64 bit pro I found is the easiest way to avoid the upgrade to windows 10 nag.

Pete

On 7/2/2016 4:52 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
All I can tell you is that our charity office had the we are going to update your machine to windows 10 on, and a date, is this OK to the operator hit no, and went and had a cup of tea, only to find it mid way into the update when she got back. Another machine said this so they answered yes and nothing happened until everyone had forgotten and the date came and it started to update.
Myself I have now used never 10 on the two machines running 7, though since removing the windows update that cased the nags I've not seen this prompt as described. its got something also to do with that setting windows anytime upgrade as well I am told but I turned off messages ago. I now have a very long list of not critical but suggested updates I could install. it installs the critical ones without asking of course.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <Antony.Stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


Are you suggesting that Microsoft will at some point forcibly upgrade people's
machines from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10?

I know there's a free upgrade available, but it's the user's choice whether to
accept it.

If Microsoft have stated that this will one day become a compulsory upgrade,
please point me to any reference confirming this.


Thanks,


Antony.

On Friday 01 July 2016 at 10:30:16, Shaun Everiss wrote:

One thing though, nvda is going to have to support win10 by the time it
upgrades because home users will get it automatically.
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Re: Touch cursor support

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 

  insert numpad 7 does not cycle threw options for me 

  the first press gets me screen review  the second press gets me no previous review mode 

  insert numpad 1 works simularly  the first press gets me object review and the next pres gets me no previous review mode 

  This is using nvda latest running on windows 7 64 bit pro. 

  Pete 



On 7/1/2016 8:14 PM, Gene wrote:
It's easier, in my opinion, to demonstrate how object navigation works than to try to explain it.  After it is demonstrated, an explanation might be helpful but I learned how to use object navigation by experimentation with very little reliance on explanations. 
 
Do the following:
This discussion uses the desktop keyboard layout.  I don't use the laptop layout and am notfamiliar with it. 
Issue the command numpad insert numpad 7.  That is, hold numpad insert and while doing so press 7.  Do this until you have moved through the review options you can move to in that way.  Then move back using numpad insert numpad one.  Stop at object navigation. 
Now, open some simple program everyone has on their computer.  Let's use Notepad. 
Write the word "test."
Now, issue the command numpad insert numpad 4.  You will move from the document window to another part of the program. 
Now issue the command numpad insert numpad 6.  You are back in the document window again.  You have moved first to a different object, then back to the document window, the object you started on.
Now issue the command numpad insert numpad 8. 
You have moved out of the document window and are now at an object that says untitled notepad window.  Move up again with the same command.  I'm not sure what you will hear depending on your version of Windows.  You may hear desktop window.  Try moving to the left and right by object with numpad 4 and 6. At least on my machine, I hear no next, no previous.  
So move down one level again with numpad insert numpad 2.  On my machine, I can't move to the left but I can move to the right from where I am.  If I move to the right enough times, I get to untitled notepad window again.  
Move down once to get back into the Notepad program.  Start moving to the right, I don't think you can move to the left.  If you move enough times, you will be back in the edit field with the word test you wrote awhile ago.
 
The point is that you first moved to the window, then continuing to move down you moved into the window and then moved right object by object until you got back into the edit field.  
 
Experiment and look around.  You may find that by looking around and experimenting, things start to make sense as you conceptualize what you are doing as you move.  
Try moving around using the move left and right commands and moving up and down and then using the move left and right commands.  Note that you can move to a lot of structures.  Some you can move into and some you can't because you are already in them.
 
If you get lost, you can always return to the program window where you started by alt tabbing out of and then alt tabbing until you return to the window. 
 
This demonstration may not explain things technically precisely accurately in terms of definitions.  I'm not sure I know exactly how to explain everything technically accurately.  The point is to experiment and get a concept of what you are doing by experimentation and observation.    
 
This may or may not allow you to understand everything.  But this kind of experimentation, along with working with a good tutorial section that explains object navigation may allow you to understand it.
 
Also, note carefully that if you leave NVDA set to screen review, you can't review the screen accurately much of the time if you intend to move somewhere and then use the standard review commands such as numpad 8 read current line.  You must have NVDA set for object navigation to have review work reliably.  I have said before that most NVDA users don't and won't understand this and that you should automatically be returned to object review when you leave the window you are in.  I still feel strongly about this. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touch cursor support

How is each one invoked?
At 04:03 PM 7/1/2016, you wrote:
>Hi,
>A good example is Windows 10’s Settings app
>(Windows+I) where you do need to use object
>navigation to read descriptions of settings.
>Cheers,
>Joseph
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>From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
>Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:00 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Touch cursor support
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>Joseph Lee wrote:  "If you are using Windows 8,
>8.1 or 10, use of object navigation is essential when using newer style apps."
>
>Joseph, is there any material somewhere that
>gives some discussion or examples of using
>object navigation and the review cursor using some "real world" example?
>
>I have not been able to get my arms around this,
>and it's probably because I'm trying to use it
>"in the wrong place."  I strongly suspect that
>had I known how to use these features the
>step-by-step pizza ordering instructions for the
>Pizza Hut website I was trying to create might
>have been completed.  I had one of those rare
>"throw up my hands and walk away" moments
>because I could not figure out how to get NVDA
>to "play correctly" with the various pop-up
>overlays, etc., and I'm almost certain it can.
>
>Even if you could direct me to either an app or
>a website that's a good sandbox for this undertaking I'd appreciate it.
>
>--
>Brian
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>I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how
>cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.
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Re: opening links within a message

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Did you set default programs for windows 10? Windows 10 seems like you have to do this from it's own default program settings. I had to do this with winamp.

Pete

On 7/1/2016 10:45 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi,
I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an
email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the
time.
Any idea?
Thanks and blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop

Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and,
it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really
allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.

Good luck

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop


I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current
configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the
checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some
changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into
the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA
mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this
dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?

Thanks,
John

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the
Windows logon screen.

This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate
speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.

My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for
your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power
options.

If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so
it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can
do that.
* Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings.
* Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon
and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges).
* If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC
prompt. Press alt y.
If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.

On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure
Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can
get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does
anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?

Thanks,
John
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Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.