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Re: vocaliser issues

Josh Kennedy
 

Jonathan Duddington created ESpeak. But he has been unreachable for 3 or 4 years now. Nobody knows what happened to him. But the ESpeak he created is still around, thankfully. 


Re: some difficulties to navigate advanced tables

Rui Fontes
 

Hello Alexandre!


Follows some answers:


  1. How do I change the sort order in a column?


Click again in the name of the column.



  1. If I am Reading the contente using table navigate commands, nvda Works well for the 2 or 3 first lines. But it seems to get lost when I try to read lines that are in the middle of the table.


With last NVDA Alpha with Python 2.7 and Firefox 69.0.3 (32-bit) I do not have this problem...



  1. If I choose a column and change the sort order, it will take some time to this process. Is it possible to get na advise  from nvda that the process has finished?

If you wait, NVDA will restart reading the page...


Rui Fontes



some difficulties to navigate advanced tables

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi friends.

The following site is in portuguese.

It has a grid with coluns that can be chosen to be sorted.

https://www.fundsexplorer.com.br/ranking

 

My difficulties are:

  1. How do I change the sort order in a column?
  2. If I am Reading the contente using table navigate commands, nvda Works well for the 2 or 3 first lines. But it seems to get lost when I try to read lines that are in the middle of the table.
  3. If I choose a column and change the sort order, it will take some time to this process. Is it possible to get na advise  from nvda that the process has finished?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: markers add-on

Sile
 

Hi, I guess you could make bookmarks from the links you want to keep. You can also plays really important links directly on the desktop as shortcuts.
Sile

On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:21 PM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:

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Re: vocaliser issues

Arlene
 

They do. Whoever created e speak. Made it worth it. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: October 23, 2019 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

they've definitely gotten better

 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 11:28 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

That’s why when I use NVDA. I’m happy with the voices it comes with. They’ve improved over time.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: October 23, 2019 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines.  So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

 

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

 

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

 

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

 

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

 

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

 

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

 

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

 

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

 

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

 

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

 

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

 

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

 

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

 

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

 

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

 

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

 

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

 

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

 

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

 

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

 

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

 

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

 

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

 

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

 

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

 

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: vocaliser issues

molly the blind tech lover
 

they've definitely gotten better ☺️


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 11:28 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

That’s why when I use NVDA. I’m happy with the voices it comes with. They’ve improved over time.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: October 23, 2019 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines.  So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

 

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

 

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

 

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

 

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

 

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

 

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

 

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

 

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

 

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

 

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

 

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

 

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

 

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

 

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

 

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

 

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

 

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

 

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

 

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

 

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

 

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

 

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

 

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

 

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

 

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

 

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: vocaliser issues

Arlene
 

That’s why when I use NVDA. I’m happy with the voices it comes with. They’ve improved over time.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: October 23, 2019 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines.  So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

 

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

 

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

 

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

 

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

 

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

 

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

 

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

 

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

 

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

 

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

 

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

 

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

 

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

 

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

 

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

 

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

 

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

 

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

 

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

 

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

 

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

 

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

 

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

 

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

 

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

 

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: vocaliser issues

Samuel Villa <Saleena81@...>
 

Could you send me a link containing those voices. I do a lot of testing with synths and I'm wondering how well they would work on Windows 7.
Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

Well thats why I use sapi, I do deactivate on feature updates.

However I am glad I didn't lose my activation.

I want sapi 64 bit mainly because while I do have old realspeak solo I heard people saying that 32 bit synths don't stick on 64 bit systems.

And to avoid all the drama involved I decided the easiest and painless way would to buy something with  32 and 64 bit voices.

The code factory stuff aint the same as realspeak, but they will do for the price you pay for the entire pack.



On 24/10/2019 3:29 am, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi.
I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines. So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

Hi.

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.









Re: markers add-on

Michael Munn
 

MBTA app an Adam card place marker last time I checked on the Adams website.

Sent from my Apple Watch

On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:16 PM, Scott Berry <sb356607@...> wrote:

Hey there everyone,


I was wondering if there is a plug-in which I could use to mark my links. I am going back to school and this university has many links I need access to and it would be wonderful if I could mark them.''

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Medical Office Assistant
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Patient Advocate

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markers add-on

Scott Berry
 

Hey there everyone,


I was wondering if there is a plug-in which I could use to mark my links.  I am going back to school and this university has many links I need access to and it would be wonderful if I could mark them.''

--
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Medical Office Assistant
Associates in Allied health
Patient Advocate

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locked Re: big releases for mozilla type products

Nimer Jaber
 

I will be locking this topic shortly. This has nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA. It would be appropriate for the chat list though, and a general computing list.

Thanks.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:49 PM Scott Berry <sb356607@...> wrote:
What is Waterfox?  I haven't heard of this.



On 10/23/2019 3:26 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> Hi.
>
> firefox 70 is out for those that read winaero.
>
> Thunderbird 68.2.0 is out if anyone cares.
>
> Waterfox 2019.10 is out finally, both in classic and modern and
> youtube actually works this time.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: vocaliser issues

molly the blind tech lover
 

I use the Windows One-Core synthesizer. Microsoft Catherine, Kate, I can't remember the exact name. But I am afraid my code factory license is long gone, what with having to do a complete reinstall of Windows twice. I occasionally like to use eSpeak.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

Well thats why I use sapi, I do deactivate on feature updates.

However I am glad I didn't lose my activation.

I want sapi 64 bit mainly because while I do have old realspeak solo I heard people saying that 32 bit synths don't stick on 64 bit systems.

And to avoid all the drama involved I decided the easiest and painless way would to buy something with 32 and 64 bit voices.

The code factory stuff aint the same as realspeak, but they will do for the price you pay for the entire pack.



On 24/10/2019 3:29 am, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi.
I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines. So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

Hi.

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.









locked Re: big releases for mozilla type products

Scott Berry
 

What is Waterfox?  I haven't heard of this.

On 10/23/2019 3:26 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

firefox 70 is out for those that read winaero.

Thunderbird 68.2.0 is out if anyone cares.

Waterfox 2019.10 is out finally, both in classic and modern and youtube actually works this time.



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Re: vocaliser issues

 

Well thats why I use sapi, I do deactivate on feature updates.

However I am glad I didn't lose my activation.

I want sapi 64 bit mainly because while I do have old realspeak solo I heard people saying that 32 bit synths don't stick on 64 bit systems.

And to avoid all the drama involved I decided the easiest and painless way would to buy something with  32 and 64 bit voices.

The code factory stuff aint the same as realspeak, but they will do for the price you pay for the entire pack.

On 24/10/2019 3:29 am, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi.
I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines. So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

Hi.

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.








locked big releases for mozilla type products

 

Hi.

firefox 70 is out for those that read winaero.

Thunderbird 68.2.0 is out if anyone cares.

Waterfox 2019.10 is out finally, both in classic and modern and youtube actually works this time.


Re: NVDA Silent Installation

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Oh right, thank you so much, simple mistake, not sure how I missed that!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 October 2019 15:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Silent Installation

 

Simple mistake on the syntax it should be

 

--install-silent

 

That’s dash dash that’s two dashes at the start not one

 

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 October 2019 13:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Silent Installation

 

Hi all,

 

nvda_2019.2.1.exe -install-silent

 

above is my batch file line to install nvda silently but it doesn’t seem to work and still go through the wizard, anyone have any ideas please?

Is it intended to run NVDA.EXE with this command line from an already installed or portable copy rather than the installer package?

 



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Re: Libreoffice and text highlighting

V Stuart Foote
 

Hi William,

In the document canvas select the text you would like to highlight.

Use F6 key to cycle to the Formatting Toolbar

Use Tab key to move to the Highlight Color dropdown button

Use Enter key to highlight the selected text with the color set for highlight

but if you need to check color, or pick a different color the, use the down cursor to open the color picker

at that point selection is NVDA screen navigation with mouse, on mouse over of each color patch the color name will sound. Click to select, it will apply highlight  to the selected text--and set that color for additional highlighting.

Use F10 to toggle back into the document, or back to the standard menu.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William via Groups.Io <cwwong.pro@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:35 PM
To: NVDA Groups.io mailing list email <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Libreoffice and text highlighting
 
Hi,
According to the following help article,
I could not use NVDA to find the option to highlight selected text.
Could any one help me out?
Thanks,
William




Re: vocaliser issues

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines. So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

Hi.

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.


Re: NVDA Silent Installation

Chris
 

Simple mistake on the syntax it should be

 

--install-silent

 

That’s dash dash that’s two dashes at the start not one

 

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 October 2019 13:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Silent Installation

 

Hi all,

 

nvda_2019.2.1.exe -install-silent

 

above is my batch file line to install nvda silently but it doesn’t seem to work and still go through the wizard, anyone have any ideas please?

Is it intended to run NVDA.EXE with this command line from an already installed or portable copy rather than the installer package?

 



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NVDA Silent Installation

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Hi all,

 

nvda_2019.2.1.exe -install-silent

 

above is my batch file line to install nvda silently but it doesn’t seem to work and still go through the wizard, anyone have any ideas please?

Is it intended to run NVDA.EXE with this command line from an already installed or portable copy rather than the installer package?

 



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