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Re: NVDA keeps on crashing while switching windows

Suhas Dharwad
 

i apologise! i forgot to answer.

yep, i've ran the com registration fixing tool.

yet with no luck.

thanks.

Saludos cordiales, Suhas
lightning McQueen, rápido como un rayo ...


On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 13:20 Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
But did you run the Com Registration Fixing Tool? I asked, now Quentin has
asked, but we're still waiting for an answer.

Luke

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019, help tech accessibility wrote:

> thanks for replying.
> no i haven't still got a solution for this problem.
>
> i'll try to reproduce and will send you the attachment 
>
> thanks.
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:32 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>       Did you get a resolution to this issue?  And did the COM Registration fixing tool help?  I had someone with a similar issue this morning.  I
>       can't reproduce it myself and am waiting to hear back from them with more information.  A couple of suggestions:
> - Restarting the computer itself if you haven't done so lately  
> - The COM Registration fixing tool from the NVDA Tools menu
> - Restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled
> - Set your NVDA log to "Debug" (the option is in NVDA's general settings: NVDA+control+g), then recreate the issue, then find your log in the %temp%
> folder and email it to me (not the group as you can't send attachments)
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:40 PM help tech accessibility <slrdarjit2002@...> wrote:
>       the version of NVDA is 2019.2 
> stable build.
>
> and the windows version is:
>
> Windows 10Ver1903 (64-bit) build 18362.387
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:02 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
>       What version of NVDA do you have? (NVDA menu, help, about)
>       What version of Windows do you have? (Windows+R, winver, enter)
>
>       When did this problem start? Had you done anything right before that, such as
>       install a windows update, or some new software, or update Chrome, or something?
>
>       I know it's an old drum inside of a dead horse that I keep beating, but have
>       you run the NVDA COM Registration Fixing Tool, from the NVDA Tools menu?
>
>       Luke
>
>       On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, help tech accessibility wrote:
>
>       > i have this super duper Bugg,
>       > which doesn't let me do anything on my pc without restarting NVDA every 10 minutes or so.
>       >
>       > for instance, if i'm using Chrome and then i switched to notepad,
>       > then came back to Chrome, NVDA acts so weird.
>       > It hardly speaks anything, and doesn't complete the commands.




Re: Libreoffice and text highlighting

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi, Stuart

Thanks again.

I have pressed enter on the highlight drop down menu,do you know is there any NVDA function that can check whether the hightlight has been applied or not?

I tried pressing the drop down menu by moving mouse curser, and it seemed that I can only find the Gold color.
 


 



V Stuart Foote 於 24/10/2019 22:40 寫道:

William,


After F10 and F6  movement to the "formatting toolbar", and  then Tab advancing onto the Highlight Color control

an enter will make the highlight to to selected text, using the current color (default color is yellow)

a cursor down will open the palette dialog, it will be titled Highlight Color, it is a multi element control Tab advances banetween the controls

it has a combobox list for changing the color palette in use

the default 'standard' color palette is the most useful in general  with  grays on the top row and the columns sequenced Yellows - Reds - Blues in tints and shades 

the picker is a 12 column multi-row palette of color swatches, with mouse over movements each color will sound its labeled name

a mouse click over a color will assign that color pick to highlighting 

if you had a text selection before clicking or opening the picker it will highlight that selection,  if not the cursor will become a  paint bucket and "pour" the highlight on any selection to be made.

Use an escape key to get out of the paint bucket mode and return.   If you cycle F10 to the menu, and a control plus F6 your focus and edit cursor will be back in the document.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William via Groups.Io <cwwong.pro@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Libreoffice and text highlighting
 
Sorry, Stuart,
For got the most important thing. Many thanks for your help.

I finally figure out that, If I maximize the window, tab will bring me to the item.

But If I press down arrow, it seemed that nothing happened.

V Stuart Foote 於 24/10/2019 0:16 寫道:
Hi William,

In the document canvas select the text you would like to highlight.

Use F6 key to cycle to the Formatting Toolbar

Use Tab key to move to the Highlight Color dropdown button

Use Enter key to highlight the selected text with the color set for highlight

but if you need to check color, or pick a different color the, use the down cursor to open the color picker

at that point selection is NVDA screen navigation with mouse, on mouse over of each color patch the color name will sound. Click to select, it will apply highlight  to the selected text--and set that color for additional highlighting.

Use F10 to toggle back into the document, or back to the standard menu.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas



Re: vocaliser issues

Kara Goldfinch
 

Reece Dunn now maintains eSpeak NG.


On 24/10/2019 12:23, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Jonathan Duddington created ESpeak. But he has been unreachable for 3 or 4 years now. Nobody knows what happened to him. But the ESpeak he created is still around, thankfully. 
--

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Certified Expert               
View the list of all NVDA Experts


I'm back

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

The NV Access team have been busy globetrotting lately.  It's been very productive, and I'm pleased to let you know I'm back and just about caught up on correspondence, both to me and on the lists.  If you have written to me, or asked a question on the list you thought I might be able to answer, which hasn't been addressed, please do get in touch.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: issues with synths

 

Yes, both atguys and code factory servers went offline.

When they came back online I had to reactivate again, however I didn't lose my authorisation so thats good.

On that note, they do state that if you don't deactivate your system before an major upgrade or reinstall of the os you will lose a set but you can always ask for a reset unless you are stupid about it and do it to often but there you go.



On 25/10/2019 9:37 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Shaun,

Did you resolve your issue with the Code Factory voices?  In terms of the web site, I can still get to it here: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

I've been in contact with them recently (and they assure me there will be an update to their add-on to work with NVDA 2019.3 when we get closer to releasing that version of NVDA ourselves), so I don't believe they are going anywhere or planning to abandon users any time soon.

If you are still having problems with it, I'd recommend contacting Code Factory directly, as it sounds like a licensing problem - though if the website was down the other day, that was likely the same issue, so hopefully everything is ok again now.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 6:32 PM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi.

Today I decided to play a game with my high quality sapi synths.

However the code factory vocaliser sapi synth just doesn't work, keeps
saying I need to register, however it was working today then stopped
suddenly.

Eloqunce still works, but vocaliser doesn't.

Tried to rereg, but it will not connect.

I am assuming that there are server issues but atguys.com seems to be
down to, and I can't find any mention of vocaliser sapi on the code
factory web page.

I really hope this doesn't become it, I payed good cash for the synth
packs, and I use vocaliser extensively.

I have switched everything to ms david till its all solved but for now
who knos.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: issues with synths

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Shaun,

Did you resolve your issue with the Code Factory voices?  In terms of the web site, I can still get to it here: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

I've been in contact with them recently (and they assure me there will be an update to their add-on to work with NVDA 2019.3 when we get closer to releasing that version of NVDA ourselves), so I don't believe they are going anywhere or planning to abandon users any time soon.

If you are still having problems with it, I'd recommend contacting Code Factory directly, as it sounds like a licensing problem - though if the website was down the other day, that was likely the same issue, so hopefully everything is ok again now.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 6:32 PM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi.

Today I decided to play a game with my high quality sapi synths.

However the code factory vocaliser sapi synth just doesn't work, keeps
saying I need to register, however it was working today then stopped
suddenly.

Eloqunce still works, but vocaliser doesn't.

Tried to rereg, but it will not connect.

I am assuming that there are server issues but atguys.com seems to be
down to, and I can't find any mention of vocaliser sapi on the code
factory web page.

I really hope this doesn't become it, I payed good cash for the synth
packs, and I use vocaliser extensively.

I have switched everything to ms david till its all solved but for now
who knos.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: query for a colleague

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Joe,

For the first one, there isn't a single keystroke, but you can use a combination of keys to do it:

1. Navigate to the start of the table (Press T for instance)
2. Press NVDA+F9 to select the start of where to mark.
3. Press comma (,) to jump to the first thing past the end of the table
4. Press NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select from where you marked in step to, to here, and copy it to the clipboard.

And for the second one, press NVDA+CONTROL+D to open NVDA's document formatting settings, then TAB to "Cell Coordinates and spacebar to check it (or press alt+o to jump to it and toggle it directly), then press ENTER to apply and close settings.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:52 AM Joe Paton <patonplace@...> wrote:
I will pass any help back.
My colleagues request is below.


Hi Everyone

Although I installed NVDA some time ago, I have not used it very much
but have had occasion to do so lately.

Is there an easy  way of selecting a table on a web page? for example,
like F8 in JAWS?

Is there a way to configure NVDA so that it displays the cell reference
in Excel? At the moment I just see "Cell" which is not very helpful.

Thanks

Pele West







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA keeps on crashing while switching windows

Luke Davis
 

But did you run the Com Registration Fixing Tool? I asked, now Quentin has asked, but we're still waiting for an answer.

Luke

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019, help tech accessibility wrote:

thanks for replying.
no i haven't still got a solution for this problem.
i'll try to reproduce and will send you the attachment 
thanks.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:32 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Did you get a resolution to this issue?  And did the COM Registration fixing tool help?  I had someone with a similar issue this morning.  I
can't reproduce it myself and am waiting to hear back from them with more information.  A couple of suggestions:
- Restarting the computer itself if you haven't done so lately  
- The COM Registration fixing tool from the NVDA Tools menu
- Restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled
- Set your NVDA log to "Debug" (the option is in NVDA's general settings: NVDA+control+g), then recreate the issue, then find your log in the %temp%
folder and email it to me (not the group as you can't send attachments)
Regards
Quentin.
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:40 PM help tech accessibility <slrdarjit2002@...> wrote:
the version of NVDA is 2019.2 
stable build.
and the windows version is:
Windows 10Ver1903 (64-bit) build 18362.387
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:02 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
What version of NVDA do you have? (NVDA menu, help, about)
What version of Windows do you have? (Windows+R, winver, enter)

When did this problem start? Had you done anything right before that, such as
install a windows update, or some new software, or update Chrome, or something?

I know it's an old drum inside of a dead horse that I keep beating, but have
you run the NVDA COM Registration Fixing Tool, from the NVDA Tools menu?

Luke

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, help tech accessibility wrote:

> i have this super duper Bugg,
> which doesn't let me do anything on my pc without restarting NVDA every 10 minutes or so.
>
> for instance, if i'm using Chrome and then i switched to notepad,
> then came back to Chrome, NVDA acts so weird.
> It hardly speaks anything, and doesn't complete the commands.


Re: NVDA keeps on crashing while switching windows

Suhas Dharwad
 

thanks for replying.

no i haven't still got a solution for this problem.

i'll try to reproduce and will send you the attachment 

thanks.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:32 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Did you get a resolution to this issue?  And did the COM Registration fixing tool help?  I had someone with a similar issue this morning.  I can't reproduce it myself and am waiting to hear back from them with more information.  A couple of suggestions:

- Restarting the computer itself if you haven't done so lately  
- The COM Registration fixing tool from the NVDA Tools menu
- Restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled
- Set your NVDA log to "Debug" (the option is in NVDA's general settings: NVDA+control+g), then recreate the issue, then find your log in the %temp% folder and email it to me (not the group as you can't send attachments)

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:40 PM help tech accessibility <slrdarjit2002@...> wrote:
the version of NVDA is 
2019.2 
stable build.

and the windows version is:

Windows 10Ver1903 (64-bit) build 18362.387


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:02 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
What version of NVDA do you have? (NVDA menu, help, about)
What version of Windows do you have? (Windows+R, winver, enter)

When did this problem start? Had you done anything right before that, such as
install a windows update, or some new software, or update Chrome, or something?

I know it's an old drum inside of a dead horse that I keep beating, but have
you run the NVDA COM Registration Fixing Tool, from the NVDA Tools menu?

Luke

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, help tech accessibility wrote:

> i have this super duper Bugg,
> which doesn't let me do anything on my pc without restarting NVDA every 10 minutes or so.
>
> for instance, if i'm using Chrome and then i switched to notepad,
> then came back to Chrome, NVDA acts so weird.
> It hardly speaks anything, and doesn't complete the commands.





--
saludos cordiales , Suhas
Lightning Mcqueen rapido como un rayo....



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
saludos cordiales , Suhas
Lightning Mcqueen rapido como un rayo....


Re: Replacing an Input Gesture

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 22 Oct 2019, Suzy wrote:

Although I fixed my mistake, I truly believe removing all available gestures from an existing command should not entirely delete the command.
Nor does it, usually. What version of NVDA are you using?
And what command did you delete the gesture from? I know you said it was alt-F4, but what did you intend alt-F4 to do? Usually that is the windows command to close an application.
It seems irregular to remap that to some NVDA command, but to each her own I guess. But what was the command you assigned or wanted to assign it to, that disappeared after you deleted the gesture?

Luke


Re: NVDA keeps on crashing while switching windows

Quentin Christensen
 

Did you get a resolution to this issue?  And did the COM Registration fixing tool help?  I had someone with a similar issue this morning.  I can't reproduce it myself and am waiting to hear back from them with more information.  A couple of suggestions:

- Restarting the computer itself if you haven't done so lately  
- The COM Registration fixing tool from the NVDA Tools menu
- Restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled
- Set your NVDA log to "Debug" (the option is in NVDA's general settings: NVDA+control+g), then recreate the issue, then find your log in the %temp% folder and email it to me (not the group as you can't send attachments)

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:40 PM help tech accessibility <slrdarjit2002@...> wrote:
the version of NVDA is 
2019.2 
stable build.

and the windows version is:

Windows 10Ver1903 (64-bit) build 18362.387


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:02 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
What version of NVDA do you have? (NVDA menu, help, about)
What version of Windows do you have? (Windows+R, winver, enter)

When did this problem start? Had you done anything right before that, such as
install a windows update, or some new software, or update Chrome, or something?

I know it's an old drum inside of a dead horse that I keep beating, but have
you run the NVDA COM Registration Fixing Tool, from the NVDA Tools menu?

Luke

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, help tech accessibility wrote:

> i have this super duper Bugg,
> which doesn't let me do anything on my pc without restarting NVDA every 10 minutes or so.
>
> for instance, if i'm using Chrome and then i switched to notepad,
> then came back to Chrome, NVDA acts so weird.
> It hardly speaks anything, and doesn't complete the commands.





--
saludos cordiales , Suhas
Lightning Mcqueen rapido como un rayo....



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Important: if you are using Windows 10 May 2019 Update and experience unwanted startup issue, try Kb4522355

 

Hi all,

 

KB4522355 came out for Windows 10 May 2019 Update (Version 1903) today as an optional update. One of the most notable fix is the unwanted startup problem several of you have reported to NV Access and Microsoft. Please try this cumulative update and see if the issue is truly resolved.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Libreoffice and text highlighting

V Stuart Foote
 

William,


After F10 and F6  movement to the "formatting toolbar", and  then Tab advancing onto the Highlight Color control

an enter will make the highlight to to selected text, using the current color (default color is yellow)

a cursor down will open the palette dialog, it will be titled Highlight Color, it is a multi element control Tab advances banetween the controls

it has a combobox list for changing the color palette in use

the default 'standard' color palette is the most useful in general  with  grays on the top row and the columns sequenced Yellows - Reds - Blues in tints and shades 

the picker is a 12 column multi-row palette of color swatches, with mouse over movements each color will sound its labeled name

a mouse click over a color will assign that color pick to highlighting 

if you had a text selection before clicking or opening the picker it will highlight that selection,  if not the cursor will become a  paint bucket and "pour" the highlight on any selection to be made.

Use an escape key to get out of the paint bucket mode and return.   If you cycle F10 to the menu, and a control plus F6 your focus and edit cursor will be back in the document.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William via Groups.Io <cwwong.pro@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Libreoffice and text highlighting
 
Sorry, Stuart,
For got the most important thing. Many thanks for your help.

I finally figure out that, If I maximize the window, tab will bring me to the item.

But If I press down arrow, it seemed that nothing happened.

V Stuart Foote 於 24/10/2019 0:16 寫道:
Hi William,

In the document canvas select the text you would like to highlight.

Use F6 key to cycle to the Formatting Toolbar

Use Tab key to move to the Highlight Color dropdown button

Use Enter key to highlight the selected text with the color set for highlight

but if you need to check color, or pick a different color the, use the down cursor to open the color picker

at that point selection is NVDA screen navigation with mouse, on mouse over of each color patch the color name will sound. Click to select, it will apply highlight  to the selected text--and set that color for additional highlighting.

Use F10 to toggle back into the document, or back to the standard menu.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas

_._,_._,_


Re: Libreoffice and text highlighting

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Sorry, Stuart,
For got the most important thing. Many thanks for your help.

I finally figure out that, If I maximize the window, tab will bring me to the item.

But If I press down arrow, it seemed that nothing happened.

V Stuart Foote 於 24/10/2019 0:16 寫道:

Hi William,

In the document canvas select the text you would like to highlight.

Use F6 key to cycle to the Formatting Toolbar

Use Tab key to move to the Highlight Color dropdown button

Use Enter key to highlight the selected text with the color set for highlight

but if you need to check color, or pick a different color the, use the down cursor to open the color picker

at that point selection is NVDA screen navigation with mouse, on mouse over of each color patch the color name will sound. Click to select, it will apply highlight  to the selected text--and set that color for additional highlighting.

Use F10 to toggle back into the document, or back to the standard menu.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William via Groups.Io <cwwong.pro@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:35 PM
To: NVDA Groups.io mailing list email <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Libreoffice and text highlighting
 
Hi,
According to the following help article,
I could not use NVDA to find the option to highlight selected text.
Could any one help me out?
Thanks,
William





Re: Libreoffice and text highlighting

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Well, those that related to NVDA of libreoffice?
I could not find the item with tab, but if I use scan mode of OBJ pad, I was able to find the item.
 

V Stuart Foote 於 24/10/2019 0:16 寫道:

Hi William,

In the document canvas select the text you would like to highlight.

Use F6 key to cycle to the Formatting Toolbar

Use Tab key to move to the Highlight Color dropdown button

Use Enter key to highlight the selected text with the color set for highlight

but if you need to check color, or pick a different color the, use the down cursor to open the color picker

at that point selection is NVDA screen navigation with mouse, on mouse over of each color patch the color name will sound. Click to select, it will apply highlight  to the selected text--and set that color for additional highlighting.

Use F10 to toggle back into the document, or back to the standard menu.

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William via Groups.Io <cwwong.pro@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:35 PM
To: NVDA Groups.io mailing list email <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Libreoffice and text highlighting
 
Hi,
According to the following help article,
I could not use NVDA to find the option to highlight selected text.
Could any one help me out?
Thanks,
William





Re: vocaliser issues

Josh Kennedy
 

Jonathan Duddington created ESpeak. But he has been unreachable for 3 or 4 years now. Nobody knows what happened to him. But the ESpeak he created is still around, thankfully. 


Re: some difficulties to navigate advanced tables

Rui Fontes
 

Hello Alexandre!


Follows some answers:


  1. How do I change the sort order in a column?


Click again in the name of the column.



  1. If I am Reading the contente using table navigate commands, nvda Works well for the 2 or 3 first lines. But it seems to get lost when I try to read lines that are in the middle of the table.


With last NVDA Alpha with Python 2.7 and Firefox 69.0.3 (32-bit) I do not have this problem...



  1. If I choose a column and change the sort order, it will take some time to this process. Is it possible to get na advise  from nvda that the process has finished?

If you wait, NVDA will restart reading the page...


Rui Fontes



some difficulties to navigate advanced tables

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi friends.

The following site is in portuguese.

It has a grid with coluns that can be chosen to be sorted.

https://www.fundsexplorer.com.br/ranking

 

My difficulties are:

  1. How do I change the sort order in a column?
  2. If I am Reading the contente using table navigate commands, nvda Works well for the 2 or 3 first lines. But it seems to get lost when I try to read lines that are in the middle of the table.
  3. If I choose a column and change the sort order, it will take some time to this process. Is it possible to get na advise  from nvda that the process has finished?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: markers add-on

Sile
 

Hi, I guess you could make bookmarks from the links you want to keep. You can also plays really important links directly on the desktop as shortcuts.
Sile

On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:21 PM, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:

MBTA app an Adam card place marker last time I checked on the Adams website.

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On Oct 23, 2019, at 8:16 PM, Scott Berry <sb356607@...> wrote:

Hey there everyone,


I was wondering if there is a plug-in which I could use to mark my links. I am going back to school and this university has many links I need access to and it would be wonderful if I could mark them.''

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Re: vocaliser issues

Arlene
 

They do. Whoever created e speak. Made it worth it. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: October 23, 2019 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

they've definitely gotten better

 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 11:28 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

That’s why when I use NVDA. I’m happy with the voices it comes with. They’ve improved over time.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: October 23, 2019 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

I used to use the code factory vocalizer eloquence add-on. But there were issues with the licensing. Every time my computer or NVDA received updates the add-on would display a message telling me to reactivate my license or something along those lines.  So I switched to one of the Microsoft voices and it works for me.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] vocaliser issues

 

Hi.

 

I said I would reply to the subject about the downtime with atguys and code factory servers.

 

I assume this will work for eloquence to, reactivating on the same id because of a downed connection and non varification on the server will not mean you lose your seat.

 

If you are made inactive you need to reenter your licence key again but otherwise things will continue to work as expected.

 

It did take most of a 24 hour period for a responce, but there was a responce none the less.

 

Of course if thats not the case, you should contact code factory with your key and id so they can reset it.

 

I am happy I havn't lost my ids though as that would be a bit annoying.

 

This is one of the downsides of these online activations, the system goes down or the company goes bank rupt and your purchiced products are dead with that company to.

 

I don't use any of my high quality synths for anything really important like screen reading fortunately but I do use them for such things as book reading and most importantly gaming.

 

Knowing the potential issue with online servers going down though, unless you really like it, I wouldn't use anything bar espeak or a free synth for nvda just in case it dropps.

 

You would need to use narator in win10 to get speech to switch synths.

 

That does prompt the question, I think we need a key combo, for if this happens and your system is in an unusable state, though I am not sure how to handle this, that a key be assigned to reset nvda's speech preffs either that, or if there is a way for nvda to check status of activations in synth addons, and if those servers drop or something else, nvda will autoswitch to espeak.

 

This does also bring another potential pitfall into the equation.

 

This is a laptop, however, if I am offline for any reason, there is a chance my speech synth will not work.

 

If I am offline and travling the likelyhood I will need to game with headsets is unlikely, but its worth noting on the go, that if you drop the net, your synth will eventually check itself and see if it is active or not and if its unable, it will deactivate itself.

 

I realise its a necessary evil to stop cracking of the licence and for control, but it does make me wander what would happen if I am away for an extended period of time.

 

With everyone on win10, the ms voices will be fine, but I'd hate to know what would happen on other windows os types.

 

I actually had that happen with some software for security on a couple friend's computers.

 

In 1 case he was able to stop it loading and upgrade the licence.

 

But in the other case it locked his system and wouldn't allow it to start until he got a new licence.

 

The net was down at the time, and he couldn't get round it.

 

A reformat made that issue go away, but he decided to use something else after that.

 

My point is, using comercial software that phones home periodically if you have an unstable connection or are away for long periods may not be a good idea.

 

Sadly, unless you use older software there isn't that sort of thing going on.

 

Happily I am happy with espeak for initial work and could use it for normal tasks.

 

However, maybe maybe there should be an updated list of free or comercial sapi voices which don't phone home for things especially if something like this happens.

 

Down times and crashes happen, and in this cases I notified people and they were fixed smartly, but what if it was more than a day or 2 and you needed that software to work.