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Re: lengthy reading in Braille

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Just throwing an idea here, but shouldn't NVDA be able to reach Windows to tell it "no, keep running, we're still doing stuff" when pressing the Braille panning keys?  I guess most of us don't notice, because this is triggered by input devices (keyboards or mouses) but a Braille display just doesn't count.  However, I would think NVDA could do that fairly easily.  Just a guess here,

something worth implementing IMO.


Vincent

On 10/25/2019 9:48 PM, David Csercsics wrote:

 

Yes, I’ve hit this as well. Just make sure the power plan is high performance, or that nothing can cause the computer to sleep. If the screen saver or sleep activates, then this would occur. The bigger problem is that you cannot get braille on UAC or log on screens reliably, and that braille support is fairly crippled without the braille extender add-on for most braille displays as compared to other screen readers. However I’m a primary braille user, though I never use braille input because the translator lag makes touch typing quicker, even though I have to pick up the keyboard to do it. Having to install add-ons for braille seems very silly indeed, as I’d think for those that have displays since a lot of us prefer braille to speech anyway, that seems like a basic feature. I’d say for serious braille reading though, braille Extender is a required install. The key commands are a bit odd compared to other screen readers, but they work well. Incidentally the same problem happens with braille on iOS. If you stop moving your display or something for a few seconds it’ll disconnect. I’m not sure what the best way should be to handle this by default though.


Re: Using USB headphones with NVDA:

Sarah k Alawami
 

Sure. That's the beauty of these cards. You can set your default to your internal card then hit nvda control s to get to the synth dialogue and choose what card you want to the synth to come through. If it is not control nvda s try shift control nvda s. I'm not on my windows computer but I hope that helps a bit.

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On 25 Oct 2019, at 13:06, Angel wrote:

I am a new user of NVDA.  I love it so far.  I was previously using Jaws.  At one time while I was using Jaws, I employed USB head phones.  To hear Jaws through them.  While, at the same time, listening to my favorite music through my speakers.  Those USB head phones have long since bitten the dust.  I was wanting to purchase another set of USB head phones.  That I might listen to NVDA.  While listening to my music at the same time through my speakers.  Is this possible using NVDA? 


Re: NVDA, my sound card, and frustration

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

I have a surface go. I experienced this issue when it was new, but the sound  would disappear entirely. Several software updates fixed this issue. However, it seems to be common with surface devices.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 4:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, my sound card, and frustration

 

Okay so I can’t claim this is just a NVDA issue because it seems to be both a jaws and NVDA issue since they’re both installed on my computer and both provide similar results. I sent this to the Jaws list as well so hopefully someone will have something.

 

My computer is only a few months old, replacing another just like still under warranty that crashed, which was bought in early 2018 when it was new. It is a Surface Book Pro, running windows 10 pro, 8 gigs of ram, I don’t remember what sound card off the top of my head.

 

I have a set of Bose Comfort Bluetooth headphones which can either be plugged in or used Bluetooth but plugged in makes them sound a little better and lengthens the battery time on them. When I have them plugged after an hour or so my screen reader will quit speaking. I unplug them and my computer begins speaking through the speakers. I plug them back in and it’s like the computer doesn’t realize that they are there and continues speaking through the laptop speakers. I have ruled out the headphones being the issue by trying to plug another pair in. At this point I am either stuck moving to Bluetooth or restarting the computer to get it to speak through the headphones.

 

My guess is that it’s probably a hardware issue but has anyone ever experienced this with a screen reader and if so what was your solution?

 


Re: Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I downloaded waterfox classic yesterday and really like it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 12:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

I use waterfox classic and will probably continue to use it till I die, though with the addon enhancements, I am seriously thinking of trying waterfox current or firefox with the extra addons and the like installed to see if now that everyone seems to be using the new mozilla framework if I get better access with the quantom branch.

In thunderbird, my access has not changed, though I do not use addons so don't need to fiddle with the addon interfaces.



On 26/10/2019 7:57 am, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


Am I the only one using Firefox, the mozilla NVDA addon and
experiencing issues when pressing NVDA + A to read the address bar?
I've become quite fond of this shortcut but I always get "Address not
found". Before reporting to the addon developer I would like to
check. It might be something else entirely, if no one has the same
issue.


Thanks,


Vincent




.


Re: Using USB headphones with NVDA:

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, just catching up with mail, but yes You can do this without any problem. You will just have to tell Nvda to use the usb head set, and don't forget to save the settings.

On 25/10/2019 21:06, Angel wrote:

I am a new user of NVDA.  I love it so far.  I was previously using Jaws.  At one time while I was using Jaws, I employed USB head phones. To hear Jaws through them. While, at the same time, listening to my favorite music through my speakers.  Those USB head phones have long since bitten the dust.  I was wanting to purchase another set of USB head phones.  That I might listen to NVDA.  While listening to my music at the same time through my speakers.  Is this possible using NVDA?


Re: audio ducking?

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, Nvda shift and d will take you threw the ducking options.

On 25/10/2019 19:44, Dean Martineau wrote:
This is pretty elementary: I thought NVDA had a feature akin to the JAWS Audio Ducking feature, where audio content sound can be lowered so that synthesizer speech can be heard. I’m not finding the option in 2019.2. Please enlighten me.


Re: Using USB headphones with NVDA:

David Csercsics
 

Yes you can tell NVDA to output through a specific card. And you can tell your music playing program to use a specific card as well, and then all other sounds would go to the Windows default. The options for this are in the synthesizer settings for NVDA.


Using USB headphones with NVDA:

Angel
 


I am a new user of NVDA.  I love it so far.  I was previously using Jaws.  At one time while I was using Jaws, I employed USB head phones.  To hear Jaws through them.  While, at the same time, listening to my favorite music through my speakers.  Those USB head phones have long since bitten the dust.  I was wanting to purchase another set of USB head phones.  That I might listen to NVDA.  While listening to my music at the same time through my speakers.  Is this possible using NVDA? 


NVDA, my sound card, and frustration

Phillip Gross
 

Okay so I can’t claim this is just a NVDA issue because it seems to be both a jaws and NVDA issue since they’re both installed on my computer and both provide similar results. I sent this to the Jaws list as well so hopefully someone will have something.

 

My computer is only a few months old, replacing another just like still under warranty that crashed, which was bought in early 2018 when it was new. It is a Surface Book Pro, running windows 10 pro, 8 gigs of ram, I don’t remember what sound card off the top of my head.

 

I have a set of Bose Comfort Bluetooth headphones which can either be plugged in or used Bluetooth but plugged in makes them sound a little better and lengthens the battery time on them. When I have them plugged after an hour or so my screen reader will quit speaking. I unplug them and my computer begins speaking through the speakers. I plug them back in and it’s like the computer doesn’t realize that they are there and continues speaking through the laptop speakers. I have ruled out the headphones being the issue by trying to plug another pair in. At this point I am either stuck moving to Bluetooth or restarting the computer to get it to speak through the headphones.

 

My guess is that it’s probably a hardware issue but has anyone ever experienced this with a screen reader and if so what was your solution?

 


Re: NVDA Configuration File

Roger Stewart
 

It should if you saved them in the symbol pronunciation of NVDA.\
Roger

On 10/25/2019 2:58 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

Adding to this, does either making a portable copy or the nvda.ini
file also copy over custom key labels? I've got a machine that I've
customized how certain keys are pronounced and i'd like to port that
to other machines.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/25/19, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
Yes, you can use a portable copy to make an installed copy. I have done
it a couple times.
Roger










On 10/25/2019 9:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
You can create a portable copy of nvda with all of your settings and
run it from the flash drive on the new computer. I think but i'm not
sure, if there is a way to turn the portable into an installed copy, I
cannot remember at this point in time but good luck.

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Our telegram <https://t.me/tffppodcast> channel is also a good place
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we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

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On 25 Oct 2019, at 7:33, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via
Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

Is there a file that I can copy from NVDA which is all the
settings e.g. the key echo and startup options etc?

This is so that if I put it on another machine, I can quickly
reset it to the way that I like it?




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Re: NVDA Configuration File

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Adding to this, does either making a portable copy or the nvda.ini
file also copy over custom key labels? I've got a machine that I've
customized how certain keys are pronounced and i'd like to port that
to other machines.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 10/25/19, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
Yes, you can use a portable copy to make an installed copy. I have done
it a couple times.
Roger










On 10/25/2019 9:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

You can create a portable copy of nvda with all of your settings and
run it from the flash drive on the new computer. I think but i'm not
sure, if there is a way to turn the portable into an installed copy, I
cannot remember at this point in time but good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
<http://www.tffppodcast.com> This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp>

Our telegram <https://t.me/tffppodcast> channel is also a good place
for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord <https://discord.gg/fr7MaVK> is where you will know when
we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
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On 25 Oct 2019, at 7:33, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via
Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

Is there a file that I can copy from NVDA which is all the
settings e.g. the key echo and startup options etc?

This is so that if I put it on another machine, I can quickly
reset it to the way that I like it?




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Re: Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

 

Thank god I use waterfox classic which is using the tried and tested accessible engine then.

Maybe firefox/ waterfox current with the quantum engine is not ready for me to bother with just yet.



On 26/10/2019 8:08 am, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

You are not the only one experiencing the same  not reading URL

 

 

From: Vincent Le Goff
Sent: 25 October 2019 19:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Am I the only one using Firefox, the mozilla NVDA addon and experiencing

issues when pressing NVDA + A to read the address bar?  I've become

quite fond of this shortcut but I always get "Address not found". 

Before reporting to the addon developer I would like to check.  It might

be something else entirely, if no one has the same issue.

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Vincent

 

 

 

 


Re: Replacing an Input Gesture

 

Well that does bring up a small thing, about off the grid, this is a small note in passing but its a book, forgotten who wrote it, but its a good read.

go on chat if you want more info.



On 26/10/2019 8:07 am, Suzy wrote:
I would gladly do what you asked right now, but I am preparing to go on vacation. My specific goal for the next few days is to be almost completely off the grid. So' guess who will have a week's worth of list mail to go through, when she returns.
I will do it, when I return, whether or not someone else has.
So long for now. I am sending this reply and shutting down.
Suzy
  


Re: Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

 

I use waterfox classic and will probably continue to use it till I die, though with the addon enhancements, I am seriously thinking of trying waterfox current or firefox with the extra addons and the like installed to see if now that everyone seems to be using the new mozilla framework if I get better access with the quantom branch.

In thunderbird, my access has not changed, though I do not use addons so don't need to fiddle with the addon interfaces.

On 26/10/2019 7:57 am, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


Am I the only one using Firefox, the mozilla NVDA addon and experiencing issues when pressing NVDA + A to read the address bar?  I've become quite fond of this shortcut but I always get "Address not found".  Before reporting to the addon developer I would like to check.  It might be something else entirely, if no one has the same issue.


Thanks,


Vincent



.


Re: lengthy reading in Braille

David Csercsics
 

 

Yes, I’ve hit this as well. Just make sure the power plan is high performance, or that nothing can cause the computer to sleep. If the screen saver or sleep activates, then this would occur. The bigger problem is that you cannot get braille on UAC or log on screens reliably, and that braille support is fairly crippled without the braille extender add-on for most braille displays as compared to other screen readers. However I’m a primary braille user, though I never use braille input because the translator lag makes touch typing quicker, even though I have to pick up the keyboard to do it. Having to install add-ons for braille seems very silly indeed, as I’d think for those that have displays since a lot of us prefer braille to speech anyway, that seems like a basic feature. I’d say for serious braille reading though, braille Extender is a required install. The key commands are a bit odd compared to other screen readers, but they work well. Incidentally the same problem happens with braille on iOS. If you stop moving your display or something for a few seconds it’ll disconnect. I’m not sure what the best way should be to handle this by default though.


lengthy reading in Braille

Christopher Kchao
 

Hi,
I was wondering if there might be a better way of doing extensive reading with NVDA and a Braille display that would not cause the whole system to think it's idle. I was recently doing some rather lengthy reading from within the browser, using nothing but the panning keys on my display and not otherwise directly interacting with the system. While I was glad that speech did not make itself heard during this process, I was unexpectedly greeted with the Windows lock screen mid-sentence.
I realize that this situation might be somewhat atypical or low-incidence, but I'm nonetheless hoping there's a work-around out there. The issue as I describe it has the potential to be fairly disruptive to those for whom Braille is their primary means of accessing the screen. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.


Re: audio ducking?

Chris
 

Its nvda+ctrl+S

 

From: Dean Martineau
Sent: 25 October 2019 20:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audio ducking?

 

This is pretty elementary: I thought NVDA had a feature akin to the JAWS Audio Ducking feature, where audio content sound can be lowered so that synthesizer speech can be heard. I’m not finding the option in 2019.2.  Please enlighten me.

 

 

 


Re: Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

Chris
 

You are not the only one experiencing the same  not reading URL

 

 

From: Vincent Le Goff
Sent: 25 October 2019 19:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Firefox addon and shortcut to read address

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Am I the only one using Firefox, the mozilla NVDA addon and experiencing

issues when pressing NVDA + A to read the address bar?  I've become

quite fond of this shortcut but I always get "Address not found". 

Before reporting to the addon developer I would like to check.  It might

be something else entirely, if no one has the same issue.

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Vincent

 

 

 

 


Re: Replacing an Input Gesture

Suzy
 

I would gladly do what you asked right now, but I am preparing to go on vacation. My specific goal for the next few days is to be almost completely off the grid. So' guess who will have a week's worth of list mail to go through, when she returns.
I will do it, when I return, whether or not someone else has.
So long for now. I am sending this reply and shutting down.
Suzy
  


Re: audio ducking?

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

In NVDA preferences, go to speech, and select change synthesizer. You can also press NVDA+shift+d to cycle through the options.

Thanks.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 12:01 PM Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote:

This is pretty elementary: I thought NVDA had a feature akin to the JAWS Audio Ducking feature, where audio content sound can be lowered so that synthesizer speech can be heard. I’m not finding the option in 2019.2.  Please enlighten me.

 

 



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