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Re: Chromeium edge release date announced.

Gene
 

The new Edge is based on Chrome.  But, considering that Chrome has most of the Windows market, I believe its about 75 percent or a little more, Microsoft will have to introduce some important and striking new features to entice people away from what they are using. 
 
Internet Explorer used to be dominant but Microsoft didn't protect its dominance and I doubt it can do much to increase its share.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ame
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chromeium edge release date announced.

I’m a Chrome girl.  Chrome is way faster than edge.  So, you think the new Edge  is gonna be better?  I know it’s slow and clumsy right now and you don’t have some of the options with it that you have with Chrome.  What’s gonna change?


Re: Chromeium edge release date announced.

Samuel Villa <Saleena81@...>
 

There was a message about new voices coming with this new version. Do you know specifically what languages are coming with it?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Chromeium edge release date announced.

 

Microsoft just announced a tentative release date for the new Chromium Edge browser. And, holy batman, I can't wait to replace the old with the new for good! No more beta's! the target date is Jan. 15, as said here.

They just released the last beta. I hope you all download it and give feedback. Makes sense, too, because they announced their new FireFox looking logo the other day too.

Edge will be far better than what it is now. Seriously. Give it a spin, and report feedback, before the final release.


Re: Other Windows that overlay part of the screen was: [nvda] Advertising Windows that overlay part of the screen

Oriana
 

If the Skype launcher shortcut is not in your startup folders, or if it replaces itself every time you run Skype, you may want to use a program such as Piriform's CCleaner to disable unwanted applications from running at startup without having to uninstall them. (CCleaner can also delete all temp files, check the registry for leftover entries, and it contains an uninstall programs page that is a little faster than the Windows one. However, I cannot vouch for the accessibility of CCleaner.)


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 8:49 PM Samuel Villa <Saleena81@...> wrote:
I am having this issue as well. I don't even run Skype for Buisness. But it opens at startup anyway. How can I disable that?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Other Windows that overlay part of the screen was: [nvda] Advertising Windows that overlay part of the screen

"I've already got a situation where

the window appears every time I reboot my computer.  This would not seem browser related.  When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it.  How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is there some other way to dismiss?

"


I have this problem as well.

Windows open at startup that are not in the systray or taskbar. Alt tab sometimes moves focus away.  Windows key+d to move to the desktop sometimes works too.

Some utilities just show up as windows on startup. I find I need to disable them from task manager.


This is not screen reader specific. The title and other info isn't
presented to any screen reader in some cases.

How would I create a generally usable log if I wanted to report the problem?


Bob


On 2019-10-30 9:32 a.m., Christopher Gray wrote:
> I'm not sure how thils answers my question. I've already got a situation where
> the window appears every time I reboot my computer.  This would not seem
> browser related.  When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but
> NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it.  How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is
> there some other way to dismiss?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed,
> 30 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel via Groups.Io wrote:
>
>> I find that on the rare occasion I get these that very often hitting ESC closes them.
>>
>> That being said, using an ad blocker such as uBlock Origin or similar, or a browser like Brave virtually eliminates these from ever being displayed to begin with.
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362
>>
>> *The color of truth is grey.*
>>
>> ~ André Gide
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Overlays in chrome

Sile
 

Hello


I recently had to log into my verizon account and the sign-in window appeared as an overlay.  I could open it or close it, but could not reach the email or password boxes.  Is there a way around this?


--Sile


Re: Other Windows that overlay part of the screen was: [nvda] Advertising Windows that overlay part of the screen

Samuel Villa <Saleena81@...>
 

I am having this issue as well. I don't even run Skype for Buisness. But it opens at startup anyway. How can I disable that?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Other Windows that overlay part of the screen was: [nvda] Advertising Windows that overlay part of the screen

"I've already got a situation where

the window appears every time I reboot my computer. This would not seem browser related. When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it. How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is there some other way to dismiss?

"


I have this problem as well.

Windows open at startup that are not in the systray or taskbar. Alt tab sometimes moves focus away.  Windows key+d to move to the desktop sometimes works too.

Some utilities just show up as windows on startup. I find I need to disable them from task manager.


This is not screen reader specific. The title and other info isn't
presented to any screen reader in some cases.

How would I create a generally usable log if I wanted to report the problem?


Bob


On 2019-10-30 9:32 a.m., Christopher Gray wrote:
I'm not sure how thils answers my question. I've already got a situation where
the window appears every time I reboot my computer. This would not seem
browser related. When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but
NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it. How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is
there some other way to dismiss?

Thanks.


Chris

On Wed,
30 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel via Groups.Io wrote:

I find that on the rare occasion I get these that very often hitting ESC closes them.

That being said, using an ad blocker such as uBlock Origin or similar, or a browser like Brave virtually eliminates these from ever being displayed to begin with.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

*The color of truth is grey.*

~ André Gide



****************************************
Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in
your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this.

----------------------------------------
Christopher Gray, Executive Director
Missouri Council of the Blind

5453 Chippewa
St. Louis, MO 63109
Phone: (314) 832-7172
Toll-free: (800) 342-5632
Fax: (314) 832-7796

Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz?
Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don.
Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific
Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls.
Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to
Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast.
You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts!
Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.



Re: Chromeium edge release date announced.

Ame
 

I’m a Chrome girl.  Chrome is way faster than edge.  So, you think the new Edge  is gonna be better?  I know it’s slow and clumsy right now and you don’t have some of the options with it that you have with Chrome.  What’s gonna change?


Re: Chromeium edge release date announced.

David Csercsics
 

Do you know if it has a keyboard shortcut for reader mode? I didn’t see one. Also don’t see an option to just open a blank page in new tabs. Did I miss something?


Chromeium edge release date announced.

 

Microsoft just announced a tentative release date for the new Chromium Edge browser. And, holy batman, I can't wait to replace the old with the new for good! No more beta's! the target date is Jan. 15, as said here.

They just released the last beta. I hope you all download it and give feedback. Makes sense, too, because they announced their new FireFox looking logo the other day too.

Edge will be far better than what it is now. Seriously. Give it a spin, and report feedback, before the final release.


Re: Reset NVDA Input Gestures

molly the blind tech lover
 

There is a way to remove the input gestures you don't want anymore. For example, if you wish to create a gesture that will allow NVDA to tell you when the next alarm is, there is an option to remove the gesture after it is created. This is just one example, as I created an input gesture for the clock add-on, allowing NVDA to announce when the next alarm is. But you can create gestures for other things as well. Then if you wish, they can be removed.
Hope this helps ☺

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sascha Cowley via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 3:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reset NVDA Input Gestures

Hi all,

Is there a way to reset some or all of NVDA's input gestures to their default?


Regards,
Sascha


Re: Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

David Csercsics
 

So are you saying the command keys only work with the HumanWare protocol? That's good to know.


Re: Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

Cristóbal
 

While it works for me, the six command keys don't seem to be supported.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

I use this all the time. I just plug it in via USB and it works. Did you install the USB drivers from humanware?


Re: Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

David Csercsics
 

Mine is set to HumanWare protocol, because as far as I know, automatic detection doesn't work with OpenBraille. But you should be able to set the driver to HumanWare brailliant bi in NVDA manually, and it should work. OpenBraille lags a bit, which is why I don't use it. But I can understand why you'd want to, if you also intend to use the Brailliant with narrator, since narrator didn't seem to work unless I enabled openbraille.


Re: Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

Daniel Gartmann
 

In fact, I didn't install the USB driver since it should work without them when using the Open Braille protocol. But, I guess I am missing something then.

What is your display set to?

Daniel


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> På vegne af David Csercsics
Sendt: 4. november 2019 22:18
Til: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Emne: Re: [nvda] Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

I use this all the time. I just plug it in via USB and it works. Did you install the USB drivers from humanware?


Re: Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

David Csercsics
 

I use this all the time. I just plug it in via USB and it works. Did you install the USB drivers from humanware?


Using HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA

Daniel Gartmann
 

Hi,

I tried withouth success to use the BI 40 from HumanWare with the 2019.2.1 version of NVDA.

I tried connecting with the "Auto" option in the Braille settings via USB.

Is anybody out there using the HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 with NVDA and how?

Since I am using a device that is not my own, I can't do much testing myself. But while I have it for preparing a JAWS training, I couldn't resist the temptation to try it out with NVDA.

Thanks for your input.

Daniel


Re: Reset NVDA Input Gestures

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


In the current version of nvda you can remove gestures if you want to then go back and add a new one in its place unless it does not let you.


The alfa version has this feature built into it but will not been seen until 2019.3 when it comes out.


Gene nz


On 4/11/2019 9:24 pm, Sascha Cowley via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi all,

Is there a way to reset some or all of NVDA's input gestures to their default?


Regards,
Sascha




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Re: Other Windows that overlay part of the screen was: [nvda] Advertising Windows that overlay part of the screen

Oriana
 

Unfortunately, as those windows are probably working as the designer intended, I suspect logs of each program won't help. A screenshot of the screen, perhaps with NVDA's speech viewer visible, and of course your description of the issue, may be your only way to report to each inaccessible developer.

Link to documentation on NVDA's Speech Viewer:

There is one other issue: in OP's case, the ads seemed to be associated with a program they desired to use, but when that isn't necessarily true - especially with ads at startup - my instinct is that you might have a virus. I would encourage the use of a boot-loading virus scanner in circumstances when you really have no idea where the ads/pop-ups are coming from. All of the top free virus scanners are adware, by the way. You may have to try multiple in order to find one that doesn't cause this issue.

I may be able to provide more information/direction if you send me a screenshot of the whole desktop when a window pops up.

- Oriana

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 12:53 PM Robert Logue <bobcat11@...> wrote:
"I've already got a situation where

the window appears every time I reboot my computer.  This would not seem
browser related.  When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but
NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it.  How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is
there some other way to dismiss?

"


I have this problem as well.

Windows open at startup that are not in the systray or taskbar. Alt tab
sometimes moves focus away.  Windows key+d to move to the desktop
sometimes works too.

Some utilities just show up as windows on startup. I find I need to
disable them from task manager.


This is not screen reader specific. The title and other info isn't
presented to any screen reader in some cases.

How would I create a generally usable log if I wanted to report the problem?


Bob


On 2019-10-30 9:32 a.m., Christopher Gray wrote:
> I'm not sure how thils answers my question. I've already got a situation where
> the window appears every time I reboot my computer.  This would not seem
> browser related.  When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but
> NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it.  How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is
> there some other way to dismiss?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed,
> 30 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel via Groups.Io wrote:
>
>> I find that on the rare occasion I get these that very often hitting ESC closes them.
>>
>> That being said, using an ad blocker such as uBlock Origin or similar, or a browser like Brave virtually eliminates these from ever being displayed to begin with.
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362
>>
>> *The color of truth is grey.*
>>
>> ~ André Gide
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ****************************************
> Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in
> your Will or Estate Plan?  Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Christopher Gray, Executive Director
> Missouri Council of the Blind
>
> 5453 Chippewa
> St. Louis, MO 63109
> Phone:     (314) 832-7172
> Toll-free: (800) 342-5632
> Fax:       (314) 832-7796
>
> Like Jazz?  Want to know more about jazz?
> Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don.
> Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific
> Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls.
> Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to
> Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast.
> You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts!
> Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
>
>
>




Other Windows that overlay part of the screen was: [nvda] Advertising Windows that overlay part of the screen

Robert Logue
 

"I've already got a situation where

the window appears every time I reboot my computer. This would not seem
browser related. When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but
NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it. How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is
there some other way to dismiss?

"


I have this problem as well.

Windows open at startup that are not in the systray or taskbar. Alt tab sometimes moves focus away.  Windows key+d to move to the desktop sometimes works too.

Some utilities just show up as windows on startup. I find I need to disable them from task manager.


This is not screen reader specific. The title and other info isn't presented to any screen reader in some cases.

How would I create a generally usable log if I wanted to report the problem?


Bob

On 2019-10-30 9:32 a.m., Christopher Gray wrote:
I'm not sure how thils answers my question. I've already got a situation where
the window appears every time I reboot my computer. This would not seem
browser related. When the ad window appears, it blocks part of my screen but
NVDA cannot find it so I can dismiss it. How can Iget NVDA to find it? Or is
there some other way to dismiss?

Thanks.


Chris

On Wed,
30 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel via Groups.Io wrote:

I find that on the rare occasion I get these that very often hitting ESC closes them.

That being said, using an ad blocker such as uBlock Origin or similar, or a browser like Brave virtually eliminates these from ever being displayed to begin with.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

*The color of truth is grey.*

~ André Gide



****************************************
Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in
your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this.

----------------------------------------
Christopher Gray, Executive Director
Missouri Council of the Blind

5453 Chippewa
St. Louis, MO 63109
Phone: (314) 832-7172
Toll-free: (800) 342-5632
Fax: (314) 832-7796

Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz?
Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don.
Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific
Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls.
Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to
Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast.
You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts!
Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.


A friendly reminder from an add-on developer: plese provide details if you run into problems with an add-on or two

 

Hi everyone,

Over the last few days, I have received several reports of one of my add-ons (specifically, Windows 10 App Essentials) not working for some of you. Whenever I get reports like this, I try my best to think about what could have gone wrong and attempt to provide a solution.

Part of the reason why I couldn’t respond to you all on a timely basis (besides due to a speech tournament) is the fact that some reports did not include details I needed. Specifically, I need the following information when you report add-on problems:

  • NVDA version you’ve got.
  • Add-on version in use.
  • For certain add-ons, Windows release you are using (and for Windows 10 App Essentials, specific Windows 10 release you are using, because just saying “Windows 10” will not cut anymore).
  • Detailed steps to reproduce the problem, including keyboard shortcuts you tried to use.
  • What was expected versus what actually happened.
  • If it is a synthesizer problem, which one you were using when the problem occurred.
  • For an app issue, which app, version, and problem steps.
  • A debug log fragment (to view log in debug mode, restart NVDA with debug logging enabled and press NVDA+F1 to open log viewer).

Please include as much info as possible the next time you run into add-on problems. As for Windows 10 App Essentials issue reported by Ollie, I’ll investigate once details are received. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Microsoft Neural Voices with NVDA?

Devin Prater
 

Unless Microsoft understands, somehow, that Windows OneCore voices aren’t the best thing since peanut butter, we pretty much won’t get them in a good form, offline.

On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Casey Mathews <csm120@...> wrote:

Just wondering how feasible it would be to get the new Voices from Microsoft working with NVDA? These voices are currently previewing with the Chromium based edge dev and Canary browsers. Microsoft seems to be improving these voices rapidly and I’d like to use them with NVDA. While they have an API for developers it appears they want money to use these voices. I’m not a developer though so could be wrong about this?
Any thoughts?
Thanks
 
Casey
 

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