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Re: Directing Speech to an External Sound Card

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Press insert+control+s to open synthesizer

Tab

Arrow down to the sound card you wish to use and enter

You’re done

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing Speech to an External Sound Card

 

Recently discussed (several times, in fact) at length:  Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

 

Re: NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Cordelia,

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any
closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder
List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want or type the initial letter of the folder
name.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after
giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the
list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia
Scharpf
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Hi:

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages
arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer
such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?
Thanks.

Cordelia

locked Re: the opera browser

Jaffar Sidek
 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

Re: NVDA announcing new opened windows

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

You can set up Windows 10 to do this.  In the sound schemes area, but it does get quite annoying in my view.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA announcing new opened windows

 

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

Hello all,

 

Is there an NVDA setting which will have NVDA make a sound when a new window is opened? For example, it would be helpful if, when launching Firefox,  NVDA would make a sound when the window is open. Right now, I wait a few seconds and alt-tab around to see if a new window has opened. Window-Eyes used to do this and it was a great feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet

Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Gene
 

You are replying in the wrong thread.  I don’t know why you are having the problem and you said you tried more than one browser.  Chrome updates automatically.
 
Of course strange things happen, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem.  You could try another screen-reader just to see if you get different results.
 
Gene
-----  Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with
 
I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
i'm on the latest version.
I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
change something in NVDA?

On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
> I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
> uninstalling it.
> \
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Tubbs
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
> can't interact with
>
> I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.
>
> On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
>> I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
>> there so many “skip navigation links”?
>>
>> ******
>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>> you!
>>
>>
>> From: Sile via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
>> NVDA can't interact with
>>
>> Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
>> me.
>> It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
>> it’s related to JavaScript.
>>
>> I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
>> understand what’s going on.
>>
>> Sile
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?
>>>
>>> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of
>>>> the links and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see
>>>> that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
>>>> I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
>>>> that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
>>>> to me.  In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
>>>> that says skip navigation links.  You really only need one but since
>>>> someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
>>>> implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
>>>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
>>>> information, we can see them.  But just going to the site and
>>>> looking around doesn't show me any.
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>    Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>    I just visited the following website:
>>>>
>>>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/
>>>>
>>>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
>>>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
>>>>    each time I've encountered issues.
>>>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
>>>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
>>>> whether
>>>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
>>>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
>>>> links
>>>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
>>>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
>>>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
>>>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
>>>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...
>>>>
>>>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Joshua Tubbs
 

I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
i'm on the latest version.
I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
change something in NVDA?

On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
uninstalling it.
\


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua
Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
























Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up uninstalling it.
\

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.


















Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Joshua Tubbs
 

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are there so
many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s
related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of the
links
and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see that the site
has
a login place, and you didn't say if you did so. I didn't look enough
to
see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but
the
entire home page appears accessible to me. In addition, between each of
the
navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links. You really
only
need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link,
that
strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even
if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information,
we can see them. But just going to the site and looking around doesn't
show
me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.


















Re: NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Cordelia,

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any
closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder
List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after
giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the
list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia
Scharpf
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Hi:

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages
arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer
such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?
Thanks.

Cordelia

NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi:

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages
arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer
such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?
Thanks.

Cordelia

locked Re: the opera browser

Arlene
 

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

locked Re: the opera browser

Arlene
 

Hi, Is it like Nord for when you watch shows in another country or is it  just a browser for coding?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

hello, I'm using opera already for a long time but there is another option that is very nice, try it!
it is vpn, buildin of opera it works fine also with nvda, no difference about accessibility!
cheers
paul otter

Op 8-11-2019 om 09:28 schreef Jaffar Sidek:

HI all.  I actually have replaced Chrome with Opera as my default browser and have no cause to regret my action.  It is a fast, efficient browser with a real effective ad blocker that gets rid of ads that litter articles you want to read.  While chrome promotes those ads, Opera blocks them, allowing you to get a smoother, uninterupted read of articles that interest you, which also incidentally makes copying and pasting of articles or snippets much easier.  Years ago, Opera was hardly accessible.  Now, i think it beats the standard mainstream browsers any time.  They have, indeed, come a very long way.  Cheers!

On 11/8/2019 2:32 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well opera still updates and it is chrome based

On 11/8/2019 1:14 AM, Arlene wrote:

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Directing Speech to an External Sound Card

 

Recently discussed (several times, in fact) at length:  Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

Directing Speech to an External Sound Card

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

I am relatively new to NVDA.

Is there a way of directing speech to an external sound card? I have
achieved this in JAWS and Window-Eyes.

Thanks


Pele West

locked Re: the opera browser

P. Otter
 

hello, I'm using opera already for a long time but there is another option that is very nice, try it!
it is vpn, buildin of opera it works fine also with nvda, no difference about accessibility!
cheers
paul otter


Op 8-11-2019 om 09:28 schreef Jaffar Sidek:

HI all.  I actually have replaced Chrome with Opera as my default browser and have no cause to regret my action.  It is a fast, efficient browser with a real effective ad blocker that gets rid of ads that litter articles you want to read.  While chrome promotes those ads, Opera blocks them, allowing you to get a smoother, uninterupted read of articles that interest you, which also incidentally makes copying and pasting of articles or snippets much easier.  Years ago, Opera was hardly accessible.  Now, i think it beats the standard mainstream browsers any time.  They have, indeed, come a very long way.  Cheers!

On 11/8/2019 2:32 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well opera still updates and it is chrome based

On 11/8/2019 1:14 AM, Arlene wrote:

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Chris Mullins
 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

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Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Quentin

Thanks for the tip re the asterisk in Notepad files.  I’d noticed it but didn’t know what it meant.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 7 November 2019 22:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Just chiming in to give the visual perspective:

In Notepad, when pressing control+s:

- If the document has not been saved before, the "Save as" dialog appears and NVDA reports that.

- If the document has been saved previously, Notepad saves it, and NVDA does not say anything (unless you have speak command keys on, in which case NVDA reports "control+s").  Notepad does put an asterisk at the start of the filename in the title bar when a document has been edited.  This disappears when the document is saved.  NVDA does read this asterisk when reading the title bar.

 

In Word 365, when pressing control+s:

- If the document has not been saved before, a "Save this file" window appears and NVDA reports that.

- If the document has been saved previously and "AutoSave" is enabled, nothing happens and NVDA does not report anything (again unless speak command keys is on to report "control+s").  With AutoSave on, the document is saved every time any key is pressed so control+s is not needed.

- If the document has been saved previously and "AutoSave" is not enabled, the visual response is again subtle.  When you open a document, or save it, the title bar notes "Filename - Saved".  Once you change it, the "Saved" disappears.  This gets reinstated when you save it.  There is currently a known issue, I believe with the way Office is exposing the title bar.  See: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10150

 

Similar to announcing cut, copied or pasted, reporting when a document is saved is not something we would be inclined to add to NVDA UNLESS we could be sure a document had been saved.  I can see the usefulness of the functionality for some users (it reminds me of how when teaching email, people often want confirmation that the email has been sent, but many email clients don't give that).  For this reason, I would recommend it might be useful functionality for an add-on.  Possibly Damien Garwood, developer of the ClipSpeak add-on, might be interested in adding it.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:14 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I checked, and the settings you are discussing are checked by default.  So people should hear this message in general.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

It should be spoken and if it isn't without changing NVDA settings, the problem should be corrected. 

 

Perhaps this is a problem using NVDA in Windows 10.  The message is spoken in Windows 7. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 1:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi

 

If it is the message he wants to hear even though it is not spoken when in note pad and do the alt key + f4 key and get the message do you want to save which is not spoken.

 

he can do the following in nvdas settings under simple review cursor make sure it is checked and make sure simple review mode is checked.

 

If i want to hear the message when it comes up and says cancel save etc and it is not spoken out which does not worry me I can use object navigation to hear it in this case it is the nvda key + 6 on the numeric keypad then use nvda key + 4 tto go back to where the buttons are and save that way.

 

Some of the material that is not read out can be accessed with object navigation like this example.

 

If a document is already saved I do not need to hear it has been saved as I know it has been.

 

Gene nz

 

On 8/11/2019 7:40 am, Gene wrote:

Window-eyes says that because it is told by the developers, to say that word when that key combination is pressed.  it isn't analyzing an action by the word processor or text editor to know if a document was saved.  It is just saying the word.  That is bad design and Window-eyes probably says other things because the screen-reader is programmed to do so just because a certain key combination is pressed. 

 

Frankly, you are worrying excessively about almost nothing.  As I said, if you issue the save command twice, it is almost 100 percent certain that the document has been saved.  And to emphasize the point, all this time, you were saving documents and relying on Window-eyes to tell you that they were saved when actually, all it was doing was saying the word saved because it was programmed to when you pressed that combination.  But that shows how reliably your documents were being saved. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

FYI: In Window-Eyes when pressing the control-s command it does say “save”. In NVDA the alt-f4 command is helpful. Another thought that occured to me is to go to the file name in the subdirectory and check the date and time last saved, especially if i want to continue editing the document.

 

Listening for His shout!

Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS

 

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locked Re: the opera browser

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

It seems to work well with Opera.

 

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From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

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By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are there so many “skip navigation links”?

 

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From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

 

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me. It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s related to JavaScript.

 

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to understand what’s going on.

 

Sile

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

>

> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

>

> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

>

>

>

>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of the links

>> and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see that the site has

>> a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.  I didn't look enough to

>> see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the

>> entire home page appears accessible to me.  In addition, between each of the

>> navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links.  You really only

>> need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that

>> strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if

>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

>>

>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information,

>> we can see them.  But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show

>> me any.

>>

>> Gene

>> ----- Original Message -----

>>

>>    Hi all,

>>

>>    I just visited the following website:

>>

>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/

>>

>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of

>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and

>>    each time I've encountered issues.

>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs

>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether

>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,

>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links

>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse

>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where

>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and

>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information

>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...

>>

>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.

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Re: Nvda and products Eset antivirus are already in order

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi quentin,

Nvda now really works with Eset.

Here is an information from support in the Czech Republic.

colleagues inform me that their readers to test machines are working, you need to have installed HIPS module in version 1374 (verifiable section updates) and import settings in the appendix (in the Settings - Import).

I send you the file, that may be imported into the products Eset.


Jarek
Dne 08.11.2019 v 9:45 Quentin Christensen napsal(a):

Hi Jarek,

Does Eset work with NVDA now?  I had someone ask (elsewhere) about it, and when I approached Eset, they had no idea and no interest in looking into it.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 7:11 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
Hello group Nvda,

Some months ago I wrote, that Eset antivirus doesn't work in Nvda.

I would like to inform you, that it's already in older.

It is necessary have in Eset installed a module HIP, it is a Screen Config

If any from you is an user of product Eset, do visit support of Eset.


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Jarek






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