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Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Luke Davis
 

This conversation seems to be conflating the speech viewer, and speech history.

The speech viewer is available from the tools menu of NVDA, and shows everything that has been spoken in a constantly updated floating window.

For everyday things, the Speech History add-on is far more useful.
With it, you can go back, one message at a time, through whatever NVDA has spoken, and copy a given message to the clipboard if necessary.

Read more at https://addons.nvda-project.org/./addons/speech_history.en.html

Luke

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019, Gene wrote:

I think the name is speech viewer.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
Huh, really? Maybe it's called something else because it doesn't show up
in the user guide under that name. You're not thinking of the speech
viewer under tools by chance?
On 12/3/2019 18:59, Gene wrote:
I haven't used it but it is a part of NVDA.  Others will have to
discuss it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 5:06 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

Oh, they're probably still on the screen when they get interrupted,
unless they disappear after a certain amount of time. Some do I imagine,
but I'll bet others don't, e.g. something that's asking if you want
notifications from a site. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "speech
history". So far as I can tell it's not part of standard NVDA anyway.


On 12/3/2019 14:20, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've
looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be
heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I
wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.


On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
attention to the choices and commands.
I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken.
If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* leochick78@gmail.com <mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
help page?

Thanks for any help,

Sarah


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Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Gene
 

I think the name is speech viewer.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

Huh, really? Maybe it's called something else because it doesn't show up
in the user guide under that name. You're not thinking of the speech
viewer under tools by chance?


On 12/3/2019 18:59, Gene wrote:
> I haven't used it but it is a part of NVDA.  Others will have to
> discuss it.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 5:06 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
>
> Oh, they're probably still on the screen when they get interrupted,
> unless they disappear after a certain amount of time. Some do I imagine,
> but I'll bet others don't, e.g. something that's asking if you want
> notifications from a site. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "speech
> history". So far as I can tell it's not part of standard NVDA anyway.
>
>
> On 12/3/2019 14:20, Gene wrote:
> > I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've
> > looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be
> > heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I
> > wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
> >
> > To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
> > interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
> > having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
> > that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
> > loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.
> >
> >
> > On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
> > > What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
> > > kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
> > > browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
> > > don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
> > > like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
> > > letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
> > > attention to the choices and commands.
> > > I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken.
> > > If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
> > > don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
> > > commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
> > > Gene
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* leochick78@... <mailto:leochick78@...>
> <mailto:leochick78@...>
> > <mailto:leochick78@...>
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
> > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > > *Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
> > >
> > > How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
> > > save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
> > > help page?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help,
> > >
> > > Sarah
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Alt-shift-a will jump to these buttons. Jaws will not read the text with
ins-b, but with the touchCursor you can read it.

Marten

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 23:18:32 -0600 "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:

Huh, really? Maybe it's called something else because it doesn't show up
in the user guide under that name. You're not thinking of the speech
viewer under tools by chance?


On 12/3/2019 18:59, Gene wrote:
I haven't used it but it is a part of NVDA.  Others will have to
discuss it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 5:06 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

Oh, they're probably still on the screen when they get interrupted,
unless they disappear after a certain amount of time. Some do I imagine,
but I'll bet others don't, e.g. something that's asking if you want
notifications from a site. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "speech
history". So far as I can tell it's not part of standard NVDA anyway.


On 12/3/2019 14:20, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've
looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be
heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I
wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.


On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
attention to the choices and commands.
I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken.
If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* leochick78@gmail.com <mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
help page?

Thanks for any help,

Sarah



Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

John Isige
 

Huh, really? Maybe it's called something else because it doesn't show up
in the user guide under that name. You're not thinking of the speech
viewer under tools by chance?

On 12/3/2019 18:59, Gene wrote:
I haven't used it but it is a part of NVDA.  Others will have to
discuss it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 5:06 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

Oh, they're probably still on the screen when they get interrupted,
unless they disappear after a certain amount of time. Some do I imagine,
but I'll bet others don't, e.g. something that's asking if you want
notifications from a site. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "speech
history". So far as I can tell it's not part of standard NVDA anyway.


On 12/3/2019 14:20, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've
looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be
heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I
wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.


On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
attention to the choices and commands.
I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken.
If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* leochick78@gmail.com <mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
help page?

Thanks for any help,

Sarah



Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

yes. Sorry for bottom posting. I am new to this. I hope I was able to help you all with this. NVDA  rocks. I was a Jaws user for years, but now this my only screen reader


Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Gene
 

You bottom posted so I don't know how many people will see your message.  Here it is:
alt n sometimes works for me. I use chrome Yes it does i use that command all the time
End of message.
 
Are you saying that if you hear a message such as asking you to accept alerts or some other such message that alt n places you in the message using Chrome?  I've never seen that command discussed outside of Internet Explorer.  If it works, that would be good to know.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages






On Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 7:58 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Are you talking about in Internet Explorer?  That is the information bar and doesn't apply to Chrome or Fireffox.  I don't know if it applies to the soon to be replaced Edge.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

alt n sometimes works for me. I use chrome


Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 






On Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 7:58 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Are you talking about in Internet Explorer?  That is the information bar and doesn't apply to Chrome or Fireffox.  I don't know if it applies to the soon to be replaced Edge.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

alt n sometimes works for me. I use chrome


Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Gene
 

I haven't used it but it is a part of NVDA.  Others will have to discuss it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

Oh, they're probably still on the screen when they get interrupted,
unless they disappear after a certain amount of time. Some do I imagine,
but I'll bet others don't, e.g. something that's asking if you want
notifications from a site. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "speech
history". So far as I can tell it's not part of standard NVDA anyway.


On 12/3/2019 14:20, Gene wrote:
> I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've
> looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be
> heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I
> wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
>
> To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
> interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
> having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
> that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
> loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.
>
>
> On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
> > What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
> > kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
> > browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
> > don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
> > like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
> > letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
> > attention to the choices and commands.
> > I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken.
> > If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
> > don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
> > commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* leochick78@... <mailto:leochick78@...>
> <mailto:leochick78@...>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
> >
> > How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
> > save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
> > help page?
> >
> > Thanks for any help,
> >
> > Sarah
> >
>
>
>



Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Gene
 

Are you talking about in Internet Explorer?  That is the information bar and doesn't apply to Chrome or Fireffox.  I don't know if it applies to the soon to be replaced Edge.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

alt n sometimes works for me. I use chrome


Re: Donating via FB campaign

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your support!  Unfortunately at this time, donating directly through Facebook is only available for charities registered in a handful of countries.  NV Access is registered in Australia and reading https://www.facebook.com/help/1251484118194936 confirms Australia is not yet on the list.  I don't know what facebook's rollout plans for this feature are so I can't give you a possible timeline of when it might be available.  In the meantime, your best option for donating is via https://www.nvaccess.org/support-us/#donation-support - we use PayPal because they're well known and have low fees compared to most methods. You don't need a PayPal account to donate however, you can use the system with a credit card without logging in to a PayPal account.  There are also bank transfer details on the page, but please check the international transfer fees with your bank first as they tend to eat up quite a large proportion of most transfers.  (I appreciate those current donation options likely won't fit with being able to donate directly through Facebook - we'll certainly look at it again when it becomes available to Australian charities).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:43 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Clerified that I was talking about Facebook donations, not regular donations.]

Each month, on my author page via Facebook, I run a campaign to donate to a non-profit. My most successful was the one where I was giving to, we need diverse books. At the start of 2020, I'd like to run a campaign for NV Access. But, when I look for a non-profit to donate to, NV Access isn't there at all. Are their any plans to add yourselves to the Facebook donation pool in the future?



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Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

John Isige
 

Oh, they're probably still on the screen when they get interrupted,
unless they disappear after a certain amount of time. Some do I imagine,
but I'll bet others don't, e.g. something that's asking if you want
notifications from a site. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "speech
history". So far as I can tell it's not part of standard NVDA anyway.

On 12/3/2019 14:20, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've
looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be
heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I
wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.


On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
attention to the choices and commands.
I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken.
If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* leochick78@gmail.com <mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
<mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
help page?

Thanks for any help,

Sarah


Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

alt n sometimes works for me. I use chrome


Re: accessing embedded video links in Power point slides

Quentin Christensen
 

If you are able to share the file with me personally offlist (I won't share it further), I can have a look and see what I can learn from it - as well as being in the middle of writing the "Microsoft PowerPoint with NVDA" training material, I am also filing lots of issues (or confirming existing issues) in both our own issue tracker - https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and with Microsoft.

During this process, while I can work my way through all the features of the software, it's always good to get some real world examples like yours which demonstrate the interesting ways those features are used.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:11 PM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:
thanks for the inputs Quentin. for now i'll simply have to make do
with whatever is available-juggle around a bit; figure out the best
way to get it going. ultimately though, i'll look at creating my own
presentation in Powerr Point with the same content and videos. since
it is my first time using all this overload of information, it's
rather overwhelming.
i've been given various workarounds by other friends using PPT with
media info. maybe i will try and work with those as well.
Best,
Payal


On 12/3/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Payal,
>
> There are several different ways of inserting videos.  Depending on how it
> was inserted, PowerPoint treats it differently when running the
> presentation.  To be honest, from what you've described I'm not exactly
> sure how they created it.  If you can get it to work though, that's good :)
>
> Linking to other powerpoint files from within one file is not something I
> would generally try to do.  If it works, I guess that's one way of doing
> things, but it seems messy.
>
> Copying things out of PowerPoint can be done in a couple of ways depending
> on what you need.
>
> If you go to Outline view (alt+w, p, o) you can select all (control+a) then
> copy (control+c), move to Word and paste it (control+v).  It won't
> necessarily paste everything, but in general, it should copy most titles,
> and possibly some content (again, PowerPoint is not very consistent, and it
> depends on the content).
>
> You could also move to the top of your presentation, and on the first
> slide, select all, copy and paste into Word, come back, press page down,
> repeat.  Graphics don't always copy nicely, but text is often ok.
>
> If what you really want is a set of notes to work off when presenting, you
> can use F6 to jump between sections until you get to the notes section,
> type what you want for each slide, and then when you run the slideshow,
> press CONTROL+SHIFT+S to toggle between NVDA reading the slide content, and
> the speaker notes.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:15 PM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:
>
>> hi Quentin,
>> here is my response to the questions you've asked. thought i'd break
>> them up into two parts.
>> Q: When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the
>> slide, or do you mean an embedded video?  When you activate a link it
>> will open your browser to the specified URL.  An embedded video has a
>> preview of the video (a still image, similar to that shown on
>> thumbnails in Youtube etc) with a triangle play button), when you
>> activate it, the video plays there in the slideshow without opening
>> another program.
>> P: There is no real text link, only some image and text saying video.
>> when coppied on to a word doc, it says hyperlink, but, no real URL. i
>> am not sure what that would be ccalled. it is however, not an external
>> source, but links to a folder that has all the relevant videos. i was
>> told it links there and plays.
>> essentially, it is an entire presentation made by sighted folk at my
>> work place that is used for training. i am the first blind person
>> attempting to use it. it contains two different PPTs for two different
>> programmes we run. also, it has other training material we access from
>> within the whole thing.
>> Q: Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
>> encountering.  To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it
>> - NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER.  Out of curiosity,
>> since you mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with
>> Jaws as well?  (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works
>> fine with Jaws, it could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link
>> - if it doesn't work any better with Jaws then it's more likely to be
>> PowerPoint not exposing it correctly).
>> P: I think what you have said about the problem with accessing links
>> is exactly what i'm having trouble with. however, i noticed that when
>> the PPT is in slide mode, where more specifically, i activate the edit
>> mode by pressing enter when in the specific slide, the link appears
>> alongside the video. arrow down to it, choosing the open hyperlink
>> option in the applications menu, voila! the video began playing.
>> i was told that this option cannot be used when making a presentation,
>> since it is not visually appealing or as good as it is in the
>> presentation mode.
>> the presentation mode won't show me a link,and when pressing enter
>> there brings a prompt saying-no pointer available; choose a pointer.
>> back to the application menu, but this time, all the pointer options
>> do nothing.
>> JAWS did nothing different either. in fact, NVDA allowed me to see the
>> link; JAWS didn't. that might also be due to the old version of JAWS i
>> have installed on my laptop.
>> also, could you tell me how can i copy the contents of the slides, so
>> i have it in a word doc to refer as notes rather than opepning the PPT
>> eacj time? i did try the universal copy paste command, but strangely
>> nothing showed up.
>> this  is definitely a deterrent in being able to run presentations
>> visually for sighted folk when training. i hope we find a resolution
>> to it soon enough.
>> thanks for the help.
>> Best,
>> Payal
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> > When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the
>> slide,
>> > or do you mean an embedded video?  When you activate a link it will
>> > open
>> > your browser to the specified URL.  An embedded video has a preview of
>> the
>> > video (a still image, similar to that shown on thumbnails in Youtube
>> > etc)
>> > with a triangle play button), when you activate it, the video plays
>> > there
>> > in the slideshow without opening another program.
>> >
>> > While running the slideshow, activating embedded videos should work ok.
>> > Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
>> > encountering.  To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it -
>> > NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER.  Out of curiosity, since
>> > you
>> > mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with Jaws as well?
>> > (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works fine with Jaws, it
>> > could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link - if it doesn't work
>> any
>> > better with Jaws then it's more likely to be PowerPoint not exposing it
>> > correctly).
>> >
>> > Re obscured, that is usually reported at design time (ie when you open
>> the
>> > file in PowerPoint but haven't pressed F5 to run the slideshow). and
>> means
>> > that one placeholder is covering another on the slide.  It may not mean
>> the
>> > contents of each aren't visible - if you have a one line title, but
>> expand
>> > the size of the placeholder to cover the whole slide, it won't actually
>> > hide any other content but it will announce that it is covering it (and
>> > that the other content is obscured).  Overlapping placeholders can also
>> be
>> > used for visual effect, although in general, when creating, it is
>> > safest
>> to
>> > try to avoid overlapping unless you are sure of what you are doing.
>> >
>> > If you want to activate a link within a placeholder at design time, you
>> can
>> > move to it, then open the context menu and select "Open link".
>> >
>> > We do have an issue for the problem with links while running slideshows
>> > here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7288  Feel free to add
>> > any
>> > extra comments on that (if you do, the issue is still present in the
>> latest
>> > alpha).
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Quentin.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:02 AM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> hi,
>> >> i am working with a PPT with several slides which have not only
>> >> graphics as part of the content of a slide, but also links to videos.
>> >> however, i am unable to access the links(which don't show up as a link
>> >> there) .
>> >> i have tried everything  but have had no success. when checking using
>> >> insert+F1, the message very clearly said there were hyperlinks as part
>> >> of the content.
>> >> to test that theory, i did copy the content of the slide to a word doc
>> >> and it shows a link as well.
>> >> i am using the latest version of NVDA and have tried it with one of
>> >> the earlier versions of JAWS 18  installed on my Windows 10 laptop.
>> >> the office version is 2016.
>> >> the message when focusing on the video in the slide is: video
>> >> obscured. also, i saw a message about access to the links being
>> >> blocked. now i don't know which key combination brought that one on.
>> >> after all that mishmash of information, i would be eternally grateful
>> >> to anyone who can help me get to the video links.
>> >> it is critical, since those are part of the training content for work
>> >> i
>> >> do.
>> >> thanks for any possible help.
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Quentin Christensen
>> > Training and Support Manager
>> >
>> > Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> > Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> > Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> > User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> > Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Where I can find the latest version of Winamp?

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi gene,

I have version of Nvda 2019.2.1 and it's the latest version.


Jarek
Dne 03.12.2019 v 18:32 Gene napsal(a):

I just checked and the add-on is in the stable add-ons section of the site.  Since it isn't in the legacy add-ons section, that may mean that it is compatible with the current NVDA.  others may comment who know a lot more about that.  You may want to try the earlier Winamp to see if the add-on works but you may want to wait for other comments.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where I can find the latest version of Winamp?

At the bottom of the page for this add-on it says, Last edited Sat Jun 3 03:33:13 2017
If that means what it appears to mean, it means the add-on hasn't been revised and may not work with the new version of NVDA.  Others will, I hope, comment.
 
There is nothing in the description to say what it is compatible with.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where I can find the latest version of Winamp?

I don't know.  Others may say if the add-on works in that version of Winamp.  Also, it may be that the add-on isn't compatible with the version of NVDA you are using.  I haven't heard the add=-on discussed to any extent.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Where I can find the latest version of Winamp?

Hi Gene, thank you.

I have downloaded and installed Winamp 5.8 and I have downloaded also an Extended Winamp for Nvda. But it seems that the addon Extended Winamp does not work.

What can I do, for it could work?

Jarek
Dne 03.12.2019 v 16:25 Gene napsal(a):
From reports I've seen of those using the Beta, it is stable and many people are using it.  Since you've already downloaded it, I think you'll be satisfied with it.  We'll see what others say.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 8:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] Where I can find the latest version of Winamp?

Hello group,

I have downloaded the Extended Winamp Nvda addon, and I would like
download a new version of Winamp.

Could you advice, please, where I can find it?

I found beta of Winamp 5.8, but I would like to download a stabile version.

Rigards:


--
Jarek




Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Gene
 

I'm not sure if you can see them again.  Every now and then, I've looked around but I often haven't found them.  I wonder if they can be heard in speech history.  If speech is interrupted by new speech, I wonder if everything that would have been spoken is in speech history.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.


On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
> What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
> kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
> browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
> don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
> like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
> letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
> attention to the choices and commands.
> I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken. 
> If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
> don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
> commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* leochick78@... <mailto:leochick78@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
>
> How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
> save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
> help page?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Sarah
>



Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

John Isige
 

To be fair, it's not that simple. A lot of times for me, alerts get
interrupted by some other web event, and i only get part of them. So
having a way to access them would be pretty handy. Suppose for example
that a page is loading. An alert pops up, but then the page finishes
loading and NVDA begins reading the page. There goes the alert message.

On 12/3/2019 10:49, Gene wrote:
What browser are you using?  It is the browser that displays these
kinds of alerts in certain places, whether they originate from the
browser or the web page.  If you let the entire message speak and
don't interrupt it, you should hear choices with commands for them
like allow, alt a don't allow, alt d.  I made up those choices and
letters but I make sure to listen to all speech and pay very close
attention to the choices and commands.
I'm not sure if and how you see these things after they have spoken. 
If an unfamiliar message occurs, unless you know it is of no interest,
don't stop it and pay very close attention to see if any choices and
commands are given if the message is that kind of message.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* leochick78@gmail.com <mailto:leochick78@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:39 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to
save this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat
help page?

Thanks for any help,

Sarah


Re: Track Changes, The NVDA Manual?

 

As Joseph said, switch to Browse mode, then hit A to cycle through all annotations. The elements list is best for reading comments. I have yet to find a good keyboard shortcut to delete comments though. Microsoft's track changes article helps a lot but I feel as if I am doing too much navigating and not enough action is being taken.

It would help if you added some stuff in the quick access bar, at the very top, or bottom, of the ribbon.


Donating via FB campaign

 
Edited

Each month, on my author page via Facebook, I run a campaign to donate to a non-profit. My most successful was the one where I was giving to, we need diverse books. At the start of 2020, I'd like to run a campaign for NV Access. But, when I look for a non-profit to donate to, NV Access isn't there at all. Are their any plans to add yourselves to the Facebook donation pool in the future?


Re: Track Changes, The NVDA Manual?

 

Hi,
The fastest way to move through annotations like comments and track changes is by pressing letter A (for annotations) and Shift+A to move backward (in browse mode).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 11:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Track Changes, The NVDA Manual?

Hi NVDA,

I hope someone can simplify this enough to help me feel more competent.

I have a word document that contains comments or track changes.

If I open the attachment, have protected mode turned off, will the following steps allow me to read the document and added comments together?
1. Control-home to get to top of document.
2. The insert key plus spacebar to get browse mode?
3. Then, press the insert key and f7 at the same time to reveal the comments and the document?

Here is the manual explanation:
All comments for the document, along with other tracked changes, can also be listed in the NVDA Elements List when selecting Annotations as the type.

Thanks for the help in advance!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Track Changes, The NVDA Manual?

David Russell
 

Hi NVDA,

I hope someone can simplify this enough to help me feel more competent.

I have a word document that contains comments or track changes.

If I open the attachment, have protected mode turned off, will the
following steps allow me to read the document and added comments
together?
1. Control-home to get to top of document.
2. The insert key plus spacebar to get browse mode?
3. Then, press the insert key and f7 at the same time to reveal the
comments and the document?

Here is the manual explanation:
All comments for the document, along with other tracked changes, can
also be listed in the NVDA Elements List when selecting Annotations as
the type.

Thanks for the help in advance!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com

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