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Re: 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, not sure if my message are kinda confusing but, I really appreciate of your help.
So, what I did in order to copy it from clipboard is by pressing nvda or caps lock plus numpad 5 and hit several times of the numpad 5 and that is the time will close the panel and pasted it to particular editor

On 12/11/2019 6:16 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Also you can press tab to find the list of categories.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 4:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

windows key dot then select what you want to do then just hit enter on the one You want to use and hit ESC that is it hope it helps.

On 10/12/2019 01:23, Robert Mendoza wrote:
HI, Molly and others


Emojis panel works fine and perfect. However, I could not able to copy
it.Maybe someone here could give info on how to get and use

On 12/9/2019 10:56 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I like the emoji panel ☺

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nikola
Jovic
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 8:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

For emoticons, the addon helps to insert them without remembering
each simbol. As for emoji, if you use Windows 10, there is something
called the emoji panel. To access it, you use windows plus . period,
and pick the one you want to insert either by choosing a category, or
just by searching for an emoji. Your recently used simbols will
always be at the top.

On 12/9/19, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Thanks but, my question is how will gonna use Emoticon

let say you wanting to pick from the list. Or Do we have to use key
command in order to pick of our choice

and from their we could easily copy and paste to particular editor.

On 12/9/2019 9:14 PM, Nikola Jovic wrote:
It's not. Don't confuse Emoji and emoticon. An emoticon is composed
tipically of a combination of several punctuation marks, like less
than sign and number 3 for the heart emoticon. However, these days
emoji are used more frequently, which are unicode specific simbols
and modern apps often automatically convert emoticons to
alternative emoji. About the emoticons addon itself, it will be
ported as the Python 3 changes are already being tested by the
developer. Reading of emoji is supported by NVDA natively and does
not require additional addons.

On 12/9/19, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, since emoticons is already in the core of cycle of 2019.3, my
question is here how to use this features?











Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Sarah k Alawami
 

happened to me when I was using firefox for a few minutes, and my flight sim, but sometimes it will happen with my flight sim, or sometimes it will happen just when I'm on the desk top.

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On 10 Dec 2019, at 12:25, coccinelle@... wrote:

Ditto. For me it is happening in Outlook and in Firefox. A restart fixes for a while.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

It happens with me too, but it used to happen with System Access as well, so I just figured it was a screen reader thing. Restarting the screen reader has always fixed it. It was much, much worse with System Access, though, than it's ever been with NVDA, so I've never mentioned it. Since the last NVDA update (I'm using 2019.2.1), it hasn't occurred as often. It's usually when I'm doing things in Dropbox or occasionally when I'm using Tapinradio. sometimes it happens when I'm on a very what I call cluttered web site and things kind of slow down. I use firefox as my browser. As I say, though, it doesn't happen much now since the last NVDA update.

Annette

On 12/10/2019 5:11 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but
can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when
I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just
in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue
instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I
unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I
first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get
fixed in the next update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number
above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear
previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing
which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

Hi everyone,

This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity
sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all
the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric
keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a
NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works
somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA
menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of
things controlled directly by NVDA.

When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a
lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some
kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is
long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
"demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
really annoying, but it's definitely strange.

Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or
am I the only lucky one? Does happen!

Thanks,

Vincent


Vocalizer expressive voices

Don H
 

Before I put down my $69 to purchase the Code Factory vocalizer voices for NVDA are there any issues that make this a bad purchase? Using a trail version now for 2019.3 beta.


Re: NVDA with Zoom

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Are you using headphones? If not, that's the best way to keep others from hearing what your computer is saying. I hope that helps.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Kevin Cussick
 

Look, the same here. but I remember at some point some time ago now there was some sort of problem with windows explorer and maybe Nvda I do remember loads of users reporting this some wile back but can't really remember what the fix if any was given.

On 10/12/2019 15:18, Luke Davis wrote:
You're not the only one to ever see it. I have had it happen many times, though not even as predictably as yours, and primarily in Firefox.
I have always, without fail, been in a hurry, and been unable to take the time to save a debug log to try to track the problem down later.
Luke
On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.

When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.

Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Re: 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

molly the blind tech lover
 

Also you can press tab to find the list of categories.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 4:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

windows key dot then select what you want to do then just hit enter on the one You want to use and hit ESC that is it hope it helps.

On 10/12/2019 01:23, Robert Mendoza wrote:
HI, Molly and others


Emojis panel works fine and perfect. However, I could not able to copy
it.Maybe someone here could give info on how to get and use

On 12/9/2019 10:56 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I like the emoji panel ☺

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nikola
Jovic
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 8:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

For emoticons, the addon helps to insert them without remembering
each simbol. As for emoji, if you use Windows 10, there is something
called the emoji panel. To access it, you use windows plus . period,
and pick the one you want to insert either by choosing a category, or
just by searching for an emoji. Your recently used simbols will
always be at the top.

On 12/9/19, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Thanks but, my question is how will gonna use Emoticon

let say you wanting to pick from the list. Or Do we have to use key
command in order to pick of our choice

and from their we could easily copy and paste to particular editor.

On 12/9/2019 9:14 PM, Nikola Jovic wrote:
It's not. Don't confuse Emoji and emoticon. An emoticon is composed
tipically of a combination of several punctuation marks, like less
than sign and number 3 for the heart emoticon. However, these days
emoji are used more frequently, which are unicode specific simbols
and modern apps often automatically convert emoticons to
alternative emoji. About the emoticons addon itself, it will be
ported as the Python 3 changes are already being tested by the
developer. Reading of emoji is supported by NVDA natively and does
not require additional addons.

On 12/9/19, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, since emoticons is already in the core of cycle of 2019.3, my
question is here how to use this features?











Re: 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

Kevin Cussick
 

windows key dot then select what you want to do then just hit enter on the one You want to use and hit ESC that is it hope it helps.

On 10/12/2019 01:23, Robert Mendoza wrote:
HI, Molly and others
Emojis panel works fine and perfect. However, I could not able to copy it.Maybe someone here could give info on how to get and use
On 12/9/2019 10:56 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I like the emoji panel ☺

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nikola Jovic
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 8:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.3 how to use Emoticons

For emoticons, the addon helps to insert them without remembering each simbol. As for emoji, if you use Windows 10, there is something called the emoji panel. To access it, you use windows plus . period, and pick the one you want to insert either by choosing a category, or just by searching for an emoji. Your recently used simbols will always be at the top.

On 12/9/19, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Thanks but, my question is how will gonna use Emoticon

let say you wanting to pick from the list. Or Do we have to use key
command in order to pick of our choice

and from their we could easily copy and paste to particular editor.

On 12/9/2019 9:14 PM, Nikola Jovic wrote:
It's not. Don't confuse Emoji and emoticon. An emoticon is composed
tipically of a combination of several punctuation marks, like less
than sign and number 3 for the heart emoticon. However, these days
emoji are used more frequently, which are unicode specific simbols
and modern apps often automatically convert emoticons to alternative
emoji. About the emoticons addon itself, it will be ported as the
Python 3 changes are already being tested by the developer. Reading
of emoji is supported by NVDA natively and does not require
additional addons.

On 12/9/19, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, since emoticons is already in the core of cycle of 2019.3, my
question is here how to use this features?










Re: NVDA saying new notification window

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

It seems to have stopped after a reboot but will keep a eye on it.


Gene nz

On 11/12/2019 9:18 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi guys


has any one else noticed when you close a window say wheather it is a browser been closed or the settings in nvda it says new notification window.


I had a look under object presentation and un checked notifications there but still says it.


Is there any where else to look to turn it off or is it a bug?


I am using windows 10 version 1903 with nvda 2019.3 beta 1


Gene nz






Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Pascal Lambert
 

Ditto. For me it is happening in Outlook and in Firefox. A restart fixes for a while.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

It happens with me too, but it used to happen with System Access as well, so I just figured it was a screen reader thing. Restarting the screen reader has always fixed it. It was much, much worse with System Access, though, than it's ever been with NVDA, so I've never mentioned it. Since the last NVDA update (I'm using 2019.2.1), it hasn't occurred as often. It's usually when I'm doing things in Dropbox or occasionally when I'm using Tapinradio. sometimes it happens when I'm on a very what I call cluttered web site and things kind of slow down. I use firefox as my browser. As I say, though, it doesn't happen much now since the last NVDA update.

Annette

On 12/10/2019 5:11 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but
can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when
I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just
in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue
instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I
unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I
first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get
fixed in the next update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number
above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear
previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing
which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity
sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all
the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric
keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a
NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works
somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA
menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of
things controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a
lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some
kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is
long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
"demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or
am I the only lucky one? Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent





NVDA saying new notification window

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


has any one else noticed when you close a window say wheather it is a browser been closed or the settings in nvda it says new notification window.


I had a look under object presentation and un checked notifications there but still says it.


Is there any where else to look to turn it off or is it a bug?


I am using windows 10 version 1903 with nvda 2019.3 beta 1


Gene nz


Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Annette Moore
 

Yes, Gene, I'm using windows 10.

Annette

On 12/10/2019 5:38 AM, Gene wrote:
Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
  lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
> so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
> one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
> and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
> NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
> shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
> works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
> for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
> tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
> the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
> controlled directly by NVDA.
>
>
> When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
> tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
> application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
> of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
> of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
> scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
> long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
> information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
> more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
> of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
> there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
> really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
>
>
> Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
> I the only lucky one?  Does happen!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>



Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Annette Moore
 

It happens with me too, but it used to happen with System Access as well, so I just figured it was a screen reader thing. Restarting the screen reader has always fixed it. It was much, much worse with System Access, though, than it's ever been with NVDA, so I've never mentioned it. Since the last NVDA update (I'm using 2019.2.1), it hasn't occurred as often. It's usually when I'm doing things in Dropbox or occasionally when I'm using Tapinradio. sometimes it happens when I'm on a very what I call cluttered web site and things kind of slow down. I use firefox as my browser. As I say, though, it doesn't happen much now since the last NVDA update.

Annette

On 12/10/2019 5:11 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
 lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent




Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

molly the blind tech lover
 

Thank you. I'll try it . . . I am currently running 2019.3 beta. For some reason my touchscreen doesn't work. Is that normal?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Molly

An idea comes to mind as something to try for you.
If you are running NVDA stable (2019.2.1, for example), you can do this. I believe it doesn't work in the beta currently.

If you press NVDA+n, p, n, you will be able to remap gestures. If you press M, you should be on "miscellaneous". Expand that with right arrow, and go down to "restart NVDA".
If you expand that, then tab to add and press it, you will be able to enter a gesture.

You can use whatever you want, but I used a three finger triple tap to test this.
After you perform the gesture, A two item menu appears asking for touch mode.
Choose the top one (the one that doesn't say object mode), and press enter.
Then tab to OK and press it.

Then, the next time your keyboard stops responding, try that gesture (three finger triple tap in my example).
NVDA should restart.

I am curious if that fixes your keyboard problem.

I suspect it won't, but it would be nice to eliminate the variable.

Luke


On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, molly the blind tech lover wrote:


Yep mine’s a laptop.

The same thing happens on my tablet, but on that device I can just disconnect the keyboard, which fixes the issue.


Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

As pointed out, this happened on a lot of computers and with a lot of users.  Sure, it could be a hardware problem, but if so, it sounds like the industry may have some important issue.  I had this issue with my new laptop when I installed NVDA and there was nothing on the computer, except for Office (which does take some memory).  I've had this issue on various computers since then, sometimes older, sometimes newer versions.  It honestly doesn't sound like a hardware issue to me.  Considering that it has been happening for other users I'd say it's a pretty fair guess.

On 12/10/2019 7:02 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have noticed this on a system with low powered ccpu mostly, however you may have a memmory leak in your brouser, and may need to update it.

I find after chewing through some sites that there are some sites that use more memmory than they should or are badly coded and not much you can do about that.

If this is happening generally though, the first thing I'd probably do is check for broken fans and dust.

I'd also check and see what is loaded at startup and what you absolutely need to run in the background, background apps, etc.

Skype, alexa and a few other massive apps use resources like crazy.

In certain situations my system can become quite unstable when I have 1 or 2 or several large apps open for an extended period so I usually don't do this even on my new ish workstation.

You could have a bad drive, I guess, bad ram or though these usually do more than bog the system.

You could have a bad os install, but if windows is that bad constantly it may not be windows.

Of course you won't know till you reformat and reinstall windows however if its being like this, does any other computer in the house do it.

Before fibre it was probably a line issue, I'd also check network and wireless hardware, restart the router, and go to speedtest.net/apps/cli and run speedtest -p no on all connections to get the upload and download speed for each.

Depending what that is it could be the network or wireless channel but unlikely.

My thing would be failing hardware of some sort, check firmware and driver updates and see what we see.

It could also be a slow burn in the cpu or power supply or a stuck fan blade, you need sightlings to look in the box physically but any slow burn could end up with a dead box with no recovery either as a client I had found out the hard way.



On 10/12/2019 11:55 pm, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent




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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

 

Well I know it can happen even with screen layout off and I always have it off.

On 11/12/2019 4:18 am, Luke Davis wrote:
You're not the only one to ever see it. I have had it happen many times, though not even as predictably as yours, and primarily in Firefox.
I have always, without fail, been in a hurry, and been unable to take the time to save a debug log to try to track the problem down later.

Luke

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Vincent Le Goff wrote:

This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.

When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.

Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

 

Yeah those programs use a lot of memmory, chrome, waterfox, etc.

I usually use 1 at a time and close it when I am done.

On 11/12/2019 1:13 am, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hello,

I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this computer, which is a Lenovo.

Lisa P. Geibel
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On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello,

I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.

I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.

But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.

Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.

I am also using Windows 10.

Best

Sylvie

Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :

Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
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On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity
sometimes
NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a
lot
of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
"demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem?
Or am
I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent




Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

 

I have noticed this in windows 10 myself but not lately.

At least not as bad.



On 11/12/2019 12:38 am, Gene wrote:
Are those having the problem using Windows 10?  I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

Hi Vincent and others,

SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
update.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
  lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
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On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
> so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
> one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
> and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes
> NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
> shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad
> works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
> for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and
> tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
> the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
> controlled directly by NVDA.
>
>
> When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
> tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
> application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
> of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
> of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
> scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is
> long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update
> information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
> more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
> of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
> there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
> really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
>
>
> Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
> I the only lucky one?  Does happen!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>



Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted

 

I have noticed this on a system with low powered ccpu mostly, however you may have a memmory leak in your brouser, and may need to update it.

I find after chewing through some sites that there are some sites that use more memmory than they should or are badly coded and not much you can do about that.

If this is happening generally though, the first thing I'd probably do is check for broken fans and dust.

I'd also check and see what is loaded at startup and what you absolutely need to run in the background, background apps, etc.

Skype, alexa and a few other massive apps use resources like crazy.

In certain situations my system can become quite unstable when I have 1 or 2 or several large apps open for an extended period so I usually don't do this even on my new ish workstation.

You could have a bad drive, I guess, bad ram or though these usually do more than bog the system.

You could have a bad os install, but if windows is that bad constantly it may not be windows.

Of course you won't know till you reformat and reinstall windows however if its being like this, does any other computer in the house do it.

Before fibre it was probably a line issue, I'd also check network and wireless hardware, restart the router, and go to speedtest.net/apps/cli and run speedtest -p no on all connections to get the upload and download speed for each.

Depending what that is it could be the network or wireless channel but unlikely.

My thing would be failing hardware of some sort, check firmware and driver updates and see what we see.

It could also be a slow burn in the cpu or power supply or a stuck fan blade, you need sightlings to look in the box physically but any slow burn could end up with a dead box with no recovery either as a client I had found out the hard way.

On 10/12/2019 11:55 pm, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,


This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into.  Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control".  The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working.  Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA.  Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function.  NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.


When does it happen?  I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky.  It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application.  All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag.  So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance.  This can happen in Word if the document is long.  This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running.  This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.  It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround?  Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.


Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one?  Does happen!


Thanks,


Vincent



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Re: vocalizer expresssive voices

Chris
 

If you go to the nvda menu > code factory > code factory vocalizer

A dialog should open then go to the voices tab and download from there

 

From: Don H
Sent: 10 December 2019 17:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] vocalizer expresssive voices

 

Ok I downloaded and installed the trial of the code factory vocalizer

voices for python 3 and I am liking what I am hearing. One question I

have is how to install more voices after the initial install?

Thanks

 

 

 

 


vocalizer expresssive voices

Don H
 

Ok I downloaded and installed the trial of the code factory vocalizer voices for python 3 and I am liking what I am hearing. One question I have is how to install more voices after the initial install?
Thanks